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August 24, 2023, 04:43:03 PM
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I am pretty sure some professional players and people who do it for fun will play poker themselves with a bit of assistance from AI.
Yes, even though this AI technology is very sophisticated, I'm sure gamblers will not fully use this to play poker to beat the dealer, let alone the opponent, they will use the game as usual and only use AI technology to the extent of knowledge, nothing more or to try to beat the opponent, especially the dealer, even so This technology is also still not very familiar in gambling.

I've never even tried to research using AI even though it can be used to help me do research on gambling and how to beat the dealer, but I've never tried anything out of the ordinary, because I know any casino dealer has definitely used this advanced technology before us. use it to beat them. because they will always win against us

        -     The question is, has there been any news in this era that because of AI, it has defeated every house edge in casinos? It's like I've never seen or watched news like that. Although I know that recently Ai has been trending in the industry like this.

But it is not at such a point that because of Ai, many casinos have already lost to it, which is the reason for the closure of other casinos in crypto gambling. I haven't read a single one like the ones I mentioned. So for me it's just a rumor.
You're hearing rumors and attempting to separate fact from fiction, and I get that. Although AI is clearly on the increase in many fields, its superiority against casino house edges isn't as clear-cut as some may think

Despite being outwitted by an AI super-beast, casinos (traditional or cryptocurrency) are not closing down all over the place. I can tell you from experience that although AI is finding more and more uses in the gaming industry, the sector hasn't entirely collapsed. What you've said are rumors, and not all rumors circulated through the corridors of power are accurate
That being said, I value your skepticism. In our society that is changing so quickly, it is imperative that we always ask questions. Recall, though, that AI is a tool, not a panacea. In the meantime, casinos continue to play it safe

Would you expect news of a system that actually has beaten any casino? It would be a mega-game changer for all sites, they would need to re-formulate the games and the requirements to entry and some games would be made obsolete as there is no way you can tell you are playing with an AI. When it happens, it will cause a big chaos unless the industry is already ready.

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August 27, 2023, 12:07:19 PM
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I am pretty sure some professional players and people who do it for fun will play poker themselves with a bit of assistance from AI.
Yes, even though this AI technology is very sophisticated, I'm sure gamblers will not fully use this to play poker to beat the dealer, let alone the opponent, they will use the game as usual and only use AI technology to the extent of knowledge, nothing more or to try to beat the opponent, especially the dealer, even so This technology is also still not very familiar in gambling.

I've never even tried to research using AI even though it can be used to help me do research on gambling and how to beat the dealer, but I've never tried anything out of the ordinary, because I know any casino dealer has definitely used this advanced technology before us. use it to beat them. because they will always win against us

        -     The question is, has there been any news in this era that because of AI, it has defeated every house edge in casinos? It's like I've never seen or watched news like that. Although I know that recently Ai has been trending in the industry like this.

But it is not at such a point that because of Ai, many casinos have already lost to it, which is the reason for the closure of other casinos in crypto gambling. I haven't read a single one like the ones I mentioned. So for me it's just a rumor.
You're hearing rumors and attempting to separate fact from fiction, and I get that. Although AI is clearly on the increase in many fields, its superiority against casino house edges isn't as clear-cut as some may think

Despite being outwitted by an AI super-beast, casinos (traditional or cryptocurrency) are not closing down all over the place. I can tell you from experience that although AI is finding more and more uses in the gaming industry, the sector hasn't entirely collapsed. What you've said are rumors, and not all rumors circulated through the corridors of power are accurate
That being said, I value your skepticism. In our society that is changing so quickly, it is imperative that we always ask questions. Recall, though, that AI is a tool, not a panacea. In the meantime, casinos continue to play it safe

Poker is a Player vs Player game, so I'll assume what you're talking about are casino games. If in the case of poker - the complaints will come from the players, not the site. It is up to the site to police those that are using tools to gain an unfair advantage and other preventative measures. I'm not sure how you can use AI to beat a casino game as most perfect play in all games can only come closest to still losing at 1 cent per dollar bet (1% house edge).
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August 29, 2023, 02:48:35 AM
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It is just a fad and cannot actually destroy any kind of online gambling games, since those games are based on luck, not google-able knowledge.

AI programming does not seem to be all that difficult, if you were to look at all the AI apps popping up, for even the most mundane of tasks, it seems to be quite easy. I would argue no more difficult than regular, old-fashion programming. After all, AI is simply a kind of algorithm and past events have shown it can be tricked and it has its own limitations. The only reason why people are making such a big fuss about Artificial Intelligence is because they think it is REAL AI. Its not. It just mimics real AI. In reality AI is just a glorified "Let Me Google That For You" app.
Well, the truth is that sometimes the AI as one sees it is something that sometimes seems to me not so easy, with Machine learning it is something that sometimes makes me a little crazy, in that it seems a little difficult to understand, without However, you are right, there are many courses and there are AI ones, but what you have to do is the programming that is more technical, and when it is more technical, the truth is, you have to know many things, of course, to stop someone who is always on the subject of Programming may be easier for you, but I program very little and I don't know if I'm out of shape, but it's been hard for me to be honest.

In any case, you have to be careful with the courses you take because there are some who are just doing what is requested and the app does it, but there are things that are more complex that the app doesn't do, but to do Simple things if you can find it easily with the app.

For now, I don't think you can destroy a casino system, not even with the best AI implemented, because everything is in a development phase, the robots learn but not in the way you think, that's something else complicated, and also learns according to the information that is fed to it.

The majority of people are always looking for a way to win through AI and beating the casino, but I don't see that as viable, firstly because it is difficult to do something like this and secondly that the robots are not optimized at all for a requirement so gfrande, however there are people who do not believe and insist, I have always said something, the AI can help those to make sports predictions and it is not that the AI tells them for which team, or athlete according to the sport on which to bet, In this aspect, I believe that the robot can help because it has access to all the history and all the data, and things can be done with the information, according to these things we can help each other, but not to do something efficient and totally exact, that is something that we can take into consideration, for now with poker the only thing that an AI can help is to provide courses.


So far, I haven't met anybody that uses AI systems for their poker gambling activities. Some of my friends have a wide range of charts they rely on during bigger tournaments, and after big hands they also use programs to analyse their plays. But during the playing itself we all just focus on the tables in front of us and don't have any software running on the side. Poker is very different from other casino games, because the casino has no stage in the game itself. They only make a profit from the amount of hands played on their tables. Whenever a poker player wins, he takes the money from other gamblers. Which also why I don't see any big threat for the casinos from the rise of AI gambling programs. The only problem is that gamblers that don’t rely on AI will be at a disadvantage, so there is going to be a transition period where all the players have to adopt AI based gambling. Which kind of makes it fair again, because all rely on same systems. A big company will bring out the most advanced AI for poker and all the players can buy it. Also, as long as the other casino games are closed systems where the casino has its house edge, I don’t think it’s going to be a problem if gamblers use AI gambling strategies.


Well it's true, sometimes it happens that when a poker player enters and they are one of those players who play without technique and who are generally novices, then these types of players, since they hardly play well, make the game faster You see, so I think that when one of these players plays, they can throw off the others' game, because the same thing happens with a very famous 4-person game where I'm from that I don't know if you know, but it's called "dominoes" and When a player plays the first thing that comes out, it unbalances the game of the others.

In the case of the AI, well, it is as you say, there is no one who can have software that is a real-time simulation and says that it can use the AI to benefit you, however if you are in a poker game in PVP mode you can It may be that the AI says or does that the best move it can make is X and it may not win, but if an AI in a casino vs. player poker game, well, that's something else, because I don't know how the interaction could be between casino and user(AI) It may choose the best play because it's only 1 player(Casino) based on casio having the house edge, so that's something to take into consideration, I haven't seen any simulations yet or tests like this, since now things with AI are robots that can be trained but it is in a Beta phase that has not yet been proven how good it is, and those who manage to make and program the AI have to go through several phases of training, but the most advanced that has been given and Known so far is the cghatGPT-4 that can make drawings and videos from a user command, but apart from GPT4, there are other robots that are more advanced in terms of gambling ? and what do we not know? there may be many, AI programmers can do many tests with Provably Fair systems and it is something that can be determined if it is good or not, but until now things have not been successful for this , and I think there is still a long way to go Develop.

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August 29, 2023, 04:52:00 AM
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That being said, I value your skepticism. In our society that is changing so quickly, it is imperative that we always ask questions. Recall, though, that AI is a tool, not a panacea. In the meantime, casinos continue to play it safe

Nevertheless, according to recent research, AI is not just a set of scripts, but a reasoning system. It is Reasoning, that is, building conclusions from scratch on the basis of facts. Therefore, if now it is only possible to imagine AI help, for example, in poker, as a system of reality supplements that counts chances or prompts actions, but at the same time is developed by people. Then "tomorrow" the AI will be able to figure out how to outwit the casino in the most tricky way. We have lived to a time where AI will think for us.
But is there a threat to the casino?
No.
Since each player is monitored by machine, his results are monitored, and if someone suddenly began to win constantly, then such a player will be checked

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August 29, 2023, 05:54:36 PM
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That being said, I value your skepticism. In our society that is changing so quickly, it is imperative that we always ask questions. Recall, though, that AI is a tool, not a panacea. In the meantime, casinos continue to play it safe

Nevertheless, according to recent research, AI is not just a set of scripts, but a reasoning system. It is Reasoning, that is, building conclusions from scratch on the basis of facts. Therefore, if now it is only possible to imagine AI help, for example, in poker, as a system of reality supplements that counts chances or prompts actions, but at the same time is developed by people. Then "tomorrow" the AI will be able to figure out how to outwit the casino in the most tricky way. We have lived to a time where AI will think for us.
But is there a threat to the casino?
No.
Since each player is monitored by machine, his results are monitored, and if someone suddenly began to win constantly, then such a player will be checked

I agree, but I want to add that the AI could probably do well in casino games that rely on luck for people to win, and although it would not be a guaranteed success. now looking at sports betting, I think that in this part AI could make the same mistakes as people, probably the advantage of AI in sports betting would be that new and lazy people could use AI for game predictions, but the question it would be if casinos would accept people doing this kind of thing, because honestly in the case of sports betting I don't see any reason why casinos wouldn't accept people using AI to predict game outcomes

that's because even if there was the best AI in the world, that AI would still make mistakes, because in sports betting nothing is guaranteed, even a favorite team that has odds of 1.01 and is playing against the worst team in the league or in the world, even so, this best team could lose the game, so the AI would only be analyzing the game as if it were a professional bettor, and we all know that even professional bettors lose a lot and for this reason they keep creating telegram channels, giving courses and There are youtube channels to earn money.

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August 29, 2023, 09:05:32 PM
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That being said, I value your skepticism. In our society that is changing so quickly, it is imperative that we always ask questions. Recall, though, that AI is a tool, not a panacea. In the meantime, casinos continue to play it safe

Nevertheless, according to recent research, AI is not just a set of scripts, but a reasoning system. It is Reasoning, that is, building conclusions from scratch on the basis of facts. Therefore, if now it is only possible to imagine AI help, for example, in poker, as a system of reality supplements that counts chances or prompts actions, but at the same time is developed by people. Then "tomorrow" the AI will be able to figure out how to outwit the casino in the most tricky way. We have lived to a time where AI will think for us.
But is there a threat to the casino?
No.
Since each player is monitored by machine, his results are monitored, and if someone suddenly began to win constantly, then such a player will be checked

I agree, but I want to add that the AI could probably do well in casino games that rely on luck for people to win, and although it would not be a guaranteed success. now looking at sports betting, I think that in this part AI could make the same mistakes as people, probably the advantage of AI in sports betting would be that new and lazy people could use AI for game predictions, but the question it would be if casinos would accept people doing this kind of thing, because honestly in the case of sports betting I don't see any reason why casinos wouldn't accept people using AI to predict game outcomes

that's because even if there was the best AI in the world, that AI would still make mistakes, because in sports betting nothing is guaranteed, even a favorite team that has odds of 1.01 and is playing against the worst team in the league or in the world, even so, this best team could lose the game, so the AI would only be analyzing the game as if it were a professional bettor, and we all know that even professional bettors lose a lot and for this reason they keep creating telegram channels, giving courses and There are youtube channels to earn money.

The thing is not only about making mistakes in games, as you say it is likely than an AI will not get absolutely every decision right that's not possible. However it is enough it if gets enough decisions right, that is, even as low as getting 1 more decision right than wrong in every 20 or even 100 could potentially create the advantage required to win in the long term and the AI does not get tired.

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August 30, 2023, 04:40:03 AM
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That being said, I value your skepticism. In our society that is changing so quickly, it is imperative that we always ask questions. Recall, though, that AI is a tool, not a panacea. In the meantime, casinos continue to play it safe

Nevertheless, according to recent research, AI is not just a set of scripts, but a reasoning system. It is Reasoning, that is, building conclusions from scratch on the basis of facts. Therefore, if now it is only possible to imagine AI help, for example, in poker, as a system of reality supplements that counts chances or prompts actions, but at the same time is developed by people. Then "tomorrow" the AI will be able to figure out how to outwit the casino in the most tricky way. We have lived to a time where AI will think for us.
But is there a threat to the casino?
No.
Since each player is monitored by machine, his results are monitored, and if someone suddenly began to win constantly, then such a player will be checked

I agree, but I want to add that the AI could probably do well in casino games that rely on luck for people to win, and although it would not be a guaranteed success. now looking at sports betting, I think that in this part AI could make the same mistakes as people, probably the advantage of AI in sports betting would be that new and lazy people could use AI for game predictions, but the question it would be if casinos would accept people doing this kind of thing, because honestly in the case of sports betting I don't see any reason why casinos wouldn't accept people using AI to predict game outcomes

that's because even if there was the best AI in the world, that AI would still make mistakes, because in sports betting nothing is guaranteed, even a favorite team that has odds of 1.01 and is playing against the worst team in the league or in the world, even so, this best team could lose the game, so the AI would only be analyzing the game as if it were a professional bettor, and we all know that even professional bettors lose a lot and for this reason they keep creating telegram channels, giving courses and There are youtube channels to earn money.

I think you're thinking too critically.
If a good team comes out to play against a bad one, then I believe that a bad team will not have a chance of winning, even one percent. There are different circumstances, but skills are skills, and miracles will not happen on the field. I think AI could succeed in sports betting, because it will be able to analyze big data data, because in principle it was created for this.
After all, this is exactly how bookmakers exist - this is a set of people who assess the chances in the game, and they live off commissions and the fact that they predict who will win the game better than most. Or a im wrong?

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August 30, 2023, 09:42:58 AM
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An interesting related take about ChatGPT's case study with Chess: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/F6vH6fr8ngo7csDdf/chess-as-a-case-study-in-hidden-capabilities-in-chatgpt#Playing_against_Stockfish_Level_3_with_the_magic_prompt.

To put it short, ChatGPT is able to play chess given detailed and thorough prompts input.

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It plays at around 1000 Elo, and can make consistently legal moves until about 20-30 moves in, when its performance tends to break down. That sounds not-so-impressive, until you consider that it's effectively playing blindfolded, having access to only the game's moves in algebraic notation, and not a visual of a chessboard. I myself have probably spent at least a thousand hours playing chess, and I think I could do slightly better than 1000 Elo for 30 moves when blindfolded, but not by much. ChatGPT's performance is roughly the level of blindfolded chess ability to expect from a decent club player. And 30 moves is more than enough to demonstrate beyond any reasonable doubt that ChatGPT has fully internalized the rules of chess and is not relying on memorization or other, shallower patterns.

If one one wondering, does ChatGPT is able to play chess the answer is yes. But considering its efficiency and effectiveness, surely it does not behave in a perfect manner. Chess is known to beat humans by brute forcing any advantageous move in the state of the game, and that is already been done with software made specifically for that.

Now about poker, I think it will also be able to play it, given a detailed prompt, but do not expect maximum results. Also, since poker contains many factors, especially luck, it won't be able to dominantly beat any human players.


But chess is not poker. Far from it. World chess champion Garry Kasparov was beaten by computer called Deep Blue in 1997. And only 22 years later, in 2019, Pluribus showed that it can beat humans, poker pros(each human participant has won more than $1 million playing poker till the date), in a multiplayer No-Limit Texas Hold'em. And even after that we can't say that AI can beat any poker player, while we can say that AI can beat any chess player with certainty.

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The thing is not only about making mistakes in games, as you say it is likely than an AI will not get absolutely every decision right that's not possible. However it is enough it if gets enough decisions right, that is, even as low as getting 1 more decision right than wrong in every 20 or even 100 could potentially create the advantage required to win in the long term and the AI does not get tired.
If the development of AI stalls or cannot progress beyond what is expected by the developers, AI may not be able to make the right decisions. Their ability to solve problems is very limited. But if developers can provide more input for AI and can make AI develop more and more, there is a possibility that AI's capabilities will increase and can provide decisions or at least some possible opportunities that we can use. Meanwhile, the development of AI is still ongoing and the developers are still busy finding the right model for the AI so they still need to work hard to find it. We cannot predict the future so this is still an interesting thing for us to wait for.

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An interesting related take about ChatGPT's case study with Chess: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/F6vH6fr8ngo7csDdf/chess-as-a-case-study-in-hidden-capabilities-in-chatgpt#Playing_against_Stockfish_Level_3_with_the_magic_prompt.

To put it short, ChatGPT is able to play chess given detailed and thorough prompts input.

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It plays at around 1000 Elo, and can make consistently legal moves until about 20-30 moves in, when its performance tends to break down. That sounds not-so-impressive, until you consider that it's effectively playing blindfolded, having access to only the game's moves in algebraic notation, and not a visual of a chessboard. I myself have probably spent at least a thousand hours playing chess, and I think I could do slightly better than 1000 Elo for 30 moves when blindfolded, but not by much. ChatGPT's performance is roughly the level of blindfolded chess ability to expect from a decent club player. And 30 moves is more than enough to demonstrate beyond any reasonable doubt that ChatGPT has fully internalized the rules of chess and is not relying on memorization or other, shallower patterns.

If one one wondering, does ChatGPT is able to play chess the answer is yes. But considering its efficiency and effectiveness, surely it does not behave in a perfect manner. Chess is known to beat humans by brute forcing any advantageous move in the state of the game, and that is already been done with software made specifically for that.

Now about poker, I think it will also be able to play it, given a detailed prompt, but do not expect maximum results. Also, since poker contains many factors, especially luck, it won't be able to dominantly beat any human players.


But chess is not poker. Far from it. World chess champion Garry Kasparov was beaten by computer called Deep Blue in 1997. And only 22 years later, in 2019, Pluribus showed that it can beat humans, poker pros(each human participant has won more than $1 million playing poker till the date), in a multiplayer No-Limit Texas Hold'em. And even after that we can't say that AI can beat any poker player, while we can say that AI can beat any chess player with certainty.

Obviously. But my point is that ChatGPT or any other LLM-type of AI, would be able to play poker just fine with the caveat that the prompts are thoroughly detailed and contain the bits and pieces of the game. Whether it is for chess or poker, the results surely would not be very optimum.

If we consider the research that you mention such as Deep Blue and Pluribus, certainly since it is designed and programmed with a specific purpose in mind , they would be able to achieve maximum results for each respective game they are trying to compete.
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The thing is not only about making mistakes in games, as you say it is likely than an AI will not get absolutely every decision right that's not possible. However it is enough it if gets enough decisions right, that is, even as low as getting 1 more decision right than wrong in every 20 or even 100 could potentially create the advantage required to win in the long term and the AI does not get tired.
If the development of AI stalls or cannot progress beyond what is expected by the developers, AI may not be able to make the right decisions. Their ability to solve problems is very limited. But if developers can provide more input for AI and can make AI develop more and more, there is a possibility that AI's capabilities will increase and can provide decisions or at least some possible opportunities that we can use. Meanwhile, the development of AI is still ongoing and the developers are still busy finding the right model for the AI so they still need to work hard to find it. We cannot predict the future so this is still an interesting thing for us to wait for.
It is true that there is uncertainty around AI's future. The tremendous advancements we've achieved in neural networks, machine learning, and natural language processing, however, should not be overlooked! By pushing the limits of what is computationally feasible, the developers aren't merely "busy finding the right model." They are damaging their achievements by becoming resentful of their pace.

Adding more input isn't the only way to fully utilize AI though. Incorporating human-centric ethics, values, and problem-solving skills into AI decision-making algorithms is its main goal. Not all we can do is "wait" for developers to reveal the future of artificial intelligence. Interacting with technology in a constructive and critical manner is important. It's the only way we can genuinely unleash astonishing AI breakthroughs.

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Obviously. But my point is that ChatGPT or any other LLM-type of AI, would be able to play poker just fine with the caveat that the prompts are thoroughly detailed and contain the bits and pieces of the game. Whether it is for chess or poker, the results surely would not be very optimum.

If we consider the research that you mention such as Deep Blue and Pluribus, certainly since it is designed and programmed with a specific purpose in mind , they would be able to achieve maximum results for each respective game they are trying to compete.

But please note that chess is a deterministic game. There's no luck involved. There's no such thing as bluff in chess. That's why it's easy for computer to beat humans in chess, while it takes days of analyzing particular players to start beating them in poker. To beat someone in chess you don't have to know anything about him and about his style, you just need to know the rules. Rules of poker are simple, but it's not enough.

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Obviously. But my point is that ChatGPT or any other LLM-type of AI, would be able to play poker just fine with the caveat that the prompts are thoroughly detailed and contain the bits and pieces of the game. Whether it is for chess or poker, the results surely would not be very optimum.

If we consider the research that you mention such as Deep Blue and Pluribus, certainly since it is designed and programmed with a specific purpose in mind , they would be able to achieve maximum results for each respective game they are trying to compete.

But please note that chess is a deterministic game. There's no luck involved. There's no such thing as bluff in chess. That's why it's easy for computer to beat humans in chess, while it takes days of analyzing particular players to start beating them in poker. To beat someone in chess you don't have to know anything about him and about his style, you just need to know the rules. Rules of poker are simple, but it's not enough.

Exactly, the reason why computers are able to beat humans is that chess is deterministically in design, has no hidden information, and 2-player game. It is able to calculate the most advantageous move in some set of actions within the game state. So obviously there is no point in luckiness and a bluff. On the other hand, it is completely the opposite in poker.

Still, if it is only a matter of following rules, I believe that many LLM AI would do just fine. As I have said before, the prompts that are being used are essentially important.
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Obviously. But my point is that ChatGPT or any other LLM-type of AI, would be able to play poker just fine with the caveat that the prompts are thoroughly detailed and contain the bits and pieces of the game. Whether it is for chess or poker, the results surely would not be very optimum.

If we consider the research that you mention such as Deep Blue and Pluribus, certainly since it is designed and programmed with a specific purpose in mind , they would be able to achieve maximum results for each respective game they are trying to compete.

But please note that chess is a deterministic game. There's no luck involved. There's no such thing as bluff in chess. That's why it's easy for computer to beat humans in chess, while it takes days of analyzing particular players to start beating them in poker. To beat someone in chess you don't have to know anything about him and about his style, you just need to know the rules. Rules of poker are simple, but it's not enough.
I'm with you on this, a Chess game is one of the few games that doesn't require luck, you have to show your wisdom to beat the opponent in fair play. But for poker, there is hidden information, and in many ways, the house could turn things against you, and in this, you will need luck, and not only wisdom or experience. Come to think of it, I've seen many discussions about the AIs and gambling, do you think these two could ever work together? I doubt that. The house will always be one step ahead of any AIs as they are the ones who own their system. And I wonder how people could actually use the AIs to play on a platform that is not theirs. How would they connect it?

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It is true that there is uncertainty around AI's future. The tremendous advancements we've achieved in neural networks, machine learning, and natural language processing, however, should not be overlooked! By pushing the limits of what is computationally feasible, the developers aren't merely "busy finding the right model." They are damaging their achievements by becoming resentful of their pace.

Adding more input isn't the only way to fully utilize AI though. Incorporating human-centric ethics, values, and problem-solving skills into AI decision-making algorithms is its main goal. Not all we can do is "wait" for developers to reveal the future of artificial intelligence. Interacting with technology in a constructive and critical manner is important. It's the only way we can genuinely unleash astonishing AI breakthroughs.
These discoveries in the field of AI have penetrated the boundaries of technology so this will develop even more in the future, especially if technology is discovered that is more sophisticated than now. And this clearly means that developers are still busy finding the right model so that humans can use it well. We cannot rule out the human desire to want AI that can work together with us to help complete every job. And that's why developers are still looking for a solution.


Even though many AI models have been discovered in the form of robots, that is not the final form of AI because the technology is evolving into something better. Adding more means the developer adds more code to make the AI work by carrying out human commands. But AI is still under human supervision so AI will not make something contrary to human wishes. Waiting for the developer here is more like waiting for developments or updates that the developer will release to see what progress the developer has made. We also interact with AI created by developers to find out what still needs improvement.

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September 10, 2023, 07:31:29 AM
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Even though many AI models have been discovered in the form of robots, that is not the final form of AI because the technology is evolving into something better. Adding more means the developer adds more code to make the AI work by carrying out human commands. But AI is still under human supervision so AI will not make something contrary to human wishes. Waiting for the developer here is more like waiting for developments or updates that the developer will release to see what progress the developer has made. We also interact with AI created by developers to find out what still needs improvement.
As each day goes by, this AI technology will certainly continue to develop, so it will definitely continue to be updated all the time, whether in casinos or gamblers who use this technology, so I am sure that it will not be easy to destroy the game in online poker gambling using this AI because of course developers in casinos will continue to updating their AI development to counteract that, because that way they don't get big losses because the AI can beat the opponent or the dealer.

Any casino will always update their technology and systems and continue to be the latest, especially when using AI technology, of course it is used so that there are no loopholes that can be exploited by users who use AI, let alone taking advantage of the current state of the art technology because of the use of AI everywhere which can sometimes happen. misused by others.

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September 10, 2023, 05:34:10 PM
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Even though many AI models have been discovered in the form of robots, that is not the final form of AI because the technology is evolving into something better. Adding more means the developer adds more code to make the AI work by carrying out human commands. But AI is still under human supervision so AI will not make something contrary to human wishes. Waiting for the developer here is more like waiting for developments or updates that the developer will release to see what progress the developer has made. We also interact with AI created by developers to find out what still needs improvement.
As each day goes by, this AI technology will certainly continue to develop, so it will definitely continue to be updated all the time, whether in casinos or gamblers who use this technology, so I am sure that it will not be easy to destroy the game in online poker gambling using this AI because of course developers in casinos will continue to updating their AI development to counteract that, because that way they don't get big losses because the AI can beat the opponent or the dealer.

Any casino will always update their technology and systems and continue to be the latest, especially when using AI technology, of course it is used so that there are no loopholes that can be exploited by users who use AI, let alone taking advantage of the current state of the art technology because of the use of AI everywhere which can sometimes happen. misused by others.
The casinos must always be ready for anything, right? As the field of artificial intelligence develops, casinos and AI enthusiasts engage in a fun tug of war. Casinos have too much to lose by sitting back and letting technology beat them. Its crazy to think about how far along both sides of artificial intelligence are. However, I suppose that is what makes the gaming industry so interesting

Keep in mind that although the application of AI in gaming is exciting, the house still always has an advantage. After all, it is their play area. This technological arms race is fascinating to watch, though.

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September 11, 2023, 05:21:11 AM
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As each day goes by, this AI technology will certainly continue to develop, so it will definitely continue to be updated all the time, whether in casinos or gamblers who use this technology, so I am sure that it will not be easy to destroy the game in online poker gambling using this AI because of course developers in casinos will continue to updating their AI development to counteract that, because that way they don't get big losses because the AI can beat the opponent or the dealer.

Any casino will always update their technology and systems and continue to be the latest, especially when using AI technology, of course it is used so that there are no loopholes that can be exploited by users who use AI, let alone taking advantage of the current state of the art technology because of the use of AI everywhere which can sometimes happen. misused by others.
Yes, that's definitely because developers and scientists are still trying to develop it so that it can be even more advanced than it is now. They will issue an update when everything is complete and release it to the market for the public. Meanwhile, the AI technology gamblers will use to win from casinos will continue to develop. Still, the casino will also develop the same or different technology to protect its business from gamblers who use AI. However, as business owners, casinos will not allow their businesses to suffer losses, especially if the AI developers used by gamblers can win big. Casinos will continue to look for AI that can protect their business.

Advanced technology will continue to develop, both from the gambler's and casino's sides. Casinos who are aware of this will continue developing AI suitable for their business so that they can protect their business well because casinos know that there are gamblers who want to take advantage of technological advances for the benefit of those gamblers. AI's future development will also be faster because more advanced technological discoveries from scientists support it.

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September 11, 2023, 07:35:32 AM
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The AI systems do not actually collect the data, they are the opposite: consumer of significant data volumes, depending on the difficulty of the task, e.g. playing chess may require a 10^10 sample of games, driving a car could be even more... It is a different task to get the data, train the systems, get results, validate. These different stages do not use the same systems always.
Maybe that's what we know for now but later, after many developments in this field of AI, maybe AI will also be used for data collection, where it will be faster to get the data because AI will be connected to all servers. We will get AI reports that are useful for our analysis in determining or making decisions. But indeed, we won't know what kind of system the developer will develop because we are just ordinary people who don't really understand these AI codes.
do you know Tilt?  Tilt in poker is often interpreted as a reflection of the emotions of the players, and poker professionals master this, they are able to read the emotions of opponents and must also be able to hide their own emotions.  The question is, is there a possibility in the future for AI to be able to read your opponent's emotions at the poker table?  If so, AI will be unbeatable, but the chances of AI being able to win against poker professionals who are able to hide their emotions are very small, even though AI can collect data and use hundreds of strategies at the poker table.

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September 11, 2023, 12:22:20 PM
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As each day goes by, this AI technology will certainly continue to develop, so it will definitely continue to be updated all the time, whether in casinos or gamblers who use this technology, so I am sure that it will not be easy to destroy the game in online poker gambling using this AI because of course developers in casinos will continue to updating their AI development to counteract that, because that way they don't get big losses because the AI can beat the opponent or the dealer.

Any casino will always update their technology and systems and continue to be the latest, especially when using AI technology, of course it is used so that there are no loopholes that can be exploited by users who use AI, let alone taking advantage of the current state of the art technology because of the use of AI everywhere which can sometimes happen. misused by others.
Yes, that's definitely because developers and scientists are still trying to develop it so that it can be even more advanced than it is now. They will issue an update when everything is complete and release it to the market for the public. Meanwhile, the AI technology gamblers will use to win from casinos will continue to develop. Still, the casino will also develop the same or different technology to protect its business from gamblers who use AI. However, as business owners, casinos will not allow their businesses to suffer losses, especially if the AI developers used by gamblers can win big. Casinos will continue to look for AI that can protect their business.

Advanced technology will continue to develop, both from the gambler's and casino's sides. Casinos who are aware of this will continue developing AI suitable for their business so that they can protect their business well because casinos know that there are gamblers who want to take advantage of technological advances for the benefit of those gamblers. AI's future development will also be faster because more advanced technological discoveries from scientists support it.
For centuries, casinos have sought to safeguard their own interests. AI is the latest tool in many. You suggest casinos will continually making AI to match player advancement. I concur completely. Imagine casinos using AI to study customers' behavior in real time. They quickly identified gambler AI use trends, which affected the odds subtly but effectively.

However, scientists and authors are advancing AI quickly. There may never be a theoretical balance. Imagine two sprinters always improving and attempting to beat each other. An infinite cycle. AI adds complexity to this dynamic, and bettors may lose some doors.

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