'John Abraham ≈ naim027' Coincidence or Connection?

[John Abraham]

The transactions you are seeing are nothing but selling my Bitcoin to him for USD. I never thought that would make me his alternative account, LOL.

You have nothing else to say except this. Do you live in the same country of 'naim027'? How 'naim027' sent you the USD? Can you show the proof of your conversation regarding those transactions? Why are you sending BTC to 'naim027' address from the whirlwind.money mixer after the 6th round payment?

I'm not very fond of asking users for private data, but if John Abraham isn't lying, this would be a good start to prove it.

I already explained this. I sold my BTC for Paypal. The reason I did not take the withdrawal to my address; instead, I sent it to Naim; At first- it would cost me transaction fees. Withdraw from Whirlwind is free. So I sent him directly to his address. If you look carefully, I did not sell all my BTC every week. Every week I get around 0.0045 BTC. Sometimes I sold 0.0025 and sometimes 0.0035. The rest I took to my own Binance. The reason I did not take it to my trust wallet is this;

Well, I didn't know that. Trust Wallet claims they are open-source wallet software. I don't know how to verify it. I should stop using Trust Wallet.

Have a read of my post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5415683.msg61049268#msg61049268

I did not know that Trust Wallet is a closed-source wallet. After this post from o_e_l_e_o, I decided not to use Trust wallet. So I transferred the rest to my Binance wallet and sold it for cash.

Naim027 and I worked together for a long time, from 2020 to mid-2021, for a casino.

What are the odds,

Don't trust. Verify! Did you see my previous response?  I've made some posts from the Paradice account where I mentioned my name, and those are non edited posts;

Let me know your thoughts!

Regards,
John.

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considering there are 169 million people in your country?

Your country? I did not say I was from Bangladesh. I might be from Bangladesh, I might be from Italy. Or I might be from Russia.

I'm not very fond of asking users for private data, but if John Abraham isn't lying, this would be a good start to prove it.

I can vouch for LoyceV here. John Abraham can send the proofs to LoyceV if he has no issue with trusting him. I believe LoyceV won't abuse any private info.

I don't have many things to share. Most of the evidence is public. Suppose someone does their research with a positive mind. They will figure it out.

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[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Everyone will say it is multi account. But it could also be that @John Abraham sold the bitcoins he got to @naim027. I cannot say exactly what is right here, but there are senior members here who will analyze the judgment and decide what is right.

After reading both the OP and the comments of other members, I don't think you really find any good evidence or reason that justifies that John Abraham is not lying.

If you read the OP correctly, then you should ask yourself one question: why did John Abraham send his three-week payment of Yomixer campaign to Naim027? If we agree that it's just a mere P2P transaction for the exchange of Bitcoin to USDT, as Abraham has said, then why did Naim027's wallet start receiving signature payments of John Abraham's of whirlwind.money campaign? That's the question you should ask yourself. If it was just a normal P2P transaction between there two, John can't assign naim027 wallet to his signature payment.

@John Abraham, Well, just as Jollygood has said, strange things have happened here and it's even happening, but just that some people still have a carcass well hidden in their cupboard, which can be opened one day. I must say that you are also a member here whom I admire their posting style, but for this drama here, I am short on words. I have been reading this thread carefully, and I saw that the OP here, asked you to provide a proof of your conversation with Naim027 before your first Bitcoin transaction interaction with his wallet, which was the 3-week payment you received from the Yo!mixer campaign, but you have not provided any proof of your chart with him. It's never too long for you not to have the conversation between the both of you, but where is it? For you to say that those your conversation with him via telegram has been deleted by him, is not a very convincing excuse.

I understand that you are selling your Bitcoin to Naim027, but the part I feel so pitiable for you, is why naim027 wallet receives payment for the current signature you had on your account. It doesn't look like you are just selling your Bitcoin to him; otherwise, you will not use his wallet as a replacement for yours to receive your signature payment. For goodness sake, if you are receiving about $120 worth of Bitcoin every week, then what is just a $1 or $2 fee that you cannot spear?

There is this saying in my place that goes like this: "When one finger is stained with oil, it spreads to all the five fingers."

Knowing that Naim027 did not have a clear reputation on this forum because I checked his account and saw he had about 12 tages, you should have been very careful and exempt yourself from interacting with such a user, knowing that if noticed on the forum, it will also tarnish your reputation here. You are more experienced than me, so I believe you should know better than I do.

Like myself, I will even be extremely careful if dealing with any account that has a very bad reputation because I know that since the person is not trusted, it can also affect my reputation in one way or another, and that's why I believe that Naim027 is still your alt account because, if it were not, you would not have to deal with such an account because you know it will affect your reputation if noticed, and you wouldn't want any other users with bad reputations to destroy your own reputation.

To me, this is no coincidence. "When one finger touches oil, it spreads across the remaining four fingers."

[_BlackStar]

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You are right, indeed. He always clears the telegram chat after the successful trade. According to him, Bitcoin and crypto trading is banned there, and he doesn't want to keep any evidence. I never felt I should take any screenshots.

I have advised you that it is only necessary to prove a few things instead of beating around the bush. Everything you say will not be believed because you are not presenting any evidence other than just further complicating your problem. If @Naim027 delete the chat because bitcoin is not legal in his country - then what about you? Do you also have the same idea and delete all the chats?

I have one screenshot I took a few months ago, which I can give you if you want.

You can prove it here - everyone will judge for himself the truth.

I'm not attacking you just because you made a bitcoin transaction with Naim027 - which basically happened outside of the forum. But considering that Naim027 is a user who has a bad reputation on the forum, so anyone who comes into direct contact with his wallet will be suspected of being an alt. You didn't even engage escrow when transaction with him ^{[especially his bad reputation]} and you likely have some things in common with him - so to defend yourself and your reputation, prove publicly that you are not alt Naim027.

[SamReomo]

Your country? I did not say I was from Bangladesh. I might be from Bangladesh, I might be from Italy. Or I might be from Russia.

The country isn't important in your case because you can also be from India if I'm not wrong. An Indian actor has same exact name as yours, and that's why you can also be from India. But, the real issue is not your location the real issue is that you sent Bitcoin to naim027's wallet who was banned from the forum. I'm not sure how but I have read many of your replies and considered you very smart in my mind before finding this post, but now I feel strange to know that how someone with such smartness could send his/her Bitcoin payment to a user's wallet who has been tagged by many reputed members of the forum.

I'm not against you or anyone, but unfortunately this time the OP has found the transactions and other users are also sure that you are naim027 alt-account. If you weren't naim027 then you would never send Bitcoin to that guy who was tagged by reputed members for his wrong activities. even someone with little understanding of the things would never ever send Bitcoin to someone's wallet who was banned in this forum and was red-tagged by reputed members of the forum.

I won't say anything more, but if you're innocent then you will get your previous respect from the forum members, but if the users confirm that you're somehow related to naim027 then I'm sorry to say that you'll not be accepted by this community anymore. In this forum, someone who has done ban evasion, will never be accepted, and this time fingers are pointed towards you. If you can prove your self and share as much evidence as you possibly can to prove your claim that you were just sending Bitcoin to the account for trading purpose only.

[Apocollapse]

At this point I am already doubting whether all of these will be his alts, due to my previous post in which I have edited to add an analysis of the accounts. If there was one who was caught cheating in the CM campaign and managed 4 alts, of which with 3 he used to make 50 posts a week, if I remember correctly, why wouldn't naim027 be able to manage 6, 7 or 8 alts when most campaigns pay for 25?

If we talk about the possibility someone might able to control many alts, it's possible. But I did a blind checking on both LDL and John Abraham profile, mostly about what both of them have doing in this forum, however it doesn't convince me to say they're alts. I'm not yet go in deeper about both of the accounts and I would be more happy if I was wrong.

You have nothing else to say except this. Do you live in the same country of 'naim027'? How 'naim027' sent you the USD? Can you show the proof of your conversation regarding those transactions? Why are you sending BTC to 'naim027' address from the whirlwind.money mixer after the 6th round payment?

Let's not forget with the past couple months case where someone using mod WhatsApp in order to convince everyone if his story was true.

[Hispo]

considering there are 169 million people in your country?

Your country? I did not say I was from Bangladesh. I might be from Bangladesh, I might be from Italy. Or I might be from Russia.

My man, what kind of answer is that?
You are being accused or being an alternative account of someone which has been caught red-handed cheating the rules of the forum and even deceiving important members of this community. Those evasive answers won't help your case.

If I was being accused of the same things you are being accused of, I would be as transparent as possible, say where I am from what I actually did, why I sent the money and even send all kinds of credible evidence to reputable members of this place, ect. For the sake of your own reputation. 

Does not make sense.

[JollyGood]

Your country? I did not say I was from Bangladesh. I might be from Bangladesh, I might be from Italy. Or I might be from Russia.

Is anybody really that interested now after the evasive conduct shown by you in this thread?

I don't have many things to share. Most of the evidence is public. Suppose someone does their research with a positive mind. They will figure it out.

Well, that sounds very much like something naim027 would write rather than simply post links without having to add to the drama.

@John Abraham, Well, just as Jollygood has said, strange things have happened here and it's even happening, but just that some people still have a carcass well hidden in their cupboard, which can be opened one day. ~snip~

There is this saying in my place that goes like this: "When one finger is stained with oil, it spreads to all the five fingers." ~snip~

To me, this is no coincidence. "When one finger touches oil, it spreads across the remaining four fingers." ~snip~

The most important thing here thing here is that John Abraham has chosen to be very selective when posting in this thread. First he chose to not over elaborate when questions were asked keeping answers limited and then he chose to do the same when the opportunity to clear his name arose again.

considering there are 169 million people in your country?

Your country? I did not say I was from Bangladesh. I might be from Bangladesh, I might be from Italy. Or I might be from Russia.

My man, what kind of answer is that?
You are being accused or being an alternative account of someone which has been caught red-handed cheating the rules of the forum and even deceiving important members of this community. Those evasive answers won't help your case.

If I was being accused of the same things you are being accused of, I would be as transparent as possible, say where I am from what I actually did, why I sent the money and even send all kinds of credible evidence to reputable members of this place, ect. For the sake of your own reputation. 

Does not make sense.

That is his reply and for him that is supposed to make sense because it is designed to misdirect people who are trying to look in to his activities in the forum. You are absolutely correct, he is being accused yet his answers remain evasive and to a degree they are somewhat condescending too.

[LoyceV]

considering there are 169 million people in your country?

Your country? I did not say I was from Bangladesh.

I assumed it:

Is this why you deleted your only post on the local board?

I don't know people who learn Bengali for fun, hence the assumption.

I might be from Bangladesh, I might be from Italy. Or I might be from Russia.

If someone would wrongly accuse me, I'd want to clear my name. Your response makes me think you can't do that.

[decodx]

I already explained this. I sold my BTC for Paypal.

That's all I heard from my friend. I don't use PayPal.

https://ninjastic.space/post/61818297

In a striking resemblance to Naim's modus operandi, a continuous stream of lies, one after another.

I did not say I was from Bangladesh. I might be from Bangladesh, I might be from Italy. Or I might be from Russia.

It's pretty fascinating how someone who may or may not be from Bangladesh seems to have a bit of a peculiar fascination with the Bangladesh national cricket team. [1] Not to mention that you're apparently also quite familiar with the Dhaka Dominators. [2] Wait, isn't Naim also from Dhaka?

[1] https://ninjastic.space/search?author=John%20Abraham&board=228&content=Bangladesh
[2] https://ninjastic.space/search?author=John%20Abraham&board=228&content=Dominators

[LoyceV]

I already explained this. I sold my BTC for Paypal.

That's all I heard from my friend. I don't use PayPal.

https://ninjastic.space/post/61818297

Good find! Confirmed!
Now we wait for the "I didn't use it at the time" excluse. The problem with lying is that it becomes harder and harder to keep your lies consistent. Being honest is so much easier!

This will be my Reference post for neutral feedback.

[Mahdirakib]

'naim027' is trying to insult me by creating this thread instead of providing the conversation proof from his 'John Abraham' account here. He is also using aggressive words towards me. The fun fact is that 'John Abraham' hasn't made any post in the forum yesterday as he spent his whole day (from 'naim027' account) to create a thread about me.

Thanks to those forum members who dug out the post history of 'John Abraham' to prove his lying behaviour. Apart from the evidence of the main post, here are few more posts which proves that 'John Abraham' is a serious liar and connected to 'naim027':

• He knows everything about the 'April fools' despite being inactive in the forum on the previous year (posted by lovesmayfamilis)
• Merit trading activity (posted by decodx)
• Said fake story about PayPal even though he is using Binance to sell his BTC (posted by FatFork)
• Lying about the usage of PayPal (posted by decodx)

[JollyGood]

The timing of the thread that naim027 created (to attack you) was highly suspect and it failed to divert from the core subject: Evidence heavily suggests John Abraham is an alt-account operated by naim027

Granted over the months since naim027 and his known alt-accounts were discussed he has tried to change his writing style a little but it does not cloud enough to add to any uncertainty that might be there. If he already spent most of yesterday using his naim027 account to attack you then I think he will soon give up on the the John Abraham account and concentrate on whatever alt-accounts he currently operates.

'naim027' is trying to insult me by creating this thread instead of providing the conversation proof from his 'John Abraham' account here. He is also using aggressive words towards me. The fun fact is that 'John Abraham' hasn't made any post in the forum yesterday as he spent his whole day (from 'naim027' account) to create a thread about me.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I am pretty sure it is him, even if the evidence is not 100% conclusive because he can always claim to have made a transaction with someone else.

That's how I got linked with my girlfriend's account (uberLOL)--blockchain evidence only, by the forum snoops.  I didn't deny it, even though I wanted to keep the account a secret just to keep the extremely off-color humor going. 

A'ight, back to the issue at hand:  I tripped and stumbled across this thread because John Abraham requested a post history review, and one of his most recent posts was in it.  I haven't read through everything yet but will do so after I go run some errands; I just want to know what the general community sentiment is about the accusation.  I did look through the first few posts, and it definitely looks like enough evidence to link the accounts.  There's no fakkin' way I'm handing out any merits to an alt account of someone who got banned for plagiarism and then tried to evade the ban.  I just want to be reasonably sure before I make a decision.

[Rikafip]

In a striking resemblance to Naim's modus operandi, a continuous stream of lies, one after another.

Oh lol, that is a nice find and yet another nail in his coffin. I am sure that he will find explanation for that as well, something like "I didn't use PayPal at the time post was written but now I do" or something along those lines.

Since he became pretty decent at merit farming (tbh it became much easier in the last year or so than it was before) I am pretty sure that this is not he last time we head about one of the naim027 alt accounts.

[Cuenta Alternativa]

A'ight, back to the issue at hand:  I tripped and stumbled across this thread because John Abraham requested a post history review, and one of his most recent posts was in it.  I haven't read through everything yet but will do so after I go run some errands; I just want to know what the general community sentiment is about the accusation.  I did look through the first few posts, and it definitely looks like enough evidence to link the accounts.  There's no fakkin' way I'm handing out any merits to an alt account of someone who got banned for plagiarism and then tried to evade the ban.  I just want to be reasonably sure before I make a decision.

I can see John Abraham's profile has two negative feedbacks and another two apparently neutral but saying that they don't trust him, so it does look likely that John Abraham is an alt account of that guy or someone not to trust.

Be careful with requests to review post histories because although you mean well, and you helped me to rank up with my main account with a review, it has also been commented on in the thread that he may have many other alts or be part of a farm, which have several things in common: posting on the local Bangladesh forum, in the Wall Observer thread and having participated in the pizza contest.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Be careful with requests to review post histories because although you mean well, and you helped me to rank up with my main account with a review, it has also been commented on in the thread that he may have many other alts or be part of a farm, which have several things in common: posting on the local Bangladesh forum, in the Wall Observer thread and having participated in the pizza contest.

So you're using this account to do what, exactly?  And I don't suppose you'll reveal your main account, but if I'm wrong I'm very curious.  But yes, I realize I might be helping some alts to rank up and I've said as much to some members--no one who offers to review posts would know who's an alt of who unless it had already been made public, but I have been in the situation of having given a lot of merits to members who turned out to be malicious alts or plagiarists or what have you, and it sucks.

Got back from my errands, read the rest of this thread, and there's enough evidence for me to conclude that John Abraham is an alt of naim023, and I'm going to tag him after I write this for evading a ban and wasting my time and sMerits.  I'm usually suspicious of accounts that consist of a western-sounding first and last name, and I should have heeded that suspicion last time I did a review for him.  Ugh.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Be careful with requests to review post histories because although you mean well, and you helped me to rank up with my main account with a review, it has also been commented on in the thread that he may have many other alts or be part of a farm, which have several things in common: posting on the local Bangladesh forum, in the Wall Observer thread and having participated in the pizza contest.

So you're using this account to do what, exactly?  And I don't suppose you'll reveal your main account, but if I'm wrong I'm very curious.

One of the few who does not hide his alternative account.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1107222
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3536303

[Cuenta Alternativa]

So you're using this account to do what, exactly?  And I don't suppose you'll reveal your main account, but if I'm wrong I'm very curious. 

LMAO. My maing account is Don Pedro Dinero, you have known me for years  .

As the other colleague has shown, I do not hide my main account.

Nor have I hidden my intentions with this account, I have made them explicit from the beginning in the following thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5440853.0

You can use any online translator if you are curious.

[JollyGood]

There's no fakkin' way I'm handing out any merits to an alt account of someone who got banned for plagiarism and then tried to evade the ban.  I just want to be reasonably sure before I make a decision.

What exactly naim027 did was pushing the boundaries by being a chief manipulator as well as a compulsive liar but the matter did not stop there. The fact his ban was removed and then not banned again (after he started his nonsense again) is a failure by the moderators.

But yes, I realize I might be helping some alts to rank up and I've said as much to some members--no one who offers to review posts would know who's an alt of who unless it had already been made public, but I have been in the situation of having given a lot of merits to members who turned out to be malicious alts or plagiarists or what have you, and it sucks.

Got back from my errands, read the rest of this thread, and there's enough evidence for me to conclude that John Abraham is an alt of naim023, and I'm going to tag him after I write this for evading a ban and wasting my time and sMerits.  I'm usually suspicious of accounts that consist of a western-sounding first and last name, and I should have heeded that suspicion last time I did a review for him.  Ugh.

I remember how bad you felt when it was discovered the number of merits you awarded naim027 and his alt-accounts, especially after he wrote to you asking for you to review his post history.

I wonder why he would ask for you to review the post history on the John Abraham account when he was already participating in the highest paying signature campaign (whirlwind), maybe it was a mistake on his part to do that as he was already a Snr Member with 500+ merits and had no immediate need to try to rank up with urgency as it would have happened by itself over time. Strange.

[light_warrior]

Has anyone else noticed this as well? I have long wanted to start this topic, I'm sure that naim027 has not gone away, but sits and abuses this forum from his many alts. At the moment, the following accounts fell into my field of view:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3417917 - Dimitri94

If you are sure that the account Dimitri94 belongs to the person who runs the account naim027, then it is also safe to say that naim027 is from Bangladesh. I found the email address ardiandimitri8@gmail.com in Dimitri94's posts and decided to see what a Google search of that address would give me. And it gave me a link to a Linkedin profile of a certain Ardian Dimitri, who just lives in Bangladesh.

Face plastered over in terms of privacy. Whoever needs it can easily find this profile.

It's just my guess.