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March 16, 2024, 01:04:33 PM
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[....]Placing bet on Real could be a good opportunity. If they somehow manage to get passed the City, it should be smooth sailing from there.
Putting a bet on them as early as now is still high risk but their fans would more gladly take that. I also don't know about smooth sailing since Arsenal or Bayern will be the next opponent if they somehow managed to win against City. They would likely become the huge favorite when that happens.

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March 16, 2024, 01:05:30 PM
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The quarterfinal matchup between Arsenal and Bayern Munich is one of the best in champions league football that I have seen thus far. Although it is obvious that Bayern Munich is not as strong as they were in previous seasons, that doesn't mean Arsenal can't win; Bayern Munich is a formidable opponent in the champions league. On the other hand, Arsenal struggles mightily against its opponents in the premier league. We should also be aware that Arsenal struggles to defeat Porto, so how can they defeat Bayern Munich? Arsenal games used to be difficult because Bayern Munich consistently outscored Arsenal in every encounter.

Barcelona vs. PSG is another match that promises to be very exciting to watch. This is because Dembele will be facing his official teammates, who have called him a betrayer for moving to PSG when Barcelona needed him. I would like him to score in the match so that Barcelona will feel even more pain and regret for making such a statement about him. The only other match that I can think of where the draw feature went wrong is Real Madrid vs. Manchester City. Real Madrid faced Manchester City only the season before, and Real Madrid was eliminated by Manchester City because of their poor performance. This season, I don't think Manchester City will easily defeat Real Madrid.

The Champions League is always one of the toughest football leagues to witness, and this time around is no different. We've got some very interesting fixtures in the quarter-finals, with virtually all the clubs that have reached this stage performing exceptionally well in their respective leagues. However, Dortmund has not really performed up to par, and Manchester and Atletico Madrid have also struggled in their leagues.

Interestingly, Arsenal will be playing against Bayern Munich, with Arsenal leading the Premier League table standings this season, while Bayern Munich holds the second position in the Bundesliga. Borussia Dortmund will face Atletico Madrid, with Dortmund in fourth position in the Bundesliga standings and Atletico Madrid also in fourth position in La Liga this season. The fixture matchups are quite intriguing.

Paris Saint-Germain FC, the current leaders of Ligue 1, will face Barcelona FC, who are third in La Liga. Historically, Barcelona has had the upper hand over PSG, but PSG's strong performance this season suggests a potential shift. Lastly, Manchester City will face Real Madrid, who lead the league this season, while Manchester City is third in the Premier League. It's uncertain whether this would give an edge to Real Madrid over Manchester City.

Considering the current performances of these clubs in their respective leagues, one could deduce that Arsenal may win over Bayern Munich, and Real Madrid may win over Manchester City. The match between Atletico Madrid and Dortmund could end in a draw, with high chances for either team to advance to the semifinals. PSG also has a good chance of winning over Barcelona, especially with players like Kylian Mbappé aiming to lead PSG to victory before his potential departure from the team.


The game between Barcelona and PSG is going to be very interesting to watch because PSG is in the Champions League to prove themselves after some players like Mesi and Neymar left the team and they want to finally have some achievements in this tournament after the huge money they spent over these years. While Barcelona doesn't have a good financial situation and they are very close to losing their coach Xavi because he had performed during the time when he was working in this team.
I think the game between Barcelona and PSG is the game between rich and poor.
Also, PSG is the team that got some players like Messi and Dembele from Barcelona because of having more money, and now maybe Barcelona can have the chance to take revenge on this team.
But regardless of all these, we are going to see the race between Enrique and Xavi and both were working in Barcelona. When Enrique was the coach of Barcelona, Xavi was playing there and they didn't have a good relationship because Enrique started using Rakitić instead of Xavi.


PSG has been spending much on Mbappe, but I believe that money cant buy Champions League love or wins. Barcelona is unmatched in this competition. Xavi's future and financial issues aside, Im betting on Barcelona. I expect Barcelona to go all out with their back against the wall, even though their head-to-head record is very even. Lewandowski and Felix could be Barcelona's wildcard to beat PSG's financial giants.

The draw has set up a match between Real Madrid and Man City so early in the tournament, which is heartbreaking. Both clubs can go all the way, making this quarterfinals seem like a final. As much as I like Barcelona, Real Madrid or Man City's loss will hurt the competition. Its sad that one of these giants must retire so soon, but thats football's beauty.

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March 16, 2024, 01:39:35 PM
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Updated odds for the outright Champions' League winner:



Man City, the current champion, being the favourite here does not surprise me, but the disproportions between their odds and the odds for other teams seem a bit strange to me. I don't think Man City is that much better than Arsenal or Real Madrid. I'd expect pay-out rates to be much closer to each other.
Placing bet on Real could be a good opportunity. If they somehow manage to get passed the City, it should be smooth sailing from there.
Any thoughts?
Hahaha the house knows better what they have to take to be able to have an advantage and also be the favorite in competition to give decent odd, but never be fooled by the odds given by the house because everything can still change significantly.
Manchester City, as last season champion, is the favorite and Real Madrid, who is the most successful team for the UCL, has quite big advantage over Manchester City, this is something that I think makes it little difficult for gamblers.
Just look, in the quarter-finals Manchester City will compete against Real Madrid and this will be difficult choice, Manchester City has the advantage on paper but they can also lose.
It just that I admit that Manchester City has advantages from several factors, one of which is perfect squad filled with all the great players who last season brought Manchester City to become champions.
I assume this meeting in the quarter-finals will only end in draw and the decision will be penalty shootout, for the first leg match I will not take the risk of betting money.
But for the second leg I would really make Manchester City the favorite in betting, especially since they have home match for the second leg.

What is quite surprising is that Arsenal is in second place, precisely behind Manchester City, this competition will be very difficult to predict.

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March 16, 2024, 02:18:41 PM
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If you look at Arsenal's performance in the last few games in the Champions League, and especially against FC Porto, they were a bit shaky, I believe, because of lack of experience, when in a big tournament like the UEFA Champions League. So I believe their lack of experience will cost them in this game against Bayern Munich, and Bayern Munich are not a team to be underestimated regardless of their recent performances.

Referring to the statistics of the Arsenal vs Porto match, both away and home, Arsenal always dominates the match. Arsenal also played quite well, unfortunately Mikel Arteta's squad had difficulty converting their chances into goals. Naturally, many say that Porto has a strong defense line. Well, on the other hand, in the quarter-final match, Bayern Munich should not underestimate Mikel Arteta's squad. Moreover, the first leg match will be played at the Emirates Stadium. Arsenal currently, even though they are not very experienced in the Champions League, they have a chance to overthrow Bayern Munich.

On the contrary, Tuchel must prepare his team so as not to underestimate the Gunners. fight at the Emirates Stadium, will benefit Arsenal in the first leg. Uniquely, both coaches apply offensive patterns. So, buying and selling attacks could happen. We also know that Bayern's performance sometimes goes ups and downs. So, it will not be an easy job for Tuchel to overthrow Arsenal. Arsenal today, not Arsenal 2017 ago. Currently, Mikel Arteta's squad is undoubtedly performing quite well, and is even still competing for trophies in its domestic league.
If we refer to the betting market, even though it is still temporary, in the first leg Arsenal is superior. Thus, the bookie predicts that Arsenal has a chance to win the match against Bayern in the first leg. To be sure, we'll just have to wait for this fight to be held later

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March 16, 2024, 02:38:56 PM
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If you look at Arsenal's performance in the last few games in the Champions League, and especially against FC Porto, they were a bit shaky, I believe, because of lack of experience, when in a big tournament like the UEFA Champions League. So I believe their lack of experience will cost them in this game against Bayern Munich, and Bayern Munich are not a team to be underestimated regardless of their recent performances.

Yeah Arsenal is not the favorite team in this tournament but their efforts have taken them through to the quarter-finals, when compared with Bayern Munich, of course Munich is the favorite but Arsenal can take advantage of the match in the first leg because we know Arsenal is quite strong when playing at home so if they can win then they will play defensively in the second leg I think Arsenal will use this strategy, regardless of whether it works or not we have to wait.

What caught our attention in the quarter finals was the match between Manchester City vs Real Madrid I think it's too fast because this match is more appropriate in the final it would be a shame if one of them had to leave in the quarter finals. Who do you prefer to go to the next round between Manchester City and Real Madrid? for me this is a difficult choice because I hope they are in the final.

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The game between Barcelona and PSG is going to be very interesting to watch because PSG is in the Champions League to prove themselves after some players like Mesi and Neymar left the team and they want to finally have some achievements in this tournament after the huge money they spent over these years. While Barcelona doesn't have a good financial situation and they are very close to losing their coach Xavi because he had performed during the time when he was working in this team.
I think the game between Barcelona and PSG is the game between rich and poor.
Also, PSG is the team that got some players like Messi and Dembele from Barcelona because of having more money, and now maybe Barcelona can have the chance to take revenge on this team.
But regardless of all these, we are going to see the race between Enrique and Xavi and both were working in Barcelona. When Enrique was the coach of Barcelona, Xavi was playing there and they didn't have a good relationship because Enrique started using Rakitić instead of Xavi.



I would love to say that, the young shaal grow same way it was years back with Jose Mourinho and Frank Lampard. I'd say same here now with Luis Enrique and Xavi Hernandez, but I'm afraid Luis Enrique is experienced and should have upper hand of how Barcelona and Xavi Hernandez would lineup.

Not too long, Robert Lewandoski also made metion of playing against Kylian Mbappe ND here they're together in the Champions League Competition before Kylian Mbappe finally moves to the Spanish League Competition at the start of the new season.

My Prediction is that, Paris Saint Germans would get the better of the game from both legs and would progress to the Champions League Semi Finals finally. Not really sure Enrique had issues with Xavi Hernandez, he's already played his best all over the past years. A chance for Ivan to.showcase himself was only permitted.

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March 16, 2024, 02:50:45 PM
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Arsenal vs Bayren Munich
This is a hard one to predict. They have been quite different from the last time they met. I'll bet on Bayren Munich as German playing style dominates over English.
I don’t think the German physical style of football is superior to English style of play. Bayern Munich are not looking so good this season. But on the other hand, Bayern Munich have the history, they have the experience, the players, and a manager Thomas Tuchel who has won the champions league before. It’s not impossible that they might beat Arsenal in the quarter final.
Arsenal and Bayern Munich already have different styles of play from their predecessors. Therefore history in the past can no longer be used as a reference, it's just that some of us see it as a curse. But this is the excitement of football. When Arsenal is in a situation that is promising enough to be able to provide resistance, Bayern Munich must be alert because the collaboration between their squad and the coach is not in harmony. Bayern Munich doesn't have what Arsenal have, namely the players trust in the coach. Bayern Munich is more demanding than giving freedom to the coach while Arsenal is completely controlled by Arteta.

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March 16, 2024, 02:57:58 PM
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I would love to say that, the young shaal grow same way it was years back with Jose Mourinho and Frank Lampard. I'd say same here now with Luis Enrique and Xavi Hernandez, but I'm afraid Luis Enrique is experienced and should have upper hand of how Barcelona and Xavi Hernandez would lineup.

Not too long, Robert Lewandoski also made metion of playing against Kylian Mbappe ND here they're together in the Champions League Competition before Kylian Mbappe finally moves to the Spanish League Competition at the start of the new season.

My Prediction is that, Paris Saint Germans would get the better of the game from both legs and would progress to the Champions League Semi Finals finally. Not really sure Enrique had issues with Xavi Hernandez, he's already played his best all over the past years. A chance for Ivan to.showcase himself was only permitted.

Barcelona continue to surprise me in the Champions League unlike their general look.  Smiley  First I thought Napoli would manage to eliminate them. However after watching the performances in the first leg Napoli were a huge disappointment for their fans. After that it wasn't too difficult for Barcelona to finish the work in the rematch.

Now their job is technically more difficult. PSG are a quite serious problem when we consider especially the Mbappe factor. I feel like this could be the round Barcelona say goodbye to the Champions League so I agree with you. Xavi has at least improved Barcelona's poor look in this tournament in the recent years.

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March 16, 2024, 03:01:39 PM
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Man City, the current champion, being the favourite here does not surprise me, but the disproportions between their odds and the odds for other teams seem a bit strange to me. I don't think Man City is that much better than Arsenal or Real Madrid. I'd expect pay-out rates to be much closer to each other.
Placing bet on Real could be a good opportunity. If they somehow manage to get passed the City, it should be smooth sailing from there.
Any thoughts?

These are just bookmarkers odds or predictions we all know most of this fail at the end of the day. If I am to rank any club winning a champions league every season I will always rate Real Madrid very high on the top of the list because it’s like it’s their competition. To me the match between Manchester city and Real Madrid is the only stumbling block to Madrid winning their 15th title if they overcome this they will be no match for the other teams.

But right now this Madrid team doesn’t look like the team that can beat Manchester city even though I don’t see city at their best this season. A second leg away from Santiago Bernabeu has hardly help Madrid and City hardly lose at home in the champions league so it will be difficult for Madrid to get pass it

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Updated odds for the outright Champions' League winner:



Man City, the current champion, being the favourite here does not surprise me, but the disproportions between their odds and the odds for other teams seem a bit strange to me. I don't think Man City is that much better than Arsenal or Real Madrid. I'd expect pay-out rates to be much closer to each other.
Placing bet on Real could be a good opportunity. If they somehow manage to get passed the City, it should be smooth sailing from there.
Any thoughts?
Hahaha the house knows better what they have to take to be able to have an advantage and also be the favorite in competition to give decent odd, but never be fooled by the odds given by the house because everything can still change significantly.
Manchester City, as last season champion, is the favorite and Real Madrid, who is the most successful team for the UCL, has quite big advantage over Manchester City, this is something that I think makes it little difficult for gamblers.
Just look, in the quarter-finals Manchester City will compete against Real Madrid and this will be difficult choice, Manchester City has the advantage on paper but they can also lose.
It just that I admit that Manchester City has advantages from several factors, one of which is perfect squad filled with all the great players who last season brought Manchester City to become champions.
I assume this meeting in the quarter-finals will only end in draw and the decision will be penalty shootout, for the first leg match I will not take the risk of betting money.
But for the second leg I would really make Manchester City the favorite in betting, especially since they have home match for the second leg.

What is quite surprising is that Arsenal is in second place, precisely behind Manchester City, this competition will be very difficult to predict.
The odds given seem to be changing again, and overall I don't agree that Real Madrid is below Arsenal and Manchester City. We need a lot of consideration when betting on the quarter final match, where I am also not very sure that Real Madrid will be eliminated by Manchester City again like last season in the semi-finals. Everything can change again because before the quarter final matches start, all contestants must play a number of other matches in their Domestic League first. Player injuries and other factors can affect their chances of winning.

Arsenal are indeed in their best performance, Arteta squad has a tough task to get rid of Bayern Munich. It's not an easy job to beat the Bundesliga giants, Thomas Tuchel will give everything to compete in the Champions League because he has lost his chance in the Bundesliga. If judging from an experience perspective, Barcelona is also a team that must be taken into account, I am sure the odds will change again. All teams have the potential to show different performances in their Domestic League, and it must be admitted that it is difficult to predict the upcoming matches.

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If you look at Arsenal's performance in the last few games in the Champions League, and especially against FC Porto, they were a bit shaky, I believe, because of lack of experience, when in a big tournament like the UEFA Champions League. So I believe their lack of experience will cost them in this game against Bayern Munich, and Bayern Munich are not a team to be underestimated regardless of their recent performances.
Bayern Munich vs Arsenal will be a tough match when they play in the Uefa Champions League quarterfinal. For me, Arsenal and Bayern Munich's strengths are the same, and they have the same pattern of play, but I think Arsenal is the favorite to win against Bayern Munich in the UEFA Champions League quarter-finals.

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March 16, 2024, 03:21:32 PM
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If you look at Arsenal's performance in the last few games in the Champions League, and especially against FC Porto, they were a bit shaky, I believe, because of lack of experience, when in a big tournament like the UEFA Champions League. So I believe their lack of experience will cost them in this game against Bayern Munich, and Bayern Munich are not a team to be underestimated regardless of their recent performances.
Bayern Munich vs Arsenal will be a tough match when they play in the Uefa Champions League quarterfinal. For me, Arsenal and Bayern Munich's strengths are the same, and they have the same pattern of play, but I think Arsenal is the favorite to win against Bayern Munich in the UEFA Champions League quarter-finals.

I think Bayern is still slightly favorites against Arsenal, Bayern has never failed to advance to the next round when they met Arsenal in the Champions League (4 times).
Arsenal might get 3 points in the 1st leg but most likely they will be eliminated because of the aggregate goals at Bayern home in the 2nd leg later.

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March 16, 2024, 03:29:43 PM
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If you look at Arsenal's performance in the last few games in the Champions League, and especially against FC Porto, they were a bit shaky, I believe, because of lack of experience, when in a big tournament like the UEFA Champions League. So I believe their lack of experience will cost them in this game against Bayern Munich, and Bayern Munich are not a team to be underestimated regardless of their recent performances.
Bayern Munich vs Arsenal will be a tough match when they play in the Uefa Champions League quarterfinal. For me, Arsenal and Bayern Munich's strengths are the same, and they have the same pattern of play, but I think Arsenal is the favorite to win against Bayern Munich in the UEFA Champions League quarter-finals.
If you look at Arsenal, even against Porto they had difficulty winning, what about against Munich, which might be more difficult than Porto? So far, Arsenal and Munich have always won the meeting with Munich with a landslide score, I'm not sure Arsenal can win this match, even though Munich played badly in Their domestic league always plays better in the UCL, there is no hope for Munich to catch up on the points difference with Leverkusen who are certain to win the title in the Bundesliga this season, so Munich only has a chance in the UCL.

I'm sure Tuchel will definitely put pressure on his players to perform as best as possible when facing Arsenal because the only hope of winning the title is in the UCL because in the domestic league they have failed and Munich's dominance has been broken by Leverkusen, Arsenal so far is also quite good but I don't think so. feel confident about their strength when facing Porto where they seem to have difficulty winning against Porto, I think Munich is also a difficult opponent for them and my prediction is that Munich will win hands down against Arsenal if Arteta doesn't prepare himself to set a better strategy when facing Munich Later.  Grin

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March 16, 2024, 03:39:28 PM
 #19214

Updated odds for the outright Champions' League winner:



Man City, the current champion, being the favourite here does not surprise me, but the disproportions between their odds and the odds for other teams seem a bit strange to me. I don't think Man City is that much better than Arsenal or Real Madrid. I'd expect pay-out rates to be much closer to each other.
Placing bet on Real could be a good opportunity. If they somehow manage to get passed the City, it should be smooth sailing from there.
Any thoughts?
Who will take the odds on Man City as this season's winner for UCL? I... still doubt it will certainly not be easy to get past Real Madrid despite last season's thwarting of Real Madrid.
I say it is difficult to pick now as the winner and if there is an offer from the bookies will not take it, difficult how Arsenal vs Bayern Munich who will compete in two home/away matches as well as Man City and Real Madrid in the home/away.

In that match alone we need to do more analysis to determine which choice because it is really interesting with the odds offered.

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March 16, 2024, 04:00:52 PM
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If you look at Arsenal's performance in the last few games in the Champions League, and especially against FC Porto, they were a bit shaky, I believe, because of lack of experience, when in a big tournament like the UEFA Champions League. So I believe their lack of experience will cost them in this game against Bayern Munich, and Bayern Munich are not a team to be underestimated regardless of their recent performances.
Bayern Munich vs Arsenal will be a tough match when they play in the Uefa Champions League quarterfinal. For me, Arsenal and Bayern Munich's strengths are the same, and they have the same pattern of play, but I think Arsenal is the favorite to win against Bayern Munich in the UEFA Champions League quarter-finals.
I think Bayern is still slightly favorites against Arsenal, Bayern has never failed to advance to the next round when they met Arsenal in the Champions League (4 times).
Arsenal might get 3 points in the 1st leg but most likely they will be eliminated because of the aggregate goals at Bayern home in the 2nd leg later.

Arsenal vs Bayern Munich match is very difficult to predict. The Bayern Munich team may be slightly ahead, because the Munich team is more experienced in the Champions League platform. However, Bayern Munich's performance has been erratic in recent times. The team is not able to perform well in the Bundesliga, as well as their performance in the Champions League match is not as good as expected. Munich were beaten in the first leg against a mediocre team like Lazio.

Arsenal team is very strong this season. The team is performing well in the Premier League matches. Arsenal is able to win most of the matches by a big margin. And so I would say that these two teams have equal chances of qualifying for the semi-finals.

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March 16, 2024, 04:02:30 PM
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If you look at Arsenal's performance in the last few games in the Champions League, and especially against FC Porto, they were a bit shaky, I believe, because of lack of experience, when in a big tournament like the UEFA Champions League. So I believe their lack of experience will cost them in this game against Bayern Munich, and Bayern Munich are not a team to be underestimated regardless of their recent performances.
Bayern Munich vs Arsenal will be a tough match when they play in the Uefa Champions League quarterfinal. For me, Arsenal and Bayern Munich's strengths are the same, and they have the same pattern of play, but I think Arsenal is the favorite to win against Bayern Munich in the UEFA Champions League quarter-finals.

I think Bayern is still slightly favorites against Arsenal, Bayern has never failed to advance to the next round when they met Arsenal in the Champions League (4 times).
Arsenal might get 3 points in the 1st leg but most likely they will be eliminated because of the aggregate goals at Bayern home in the 2nd leg later.
But currently Bayern Munich is not as ideal as before, with its current strength, I think Arsenal can still provide its own advantages. I know that when referring to H2H, Bayern Munich has never found it difficult to qualify, but with Arsenal's positive trend, maybe we can see a slight difference in results, depending on the determination of the players. Bayern Munich is indeed the favorite but Arsenal will also definitely prepare ways to give their best. Whoever passes will definitely have much greater potential to get to the final.
For the time being, Arsenal and Bayern Munich are 50:50 for me. Besides, the most exciting big match is Manchester City against Real Madrid. With the condition of each club, it is difficult to guess, but if you refer to the statistics, Manchester City's superiority on paper has a greater chance. But Madrid is still Madrid, which can always bring miracles to the field.

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March 16, 2024, 04:57:27 PM
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Atletico Madrid vs Dortmund and i have to says both is underrated teams and almost nobody to talk about their possibilities to gets the trophy or at least to the final match but i can understand about that because based on their current odds Atletico Madrid and Dortmund has low possibilities to gets the trophy but whether it Atletico Madrid and Dortmund can go this far because they can eliminate their opponents with very well because Atletico Madrid can successfully to beat last season finalist Inter Milan and Dortmund was eliminate PSV

If i am not mistaken Dortmund was being an the champion once time on 1996 and they also can able to reach to the final match on season 2012-2013 but at that time Dortmund have to lost from Bayern Munich and for Atletico Madrid under Simeone this team can reach to the final matches twice but unfortunately Atletico Madrid was unlucky because they have to lost against the same team Real Madrid twice too however about this match actually it is hard to predicted because i considers both teams is equally strong but first leg will be held at Atletico Madrid home ground and my predictions is they can able to beat Dortmund with narrow scores

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March 16, 2024, 04:58:42 PM
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I have doubts in every key this time, only in the Atletico - Dortmund one i can see a favorite to win wich is Atletico clearly, but in the other games i dont really see it, between Man City and Real Madrid i see a 60-40 and for the other games im 50-50 in both remaining games.

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March 16, 2024, 05:07:27 PM
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If you look at Arsenal's performance in the last few games in the Champions League, and especially against FC Porto, they were a bit shaky, I believe, because of lack of experience, when in a big tournament like the UEFA Champions League. So I believe their lack of experience will cost them in this game against Bayern Munich, and Bayern Munich are not a team to be underestimated regardless of their recent performances.
Arsenal would play Bayern Munich as an underdog in the UCL quarter- finals that means pressure would be on Bayern to win the match and it's obvious the present Bayern is not like the previous formidable team they had been on and of  in term of their performances in Bundesliga , however the present Arsenal team can't be underrated notwithstanding there match against Porto which they narrowly won, Porto didn't give them the chances to play there usual free-flowing passes and not shaky Arsenal all effort to score more goals proved abortive and was thwarted by Porto defence manned by legendary Pepe whose wealth of experience helped Porto to stop Arsenal from scoring,

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March 16, 2024, 05:16:52 PM
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I have doubts in every key this time, only in the Atletico - Dortmund one i can see a favorite to win wich is Atletico clearly, but in the other games i dont really see it, between Man City and Real Madrid i see a 60-40 and for the other games im 50-50 in both remaining games.
Do you doubt Dortmund?
I think that's a big mistake, Atletico's performance this season has been inconsistent and their victory over Inter Milan cannot be a reference that they can do the same against Atletico.
In terms of quality, Atletico and Dortmund don't have a significant difference so I think these two teams still have the same chance of qualifying for the semifinals.

Arsenal would play Bayern Munich as an underdog in the UCL quarter- finals that means pressure would be on Bayern to win the match and it's obvious the present Bayern is not like the previous formidable team they had been on and of  in term of their performances in Bundesliga , however the present Arsenal team can't be underrated notwithstanding there match against Porto which they narrowly won, Porto didn't give them the chances to play there usual free-flowing passes and not shaky Arsenal all effort to score more goals proved abortive and was thwarted by Porto defence manned by legendary Pepe whose wealth of experience helped Porto to stop Arsenal from scoring,
I think Bayern will be very favorites to win against Arsenal.
What happened in the past has made Bayern more confident, they have a good record when facing Arsenal and also Bayern this season will be ambitious enough to win the Champions League title because that is the only trophy they can possibly win.
In fact, currently the pressure is on the Arsenal team.

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