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May 16, 2024, 03:59:06 PM
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It is natural that Real Madrid is very confident to win the Champion league, besides because Madrid has gained peace in the Domestic League because their victory has been set before the League match is finished in La Liga, and we saw yesterday's match Real Madrid against Alaves using their second layer players to maintain the stamina of some of their main players.

Meanwhile Dortmund lost to Mainz05 by 3 - 0, but overall Dortmund dominated the match and it makes no sense not to get a goal, I suspect this is a trap for Real Madrid so that they let their guard down and assume that Dortmund are weak, as many people say.
Real Madrid are the kings of the UCL, they have quite a high mentality when playing in the UCL final match and also the opponent they will face is Dortmund who are not stronger in strength than Real Madrid so it is natural that Real Madrid are favored and they are quite confident.
However, this should not be excessive because in the final match anything is possible to happen so Real Madrid still has to be wary of Dortmund.
Wining most of the UCL trophies is not a guarantee that Real Madrid would win this season. Football is unpredictable and you shouldn't think Dortmund won't win the league. Since they have struggled and reach the final level, they can possibly win the league if that is what fate has kept for them.

However, it's very closed 1st of June is the day and i believe there is enough time for Dortmund to prepare themselves. Real Madrid may likely give the title to Dortmund at the end if they are not defensive cautious.

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May 16, 2024, 04:00:51 PM
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It is natural that Real Madrid is very confident to win the Champion league, besides because Madrid has gained peace in the Domestic League because their victory has been set before the League match is finished in La Liga, and we saw yesterday's match Real Madrid against Alaves using their second layer players to maintain the stamina of some of their main players.

Meanwhile Dortmund lost to Mainz05 by 3 - 0, but overall Dortmund dominated the match and it makes no sense not to get a goal, I suspect this is a trap for Real Madrid so that they let their guard down and assume that Dortmund are weak, as many people say.
Real Madrid are the kings of the UCL, they have quite a high mentality when playing in the UCL final match and also the opponent they will face is Dortmund who are not stronger in strength than Real Madrid so it is natural that Real Madrid are favored and they are quite confident.
However, this should not be excessive because in the final match anything is possible to happen so Real Madrid still has to be wary of Dortmund.
Real Madrid can definitely get a very good victory against Dortmund, because it is true as you say that Real Madrid has a winning mentality and a very good experienced UCL ruler, while Dortmund itself cannot be imagined to get an easy victory for Dortmund against Real Madrid with a lot of experience.

The defeat of Mainz 05 shows how much it is possible to give us confidence about the potential of Dortmund to win the final match, this is a reflection of us for an assessment of dortmund, on the other hand also Dortmund got a pretty good position in its journey in the UCL league, until it could reach the final match quite well.

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May 16, 2024, 04:10:03 PM
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At the moment, the odds for the Champions League final Dortmund - Real Madrid are as follows:

4.80 - 4.40 - 1.63

Real is the favorite based on literally everything (the selection of players, the position in the national championship, the difficulty of the path to the final that had to be overcome), but Dortmund also has a chance. Dortmund is the kind of team that can beat anyone on a good day, so the final will not be easy for Real.
Dortmund in the coming final match with Real Madrid will lack of a world class striker like Robert Lewandowski years ago when he scored four goals against Real Madrid. Dortmund in this season have main of their strength from team working and they don't rely too much on any single star player. This makes Dortmund is an united team with considerable strength to play together, against many strong opponents.

They can play defensive and attacking as a united squad for a common objective of their team and their players are very disciplined to follow tactical commands from their coach. Together with a team-working strength, they will challenge Real Madrid a lot in the final even they are not favorite team to win the match.

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May 16, 2024, 04:19:14 PM
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At the moment, the odds for the Champions League final Dortmund - Real Madrid are as follows:

4.80 - 4.40 - 1.63

Real is the favorite based on literally everything (the selection of players, the position in the national championship, the difficulty of the path to the final that had to be overcome), but Dortmund also has a chance. Dortmund is the kind of team that can beat anyone on a good day, so the final will not be easy for Real.
Dortmund in the coming final match with Real Madrid will lack of a world class striker like Robert Lewandowski years ago when he scored four goals against Real Madrid. Dortmund in this season have main of their strength from team working and they don't rely too much on any single star player. This makes Dortmund is an united team with considerable strength to play together, against many strong opponents.

They can play defensive and attacking as a united squad for a common objective of their team and their players are very disciplined to follow tactical commands from their coach. Together with a team-working strength, they will challenge Real Madrid a lot in the final even they are not favorite team to win the match.



There is no doubt that Dortmund is the strongest team in the Champions League this season. They are very cunning. Dortmund's defense is particularly strong. And that's why Dortmund's gameplay against PSG in the semi-final was so stable. And both matches were won by Dortmund.

Dortmund have won the Champions League title once and finished runners-up once in their Champions League history. Dortmund won the Champions League title in 1997. Dortmund became champions in 1997 after defeating Juventus in the final. And in the 2013 final, Dortmund lost against Bayern Munich.

Real Madrid are very experienced in the Champions League platform. On the other hand, this season Dortmund team is tactical. So the Dortmund vs Madrid match looks to be a very competitive one.

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May 16, 2024, 04:19:55 PM
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At the moment, the odds for the Champions League final Dortmund - Real Madrid are as follows:

4.80 - 4.40 - 1.63

Real is the favorite based on literally everything (the selection of players, the position in the national championship, the difficulty of the path to the final that had to be overcome), but Dortmund also has a chance. Dortmund is the kind of team that can beat anyone on a good day, so the final will not be easy for Real.

The odds will definitely be in favour of Real Madrid since they have been in the limelight of European competitions and are successful in most of their finals so we shouldn't expect anything less, for Borussia Dortmund they have won the champions League ones of of the two times the reached the finals, they won juventus in 1997  by 3:1 and lift the trophy that was their first ever Champions league trophy till date and during that year champions league it was recorded that Dortmund won Manchester united by 1:0 each in first leg and second leg in the semi finals and had an aggregate result of 2:0 before they entered the finals and won Juventus. Now will history repeat itself again this season because Borussia Dortmund also won PSG by 1:0 in both first and second leg of this seasons semi finals and also had an aggregate result of 2:0 and they're in the finals with Real Madrid now.

Real Madrid in the other hand have the best champions league record as they have won the trophy on 14th occasion out of their 17 appearance in the finals and achievement no other club have gotten in the champions league history so definitely the finals is gonna be Epic regardless of the fact that Real Madrid have better chances of lifting the trophy again.

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May 16, 2024, 04:24:07 PM
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I think no one should underestimate Borussia Dortmund, the final match will of course be different and everything is still possible and every team that has been in the final is the best team this season so I don't think that Real Madrid will underestimate Borussia Dortmund in final match later.
And I think that Real Madrid are favored too much, they are slightly favored because in terms of quality Real Madrid is a little better than Borussia Dortmund this season but I'm sure the final match will still be fierce later.

in a match like this you can never say with certainty who wins or who loses, it is still a final and if both teams have arrived here it means they are strong
honestly I dont think I will bet, it is too difficult to predict, I will just watch the match and enjoy it as a spectator!

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May 16, 2024, 04:29:20 PM
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Real Madrid are the kings of the UCL, they have quite a high mentality when playing in the UCL final match and also the opponent they will face is Dortmund who are not stronger in strength than Real Madrid so it is natural that Real Madrid are favored and they are quite confident.
However, this should not be excessive because in the final match anything is possible to happen so Real Madrid still has to be wary of Dortmund.
Well, in the final anything can happen. Unexpected things can also happen. But the problem is that Real Madrid very rarely loses the title when they reach the final round. Dortmund's performance in the last match in the Bundesliga was also not very good. It's just that Dortmund has more preparation time to face the Final match in the Champions League. Because the Bundesliga season will end this week. So Dortmund only has 1 more match in the Bundesliga after that Dortmund has no other schedule before the UCL final. So Dortmund can take advantage of this to make more thorough preparations. Meanwhile, Real Madrid has 2 matches to face before competing in the UCL Final. But for Real Madrid maybe that is normal. So Real Madrid will always be ready for any situation. But we really shouldn't be too confident in the team we like.
I've always told people that Dortmund can be dangerous, there is no doubt about the fact that Real Madrid have all the experience players that they need to conquer their quest to win the champions League final, but I've seen Dortmund play even when they played against PSG i saw how they where able control their defensive pattern, and how they can take on any opportunity to score and try to defend that goal till the end of the match. The champions League final comes with a different aura, so a team like Dortmund would like to prove a point even though for me, they are underdog that shouldn't be seen as an undersong because of how surprising they can be.
I agree with you that Madrid can be ready for any situation, giving the quality of players they have on their own side that can as well turn things around, a very good example is vini junior, that young man has too much of potentials to change the game at any moment.

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May 16, 2024, 04:38:26 PM
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I think no one should underestimate Borussia Dortmund, the final match will of course be different and everything is still possible and every team that has been in the final is the best team this season so I don't think that Real Madrid will underestimate Borussia Dortmund in final match later.
And I think that Real Madrid are favored too much, they are slightly favored because in terms of quality Real Madrid is a little better than Borussia Dortmund this season but I'm sure the final match will still be fierce later.
in a match like this you can never say with certainty who wins or who loses, it is still a final and if both teams have arrived here it means they are strong
honestly I dont think I will bet, it is too difficult to predict, I will just watch the match and enjoy it as a spectator!
We will now only speculate and predict what will happen in the final, if the result is different then this is a match that any team can win, but what we know is that Real Madrid when it is in the final it will be difficult to beat and its history is more won than lost.

I'll be watching and betting that it will be a thrilling spectacle, but I favor Real Madrid over Dortmund because of the experience and quality of the players and the mentality of the players is certainly still far away while Real Madrid has classy experience.

The odds mentioned above are quite reasonable because the bookies certainly give small odds to Real Madrid because many have predicted the final will be won by Los Blancos.

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May 16, 2024, 04:45:22 PM
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I am one of the most anxious people to see the result of this final game. Champions league is one big tournament that people are always happy to reach. In fact, it is one trophy that every club in the Europe dreams of. Luckily enough, Real Madrid have been the Champions in the world because they have taken the trophy much more than any other club had. They have become the best club in the Champions league and here they are again this year to witness another yet amazing final which is slated on the 1st of June.

If Dortmund is able to take this trophy they will almost go mad with celebration because this will be another time they will be making it happen again for the second time. It will be a special day and year for them and the entire club will be happy to witness such greatness.
UEFA Champions League is game of quality and consistency with surprises and upsets are also part of this as well before start of the season no one were expecting they are going to have Borussia Dortmund and Real Madrid into final because there were too many strong teams which were giving good performance were favourite, but we have them into final which is huge upset, and now we are expecting good match between two teams even mostly peoples are expecting this is going to be one-sided win for the Real Madrid as they are having good and competitive squad which is giving his best throughout season.

But, as we all know we can expect any result so Borussia Dortmund fans are also excited about this final and looking for their team to win this title second time into their history even their performance was not good into Bundesliga where they are ending at the fifth spot.

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Lunin staying at Real Madrid would be a very tough thing, I really doubt that will happen. Curtouis is back and he has shown again last game that he hasn't lost a single bit of his skills after the injury, it was a very tough injury that is right, and I do expect Lunin to start at the final game, you do not just stay injured all season long and start playing at the UCL finals, that would be weird, not unlikely and could still happen but I do expect Lunin to play instead.

But that still doesn't mean that Lunin will stay, I think they will go back to Courtois soon enough and next season he will be their goalkeeper. Lunin and Joselu looks like the two players I am pretty sure they will not be working with next season, and Modric seems ot be leaving as well.

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May 16, 2024, 04:57:41 PM
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UEFA Champions League is game of quality and consistency with surprises and upsets are also part of this as well before start of the season no one were expecting they are going to have Borussia Dortmund and Real Madrid into final because there were too many strong teams which were giving good performance were favourite, but we have them into final which is huge upset, and now we are expecting good match between two teams even mostly peoples are expecting this is going to be one-sided win for the Real Madrid as they are having good and competitive squad which is giving his best throughout season.

But, as we all know we can expect any result so Borussia Dortmund fans are also excited about this final and looking for their team to win this title second time into their history even their performance was not good into Bundesliga where they are ending at the fifth spot.
Dortmund is not a top team so it is difficult to guess whether this team will make it to the final. The Champions League can always bring surprises, which sometimes makes some people have to accept the harsh reality of the betting market. Real Madrid has always been the favorite and I'm not that surprised that they were able to reach the final, in fact quite a lot of people have said that they will be able to easily beat Dortmund to win their 15th title. However, I still hope that the match can be quite tough and not one-sided because if we refer to the Bundesliga, Dortmund is not worthy of being the champion.

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May 16, 2024, 04:58:01 PM
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At the moment, the odds for the Champions League final Dortmund - Real Madrid are as follows:

4.80 - 4.40 - 1.63

Real is the favorite based on literally everything (the selection of players, the position in the national championship, the difficulty of the path to the final that had to be overcome), but Dortmund also has a chance. Dortmund is the kind of team that can beat anyone on a good day, so the final will not be easy for Real.
Madrid are very favorite but I'm not really surprised because looking at the situation that happened where their performance is now very good and with Madrid's high chance, it is quite natural that Madrid are very favorite in today's match but I think it's also a little difficult because looking at the actual odds Madrid is too jumping with Dortmund and that's not really suitable for the final odds.

This is the last match before lifting the trophy so giving such big odds to Dortmund seems as if Dortmund are underestimated and I don't see them like that because for now, looking at the actual final conditions, we know that both clubs still have a chance and Dortmund also actually always plays very well even though the probability is still lower when compared to Real Madrid.

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May 16, 2024, 05:01:04 PM
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Well, in the final anything can happen. Unexpected things can also happen. But the problem is that Real Madrid very rarely loses the title when they reach the final round. Dortmund's performance in the last match in the Bundesliga was also not very good. It's just that Dortmund has more preparation time to face the Final match in the Champions League. Because the Bundesliga season will end this week. So Dortmund only has 1 more match in the Bundesliga after that Dortmund has no other schedule before the UCL final. So Dortmund can take advantage of this to make more thorough preparations. Meanwhile, Real Madrid has 2 matches to face before competing in the UCL Final. But for Real Madrid maybe that is normal. So Real Madrid will always be ready for any situation. But we really shouldn't be too confident in the team we like.
I've always told people that Dortmund can be dangerous, there is no doubt about the fact that Real Madrid have all the experience players that they need to conquer their quest to win the champions League final, but I've seen Dortmund play even when they played against PSG i saw how they where able control their defensive pattern, and how they can take on any opportunity to score and try to defend that goal till the end of the match. The champions League final comes with a different aura, so a team like Dortmund would like to prove a point even though for me, they are underdog that shouldn't be seen as an undersong because of how surprising they can be.
I agree with you that Madrid can be ready for any situation, giving the quality of players they have on their own side that can as well turn things around, a very good example is vini junior, that young man has too much of potentials to change the game at any moment.

Borussia Dortmund is indeed the unseeded team in the Champions League this season but with all their efforts they turned into dark horses and were even able to advance to the final. I think Borussia Dortmund have very high motivation to win because the Champions League final is not something they often encounter every season, so they likely won't waste this rare opportunity. It's just that there is one thing that is not yet convincing, I feel that Borussia Dortmund does not yet have a winning mentality like Real Madrid has. So if the final match atmosphere instead weighs them down too much, it would actually take away their opportunity.

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There is no doubt that Dortmund is the strongest team in the Champions League this season. They are very cunning. Dortmund's defense is particularly strong. And that's why Dortmund's gameplay against PSG in the semi-final was so stable. And both matches were won by Dortmund.

Dortmund have won the Champions League title once and finished runners-up once in their Champions League history. Dortmund won the Champions League title in 1997. Dortmund became champions in 1997 after defeating Juventus in the final. And in the 2013 final, Dortmund lost against Bayern Munich.

Real Madrid are very experienced in the Champions League platform. On the other hand, this season Dortmund team is tactical. So the Dortmund vs Madrid match looks to be a very competitive one.
And the fact that Dortmund has managed to reach the Final also indicates that this team really has its own way of overcoming the strong teams they have faced. And this method has brought them to the final stage. So Real Madrid really needs to be careful. And from what I have observed, this team even has quite fast surprise attacks. which even overwhelmed PSG several times in the semi-finals yesterday. And we have to admit that Dortmund actually also seems to have very high luck. for example, how many times PSG almost scored a goal but always hit the post and crossbar. One or two times might have been a coincidence but if I remember correctly PSG almost scored a lot of goals and 4 of them hit the post and crossbar. And even Mbappe, who shot from in front of the Dortmund goal, was unlucky at that time because his shot hit the crossbar. So even though Real Madrid may have a better performance, we never know which club luck will side with.

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May 16, 2024, 05:13:06 PM
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Well, in the final anything can happen. Unexpected things can also happen. But the problem is that Real Madrid very rarely loses the title when they reach the final round. Dortmund's performance in the last match in the Bundesliga was also not very good. It's just that Dortmund has more preparation time to face the Final match in the Champions League. Because the Bundesliga season will end this week. So Dortmund only has 1 more match in the Bundesliga after that Dortmund has no other schedule before the UCL final. So Dortmund can take advantage of this to make more thorough preparations. Meanwhile, Real Madrid has 2 matches to face before competing in the UCL Final. But for Real Madrid maybe that is normal. So Real Madrid will always be ready for any situation. But we really shouldn't be too confident in the team we like.
Real Madrid have won their last 8 Champions League finals so far, so of course they are also predicted to win 9 finals in a row this season. The last time Real Madrid failed in the Champions League final was in 1981, that was a long time ago. This season Real Madrid is clearly the favorite to win it, but Dortmund is not a team to be underestimated.

You are right, everything is still possible because the title winner will be determined after the match is over, not before the match starts. Dortmund have a chance to win the title, but they are not favorites compared to Real Madrid. I believe Real Madrid have a bigger chance, they will probably win it.
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May 16, 2024, 05:14:07 PM
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Nobody wants Real Madrid to win another CL except for Madrid fans.

It's good that Dortmund's fans are behind the players. But that's not really relevant when half of the Webmley staduim is going to be filled with celebrities and iShowSpeed youtuber types anyway. The fans will really not be able to do anything to help them in the final, so it's up to the players to stop them.

I don't have my hopes up though. It's gonna be like that Man City vs Inter final last year, won't it.

well I decided to bet on Real Madrid so I basically support Real Madrid
I am certainly not a fan, but I like the team: how they play, their philosophy, they have a coach who I respect and respect

So for me it is natural to support the Spanish team between the two Smiley and i think RM win the cup

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May 16, 2024, 05:21:31 PM
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At the moment, the odds for the Champions League final Dortmund - Real Madrid are as follows:

4.80 - 4.40 - 1.63

Real is the favorite based on literally everything (the selection of players, the position in the national championship, the difficulty of the path to the final that had to be overcome), but Dortmund also has a chance. Dortmund is the kind of team that can beat anyone on a good day, so the final will not be easy for Real.

Do you recall them beating Real Madrid in the Champions League Semi Finals with Jurgen Klopp as head coach ( Robert Lewandoski scoring four good goals )
They went on to the finals against Bayern Munich bit still failed to win the Champions League finals as they failed to convert useful chances that they had.

Them odds are already clear, but it's football, the bookmakers are not deciders on what happens on the pitch. Real Madrid will also see some of them legends leaving the club as they would want to give them the perfect send off.

Yeah, Real Madrid had to go through Manchester City, Pep Guardiola and also Bayern Munich ad these two sides has a strong place in the Champions League Competition in thr last couple of seasons. It was good to see jow they went defensively to defeat Manchester City finally with penalties.

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May 16, 2024, 05:28:22 PM
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Nobody wants Real Madrid to win another CL except for Madrid fans.

It's good that Dortmund's fans are behind the players. But that's not really relevant when half of the Webmley staduim is going to be filled with celebrities and iShowSpeed youtuber types anyway. The fans will really not be able to do anything to help them in the final, so it's up to the players to stop them.

I don't have my hopes up though. It's gonna be like that Man City vs Inter final last year, won't it.
Quality difference is increasing with huge investments are making things pretty dull even few teams like we have in few leagues are doing good job without huge investments but still things are not like we have few years back and fans want to have some interesting with in this game we are going to have on papers no competition for the Real Madrid like we have in last season while we have Inter Milan vs Manchester City and most chances result is also going to happen like this even peoples want to have new champions which is looking not easy.

After decades, we are having Dortmund into final and surely their fans are desperate for their win as well after beating teams like Atlético Madrid and PSG we can expect them to have good fight till end with any team can win and having title into their hands, but Real Madrid is always ready for the all situations which make them one of the best into soccer world.

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May 16, 2024, 05:44:16 PM
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At the moment, the odds for the Champions League final Dortmund - Real Madrid are as follows:

4.80 - 4.40 - 1.63

Real is the favorite based on literally everything (the selection of players, the position in the national championship, the difficulty of the path to the final that had to be overcome), but Dortmund also has a chance. Dortmund is the kind of team that can beat anyone on a good day, so the final will not be easy for Real.
Dortmund in the coming final match with Real Madrid will lack of a world class striker like Robert Lewandowski years ago when he scored four goals against Real Madrid. Dortmund in this season have main of their strength from team working and they don't rely too much on any single star player. This makes Dortmund is an united team with considerable strength to play together, against many strong opponents.

They can play defensive and attacking as a united squad for a common objective of their team and their players are very disciplined to follow tactical commands from their coach. Together with a team-working strength, they will challenge Real Madrid a lot in the final even they are not favorite team to win the match.



There is no doubt that Dortmund is the strongest team in the Champions League this season. They are very cunning. Dortmund's defense is particularly strong. And that's why Dortmund's gameplay against PSG in the semi-final was so stable. And both matches were won by Dortmund.

Dortmund have won the Champions League title once and finished runners-up once in their Champions League history. Dortmund won the Champions League title in 1997. Dortmund became champions in 1997 after defeating Juventus in the final. And in the 2013 final, Dortmund lost against Bayern Munich.

Real Madrid are very experienced in the Champions League platform. On the other hand, this season Dortmund team is tactical. So the Dortmund vs Madrid match looks to be a very competitive one.
Personally, I don't think that Dortmund is the strongest club this season in the champions league because they have not lifted up the trophy yet, neither will they survive the finals against Real Madrid. I am not a Real Madrid fan, but one thing I can remember is that when it comes to the champions league finals which involves Real Madrid, they have never lost it. I don't think that this season will be a different one since they have enough experience of playing the finals, while Dortmund lack experience of playing UCL finals.

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May 16, 2024, 05:55:22 PM
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By the way, Anceloti was able to surprise in the matches with City when he chose a defensive strategy against City, it was very unexpected and Real showed that, if necessary, they can defend very well. But in the matches with City everything was decided in a penalty shootout, because the teams played very well, the matches were equal and it was very difficult to determine the winner from the game. And penalties are, to some extent, luck and the skill of the goalkeepers. Lunin really was better that evening. By the way, who will Ancelotti put in the final, Courtois or Lunin?
Lunin made a big contribution when Real Madrid managed to get rid of Manchester City in the penalty shootout, his skills in reading the direction of the ball were worthy of appreciation and he managed to prove to Ancelotti that he deserved to be included in the main squad. In the last two matches Real Madrid played in La Liga, Ancelotti always entrusted the goalkeeper position to Courtois, perhaps in the final match Ancelotti will again include Courtois name in the main squad when Real Madrid faces Dortmund.
I don't really care which goalkeeper Ancelotti plays, both have the quality to fill the main squad. Ancelotti, who is very experienced in arranging strategy, will certainly have full confidence in the players who will be included in the main line-up, their success in maintaining their performance will give them an advantage in this final.
25 years old Ukrainian having good time in this season with his effort against Manchester city was impressive, and he is surely going to have good career ahead as he is having good skills of reading players directions which we watch in quarterfinal against Manchester City which making him first choice goalkeeper for the Champions League, and he is surely currently one of the best players like we have few best in business for the Real Madrid but as reports are coming most chances we are going to have Courtois into final game against Dortmund which is also good as he is also doing good.

Carlos Ancelotti is one of the best coach in current era as he understands all situations and playing conditions which helps his team for having their best if they are going to win this could be historic moment for them with they are going to have second double in just three years which is never been easy for any team.

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