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July 31, 2023, 03:35:18 PM
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It's very natural that after losing Lionel Messi, Barcelona seemed to have lost a leader on the field and that was clearly felt. Even other players such as Sergio Bosquest and Jordi Alba also could not restore the confidence of every player. I think barcelona should have prepared for that and there's no way they will continue to rely on just one player. On the other hand, they also have to develop more and with a new squad, all the legacy of their seniors must continue with the same mentality. Maybe it's not appropriate for a team like Barcelona to experience this continuously and I think they have to break this bad result in the Champions League this season.
Barcelona is heading in a better direction after going through a bad period since losing Messi, it is clear that Barcelona really feels they have lost an important figure that makes them experience a decline in performance because they are very dependent on the presence of Lionel Messi. Xavi is trying to build Barcelona into a team that doesn't rely too much on just one player, the ideology that Xavi has implemented has begun to form with the success of winning two trophies last season.
The squad that Barcelona has under the direction of Xavi has formed a strong chemistry between fellow players, I think Barcelona will soon become part of the favorite team to win the UCL if they are able to improve on the abilities that have been shown last season.

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July 31, 2023, 03:38:04 PM
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I can say currently Manchester City is the only team we know they can have hope for the next Champions League title with Pep Guardiola because they are still in good form and they could stay stable and keep the main players they need for the next season. Also, Guardiola is improving the team and we can see even stronger Manchester City in the next Champions League season.

Haaland and De Bruyne are the best in the world. There is no better striker than Haaland and no better midfielder than De Bruyne in my eyes. For this reason, they are the favorites of this cup for me as well. However, this is a tournament and tournaments have different atmospheres. Also, teams like Real Madrid, who have a lot of tournament habits, can always change the balance. That's why I see Manchester City as the first favorite in the Champions League, but I can't be sure because in this tournament the best in the world are competing and they are fighting to prove to everyone that they are the best.

Yes indeed, basically Manchester City still has a good chance to be able to win again in the Champions League next season. Because after all, if I consider other favorite clubs like Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, PSG and maybe there are several other clubs too, but in reality they are all still trying to improve the team's performance. But at the same time, Manchester City already has a good performance and at this moment, Manchester City only needs to maintain this good performance, unlike other teams who still have to start building. So yes, Manchester City will still have a good chance in the Champions League but still, a big effort must be made because nothing is easy to achieve great achievements.

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July 31, 2023, 03:41:44 PM
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Arsenal are going to be one of the new teams around here after a long break. I'm curious about their performance especially. Because they had a really amazing season in the English Premier League. Maybe they missed a big chance to become even the champions but they still had an incredible run. Now Arteta will be expected to have the same performance with the team in the Champions League as well. However this is technically a much more difficult task for him of course.

Because they are a really young team and the new team leader is going to be Odegaard after Xhaka's departure. I wonder how being a very young team will affect their consistency especially.

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July 31, 2023, 03:48:12 PM
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Barcelona cant repeat the shamefull performance of last two years, being stuck on group phase and falling into Europa League. So they are gonna be very akward on the draw this year.
Barcelona can hope to get easy group. It will be so bad if barcelona gonna get the same group like previous season. It's likely the weakness of barcelona when it was facing serie a club. I just saw from the result of barcelona in the previous season. That depends on what's gonna be the result from the draw. Im sure that if barcelona will get a tough group again.


Xavi its doing Barcelona play really good footbal, but in europe they are strugling to show that somehow. But i think with Gundogan its gonna be much more team than before, he was the key player they were missing.
Barcelona played so well in la liga but i think that we can't even compare it to the UCL. UCL where so many best clubs in europa competing to get european champion league which is the most prestigious trophy that can be won by european club.
Barcelona gonna face ac milan soon. this can be a good match to test how good barcelona when it faces acmilan. It can be used as a warm up for the club before the real competition.

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July 31, 2023, 03:50:49 PM
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Arsenal are going to be one of the new teams around here after a long break. I'm curious about their performance especially. Because they had a really amazing season in the English Premier League. Maybe they missed a big chance to become even the champions but they still had an incredible run. Now Arteta will be expected to have the same performance with the team in the Champions League as well. However this is technically a much more difficult task for him of course.

Because they are a really young team and the new team leader is going to be Odegaard after Xhaka's departure. I wonder how being a very young team will affect their consistency especially.

A fun fact is that Arsenal London, although they have been one of the European superpowers, never won the Europe League and never won the Champions League. They will bring some really needed new action into the competition. They have been quite weak for a few years and never really were a serious contender during that time, but now they are on a good way to find back their confidence and strength to also compete with the best teams in Europe. I am looking forward to the draw for the group stage. They can already face a top team early on as they finished 2nd in the league.

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July 31, 2023, 04:06:27 PM
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Arsenal are going to be one of the new teams around here after a long break. I'm curious about their performance especially. Because they had a really amazing season in the English Premier League. Maybe they missed a big chance to become even the champions but they still had an incredible run. Now Arteta will be expected to have the same performance with the team in the Champions League as well. However this is technically a much more difficult task for him of course.

Because they are a really young team and the new team leader is going to be Odegaard after Xhaka's departure. I wonder how being a very young team will affect their consistency especially.
I think several players who have won the Champions League and EPL can have an impact on building the mentality of Arteta squad. Jorginho, Kai Havertz and Gabriel Jesus will be examples to motivate Arsenal young squad in their pursuit of the championship trophy. even though Odegaard is lined up as club captain, to maintain concentration and consistency against various pressures these three names are suitable as references. I think including Arsenal in the list of favorites to win is also very appropriate at this time, because Arteta has the most expensive squad in the world at the moment.

It also doesn't make sense if, with the presence of players with very high prices, Asrenal only targets to finish in the top four of the standings. The Champions League is also of course their main priority next season.

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July 31, 2023, 04:16:39 PM
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Arsenal are going to be one of the new teams around here after a long break. I'm curious about their performance especially. Because they had a really amazing season in the English Premier League. Maybe they missed a big chance to become even the champions but they still had an incredible run. Now Arteta will be expected to have the same performance with the team in the Champions League as well. However this is technically a much more difficult task for him of course.

Because they are a really young team and the new team leader is going to be Odegaard after Xhaka's departure. I wonder how being a very young team will affect their consistency especially.

Arteta showed good game for his squad when facing a friendly match with Barcelona. they managed to win 5-3. I'm sure Arteta has no problems with his squad. but to compete in Europe's highest competition. indeed Arteta has to prepare everything. it will be different from the teams in the Premier League.
Arteta has shown his quality last season, and he will not lose anything to Arsenal this season. Arteta will look at how Arsenal shows a better quality of play in the Champions League. strong teams will definitely consider Arsenal.

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July 31, 2023, 05:20:13 PM
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Arsenal are going to be one of the new teams around here after a long break. I'm curious about their performance especially. Because they had a really amazing season in the English Premier League. Maybe they missed a big chance to become even the champions but they still had an incredible run. Now Arteta will be expected to have the same performance with the team in the Champions League as well. However this is technically a much more difficult task for him of course.

Because they are a really young team and the new team leader is going to be Odegaard after Xhaka's departure. I wonder how being a very young team will affect their consistency especially.

Arteta showed good game for his squad when facing a friendly match with Barcelona. they managed to win 5-3. I'm sure Arteta has no problems with his squad. but to compete in Europe's highest competition. indeed Arteta has to prepare everything. it will be different from the teams in the Premier League.
Arteta has shown his quality last season, and he will not lose anything to Arsenal this season. Arteta will look at how Arsenal shows a better quality of play in the Champions League. strong teams will definitely consider Arsenal.
They already have a strong foundation even though they may have young players, but with what they showed last season, then I can say they have done what they should do. I'm going to talk about mentality here, last season they were in the Europa League and many of us had them as big favorites to win, but unfortunately they got knocked out early. There is a difference, yes most likely it has to do with their mentality. Arteta is a former player, he should know very well what he should do if his team is having problems on the field, be it in terms of play or mentality. The Champions League will have a lot more pressure than what they have in the Europa League.

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I can say currently Manchester City is the only team we know they can have hope for the next Champions League title with Pep Guardiola because they are still in good form and they could stay stable and keep the main players they need for the next season. Also, Guardiola is improving the team and we can see even stronger Manchester City in the next Champions League season.
Pep guardiola is a experienced coach which we all know and he performed very well in last season, and everyone is hoping he will be able to maintain his good performance in the coming season, since their is no much player’s that left his club, and the main players that left, he is already looking for perfect replacement for them, so that the team will be stabilized. But we all just have to wait for the season to start and see how Manchester City is going to perform, lots of people have confidence in pep guardiola to maintain his good performance, but let’s wait for the season to start and let’s hope he won’t disappoint most of us that have confidence in him.

Pep Guardiola will never regret for his decision to release some players in this summer, because his plan always bring good result at the end of the tournament, which I know that the players that left will not affect the Manchester city performance in this season. I don't think the coach will disappoint his fans in this season because Erling Haaland and other strikers are still there to make things happen in this season like last season that made them to embraced UEFA champions league title and premier league title. Based on the way other teams are bringing in new players in this season showed that they will make this season tough for Manchester city, but I still have confidence that Pep Guardiola will still help the team to win the title.

He always has his mind and is several steps ahead of the plan so when it is potentially detrimental to the club he will try to add some players to cover but if he thinks it can still be done and can still play well even if some players leave he will still be very confident.
It was seen when he let some players leave because he realised that it would happen sooner or later, on the other hand he was ready with several options for patching the players who left with several new players.

He already knows what he has to do and he is sure that his plan will definitely work so with this his optimism about the league both domestic and Champions League is still very large.

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July 31, 2023, 07:47:34 PM
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Arsenal are going to be one of the new teams around here after a long break. I'm curious about their performance especially. Because they had a really amazing season in the English Premier League. Maybe they missed a big chance to become even the champions but they still had an incredible run. Now Arteta will be expected to have the same performance with the team in the Champions League as well. However this is technically a much more difficult task for him of course.

Because they are a really young team and the new team leader is going to be Odegaard after Xhaka's departure. I wonder how being a very young team will affect their consistency especially.

Arsenal still have several players who are quite well-established in experience. after all, they still have Jorginho although it looks like he will be rotated more than playing as a main starter. Partey, however, is still at Arsenal despite persistent rumors that he will leave in this summer's transfer window. I don't really follow the news, even though the midfielder is likely to leave the Emirates Stadium. even so, however this team has a squad that is competitive enough to compete in this competition. although dominated by young players, it is not an easy problem for any team to overthrow them. moreover, now Arteta is supported by several newcomers. at least, they deserve to prove how far Arteta can take Arsenal to advance in the Champions League competition.

As supporters, we don't expect much if they will win a trophy in the highest competition caste. let's be realistic, after all they are untested after such a long period of rest. for sure, the mentality of the team will be tested when they carry out match after match. i just hope. if they can do their best and most importantly it's worth for us to watch.

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It's very natural that after losing Lionel Messi, Barcelona seemed to have lost a leader on the field and that was clearly felt. Even other players such as Sergio Bosquest and Jordi Alba also could not restore the confidence of every player. I think barcelona should have prepared for that and there's no way they will continue to rely on just one player. On the other hand, they also have to develop more and with a new squad, all the legacy of their seniors must continue with the same mentality. Maybe it's not appropriate for a team like Barcelona to experience this continuously and I think they have to break this bad result in the Champions League this season.
Barcelona have gotten used to being without Messi even though the fans miss him. Barcelona lost a lot of quality from their game not only the Messi factor, but they don't have a lot of money to build a quality squad. So far Barcelona has not lost character, but it is true that they are not as good as before in the Champions League.

I believe that if Barcelona is in good financial condition, then Xavi will easily realize his dream of winning the Champions League title. There are many top players who are willing to play for Barcelona, ​​but because Barcelona's financial situation is bad, they will not take a place.
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July 31, 2023, 08:00:38 PM
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Pep Guardiola will never regret for his decision to release some players in this summer, because his plan always bring good result at the end of the tournament, which I know that the players that left will not affect the Manchester city performance in this season. I don't think the coach will disappoint his fans in this season because Erling Haaland and other strikers are still there to make things happen in this season like last season that made them to embraced UEFA champions league title and premier league title. Based on the way other teams are bringing in new players in this season showed that they will make this season tough for Manchester city, but I still have confidence that Pep Guardiola will still help the team to win the title.

Never say never, Real Madrid did the same thing last summer transfer window and what happen after, they played nonsense game without fruitful result, they flop in some good matches they should have converted to goals and points but it was as if they weren't there. Let me give you a scenario using how Manchester City were able to win the Champions league last season; they signed Haaland and De Bruyne prior to the last Champions League and they were so entangled together by performance and that improve scoring opportunities of Manchester City, Guardiola allowing some players to go because they are not attacker doesn't mean they wouldn't feel the pain, every player us the role they play in the squad, they will feel the heat at some point in future.

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It's very natural that after losing Lionel Messi, Barcelona seemed to have lost a leader on the field and that was clearly felt. Even other players such as Sergio Bosquest and Jordi Alba also could not restore the confidence of every player. I think barcelona should have prepared for that and there's no way they will continue to rely on just one player. On the other hand, they also have to develop more and with a new squad, all the legacy of their seniors must continue with the same mentality. Maybe it's not appropriate for a team like Barcelona to experience this continuously and I think they have to break this bad result in the Champions League this season.
Barcelona have gotten used to being without Messi even though the fans miss him. Barcelona lost a lot of quality from their game not only the Messi factor, but they don't have a lot of money to build a quality squad. So far Barcelona has not lost character, but it is true that they are not as good as before in the Champions League.

I believe that if Barcelona is in good financial condition, then Xavi will easily realize his dream of winning the Champions League title. There are many top players who are willing to play for Barcelona, ​​but because Barcelona's financial situation is bad, they will not take a place.
Mind you, Barcelona had Messi from when he was small, hence the reason why the team seemed to have been built around him. It is way easier to train a star player from small. He is more like family until he has gotten to the peak with them when he may not be able to perform as much, that's why he was let off too.

Right now, any start player they have will have to have been groomed from the youth team, do as to fit well within the managers plan for the season.

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Arsenal are going to be one of the new teams around here after a long break. I'm curious about their performance especially. Because they had a really amazing season in the English Premier League. Maybe they missed a big chance to become even the champions but they still had an incredible run. Now Arteta will be expected to have the same performance with the team in the Champions League as well. However this is technically a much more difficult task for him of course.

Because they are a really young team and the new team leader is going to be Odegaard after Xhaka's departure. I wonder how being a very young team will affect their consistency especially.


I think Arsenal will be a big revelation in the Champions League this season! last year they focused more on the Premier League and had an amazing championship, it's just a pity that they lost their lucidity in the last few games and unfortunately for them Manchester City managed not to give up. I think last season for Arsenal was a great starting point for the years to come, we'll see how they perform this season

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July 31, 2023, 08:07:30 PM
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Haaland and De Bruyne are the best in the world. There is no better striker than Haaland and no better midfielder than De Bruyne in my eyes. For this reason, they are the favorites of this cup for me as well. However, this is a tournament and tournaments have different atmospheres. Also, teams like Real Madrid, who have a lot of tournament habits, can always change the balance. That's why I see Manchester City as the first favorite in the Champions League, but I can't be sure because in this tournament the best in the world are competing and they are fighting to prove to everyone that they are the best.

The Champions League has long been regarded as the most competitive league in European football. They see a number of big clubs from various leagues coming together to compete for the champions league title. The atmosphere will undoubtedly alter, and they will always be a team eager to outperform the other team in order to win the competition. Manchester City will remain the favourites to win the league until we see how other clubs perform on the field in the upcoming Champions League game.

The squad that Barcelona has under the direction of Xavi has formed a strong chemistry between fellow players, I think Barcelona will soon become part of the favorite team to win the UCL if they are able to improve on the abilities that have been shown last season.

Xavi has demonstrated expertise and done a fantastic job for Barcelona, and he is currently working hard to enhance the team ahead of next season. His contributions to the squad cannot be overstated, especially given the team's current status as a worthy representative in the Champions League next season. If they will replicate their current form in the Champions League next season, they will be a serious contender for the title.

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July 31, 2023, 08:11:28 PM
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Mind you, Barcelona had Messi from when he was small, hence the reason why the team seemed to have been built around him. It is way easier to train a star player from small. He is more like family until he has gotten to the peak with them when he may not be able to perform as much, that's why he was let off too.

Right now, any start player they have will have to have been groomed from the youth team, do as to fit well within the managers plan for the season.
There's nothing wrong with your assumption, and so far Barcelona has still adopted the same way where they always have a few players from their own academy. They are poised to be the star players of the future, it is the next generation of Barcelona that will lead the team to glory. It's just that Barcelona's financial condition is very likely to make some players to leave especially if they expect a higher salary.

Gavi, Pedri, Ansu Fati, Balde, Araujo and several other players are the academy players I mean. So they really understand the condition of the team and they also seem willing to help the team to get their glory together again. The great thing about Barcelona's current players is that they are willing to lower their wages and continue to want to stay in the team for the long term.
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July 31, 2023, 08:22:30 PM
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There's nothing wrong with your assumption, and so far Barcelona has still adopted the same way where they always have a few players from their own academy. They are poised to be the star players of the future, it is the next generation of Barcelona that will lead the team to glory. It's just that Barcelona's financial condition is very likely to make some players to leave especially if they expect a higher salary.

Gavi, Pedri, Ansu Fati, Balde, Araujo and several other players are the academy players I mean. So they really understand the condition of the team and they also seem willing to help the team to get their glory together again. The great thing about Barcelona's current players is that they are willing to lower their wages and continue to want to stay in the team for the long term.
Now talking about Barcelona, ​​Indeed they often orbit players from the La Masia Academy where this has been done successively to see the potential for their players to be included in the main squad in every season. I'm sure Barcelona will again get a player who is believed to have good enough abilities for them next season. Fermin Lopez may be one of the players who performed well when Barcelona faced Real Madrid. But Barcelona also continues to monitor his progress in the next match. Because If Lopez manages to keep up his impressive qualities he will very likely quickly become xavi choice in the Laliga next season.

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July 31, 2023, 09:51:57 PM
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Pep Guardiola will never regret for his decision to release some players in this summer, because his plan always bring good result at the end of the tournament, which I know that the players that left will not affect the Manchester city performance in this season.

Seems Manchester city aren't very active in the transfer market and that only means Pep Guardiola is confident in the players he has at the club currently. He trusts them because he believes they cab deliver him the champions league and the premier league because if he didn't trust them then he would had been very active in the market looking for players to add to the team to make up for those that have left the club but he isn't doing that. Pep Guardiola is a genius so he can use any player he wants to win trophies and if he noticed he can't achieve anything with this current squad, the January transfer window is open for Manchester city to go into scouting.

The strength of Manchester city isn't Haaland as he has been ghosting in major tournament that the clubs and fans needed him to win them the competition but there's no doubt that he has been very important in his team getting to to finals. Haaland need to work on himself more because this season won't be like last time, defenders will be keeping eyes on him more but this can also work in his favor as attention get withdrawn from him in big games since he hasn't showed any capability of causing damage in big games.

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July 31, 2023, 10:23:33 PM
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Barcelona cant repeat the shamefull performance of last two years, being stuck on group phase and falling into Europa League. So they are gonna be very akward on the draw this year.

Xavi its doing Barcelona play really good footbal, but in europe they are strugling to show that somehow. But i think with Gundogan its gonna be much more team than before, he was the key player they were missing.

I think right now, barcelona should not be thinking about doing well in the Champions League. They should concentrate in one competition only. And I genuinely believe that they have a better chance to win the La Liga titles instead of winning the Champions League. So even though some people are saying that Barcelona should be able to do better in European competitions, I am going to say that it is very understandable why they are not doing well in the Champions League. It’s because they are not even trying to. Last season, they went for the La Liga title and they have successfully achieved that. Let’s see what is the approach from them in this season.
Understandably, Barca may be eyeing other competitions because almost any club wants other competitions to improve the club good name and even though Barca doesn't have the best players at the moment, there's nothing wrong with trying their hardest to get the title and not just get the title in LaLiga.
Many have doubted Barca performance this season to win the title in the champions league on the grounds that they don't have the best players and also the players that are currently remaining are not like before who have strength in every game and I think there is no need to be disappointed with what will happen to Barca even though it failed in the champions league but at least getting the top position in LaLiga is much better.
I really appreciate Xavi efforts this season even though there are only normal players left but trying to strengthen the club performance to continue to survive like its former glory and I hope that in the coming season Barca finances will recover soon and get top players again to regain their former glory

Xavi in Barcelona was very impressive and I couldn't expect to see Barcelona winning the La Liga title when he started working there because Xavi is not experienced as other coaches. However, in last season Barcelona couldn't play in the champions league but I think in the next season when they are racing with other teams like Real Madrid and Machester City, they can even have the chance to win the champions league title if we see the same performance from this team in the next season.

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July 31, 2023, 10:31:15 PM
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Xavi in Barcelona was very impressive and I couldn't expect to see Barcelona winning the La Liga title when he started working there because Xavi is not experienced as other coaches. However, in last season Barcelona couldn't play in the champions league but I think in the next season when they are racing with other teams like Real Madrid and Machester City, they can even have the chance to win the champions league title if we see the same performance from this team in the next season.


With the same performance they won't win the Champions League. Compare the 10 best games that Manchester City played in all competitions with the 10 best games that Barcelona played in all competitions last season. The difference in performance between the two teams will be massive. Barcelona played four very bad games in the group stage. The first game and then the second game in the group against Bayern was alright not bad. In La Liga they played well because of their defense, but they also benefitted from Real and Atletico Madrid to struggle so much.

It will be a new try for them in the Champions League and at first they should think about passing the group stage and nothing else. Talking about the Champions League win before the season even started isn't really making any sense.

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