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December 03, 2023, 09:36:45 PM
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Considering United just got a loss against Newcastle as well, it's quite possible that they will end up being fourth in the group, that seems like the likely result. Of course this depends on Bayern a bit as well, Bayern could just play the weak bench and not really care for the game, some young future potential players and all, which could definitely be a trouble for them if they are not careful, but most of the time it looks like we are going to end up with a good result one way or another.

I mean think about it, we are talking about a team that already guaranteed their first place, so who knows. Even with that case, I still feel like United may not end up getting a win, at best a draw, and I am sure that they are going to be have trouble, best case would be Europa I guess, second place is long gone if you calculate it, so it is not going to happen.
It is obvious to the blind how horrible Manchester United has been in the champions league this season. I mean their performance can be rated as fair in the English premier League but it is very poor in the champions league to the extent that I wished they gave another English club the opportunity to represent  Grin
Manchester United qualification has no much thing to do with Bayern Munich according to my own analysis. Manchester United can win Bayern Munich considering that Bayern has a whopping 13 points for themselves. Where the problem lies is, will Galatasary and Copenhagen agree to play draw?

Wow! It seems like Sevilla won't be able to qualify for Europa League knockout stage this time. Because to be able to do this they have to win against Lens. There is no other way to do it.

But can they? Honestly I'm not a believer here. Sevilla have been horrible throughout the group stage. They have got 0 win until now. It was almost like they were beating PSV home in their last game though. However that red card brought Sevilla's end very quickly by a big comeback from PSV. Lens aren't a competitor to be underestimated. They even beat Arsenal home and I wouldn't take them on against Sevilla for certain. But both teams to score could be a nice option to bet on.
What I have learnt about Sevilla is to write them out in any competition in this world but not to write them out in the Europa League competition. I have made the mistake of underrating them twice in the Europa League even when they were also not in form but they proved me wrong. Sevilla might be playing boring matches now, just allow them to mistakenly have a place in the Europa League, you will see a different Sevilla entirely.

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December 03, 2023, 10:30:20 PM
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It is very clear that Manchester United will not qualify for the next round while the remaining matches are one game behind and worse still have to face Bayern Munich and the opportunity to continue to third place to be able to compete in the European league also seems to be very difficult for Manchester United and miracles do not happen. will be able to help this club.

Manchester United have already lost the opportunity to qualify for the champions league next round which is the knockout stage of the competition. They had all the chances in their past matches but they didn’t utilize them well and had to still be on the bottom of their group stage table. Bayern Munich is a no go area for them and they can’t win them, and Galatasaray and Copenhagen match will not even get to end in a draw, so Manchester United are going to exit the competition this time without doubt.

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This bad performance created quite a lot of pressure on Erik Ten Hag which left him with endless bad things and as long as he was given a long time the coach could not give his best and I hope that there will be a new coach who can replace Erik Ten Hag's position.

It is just a matter of time but Eric Ten Hag will not remain in that managerial position till next year. If by the end of this season there’s nothing productive from him, he will be sacked by the Manchester United management and a new replacement will follow suit immediately. He has from now till that time to improve the team, hope he does something and make a change to the performance of the players in the field.

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December 03, 2023, 10:40:59 PM
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Wow! It seems like Sevilla won't be able to qualify for Europa League knockout stage this time. Because to be able to do this they have to win against Lens. There is no other way to do it.

But can they? Honestly I'm not a believer here. Sevilla have been horrible throughout the group stage. They have got 0 win until now. It was almost like they were beating PSV home in their last game though. However that red card brought Sevilla's end very quickly by a big comeback from PSV. Lens aren't a competitor to be underestimated. They even beat Arsenal home and I wouldn't take them on against Sevilla for certain. But both teams to score could be a nice option to bet on.
What I have learnt about Sevilla is to write them out in any competition in this world but not to write them out in the Europa League competition. I have made the mistake of underrating them twice in the Europa League even when they were also not in form but they proved me wrong. Sevilla might be playing boring matches now, just allow them to mistakenly have a place in the Europa League, you will see a different Sevilla entirely.

Playing in the Europa League is not the same as the Champions League at all and they should understand it in Sevilla, Sevilla is known for the performance they have in the Europa League but this team can't have a good performance in the Europa League, that's maybe a good reason to say Sevilla should not even think about the Champions League and the are better to focus on La Liga games to get in the better situation there.

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December 03, 2023, 11:21:00 PM
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Bayern Munich have sealed a spot in next round but they won't settle for any relenting actions, rather they will look forward for a win. Manchester United will not be able to handle Bayern Munich in their last tier UEFA game in group stage. Erik Ten Hag is incompetent to lead the Red Devils this season, because his weaknesses are already there and they will suffered enough shocking defeats against elite and average clubs this season, losing in major tournaments and also recording defeats in English Premier League is discouraging results for the club.

Eric Ten Hag's performance as team manager has been underwhelming for some time. Manchester United continues to lose games in both the domestic league and the European competition in which they compete. If competency was the issue, Eric Ten Hag failed miserably and should be replaced as soon as possible.  Manchester United will exit the Champions League after finishing last in their group, which is a huge disappointment given the teams in their group who did not allow them to qualify for the Champions League knockout stage.

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December 03, 2023, 11:26:35 PM
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Even though the situation is very difficult, Manchester United still has a chance to qualify for the round of 16. The only way for Manchester United to qualify for the last 16 is to win against Bayer Munchen and hope that the match between Copenhagen vs Galatasaray ends in a draw. Even though it's tough, in football anything can happen.
I agree with you. Although the situation is getting difficult for Man United but the chance isn't over yet. Winning against Bayern Munich isn't impossible if Bayern Munich won't play with their main players and with serious efforts. Bayern Munich possibly use their second tier players because they already qualified for the next round. I think Bayern Munich will prefer to let their main players to take a rest. Meanwhile for the match Copenhagen vs Galatasaray, it is difficult to predict the result of the match. But it is surely not impossible to end with a draw. If both teams play all out, a draw can be the reasonable result.


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December 03, 2023, 11:30:08 PM
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Bayern Munich have sealed a spot in next round but they won't settle for any relenting actions, rather they will look forward for a win. Manchester United will not be able to handle Bayern Munich in their last tier UEFA game in group stage. Erik Ten Hag is incompetent to lead the Red Devils this season, because his weaknesses are already there and they will suffered enough shocking defeats against elite and average clubs this season, losing in major tournaments and also recording defeats in English Premier League is discouraging results for the club.

Eric Ten Hag's performance as team manager has been underwhelming for some time. Manchester United continues to lose games in both the domestic league and the European competition in which they compete. If competency was the issue, Eric Ten Hag failed miserably and should be replaced as soon as possible.  Manchester United will exit the Champions League after finishing last in their group, which is a huge disappointment given the teams in their group who did not allow them to qualify for the Champions League knockout stage.
At this group stage, Manchester united have underperformed greatly and this will affect their overall performance in the coming round of this season, haven't finished group stage at below top 5 clubs, this is so saddened to the point that even if the Manchester United management decides to get in some new energetic players to help push the club to it desired position,  it won't achieve much still, this is because the club need a total overhaul of the management and the team, haven't to reorganized the clubs and getting the best hand on the desk to change the phase of the club in the coming seasons.
If not, if the club continues this way, it may likely end relegation in the next couple of years from now, and if that is the case, it will become practically impossible for Manchester United to test the Champions leagues trophy any time in this decade.

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December 04, 2023, 04:42:35 AM
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I think it's pointless to give Manchester United any confidence of coming out successfully from the group stage to the next stage, even Europa is not guarantee right now in this stage but I know that it's not a good thing to give up even when there is no hope. If Manchester United comes out of this creepy hole and make a good way to the Champions League, trust me they will go far after that because they will be the most luckiest team to come far after all the gimmick that is surrounding them.

Erik Ten need to do better and scold players when necessary, he is always defending Onana but I get his reason, he doesn't want to be judge for making bad decisions about the player he thinks was better than David De Gea but I still prefer De Gea over any goalkeeper that Manchester United and Ten Hag will bring to that team.
It is too much to give confidence to Manchester United in conditions like this and qualifying for the next round depends on the result of the Copenhagen vs Galatasaray match and Manchester United having to win the match against Bayern Munich is something that is impossible. It will be quite difficult for Manchester United to qualify for the next round with a scenario like this and I am very pessimistic that Erik Ten Hak will be able to do it. There are even rumors circulating that a number of players are starting to have problems with the coach, especially because the players are difficult to manage and are often disobedient.

We have to admit that the draw that Manchester United got in the Champions League was because of Onana's blunder and that happened many times in different matches. If Erik Ten Hak doesn't put pressure on the main goalkeeper then don't expect Manchester United to win and be successful. This is different from De Gea last season because he didn't make many mistakes and it was purely because of other weaknesses in the defense and midfield areas.

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December 04, 2023, 06:24:55 AM
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Playing in the Europa League is not the same as the Champions League at all and they should understand it in Sevilla, Sevilla is known for the performance they have in the Europa League but this team can't have a good performance in the Europa League, that's maybe a good reason to say Sevilla should not even think about the Champions League and the are better to focus on La Liga games to get in the better situation there.

Sevilla certainly understands that, even targeting getting third place in group B doesn't seem like it anymore because Lens only need to draw to be able to play in the European league play offs, but it looks like Sevilla will still find it difficult to be the better team in Laliga even though they are no longer playing. in European competition, because they have shown a decline since last season, only winning the European League covered their weaknesses last season, but this season they are still a bad team and it is difficult to improve.

I agree with you. Although the situation is getting difficult for Man United but the chance isn't over yet. Winning against Bayern Munich isn't impossible if Bayern Munich won't play with their main players and with serious efforts. Bayern Munich possibly use their second tier players because they already qualified for the next round. I think Bayern Munich will prefer to let their main players to take a rest. Meanwhile for the match Copenhagen vs Galatasaray, it is difficult to predict the result of the match. But it is surely not impossible to end with a draw. If both teams play all out, a draw can be the reasonable result.
Yes, it's not over for Manchester United, but what is the percentage for Manchester United to beat Bayern Munich to open up a chance of qualifying? I think it's very small even though they can win against Bayern Munich but their fate will still be determined by the result of the Copenhagen vs Galatasaray match, so Manchester United fans have to be realistic and accept if they are eliminated and that would be good so they can focus more on the English Premier League.

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December 04, 2023, 07:03:39 AM
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Even though the situation is very difficult, Manchester United still has a chance to qualify for the round of 16. The only way for Manchester United to qualify for the last 16 is to win against Bayer Munchen and hope that the match between Copenhagen vs Galatasaray ends in a draw. Even though it's tough, in football anything can happen.
I agree with you. Although the situation is getting difficult for Man United but the chance isn't over yet. Winning against Bayern Munich isn't impossible if Bayern Munich won't play with their main players and with serious efforts. Bayern Munich possibly use their second tier players because they already qualified for the next round. I think Bayern Munich will prefer to let their main players to take a rest. Meanwhile for the match Copenhagen vs Galatasaray, it is difficult to predict the result of the match. But it is surely not impossible to end with a draw. If both teams play all out, a draw can be the reasonable result.

Bayern Munich will likely form their second tier squad. Even so, Manchester United's chances of winning are  slim, even with Bayern Munich's second-tier squad. Their defense is quite weak. On the other hand, Bayern  Munich plays attacking strategy. Manchester  United's defense is unlikely to  improve in front of Bayern Munich's attack. I don't think United will win this match. But  since the match is not important  for Bayern Munich. So the match is likely to be a draw. Bayern Munich drew goalless against Copenhagen.

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December 04, 2023, 07:18:36 AM
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It is very clear that Manchester United will not qualify for the next round while the remaining matches are one game behind and worse still have to face Bayern Munich and the opportunity to continue to third place to be able to compete in the European league also seems to be very difficult for Manchester United and miracles do not happen. will be able to help this club.
This bad performance created quite a lot of pressure on Erik Ten Hag which left him with endless bad things and as long as he was given a long time the coach could not give his best and I hope that there will be a new coach who can replace Erik Ten Hag's position.

I think it's pointless to give Manchester United any confidence of coming out successfully from the group stage to the next stage, even Europa is not guarantee right now in this stage but I know that it's not a good thing to give up even when there is no hope. If Manchester United comes out of this creepy hole and make a good way to the Champions League, trust me they will go far after that because they will be the most luckiest team to come far after all the gimmick that is surrounding them.

Erik Ten need to do better and scold players when necessary, he is always defending Onana but I get his reason, he doesn't want to be judge for making bad decisions about the player he thinks was better than David De Gea but I still prefer De Gea over any goalkeeper that Manchester United and Ten Hag will bring to that team.

Erik Ten Hag should not mix business up with feelings, Some certain players are not working hard and will lead to him being sacked. Do you also feel like he's gradually losing control of the dressing room? There are player's that needs to leave the club honestly, they have played from the time of Jose Mourinho till date they all need to be part of the so called rebuild shit.

For the Champions League, they shouldn't even go.for the Europa League Competition, instead of that they should be knockout completely. Manchester United can only qualify with luck and God Grace!!

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December 04, 2023, 07:27:42 AM
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Wow! It seems like Sevilla won't be able to qualify for Europa League knockout stage this time. Because to be able to do this they have to win against Lens. There is no other way to do it.

But can they? Honestly I'm not a believer here. Sevilla have been horrible throughout the group stage. They have got 0 win until now. It was almost like they were beating PSV home in their last game though. However that red card brought Sevilla's end very quickly by a big comeback from PSV. Lens aren't a competitor to be underestimated. They even beat Arsenal home and I wouldn't take them on against Sevilla for certain. But both teams to score could be a nice option to bet on.

0 chance for sevilla to be qualified. Im not expecting a lot from this guy. In fact, sevilla is also having the last chance to get into the europa league as long as it will be able to beat lens. This is another hard task that must be done by 5 times europa league winner.
Will sevilla back to the europa league? maybe yes, maybe no. We will know the answer later. Sevilla needs also to put its focus into the la liga caused by it has horrible performance.

I don't know what things that made sevilla played so badly in any competitions. Is there something wrong with the club? Time will tell us.
The new coach seems unable to bring up the performance sevilla again. It seems like the gamble to replace mendilibar was a flop. Sevilla could give mendilibar more time before try to sack him.
So, sevilla used the same trick when it was sacking the coach before mendilibar. Sevilal

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December 04, 2023, 07:42:43 AM
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Wow! It seems like Sevilla won't be able to qualify for Europa League knockout stage this time. Because to be able to do this they have to win against Lens. There is no other way to do it.

But can they? Honestly I'm not a believer here. Sevilla have been horrible throughout the group stage. They have got 0 win until now. It was almost like they were beating PSV home in their last game though. However that red card brought Sevilla's end very quickly by a big comeback from PSV. Lens aren't a competitor to be underestimated. They even beat Arsenal home and I wouldn't take them on against Sevilla for certain. But both teams to score could be a nice option to bet on.
Yes there is no other choice but they must win this match if they want to be in the Europa League play offs. But I'd say they're a bit unlucky here, as by the time they get to victory they'll be facing a team that's in similar trouble, although overall Lens are better than Sevilla. But Lens also still have a chance to qualify for the last 16, with a note that they must win and PSV must lose badly to Arsenal. While PSV only needs a draw to qualify for the round of 16.

I agree with you. Although the situation is getting difficult for Man United but the chance isn't over yet. Winning against Bayern Munich isn't impossible if Bayern Munich won't play with their main players and with serious efforts. Bayern Munich possibly use their second tier players because they already qualified for the next round. I think Bayern Munich will prefer to let their main players to take a rest. Meanwhile for the match Copenhagen vs Galatasaray, it is difficult to predict the result of the match. But it is surely not impossible to end with a draw. If both teams play all out, a draw can be the reasonable result.

Bayern Munich will likely form their second tier squad. Even so, Manchester United's chances of winning are  slim, even with Bayern Munich's second-tier squad. Their defense is quite weak. On the other hand, Bayern  Munich plays attacking strategy. Manchester  United's defense is unlikely to  improve in front of Bayern Munich's attack. I don't think United will win this match. But  since the match is not important  for Bayern Munich. So the match is likely to be a draw. Bayern Munich drew goalless against Copenhagen.
That focus must be done by Manchester United at this time, they do not need to see the results of the Galatasaray vs Copenhagen match, what they have to do is how they win this match. Although their fate is in the hands of the results of the 2 teams, but for me it will depend on their luck, whether they will have that much luck to see Galatasaray vs Copenhagen draw or not.
I don't know for sure whether Bayern Munich want to tackle Manchster United or not, because if you look at their previous results, they are not too ambitious to win, but I don't know in this match.

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December 04, 2023, 07:57:45 AM
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Yes, it's not over for Manchester United, but what is the percentage for Manchester United to beat Bayern Munich to open up a chance of qualifying? I think it's very small even though they can win against Bayern Munich but their fate will still be determined by the result of the Copenhagen vs Galatasaray match, so Manchester United fans have to be realistic and accept if they are eliminated and that would be good so they can focus more on the English Premier League.
Manchester United doesn't stand a chance against Bayern Munich because the way they have been playing lately is nothing compared to Bayern Munich performance because even considering there last meeting, Bayern Munich was able to beat them so there is every possibility that Bayern Munich is still going to beat them again on there next meeting so I don't think Manchester United stands a chance of qualifying from there group although if it was clubs like Galatasaray or Copenhagen I would have said there is a possibility of qualifying, but to win Bayern Munich I don't think is possible for them.

However for the second I'm seeing Copenhagen qualifying because they have a high chance of wining Galatasaray and also considering were they are on there group table.

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December 04, 2023, 08:38:26 AM
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Yes, it's not over for Manchester United, but what is the percentage for Manchester United to beat Bayern Munich to open up a chance of qualifying? I think it's very small even though they can win against Bayern Munich but their fate will still be determined by the result of the Copenhagen vs Galatasaray match, so Manchester United fans have to be realistic and accept if they are eliminated and that would be good so they can focus more on the English Premier League.
Manchester United doesn't stand a chance against Bayern Munich because the way they have been playing lately is nothing compared to Bayern Munich performance because even considering there last meeting, Bayern Munich was able to beat them so there is every possibility that Bayern Munich is still going to beat them again on there next meeting so I don't think Manchester United stands a chance of qualifying from there group although if it was clubs like Galatasaray or Copenhagen I would have said there is a possibility of qualifying, but to win Bayern Munich I don't think is possible for them.

However for the second I'm seeing Copenhagen qualifying because they have a high chance of wining Galatasaray and also considering were they are on there group table.

I know there will be no more opportunities to get a ticket to continue for MU. But Ten Hag teachers and students need to be determined to win, even if they are eliminated. Because, after all, it is an honorable victory for their fans. With this victory, Ten Hag may continue to retain his coaching position. They have played exceptionally poorly this season. There is no more reason for them to justify their mistakes. A victory against the mighty Bayern would replace their explanation.

I don't know if Marcus Rashford will play in this match. Rashford was sent off in Man United's recent defeat to Copenhagen for fouling Elias Jerert. Hopefully, he will be present in this match because he is MU's central striker.

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December 04, 2023, 08:40:27 AM
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It is very clear that Manchester United will not qualify for the next round while the remaining matches are one game behind and worse still have to face Bayern Munich and the opportunity to continue to third place to be able to compete in the European league also seems to be very difficult for Manchester United and miracles do not happen. will be able to help this club.
This bad performance created quite a lot of pressure on Erik Ten Hag which left him with endless bad things and as long as he was given a long time the coach could not give his best and I hope that there will be a new coach who can replace Erik Ten Hag's position.
Bayern Munich have sealed a spot in next round but they won't settle for any relenting actions, rather they will look forward for a win. Manchester United will not be able to handle Bayern Munich in their last tier UEFA game in group stage. Erik Ten Hag is incompetent to lead the Red Devils this season, because his weaknesses are already there and they will suffered enough shocking defeats against elite and average clubs this season, losing in major tournaments and also recording defeats in English Premier League is discouraging results for the club.

Bayern Munich's early performance isn't surprising. They had it easy in their group, which inflated their achievement. They're through to the next round, but the true challenge begins now. Arsenal and Real Madrid won't have it easy. Bayern may struggle to sustain form against these harder opponents. Dominating a weaker group is different from facing the heavyweights. Let's discuss Manchester United. They've disappointed, and Ten Hag's tactics aren't working. It's heartbreaking to see a legendary club failing. They need management and tactics changes, not simply new players. If nothing changes soon, United's top-tier future is bleak.

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December 04, 2023, 09:06:51 AM
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Yes, it's not over for Manchester United, but what is the percentage for Manchester United to beat Bayern Munich to open up a chance of qualifying? I think it's very small even though they can win against Bayern Munich but their fate will still be determined by the result of the Copenhagen vs Galatasaray match, so Manchester United fans have to be realistic and accept if they are eliminated and that would be good so they can focus more on the English Premier League.
I agree with you, if Manchester united eventually win Bayern probably because bayern use theirs rotational payers knowing how risk free this match is to them and it turns in favour of Manchester united, they will still hope Copenhagen draw against Galatasaray.

If either of both Galatasaray or Copenhagen wins then Manchester united have no chance because they will be ahead of Manchester, the only option will be Manchester going to the Europa which I don't think they will still have a chance at with their current form because at the Europa they will be meeting the links of Leverkusen and Liverpool, so basically they should focus on the premier league and making sure to qualify for for UCL next season.

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December 04, 2023, 09:12:27 AM
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I agree with you. Although the situation is getting difficult for Man United but the chance isn't over yet. Winning against Bayern Munich isn't impossible if Bayern Munich won't play with their main players and with serious efforts. Bayern Munich possibly use their second tier players because they already qualified for the next round. I think Bayern Munich will prefer to let their main players to take a rest. Meanwhile for the match Copenhagen vs Galatasaray, it is difficult to predict the result of the match. But it is surely not impossible to end with a draw. If both teams play all out, a draw can be the reasonable result.
Bayern Munich will likely form their second tier squad. Even so, Manchester United's chances of winning are  slim, even with Bayern Munich's second-tier squad. Their defense is quite weak. On the other hand, Bayern  Munich plays attacking strategy. Manchester  United's defense is unlikely to  improve in front of Bayern Munich's attack. I don't think United will win this match. But  since the match is not important  for Bayern Munich. So the match is likely to be a draw. Bayern Munich drew goalless against Copenhagen.
That focus must be done by Manchester United at this time, they do not need to see the results of the Galatasaray vs Copenhagen match, what they have to do is how they win this match. Although their fate is in the hands of the results of the 2 teams, but for me it will depend on their luck, whether they will have that much luck to see Galatasaray vs Copenhagen draw or not.
I don't know for sure whether Bayern Munich want to tackle Manchster United or not, because if you look at their previous results, they are not too ambitious to win, but I don't know in this match.

Manchester United  still have a chance  to qualify for the  next round. But  for this they must win. They need to get 3 points against Bayern Munich. At the same time, Manchester United can  qualify for the round of 16 only if the match between Galatasaray and Copenhagen is a draw.

Manchester United have not won a single match in their last 5  meetings against Bayern Munich. They have lost all 4 matches and United managed to draw only one match. That is why the probability of Manchester United winning against Bayern Munich is very low, even though the match is not important for Munich. Even though Munich's second-tier squad plays in this match, I consider the Munich team to be the favourites.

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December 04, 2023, 09:16:50 AM
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I know there will be no more opportunities to get a ticket to continue for MU. But Ten Hag teachers and students need to be determined to win, even if they are eliminated. Because, after all, it is an honorable victory for their fans. With this victory, Ten Hag may continue to retain his coaching position. They have played exceptionally poorly this season. There is no more reason for them to justify their mistakes. A victory against the mighty Bayern would replace their explanation.

I don't know if Marcus Rashford will play in this match. Rashford was sent off in Man United's recent defeat to Copenhagen for fouling Elias Jerert. Hopefully, he will be present in this match because he is MU's central striker.
For fans, even though Manchester United will win over Bayern Munchen at Old Trafford, this victory can be interpreted as a form of revenge, from this context they will definitely be happy. However, it won't make reality any better if Copenhagen versus Galatasaray beat each other and don't draw. To be honest, in simple terms, if United failed to qualify for the round of 16, fans would be very disappointed. Apart from that, for Ten Hag there may be a performance evaluation from club officials in the future, currently I am not sure he can last much longer in the capacity of head coach at Old Trafford.

Personally, I hope that Rashford will be kept by Ten Hag, I saw that his game in the match versus Newcastle yesterday in the EPL was very far from standard. His movements seemed invisible, and many even criticized Ten Hag policy of taking his place too late in the match. Ten Hag must determine his starting XI wisely, if he doesn't want to be beaten a second time by Bayern.

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December 04, 2023, 10:26:08 AM
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I know there will be no more opportunities to get a ticket to continue for MU. But Ten Hag teachers and students need to be determined to win, even if they are eliminated. Because, after all, it is an honorable victory for their fans. With this victory, Ten Hag may continue to retain his coaching position. They have played exceptionally poorly this season. There is no more reason for them to justify their mistakes. A victory against the mighty Bayern would replace their explanation.

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If Bayern Munich does not field all the main players or only uses reserve players then it is very likely that Manchester United still has chance to win or have draw, but if Tuchel uses their full strength then Manchester United will experience big defeat.
I know there are surprises in football and surprises come due to luck such as opponents making various mistakes but it seems like luck or surprises will never come in this match.
Tan Hag and Manchester United will go home, they will not get anything from the UCL and this is Ten Hag's failure in bringing Manchester United to compete far enough in the UCL.
The only way is to get top ranking of Premier League to be able to have ticket in the UCL next season and avenge this season failure.

Bayern Munich's early performance isn't surprising. They had it easy in their group, which inflated their achievement. They're through to the next round, but the true challenge begins now. Arsenal and Real Madrid won't have it easy. Bayern may struggle to sustain form against these harder opponents. Dominating a weaker group is different from facing the heavyweights. Let's discuss Manchester United. They've disappointed, and Ten Hag's tactics aren't working. It's heartbreaking to see a legendary club failing. They need management and tactics changes, not simply new players. If nothing changes soon, United's top-tier future is bleak.
Bayern Munich have achieved top ranking without difficult competition during the group phase and after this they competed in the round of 16 where they were filled with big and strong team.
It is also true that the obstacles and pressure faced by Bayern Munich are just about to begin, they will meet much stronger team so Tuchel really has tougher task.
If Bayern can compete well in the round 16 and make it in the round 8 then that is an opportunity for them to really fight and of course that round will be the most terrifying round because all the remaining team will beat each other.

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December 04, 2023, 10:42:36 AM
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I don't even dare to agree with what you say, because in football anything can happen. If Copenhagen is able to hold Bayern to a draw at the Allianz Arena, why not Manchester United. Despite Manchester United's poor performance, football is unique and interesting. Not infrequently, the results are unpredictable. Moreover, if Bayern let United win the next meeting. Such things can happen and Galatasaray vs Copenhagen ends in a draw. which means, United has 7 points while the other two teams both have 6 points. This is just another scenario that could possibly happen.

Even though I am well aware, United's chances of qualifying for the next round are very slim. without exception, they will also find it difficult to get tickets to the Europa League playoffs. but as I said above, we won't know until the game starts or ends. Does United have a chance, yeah, even though it's very slim.
Just imagine, if we could confirm the results of matches that have not yet been presented, football would no longer be exciting and interesting. and this is the interesting part, we have to wait first and see if in the end Erik Ten Hag fails to bring the squad under his care. whether Galatasaray accompanying Bayern Munich, or Copenhagen. To be sure, everything is still a mystery. Even though we can predict it through statistics and data, football is not just a matter of statistics and data. because after all, the result is determined when the match is played, there are no other words other than let's just wait.

Yes Football is full of surprises and it’s not over till it’s finally over, but for Manchester United you can easily predict because the team isn’t serious, the fighting spirit of the badge is not there in this set of players as you see them struugle and falter to a 2-0 lead, the worst part of it is that they ain't trying to improve but keep playing boring football every week, I don't think United would survive they're next match cause I believe they'll be thrashed by Bayern.

 But yes, they could pull some surprises at Old Trafford and go through to the 16 or Europa League but it’s going to be a tough one for the team and it’ll require quite a lot from the whole team.
Copenhagen got a draw against Bayern because of determination, Manchester United and Erik Teen Haag can take a cue from them and know how to go about Bayern and we could see some huge surprises
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