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December 07, 2023, 09:09:18 PM
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This could be the primary factor why Manchester United still has a tiny chance to progress to the next round although they don't deserve it to be honest. The win against Chelsea now gave them some room to calm down and start focusing on their next games, but it would be insane if they do beat Bayern Munich and Copenhagen and Galatasaray finish their game with a draw and the chaotic club Manchester United ends up playing in the round of 16 in the Champions League. I think it would be ridiculous if we look at all the performances the team has shown this season.
Yeah I agree with you that Manchester United doesn't deserve the wining because they actually don't have what it takes to be there perhaps even if the eventually wins Bayern Munich there chances of wining any team on the next round is very small because the next round is really going to be tougher compare to the teams they have meet earlier, so that's why I said the possibility of Manchester United to be able to perform on the next round may not be certain because is going to be very competitive.

Well Copenhagen and Galatasaray match will determine the faith of Manchester United.

Right but this is one of those examples when I genuinely hope that teams like Galatasaray or Copenhagen get their chance in the next round. For these teams a progression to the next round is a historical success. For Copenhagen more of course than for Galatasaray, but still it would not be good to see Manchester United get lucky with some last lucky move because Copenhagen and Galatasaray end the game with a draw and Manchester United wins against a second team from Bayern Munich. If they played against Bayern Munich in game 3 and game 4, we wouldn't be talking about Manchester United anymore because they would already be out.

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December 07, 2023, 09:13:57 PM
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Copenhagen also played well in their last match, which ended in a draw with Bayern Munich. I also have a little confidence in this club after watching them play their last game against Bayern Munich. It was clear that Copenhagen would give their all in this match in order to qualify for the round of 16 alongside Bayern Munich. They also have the advantage of playing at home; if they play well, they can win this match; if they don't, Galatasaray will mercilessly beat them and force them to give up their chances of qualifying for the round of 16. This will be a difficult match for these two teams, so a prediction on how they will fare cannot be ascertained now.

The thing that scares me the most is that they played well against Bayern in the previous match. The quality of the team is not very good, but they are really fighting to do something, and so is Galatasaray. So I'm sure we will watch a very competitive match. Both teams will be on the field to win and get out of the group. Of course, having an audience advantage is also very important Smiley


It will definitely be a game to watch, both teams will play for the next round and the winner will advance to the next round.
I think Galatasaray has the advantage in terms of squad quality and I think we will win and I hope we will.

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December 07, 2023, 09:16:28 PM
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It can be done if Manchester United win against Bayern and Copenhagen draw against Galatasaray indirectly they will definitely qualify because they are 1 point ahead of Copenhagen and Galatasaray but if they win but one of Copenhagen and Galatasaray wins then they will only be in the Europa League but another possibility if Manchester United lose or draw then they will only be at the bottom of the standings without being able to say much for the Champions League this season.

I personally wouldn't expect too much actually but of course Manchester United winning is very good just that Bayern don't want to lose their unbeaten record in the group phase.
Yes, opportunities will always be there in football, I look a bit pessimistic about Manchester United, their chances are very small to qualify for the next phase, because Copenhagen and Galatasaray will go all out in the deciding match for Group A, of course Copenhagen in this match has the advantage It's very big to win the match later, because they are playing at their own headquarters. Mentally, of course Galatasaray will be under pressure from the boisterous support of the crowd, of course the two coaches already know how each team plays, it is the fitness and cohesiveness of each player that can Pumping this all up.
Galatasaray's performance in the last matches was very good. They may seem to be behind in the rankings now, but they played very well even in the matches they lost and were a little unlucky. So I think they have a good chance of winning in the next match.
Of course, it will be a very difficult match and a very difficult away game, but if Galatasaray wins this match, it will be 2nd in the group. That's why I think they will come to the match very prepared, they will not make the simple mistakes they made in other matches

Galatasaray's good performance must be acknowledged, they are the strongest team this season in the Turkish Super League. Galatasaray have only conceded 8 goals in their last 14 matches in the Turkish Super League, so Copenhagen will certainly have a hard time beating them in their next match. This will also hurt Manchester United's chances of qualifying for the last 16, meaning Galatasaray have a better chance of securing that ticket alongside Bayern Munich.

Manchester United could win over Bayern Munich, but I think they will only fight for the Europa League. The chances of getting to the round of 16 are very low considering Galatasaray's performance, but no one knows for sure although analytically I believe Galatasaray will get there.

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December 07, 2023, 09:18:30 PM
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Galatasaray's performance in the last matches was very good. They may seem to be behind in the rankings now, but they played very well even in the matches they lost and were a little unlucky. So I think they have a good chance of winning in the next match.
Of course, it will be a very difficult match and a very difficult away game, but if Galatasaray wins this match, it will be 2nd in the group. That's why I think they will come to the match very prepared, they will not make the simple mistakes they made in other matches

Galatasaray's performance is quite good in league competitions, although currently their position has dropped to 2nd place in the Domestic League standings. even though in fact, they have the same 31 points as Fenerbache. The effects of the loss against Bayern Munich seemed to have an impact afterwards and Galatasaray suffered their first defeat in their domestic league.
In the Champions League, their performance was not very good even though in their 5 matches they always put up resistance against the teams they faced. On the sixth matchday, what is certain is that Okan Buruk will prepare his squad to perform at its best to defeat Copenhagen. so, does Galatasaray have a chance for that. the answer is, yes they have a chance to overthrow Copenhagen.

Meanwhile, Copenhagen, in their last 5 matches in all competitions, they have not won a single match. three times with defeats, and two draws. but because the sixth matchday match in the Champions League will be held at Parken, their own home. which means, they will go all out to win the match, especially playing in front of their own supporters. In the first leg, Copenhagen was able to take the lead with a score of 0-2. Luckily, Galatasaray was able to equalize because one of Copenhagen's players was given a red card. In this meeting, both teams will both appear to win the match. So, in this match both teams have equal chances. although if we refer to temporary odds, Galatasaray is slightly superior. So, to be sure, let's just wait for the match to be played on December 13.

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December 07, 2023, 09:19:21 PM
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Bookmakers rate United's odds at 1 in 8. That's about a 12% chance of United qualifying. Maybe Bayern will not be in optimal shape because they have an away game against Eitracht Frankfurt the day after tomorrow, but I don’t think that will have a serious impact in the game against United. And I think that United should hope that Bayern beat Eintracht without any problems, because if they lose points they will be extra motivated (the game with Copenhagen where they could not beat Eintracht at home also probably left its mark).

I am not sure if Bayern Munich will play to win this match. If Bayern Munich is playing to win then I would say winning against Manchester United is not a tough task for Bayern Munich. I watched Bayern Munich's match against Copenhagen. There was no will to win in Bayern Munich's players. Bayern Munich players performed very badly. And if Munich's players perform similarly against Manchester United, then Munich has the possibility of losing points against Manchester United as well.

I didn't see the game against Copenhagen, but I read Müller's post-match interview and he was very angry that Bayern couldn't win. If you doubt that Bayern will play to win, remember last season - Bayern qualified after the 4th round (4 wins), but in the remaining games that were no longer important for it, it beat Inter 2-0 and Barcelona 3-0. And it was that crisis Bayern without a good striker.

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December 07, 2023, 09:21:43 PM
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So far the weakest team in this group is Manchester United. I also think Galatasaray have a better chance to stay in second place. I don't think Copenhagen or Manchester United can do it. Their performances have been worse than Galatasaray's.
But in the final match for this group stage, Copenhagen or Manchester United could make a brilliant enough performance to win, although I also believe that Galatasaray will try to be better than before in the final match in this group stage. Apart from that, I'm also quite curious about who will qualify for the European League play-off round apart from those who will qualify for the last 16 of the Champions League this time because the points for these three teams are quite close and any mistake could make them worse off.

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December 07, 2023, 09:23:23 PM
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This is what makes this game between Copenhagen and Galatasaray so thrilling. If they are sitting on a draw there is no way to ignore the game between Manchester United and Bayern Munich. I think there will be a lot of information going back and forth between the stadiums and also the coaches and the players. But who knows maybe one comes out as the clear winner tomorrow and takes a comfortable lead at some time during the game. On the one hand I expect a game that is all about stable defenses, but on the other hand I think as soon as we get to see one goal the other team will open up and go for it.

Both games are very important, they will be make-or-break games for both teams in the Europa League.
It doesn't mean anything for B.Munich but I think they will play with a full squad.
M.United definitely need to win if they want to continue.

In this particular case I doubt that Thomas Tuchel will decide to let his best eleven players play most of the game. He is frequently complaining about how thin his squad is and that injuries and physical stress are a major risk to their success and that he has already problems to retain control over the physical exhaustion of each player. Since he is saying all these things repeatedly, I expect him to let other players with less practice play. I can imagine that he would even leave Harry Kane on the bench. And I could understand it, maybe I would do the same if I was him.  

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December 07, 2023, 09:30:02 PM
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Copenhagen also played well in their last match, which ended in a draw with Bayern Munich. I also have a little confidence in this club after watching them play their last game against Bayern Munich. It was clear that Copenhagen would give their all in this match in order to qualify for the round of 16 alongside Bayern Munich. They also have the advantage of playing at home; if they play well, they can win this match; if they don't, Galatasaray will mercilessly beat them and force them to give up their chances of qualifying for the round of 16. This will be a difficult match for these two teams, so a prediction on how they will fare cannot be ascertained now.

The thing that scares me the most is that they played well against Bayern in the previous match. The quality of the team is not very good, but they are really fighting to do something, and so is Galatasaray. So I'm sure we will watch a very competitive match. Both teams will be on the field to win and get out of the group. Of course, having an audience advantage is also very important Smiley
This is a life and death match for them so it will definitely be an all out match for both teams because if in the end one of them loses this match then they automatically fail to be in the knock out phase.
The first leg ended 2-2 and that was because Copenhagen lost one of their players which made it difficult for them to hold on to their lead even though they had a good lead in the first half.
For the second leg now, it is definitely going to be interesting because even though they have only met once but they must have pocketed the information in order to beat each other. I am really looking forward to this match because for Manchester United, Galatasaray and Copenhagen at the moment they are still related to each other in terms of results.

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December 07, 2023, 09:31:13 PM
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Galatasaray's performance in the last matches was very good. They may seem to be behind in the rankings now, but they played very well even in the matches they lost and were a little unlucky. So I think they have a good chance of winning in the next match.
Of course, it will be a very difficult match and a very difficult away game, but if Galatasaray wins this match, it will be 2nd in the group. That's why I think they will come to the match very prepared, they will not make the simple mistakes they made in other matches
This last group A matches will be hot. Copenhagen will be hosting Galatasaray, while Manchester United will be hosting the German giants Bayern Munich.
Bayern Munich has already qualified to the next round of the competition, while Manchester United will be struggling to get even a spot in the Europa League because they currently have limited chance to qualify to the next round of Champions League or even the Europa League.

The most interesting match will be the match against  Copenhagen vs Galatasaray; all of them will be willing to win the match to secure their round of 16 spot in the champions league. Nevertheless, with the two teams respective performances in their domestic leagues, Galatasaray looks more promising than Copenhagen based on their last matches in all competitions. I think it will be a tough match, but Galatasaray might end up winning the match even as they will be playing away from home.

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December 07, 2023, 09:44:20 PM
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But in the final match for this group stage, Copenhagen or Manchester United could make a brilliant enough performance to win, although I also believe that Galatasaray will try to be better than before in the final match in this group stage. Apart from that, I'm also quite curious about who will qualify for the European League play-off round apart from those who will qualify for the last 16 of the Champions League this time because the points for these three teams are quite close and any mistake could make them worse off.
Manchester United, Galatasaray and Copenhagen will fight to win in the final match of the group stage. One of the three teams will qualify for the round of 16 and one of them will go to the Europa League. Manchester United has a good chance of winning the match against Bayern Munich, but whether they qualify or not really depends on the Galatasaray and Copenhagen matches.

The scenario that Manchester United needs to qualify for the round of 16 is to win the match against Bayern Munich and expect Copenhagen and Galatasaray to draw, for me that scenario is super difficult.

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December 07, 2023, 09:48:46 PM
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Seeing some of the games leading to the final group games,I think clubs such as Newcastle will be sent packing because they haven't been putting up a convincing performance lately!
If we look back at Newcastles win against United they did not impress in that game inspite of the win ,and today they got beat by an Everton team that I consider to be struggling for form ,and with another EPL game to go before champions league football this team will be fatigued and they will have that as an excuse for their early exit, otherwise Newcastle are gone for me!

Manchester United, Galatasaray and Copenhagen will fight to win in the final match of the group stage. One of the three teams will qualify for the round of 16 and one of them will go to the Europa League. Manchester United has a good chance of winning the match against Bayern Munich, but whether they qualify or not really depends on the Galatasaray and Copenhagen matches.
Let's not complicate this one, that Galatasaray and Copenhagen match will be the decider and this match will have goals and won't end in a draw either...

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December 07, 2023, 09:54:04 PM
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A striker does need a good supply of balls that he can then utilize into a goal. A player cannot work alone, especially if it is an attacker who gets a lot of care from the opposing defender.
Maybe we can see Haaland at Manchester City, yes he is very good at finishing attacks, but don't forget that he also gets a very good supply from Manchester City midfielders, one of them from KDB. An attacking organizer will determine the fate of an attacker.
Pep Guardiola have already arranged his squads and they do actually deserved all the major trophies they're winning this present day because they worked years to build up the club to become one of the very best clubs in the English Premier League football. Clubs like Manchester City have a strong solid midfield with playmaker making down to feed the frontlines with key long and short passes to elevate them to score goals. But with the absence of these basic players, I've no idea what's happening to Manchester City, going three games without a win in EPL is absurd and all fingers points to something is wrong somewhere in the squad.

So far in the games we have seen from Manchester City during this season in all tournaments, I can say this Manchester City is far from what we were expecting from them to see in the past and Manchester City hasn't had a good performance so far. Manchester City is in the group with teams like Leipzig and two other weak teams and they haven't had a hard match yet but if they play against the stronger teams, they will have problems even with a coach like Guardiola in this team.

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December 07, 2023, 09:54:58 PM
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After seeing Manchester City's performance recently I started to doubt their future performances in the Champions League also. Because there is a huge decline in their performance. After getting 3 draws in a row in the Premier League they played a horrible game against Aston Villa. They were not much different than a ghost on the pitch.  Sad

If Guardiola can't make this team recover as soon as possible I'm really worried about their future in the season. They might finish it without a big title.

I wonder what the reason behind has been so far. Because everything started all of a sudden and still goes on badly for many weeks.
I don't think Manchester city will take any title this season, this season is one of the tough and interesting season every team coming out with competition, I don't know what's wrong with city boys and they need to sit up and take actions very quick or they'll not go far talk less of winning a title this season. I don't think pep is the problem and let's not blame pep yet, the team need time I think the pressure is just too much and they're trying, but I can't believe the fact that Villa won Manchester city, if they continue like this how will they win the next match, although they might win but let's not expect anything yet.
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December 07, 2023, 10:05:47 PM
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Manchester United could win over Bayern Munich, but I think they will only fight for the Europa League. The chances of getting to the round of 16 are very low considering Galatasaray's performance, but no one knows for sure although analytically I believe Galatasaray will get there.

Well don't even dream that Manchester united will win Bayern Munich because despite the fact that Bayern Munich have qualified for the knockout stages but that doesn't mean they'll be so weak for Manchester united to beat them and for the fact that Bayern Munich drew their last match with FC Copenhagen will even make them to put more of their energy and concentration in that match because Bayern Munich is always very active whenever they meet bigger clubs unlike when they meet smaller teams.

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December 07, 2023, 10:22:54 PM
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Manchester United, Galatasaray and Copenhagen will fight to win in the final match of the group stage. One of the three teams will qualify for the round of 16 and one of them will go to the Europa League. Manchester United has a good chance of winning the match against Bayern Munich, but whether they qualify or not really depends on the Galatasaray and Copenhagen matches.

The scenario that Manchester United needs to qualify for the round of 16 is to win the match against Bayern Munich and expect Copenhagen and Galatasaray to draw, for me that scenario is super difficult.
If wishes were horses, Manchester United fans would prefer seeing Copenhagen and Galatasaray having a draw the second time than any of them having a win against each other. On the flip side, they should win against Bayern Munich.
To Manchester United fans, the idea for other clubs to draw is beautiful while they win not to lose so that they won't miss of qualifying round of 16, and one of them(Galatasaray or Copenhagen) would like to go to the European League.

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December 07, 2023, 10:25:27 PM
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This is a life and death match for them so it will definitely be an all out match for both teams because if in the end one of them loses this match then they automatically fail to be in the knock out phase.
The first leg ended 2-2 and that was because Copenhagen lost one of their players which made it difficult for them to hold on to their lead even though they had a good lead in the first half.
For the second leg now, it is definitely going to be interesting because even though they have only met once but they must have pocketed the information in order to beat each other. I am really looking forward to this match because for Manchester United, Galatasaray and Copenhagen at the moment they are still related to each other in terms of results.
In Group A, the three teams below Bayern Munich ranking still have the same chance of qualifying for the round of 16, so they must make the best use of this match to achieve victory. But there is a big chance that this will happen in the Copenhagen vs Galatasaray match because in my observations Galatasay has stronger strength compared to Copenhagen so this match will be won by Galatasaray. But that's just my prediction and it all depends on each choice if want to bet on this match.

So, if Galatasaray is able to win this match, I think they will qualify for the next round because in other matches, it is unlikely that Manchester united will be able to beat Bayern munich. But we'll see, because the last match is a life and death match for them, of course they will play better than what they did in the previous match.

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December 07, 2023, 10:45:33 PM
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Manchester United, Galatasaray and Copenhagen will fight to win in the final match of the group stage. One of the three teams will qualify for the round of 16 and one of them will go to the Europa League. Manchester United has a good chance of winning the match against Bayern Munich, but whether they qualify or not really depends on the Galatasaray and Copenhagen matches.

The scenario that Manchester United needs to qualify for the round of 16 is to win the match against Bayern Munich and expect Copenhagen and Galatasaray to draw, for me that scenario is super difficult.
Yes, 3 teams still have the chance to qualify for the next round. Galatasaray and Copenhagen only need a win to qualify, but Man United need to win the match against Bayern Munich and hope the match Galatasaray vs Copenhagen will be draw. I don't think Man United will have a good chance, Galatasaray and Copenhagen have a better chance to qualify. Man United is in a complicated situation, they a re a must to win and hope for the miracle for the match match Galatasaray vs Copenhagen. It is very true that this will be difficult for Man United although it is not impossible. Football match sometimes can end up with a big surprise.


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December 08, 2023, 01:12:28 AM
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After seeing Manchester City's performance recently I started to doubt their future performances in the Champions League also. Because there is a huge decline in their performance. After getting 3 draws in a row in the Premier League they played a horrible game against Aston Villa. They were not much different than a ghost on the pitch.  Sad

If Guardiola can't make this team recover as soon as possible I'm really worried about their future in the season. They might finish it without a big title.

I wonder what the reason behind has been so far. Because everything started all of a sudden and still goes on badly for many weeks.

First, they let player's go and could not replace them well. Pep Guardiola failed at achieving that with the club. The move of IIkay Gundogan and that of Mahrez affected City. They brought in Doku who has done well but Pep Guardiola's last season team had both winger's working. This current squad has just one ( Doku ) now what happens if he gets Injured?

They brought in Kovacic for Gundogan who is more defensive than creative. Gundogans absence must have been seen. With how its going, it shows that the Premier League would be difficult for him and Manchester City. They're going to have most of them lads back soon they'll cope.

Well, so far in the Champions League, they have been performing well. You know that the performance in the Champions League is very different from the performance in English Premier League. But the thing is, so far in the Champions League, Manchester City was facing weaker opponents, to be honest. Even if we don't want to say weaker opponents, we have to say that the competition was relatively easier compared to what it is going to be in the next stages of the competition.

And the performance in the English Premier League has definitely been pretty bad for them. Only one win in the last five matches. I don't think Manchester City is going to lose both titles, to be honest. If they see that they are not being able to play consistently in the English Premier League, they are going to concentrate on the Champions League, which is going to give them more chance in the Champions League in my opinion.

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December 08, 2023, 01:48:46 AM
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Yes, 3 teams still have the chance to qualify for the next round. Galatasaray and Copenhagen only need a win to qualify, but Man United need to win the match against Bayern Munich and hope the match Galatasaray vs Copenhagen will be draw. I don't think Man United will have a good chance, Galatasaray and Copenhagen have a better chance to qualify. Man United is in a complicated situation, they a re a must to win and hope for the miracle for the match match Galatasaray vs Copenhagen. It is very true that this will be difficult for Man United although it is not impossible. Football match sometimes can end up with a big surprise.


There might be surprises but we should also hope for good results. Erik Ten Hag costs this and also the players, they didn't win the necessary matches available rather they took it for granted and now they have to do all their best to win Bayern Munich or end up been eliminated from UCL competition this season, it will be too easy for the English club to go home. At this point, it's complicated for Manchester United because there only option is to win Bayern Munich and only hope for either Galatasaray or Copenhagen to come out a draw tie.

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December 08, 2023, 02:05:12 AM
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In this particular case I doubt that Thomas Tuchel will decide to let his best eleven players play most of the game. He is frequently complaining about how thin his squad is and that injuries and physical stress are a major risk to their success and that he has already problems to retain control over the physical exhaustion of each player. Since he is saying all these things repeatedly, I expect him to let other players with less practice play. I can imagine that he would even leave Harry Kane on the bench. And I could understand it, maybe I would do the same if I was him.  
This might happen because Bayern Munich have secured their position as group winner and are certain to qualify for the next rounds, but Thomas Tuchel certainly also hopes that even though he doesn't play with his flagship players, Bayern Munich will still emerge as winners so it will be pressure on other clubs if the players The one Tuchel uses also has almost the same strength so other clubs don't think that Tuchel only relies on Harry Kane.
Important player must be secured because there are still many matches to be played and this is still half the journey. Tuchel only hopes that his important players remain fit and do not suffer injuries.
The last match will not mean anything for Bayern Munich but it will be an important match for Bayern fans because of course fans want victory for their favorite club.

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