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December 14, 2023, 07:59:46 AM
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I saw the game Newcastle played and lost in the EPL and I was like, ok they have a good reason for losing that game but this game against Ac Milan was so annoying to see the home side getting that goal that should have been the only lifeline they had but they couldn't defend to the last. I expected more from the EPL team (Newcastle) but they played like fatigue had gotten hold of them all.
To me I prefer the Newcastle of last season to this one we're seeing now, these set of players are not really up to the task and I don't see them coming back to compete in the UCL next season, this is the end of Newcastle playing the champions league.
This is the stats Newcastle generates from the UEFA Champions League. They're competitive, we know that but they lacks the confidence and experience to follow up these elite clubs and besides there group becomes the very challenging group in UEFA Champions League this season. Group F comprises of Paris Saint-Germain, Borrusia Dortmund, AC Milan and Newcastle united, these clubs are here not to jeopardize their actions of not qualifying. The end of the UCL road for Newcastle United this season, the Magpies losts to AC Milan which would have made then see the european spot but got defeated, Eddie Howe will work out plans to become stronger next time.
I feel very sorry for Newcastle. They have really been so competitive in the champions league, but they were not Lucky enough to progress. I will blame that on the injury list which the club has been managing since the beginning of this campaign. Eddie has really done his best but there was nothing more he could have done when almost all the fist team squad are injured. To me Newcastle really did very well, but they have to improve and come back to the competition hopefully next season.

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December 14, 2023, 08:03:31 AM
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Group stage was very unfair for Newcastle United to be honest. Considering how bad Manchester United was in that group with Galatasaray and Kopenhag, Newcastle could go even to next round if they were in that group.

It was not unfair but bad luck for them in the drawing but we cant say that Newcastle will be able to qualify if they were in Man United position. We cant put aside the fact that the overall performance of Newcastle is dropped a lot recently as proven with their previous 2 matches in EPL. They were beaten by Everton and Spurs with 3 goals difference. Basically Newcastle played well against Milan in the first half by dominating the ball possession, shots on goal etc and Milan was not even able to create 1 shot on goal in the 1st half. Surprisingly Milan were able to improve a lot in the 2nd half and create more goal attempts than Newcastle. It proves that there was something wrong with Newcastle and it may also happen if they were in Man United position.  

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December 14, 2023, 08:04:38 AM
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If you never expected Newcastle to get through to the next round,I expected them to because I looked at their performance in the premier league,and judge them based in that.The thing is that they lose form,if not,I trust Newcastle to be able to reach atleast the quarter final of the Champions league competition. But fatigue and injury hampared their moving to the next round.This is what happens when you are in so much competition,the other season,they partook in only the premier league and the FA cup,which made them concentrate on the top four,and they were able to maintain that position,but this season,so many competition,so they must be tired.Now,they will be focused on only the premier league,and will have a little time to rest.
The injury of many players hurt the performance of Newcastle. The club has only one attacking backup which was Alexander Isak. Other key attackers like Harvey Barnes, Elliot Anderson and Jacob Murphy are all injured. The club's injury woes affected them so much in the performance that they would have mounted more pressure on the attack of AC Milan if they had a better substitute.

I don't think fatigue was an issue because other clubs in the UCL are also competing in more than one competition. They would have been consoled by a Europe league slot but they ended up in the bottom of Group F. They are currently in seventh position with 26 points. I think they should consider getting more players during the January transfer opening if they want to compete for the EPL. Well it all depends on the budget of the club and how long most of the injuries will last.

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December 14, 2023, 08:13:08 AM
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I love the outcome of the game tonight and PSG did what I expected of them because it wouldn't have make sense had Paris St. German crash out of the champion this early. With the the kind of form and determination I saw in Borussia Dortmund team this season's champions league, you will easily tell that PSG will not win Dortmund in their home soil, therfore going their and getting a draw was the best option so far in securing the second spot in the group to qualify for the next round of competition.
Why wouldn't it  had made sense should they PSG had been eliminated from the champion's league last night. Please expand your point, because from all I know following these games from the very beginning apart from Brussia Dortmund, Newcastle was the next team in the group F that played with great seriousness and energy in their games, they had good results won their first games had it not being for injuries on their players

 I don't think PSG would have survived to the next stage of the UCL. They PSG were just lucky to scale through, without them in the next round the competition would have still made sense. I still feel PSG are not ready yet to win the UCL trophy going by the way they are struggling in the competition, I wouldn't be surprised they get knockout from the R16 stage.

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December 14, 2023, 08:13:30 AM
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I feel very sorry for Newcastle. They have really been so competitive in the champions league, but they were not Lucky enough to progress. I will blame that on the injury list which the club has been managing since the beginning of this campaign. Eddie has really done his best but there was nothing more he could have done when almost all the fist team squad are injured. To me Newcastle really did very well, but they have to improve and come back to the competition hopefully next season.
Newcastle first season in the UCL has been quite good but because this is a tough competition consistency is needed as well as a mental get used to it. Maybe this season Newcastle failed in the Group stage but  they can still achieve success next season as long as the Domestic League is able to improve it.  It's not easy for Newcastle, where competition in the Premier League is now getting tougher. Several injuries to players certainly affect optimization in the attack line. Milan which usually performs well also had to be eliminated and could only enter UEL, for PSG and  Dortmund their journey will be even more difficult after this. However at least in Group F these two clubs have fought  quite well and have played against tough clubs.  In the future Dortmund and PSG will not necessarily be able to survive in  the last 16.

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December 14, 2023, 08:14:41 AM
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The injury of many players hurt the performance of Newcastle. The club has only one attacking backup which was Alexander Isak. Other key attackers like Harvey Barnes, Elliot Anderson and Jacob Murphy are all injured. The club's injury woes affected them so much in the performance that they would have mounted more pressure on the attack of AC Milan if they had a better substitute.
Injuries are harmful for all clubs, just more or less but you pointed some injuries of their attacking players, now see. Newcastle United scored first and lost that advantage, then lost the decisive match too. Like in some other matches in this group, they could win those matches with goals they scored first.

In my opinion, their problems are from midfielders and defenders who failed in defensive and let opponents scoring too many goals and won over Newcatsle United. In Champions League, Newcatsle United played well generally and they can be proud of their performances. If they can join it again next season, I expect better performances from them.

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December 14, 2023, 08:23:58 AM
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It was not unfair but bad luck for them in the drawing but we cant say that Newcastle will be able to qualify if they were in Man United position. We cant put aside the fact that the overall performance of Newcastle is dropped a lot recently as proven with their previous 2 matches in EPL. They were beaten by Everton and Spurs with 3 goals difference. Basically Newcastle played well against Milan in the first half by dominating the ball possession, shots on goal etc and Milan was not even able to create 1 shot on goal in the 1st half. Surprisingly Milan were able to improve a lot in the 2nd half and create more goal attempts than Newcastle. It proves that there was something wrong with Newcastle and it may also happen if they were in Man United position.  
True but if you compare their champions league form, you will see that they would have at least made it to Europa league, their chances of winning against Spurs was slim especially since Nick Pope was injured and we all know the issues Spurs were having recently was being able to convert their chances to goals and we could see even from the fact that Richarlison got a brace.

Yesterday was another embarrassing day for Barcelona though they still finish top in their group but they beaten 3 goals to 2 by bottom member of the group Antwerp. They were able to convert their 2 shots on target out of 3 to goals in their 11 shots, I guess that's a good stat compared to their recent matches and they also hold a strong ball possession but that didn't stop Antwerp to defeat them, Antwerp having 11 shots, 5 on target and 3 as a goal.

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December 14, 2023, 08:29:58 AM
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If you never expected Newcastle to get through to the next round,I expected them to because I looked at their performance in the premier league,and judge them based in that.The thing is that they lose form,if not,I trust Newcastle to be able to reach atleast the quarter final of the Champions league competition. But fatigue and injury hampared their moving to the next round.This is what happens when you are in so much competition,the other season,they partook in only the premier league and the FA cup,which made them concentrate on the top four,and they were able to maintain that position,but this season,so many competition,so they must be tired.Now,they will be focused on only the premier league,and will have a little time to rest.
Most expect Newcastle to qualify for the next round but in fact, as I said long before yesterday's match, I said that Newcastle does not have enough experience like Milan, who often have experience in the CL and on the one hand, Newcastle performance is very good but cannot be as consistent as Milan facing the last match because Milan has a strategy that unknown to Newcastle and we have to accept the fact that the hope this time is only to get the best place in the premier league.
But I slightly disagree with you in the first word, you said you want Newcastle to qualify just because this club's performance is good in the Premier League, but that's not the concept because in the domestic league and CL it is very different. In the domestic league a club will only compete as is, whereas in CL matches. All players will work optimally to help their club qualify for the next round. and for me Newcastle is not very stable in the premier league and you can see from the points table that Newcastle is only able to get 2 wins from their last 5 matches.
If the reason is because of injured players, look at MC yesterday match without Haaland, who is clearly Pep Guardiola mainstay, the fact that he was able to compete away, beating Re Star and injured players, is not an excuse for a club that wants to be strong in the CL, the coach should be able to assign reserve players in the right place.

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December 14, 2023, 08:45:34 AM
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I saw the game Newcastle played and lost in the EPL and I was like, ok they have a good reason for losing that game but this game against Ac Milan was so annoying to see the home side getting that goal that should have been the only lifeline they had but they couldn't defend to the last. I expected more from the EPL team (Newcastle) but they played like fatigue had gotten hold of them all.
To me I prefer the Newcastle of last season to this one we're seeing now, these set of players are not really up to the task and I don't see them coming back to compete in the UCL next season, this is the end of Newcastle playing the champions league.
This is the stats Newcastle generates from the UEFA Champions League. They're competitive, we know that but they lacks the confidence and experience to follow up these elite clubs and besides there group becomes the very challenging group in UEFA Champions League this season. Group F comprises of Paris Saint-Germain, Borrusia Dortmund, AC Milan and Newcastle united, these clubs are here not to jeopardize their actions of not qualifying. The end of the UCL road for Newcastle United this season, the Magpies losts to AC Milan which would have made then see the european spot but got defeated, Eddie Howe will work out plans to become stronger next time.
I feel very sorry for Newcastle. They have really been so competitive in the champions league, but they were not Lucky enough to progress. I will blame that on the injury list which the club has been managing since the beginning of this campaign. Eddie has really done his best but there was nothing more he could have done when almost all the fist team squad are injured. To me Newcastle really did very well, but they have to improve and come back to the competition hopefully next season.
Newcastle's performance in this season's UEFA Champions League group stage might not be enough to have taken them to the knockout stages of the competition but it wasn't as bad as that of their English counterparts Manchester United who found themselves in a more favorable group than that of Newcastle. Despite been drawn in the most difficult group of the competition after twenty years Newcastle's of absence in the competition Newcastle still have delivered a good performance and were seconds away from claiming a huge victory at the Parc des Princes, the home ground of Paris Saint Germaine last two weeks before they were denied by a stoppage time controversial penalty which Kylian Mbappe converted.

 Manchester United on the other had a very poor outing in the competition this year because many including bookmakers expected them to join Bayern Munich as the two clubs that should make it out if the Group B. In a group that consists of other clubs like Galatasaray and Copenhagen, Manchester United was only able to win just one game out of the six games played and finished fourth in the group. I'm still surprised that the club is yet to sack their manager Erik Ten Hag

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December 14, 2023, 08:54:12 AM
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Maybe Barcelona were already comfortable as they guaranteed finishing the group as the leader. However I still wouldn't have expected them to lose to Antwerp in the last game. Antwerp also had no goal to achieve left in the end. Barcelona should have played better and won this game. Xavi also stated how bad they were in this game.

They lost two games in this comfortable group so I'm curious about their performance in later rounds. If they don't get lucky with the draw I think they would be likely to get eliminated early. But at least there is some progress as they couldn't even get past the group stage in the recent seasons.

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December 14, 2023, 08:55:22 AM
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Group stage was very unfair for Newcastle United to be honest. Considering how bad Manchester United was in that group with Galatasaray and Kopenhag, Newcastle could go even to next round if they were in that group.

It was not unfair but bad luck for them in the drawing but we cant say that Newcastle will be able to qualify if they were in Man United position. We cant put aside the fact that the overall performance of Newcastle is dropped a lot recently as proven with their previous 2 matches in EPL. They were beaten by Everton and Spurs with 3 goals difference. Basically Newcastle played well against Milan in the first half by dominating the ball possession, shots on goal etc and Milan was not even able to create 1 shot on goal in the 1st half. Surprisingly Milan were able to improve a lot in the 2nd half and create more goal attempts than Newcastle. It proves that there was something wrong with Newcastle and it may also happen if they were in Man United position.  
Newcastle was very unlucky because they had to enter the group stage in Group F along with strong teams, when in fact the other three teams were the most experienced teams in the Champions League. Milan, PSG and Dortmund. They are all familiar with matches in the Champions League. Because almost every season they always come to UCL. In contrast to Newcastle, which has very little experience in the UCL.

Talking about whether Newcastle will progress to the next stage or not if they are in Group A. I think the answer is quite difficult. Because if you look at the current facts, Newcastle has actually lost its consistency after they lost many players due to injury. And currently in the EPL Newcastle is ranked below Man Utd. So we don't know whether Newcastle will be better than Man Utd. But I personally actually see the potential for Newcastle to be successful if they are in Group A. Because somehow Newcastle has a stronger mentality when playing in the UCL. This is different from Man Utd, where the players' mentality seems to weaken when playing in the UCL. But now it's all over for the group stage. And it's a shame that Newcastle and Man Utd didn't even make it to the Europa League group stage.

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December 14, 2023, 08:55:34 AM
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I love the outcome of the game tonight and PSG did what I expected of them because it wouldn't have make sense had Paris St. German crash out of the champion this early. With the the kind of form and determination I saw in Borussia Dortmund team this season's champions league, you will easily tell that PSG will not win Dortmund in their home soil, therfore going their and getting a draw was the best option so far in securing the second spot in the group to qualify for the next round of competition.


Why wouldn't it  had made sense should they PSG had been eliminated from the champion's league last night. Please expand your point, because from all I know following these games from the very beginning apart from Brussia Dortmund, Newcastle was the next team in the group F that played with great seriousness and energy in their games, they had good results won their first games had it not being for injuries on their players

Not really in terms of their performance, but taking everything into account, No doubt Newcastle did well but I option for PSG as one of the big name teams that most supporters would not want to see leave so early but want them to progress in the competition ,even to the final game stage. Personally, I prefer to have PSG stay in the competition because I can spare time to go watch PSG games than I will think to spare time to go watch Newcastle games.

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December 14, 2023, 08:55:37 AM
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I saw the game Newcastle played and lost in the EPL and I was like, ok they have a good reason for losing that game but this game against Ac Milan was so annoying to see the home side getting that goal that should have been the only lifeline they had but they couldn't defend to the last. I expected more from the EPL team (Newcastle) but they played like fatigue had gotten hold of them all.
To me I prefer the Newcastle of last season to this one we're seeing now, these set of players are not really up to the task and I don't see them coming back to compete in the UCL next season, this is the end of Newcastle playing the champions league.
This is the stats Newcastle generates from the UEFA Champions League. They're competitive, we know that but they lacks the confidence and experience to follow up these elite clubs and besides there group becomes the very challenging group in UEFA Champions League this season. Group F comprises of Paris Saint-Germain, Borrusia Dortmund, AC Milan and Newcastle united, these clubs are here not to jeopardize their actions of not qualifying. The end of the UCL road for Newcastle United this season, the Magpies losts to AC Milan which would have made then see the european spot but got defeated, Eddie Howe will work out plans to become stronger next time.
I feel very sorry for Newcastle. They have really been so competitive in the champions league, but they were not Lucky enough to progress. I will blame that on the injury list which the club has been managing since the beginning of this campaign. Eddie has really done his best but there was nothing more he could have done when almost all the fist team squad are injured. To me Newcastle really did very well, but they have to improve and come back to the competition hopefully next season.
Newcastle's performance in this season's UEFA Champions League group stage might not be enough to have taken them to the knockout stages of the competition but it wasn't as bad as that of their English counterparts Manchester United who found themselves in a more favorable group than that of Newcastle. Despite been drawn in the most difficult group of the competition after twenty years Newcastle's of absence in the competition Newcastle still have delivered a good performance and were seconds away from claiming a huge victory at the Parc des Princes, the home ground of Paris Saint Germaine last two weeks before they were denied by a stoppage time controversial penalty which Kylian Mbappe converted.

 Manchester United on the other had a very poor outing in the competition this year because many including bookmakers expected them to join Bayern Munich as the two clubs that should make it out if the Group B. In a group that consists of other clubs like Galatasaray and Copenhagen, Manchester United was only able to win just one game out of the six games played and finished fourth in the group. I'm still surprised that the club is yet to sack their manager Erik Ten Hag
Sincerely speaking there is no comparison between Newcastle and Manchester United this season. Moreover the same Newcastle has bitten them in the league. It's just unfortunate that they had to exit the champions league in this manner. I don't even want to talk about Manchester United as their performance is really below their standard. If Newcastle was seeded in the group Manchester United was, they would have come out of the group as runners up or win the group self.

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December 14, 2023, 08:58:34 AM
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Oh my gosh, it happened again and this time it was PSG's turn to dash my hopes of winning the multibet. Sad

I can't understand why PSG always destroys my winnings when I bet on them in the Champions League and even though the match against Dortmund ended in a draw, they should have won last night's match. So many opportunities were created and there was a moment where Mbappe managed to get past the goalkeeper but there was Niklas Sule who managed to block his shot.

Even though at first I started betting on 65 minutes and above for all matches, I was very confident in the two teams that could possibly win from group F and that was Milan and PSG. For Milan, they managed to answer my predictions and unfortunately PSG disappointed me again. Meanwhile, for the other two matches, I also correctly took the over 3.5 result for the Antwerp vs Barcelona match and am not sure Barcelona will be able to turn things around. On the other hand, Celtic vs Feyenoord is also a match that does not have any impact on the group position so I take a double chance for one of the teams to win.

Well, the Champions League matchday 6 on Wednesday was also not in my favor and it seems like this is the first time I haven't made anything in group stage betting.

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December 14, 2023, 09:01:13 AM
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I feel very sorry for Newcastle. They have really been so competitive in the champions league, but they were not Lucky enough to progress. I will blame that on the injury list which the club has been managing since the beginning of this campaign.
Yeah actually I feel bad for them too because I no the kind of effort they have Putin in this season but however it was quite unfortunate they were unable to qualify to another round, although if they had putting more effort on there last match against AC Milan they would have qualified because they had the opportunity to have scored Ac Milan on the 33 minutes of the match and they were able to maintain and defend the goal till the second half of the match before Ac Milan was able to equalize and later win Newcastle United 2-1.

Perhaps just like you said the injury players was actually what affected the performance of Newcastle United because if they had all been in a good state I doubt if Ac Milan would have win them.

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Injuries are harmful for all clubs, just more or less but you pointed some injuries of their attacking players, now see. Newcastle United scored first and lost that advantage, then lost the decisive match too. Like in some other matches in this group, they could win those matches with goals they scored first.

In my opinion, their problems are from midfielders and defenders who failed in defensive and let opponents scoring too many goals and won over Newcatsle United. In Champions League, Newcatsle United played well generally and they can be proud of their performances. If they can join it again next season, I expect better performances from them.

You don’t think that they only have losses in the attack line, look at the list of injured Newcastle players and it will become clear to you that they have losses in all positions.

I said at the beginning of the season that Howe could face two types of problems, either a decline or a large number of injuries. Last season it was easier for them because they only played in the Premier League, this time they had to give their best in every Champions League match and this became a critical tiredness on the players.

Now is the time when Newcastle only has the Premier League left, they will be able to recover and improve their results again, and Howe needs to draw conclusions from this situation, if he does not do this, he will get exactly the same result in the future.

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Tragic with Newcastle United appearance in Champion League, first time participants after absent for longer time they have eliminated from group stage and difficult to raise top third standings as position for qualifying to Europe League. Last season, Newcastle United have quit well impressive performance and success become big four of Premier League. Bad first appearance in Champion League have been get difficult drawing group with PSG, Milan and Dortmund are teams with much experienced playing in UCL.

Wining one of six matches is bad achievement for Newcastle United actually have good started their participants, success taken one points first away match against AC Milan and winning on home match from PSG but Newcastle United performed drop drastically for several matches left until have eliminated from Champion League.

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Tragic with Newcastle United appearance in Champion League, first time participants after absent for longer time they have eliminated from group stage and difficult to raise top third standings as position for qualifying to Europe League. Last season, Newcastle United have quit well impressive performance and success become big four of Premier League. Bad first appearance in Champion League have been get difficult drawing group with PSG, Milan and Dortmund are teams with much experienced playing in UCL.

Wining one of six matches is bad achievement for Newcastle United actually have good started their participants, success taken one points first away match against AC Milan and winning on home match from PSG but Newcastle United performed drop drastically for several matches left until have eliminated from Champion League.

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I guess they will learn from this experience. I think they deserved at least a draw from last night which would have meant their European adventure would have continued, but it didn’t happen. I’m immensely of Newcastle. Group of death and they didn’t play like an underdog or a fearful side throughout the group stage, as they were the less experienced side in the competition. I think they did tried. And they  are on a journey and that journey will bring us success.

I won’t say it was a total failure for them as they didn’t progress past this group stage, but going from battling relegation to playing in the champions league in such a short space of time is a huge achievement. The lack the experience and quality depth wasn’t available. They are going to need a few more years yet to compete at this level.

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Maybe Barcelona were already comfortable as they guaranteed finishing the group as the leader. However I still wouldn't have expected them to lose to Antwerp in the last game. Antwerp also had no goal to achieve left in the end. Barcelona should have played better and won this game. Xavi also stated how bad they were in this game.

They lost two games in this comfortable group so I'm curious about their performance in later rounds. If they don't get lucky with the draw I think they would be likely to get eliminated early. But at least there is some progress as they couldn't even get past the group stage in the recent seasons.
Barca have a strong squad that can make them reach the quater finals of the competition,the only thing I can say they don't currently have is a sharp attacker as it seems Lewandowski has lost it strength because of his age.He performed very well last season and he was the top scorer,but this season,he hasn't done so well,he misses alot of chances and it's making the squad lack goals in some games they were supposed to score many goals.
They lost this game because they were already relaxed about their position in the group,so losing to Antwerp is not too bad.Xavi will have to concentrate on their next game in the Lalliga so they can meet up points with the league leaders.

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Maybe Barcelona were already comfortable as they guaranteed finishing the group as the leader. However I still wouldn't have expected them to lose to Antwerp in the last game. Antwerp also had no goal to achieve left in the end. Barcelona should have played better and won this game. Xavi also stated how bad they were in this game.

They lost two games in this comfortable group so I'm curious about their performance in later rounds. If they don't get lucky with the draw I think they would be likely to get eliminated early. But at least there is some progress as they couldn't even get past the group stage in the recent seasons.
Barcelona really performed not very well and most importantly showed not the strongest game and now many teams are not afraid to get into the 1\8 finals to Barcelona, as it used to be a couple of years ago, and now on the contrary for many rivals Barcelona is a very good opponent, which can be beaten and the same Porto looks in many ways stronger. It is difficult to understand who Barcelona can beat now, but I think it will be very interesting to watch the match Barcelona PSG now. 

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