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December 16, 2023, 09:48:08 AM
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I definitely don't believe ETH is a bad manager. Both what he achieved at ajax and what he achieved last year, making manchester 3rd, winning the league cup, playing in the final of the fa cup and losing 2-1 to city in a close game, eliminating barcelona in the uefa and losing to sevilla who would have won the cup, etc. show that he is a good manager. But this year he is doing incomprehensible things. For example, when they made the transfer of Höjlund, it was very irrational. It is still very irrational. There are those who make haaland comparisons, but he is a young version of weghorst. He is 2 years younger than haaland. 2 years ago haaland was in the bundesliga and the champions league playing amazing. This guy has no goals in 12 games and I don't think he'll score 10 goals at the end of the season. Let's say he doesn't score goals, he contributes something to the game, but he doesn't. In fact I think he spoils the team's game. That is an example of what was wrong with ETH and that's why they performed horribly in the CL and conceded 15 goals.

Nah! He remains a good manager he's just being unlucky with Injuries and some of the players available cannot help project his tactics.
What he achieved for the club last season is evident enough, you can't just right him off. I can recall the game against Barcelona very well, he read game very well and made good substitution ( bringing Fred in the guide the midfied ) Anthony was able to give Manchester United the winner. He got this issues when Lisandro Martinez got Injured against Sevilla. Building from back has worked for him in a way. Having no Lisandro Martinez behind makes that difficult for him.

Rasmus Hojlund ain't no bad player, have you asked yourself how many chances they've created for him? Just same way City does for Erling Haaland. I hate comparisons but Manchester United should do better with creating chances for the striker. ( I have personal issues with Rashford for not always passing the ball for Rasmus )

Now your idea of Wout Weghorst is wrong, he didn't score so much goals for United agreed, but he had a very high rating when it comes to work rate. They say he's lazy, but he's not too lazy to track down balls for Manchester United just like Rashford did against Newcastle.

I am pretty surprised that you still think he is a good coach and he's just being unlucky. He is just bad. And he will not be able to make Manchester United improve. In my opinion, he never was able to improve Manchester United.  And now it is just evident. That's why people are actually losing their minds. In my opinion, he was never a good coach. He had no clear plan of what to do. He just tried a bunch of things and previously that seemed to work out for some reason. But now it is not working anymore.

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December 16, 2023, 09:50:02 AM
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Maybe Barcelona were already comfortable as they guaranteed finishing the group as the leader. However I still wouldn't have expected them to lose to Antwerp in the last game. Antwerp also had no goal to achieve left in the end. Barcelona should have played better and won this game. Xavi also stated how bad they were in this game.

They lost two games in this comfortable group so I'm curious about their performance in later rounds. If they don't get lucky with the draw I think they would be likely to get eliminated early. But at least there is some progress as they couldn't even get past the group stage in the recent seasons.

That's the only advantage they had last otherwise they'd have been knocked out of the competition ( Champions League ) already. They are going from bad to worst. After losing to Girona over the weekend I was thinking they want to change the cause of them performance and step up but they couldn't. In fact sime fans are already calling out for the sack of Xavi Hernandez that under his watch the club are going from bad to worst.

They have all the time to buckle up if you have to ask me, they'll do better in the league and it'll reflect on how they play during the round of sixteen next year. They have all of the remaining days in December.

If Barcelona don't win the La Liga title this season then Xavi's seat might be really under threat. There is progress in the Champions League as they have reached further the group stage this time. But I have big doubts about them to continue much longer here. It depends on the draw as well of course. If they get a draw against Copenhagen for example then they could reach the quarter finals too.

But the La Liga is everything for Barcelona thinking about their long-running rivalry between them and Real Madrid. Right now things aren't going well for Barcelona there at all. I don't know how much credit Xavi has in the board now. Maybe a good success in the Champions League might be enough to give him another chance for the title in the La Liga next season as well but let's see.

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December 16, 2023, 10:12:55 AM
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Mate, I know Paris Saint-German has all it takes to beat any club in the Uefa Champions League, but I want to say that this present PSG team does not have the capability to beat any club In the Uefa Champions League. Real Madrid is one of the favorite clubs that can win this Uefa Champions League trophy this season.
Who has a better chance of winning the UCL trophy this season? Favorite clubs are chosen by professional gamblers based on an analysis of their performance. You want to know why the performances and statistics of Real Madrid and Paris Saint-Germain differ? PSG is exceedingly incompatible when it comes to anticipating in major tournaments, whereas Real Madrid has the likes of experience and good form. Winning the UEFA Champions League becomes easy for Los Blancos because they have been there many times before, with nothing new for them to witness other than a change in their squad.
PSG does have squad depth that is very reliable. But PSG's mentality is actually not as good as Real Madrid. In the UCL, more things are needed to be used as a reference for favoring a team. Because we have seen several clubs with squads that are actually good but they still fail to get past the group stage. PSG always manages to get through the group stage. And this season it's the same. It's just that this season we can see that PSG is having difficulty qualifying from the group stage. But fortunately in the end PSG succeeded. But I also don't think that PSG will succeed in going further than the round of 16. But actually I hope PSG can play better in the UCL this time. Because I actually want to see Mbappe play at a higher level in the UCL. And it's a shame that PSG always fails to reach the highest peak in the UCL. And I think seeing how PSG is this season also still makes me doubt them. So I also prefer Real Madrid as a favorite compared to PSG. But because I am an Italian football lover, I still support Napoli and Inter Milan.
Yes, even though PSG has quite good squad depth, their squad depth is still not on par with bigs clubs like Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Manchester City. If only PSG had an even squad and had a coach who was experienced in dealing with big clubs, PSG would definitely be on par with these clubs and could winner the title in the Champions League, even though they are quite strong in their domestic league, but in League 1 there is no clubs that can winning the biggest title in Europe is still an underachievement for the league.

Yes they still seems to have difficulty qualifying for the rounds of 16 but at least in the end they can qualify with Dortmund, everyone hope that PSG can achieve good result in the Champions League to play at a higher level but unfortunately sometime PSG tend to weaken and in the end it doesn't reached the final.
In fact, if you looks at PSG, they have experience play in the Champions League, but their game cannot improved in a better direction and in my opinion it remains the same. They should improved their performance to be able to achieve the result they have been hoping for namely winning the Champions League trophy.

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December 16, 2023, 10:55:43 AM
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That's the only advantage they had last otherwise they'd have been knocked out of the competition ( Champions League ) already. They are going from bad to worst. After losing to Girona over the weekend I was thinking they want to change the cause of them performance and step up but they couldn't. In fact sime fans are already calling out for the sack of Xavi Hernandez that under his watch the club are going from bad to worst.

They have all the time to buckle up if you have to ask me, they'll do better in the league and it'll reflect on how they play during the round of sixteen next year. They have all of the remaining days in December.

If Barcelona don't win the La Liga title this season then Xavi's seat might be really under threat. There is progress in the Champions League as they have reached further the group stage this time. But I have big doubts about them to continue much longer here. It depends on the draw as well of course. If they get a draw against Copenhagen for example then they could reach the quarter finals too.

But the La Liga is everything for Barcelona thinking about their long-running rivalry between them and Real Madrid. Right now things aren't going well for Barcelona there at all. I don't know how much credit Xavi has in the board now. Maybe a good success in the Champions League might be enough to give him another chance for the title in the La Liga next season as well but let's see.
I think Xavi will be retained for a long time by Barcelona management, because with their financial condition experiencing a crisis, Xavi was able to present the La Liga trophy last season. So looking for a new successor to replace Xavi is not the right step, because it will not necessarily be able to boost and stabilize the club.

Barcelona progress in the UCL this season is considered unsatisfactory, because they have lost twice in the group phase, but who knows in the future they will develop even better. Likewise with the Blaugrana performance in La Liga, they are now having difficulty leading the standings.

I think if they get easy opponents in the round of 16, Barcelona can move to the next stage or the quarter finals. However, we need to wait for the drawing first and see who their opponents are there. Of course, Xavi has to improve his club to be better, to be able to talk a lot in the UCL, because so far Barcelona is not the favorite to win the UCL.

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December 16, 2023, 11:00:46 AM
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If Barcelona don't win the La Liga title this season then Xavi's seat might be really under threat. There is progress in the Champions League as they have reached further the group stage this time. But I have big doubts about them to continue much longer here. It depends on the draw as well of course. If they get a draw against Copenhagen for example then they could reach the quarter finals too.

But the La Liga is everything for Barcelona thinking about their long-running rivalry between them and Real Madrid. Right now things aren't going well for Barcelona there at all. I don't know how much credit Xavi has in the board now. Maybe a good success in the Champions League might be enough to give him another chance for the title in the La Liga next season as well but let's see.
That is a big question and challenge for Xavi which is quite difficult to solve. Moreover, the UCL draw could be quite burdensome for Barcelona position when facing strong clubs. Meanwhile in La Liga it cannot provide high hopes, the players mentality began to waver after the defeat and put Barcelona in a position threatened by 2 Atletico Madrid clubs and another by Atletico Bilbao which now seems to be making things even more difficult so that it is difficult for Barcelona to rise further.

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December 16, 2023, 11:23:26 AM
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If Barcelona don't win the La Liga title this season then Xavi's seat might be really under threat. There is progress in the Champions League as they have reached further the group stage this time. But I have big doubts about them to continue much longer here. It depends on the draw as well of course. If they get a draw against Copenhagen for example then they could reach the quarter finals too.

But the La Liga is everything for Barcelona thinking about their long-running rivalry between them and Real Madrid. Right now things aren't going well for Barcelona there at all. I don't know how much credit Xavi has in the board now. Maybe a good success in the Champions League might be enough to give him another chance for the title in the La Liga next season as well but let's see.
That is a big question and challenge for Xavi which is quite difficult to solve. Moreover, the UCL draw could be quite burdensome for Barcelona position when facing strong clubs. Meanwhile in La Liga it cannot provide high hopes, the players mentality began to waver after the defeat and put Barcelona in a position threatened by 2 Atletico Madrid clubs and another by Atletico Bilbao which now seems to be making things even more difficult so that it is difficult for Barcelona to rise further.
As far as I remember, since Lewandowski suffered a minor injury and when he recovered his performance decreased even Felix as the player Xavi relied on also experienced a decline in performance and if we remember previously Barcelona started the season with a very good performance and even his performance seemed to be dominating in every competition but as time goes by, Barcelona loses control and is no longer as consistent as before.
I believe there is problem related to Lewandowski injury problem affecting Barcelona attack line while Xavi current difficulty is simply not having a choice of players to recruit due to poor financial reasons and with this it seems Xavi only has the option to try as hard as possible in champions league and it fails, Barcelona will return to LaLiga and try to find the best position in the points table.
The only hope for representatives from LaLiga is Real madrid and Atletico madrid, although Real sociedad is also a representative from LaLiga, but I'm not sure if they can survive until the CL final round.

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December 16, 2023, 12:02:31 PM
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I am pretty surprised that you still think he is a good coach and he's just being unlucky. He is just bad. And he will not be able to make Manchester United improve. In my opinion, he never was able to improve Manchester United.  And now it is just evident. That's why people are actually losing their minds. In my opinion, he was never a good coach. He had no clear plan of what to do. He just tried a bunch of things and previously that seemed to work out for some reason. But now it is not working anymore.
Ten hag isn't a good coach and I will agree with you because he has been given more than enough time to prove himself otherwise but then he hasn't been able to prove it. He did made everyone felt he was a good coach when last season he was able to get the team to finishing amongst the top four and did qualified for the UCL .

I doubt if ten hag will be able to achieve the same. Which he did achieved last season so it will be more ideal and better if he's relived of his duty so the team could look for a better replacement and probably see how well they will be able to make something out of this season,  ten hag like you rightly stated have not made any clear stated plan for this season probably a trophy he is aim at at and will make sure to winning by all possible means it just more like he's just comfortable staying at the participatory levels without probably solid plans of becoming the champions, yeah he doesn't seem like a good coach.

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December 16, 2023, 12:04:25 PM
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Barcelona progress in the UCL this season is considered unsatisfactory, because they have lost twice in the group phase, but who knows in the future they will develop even better. Likewise with the Blaugrana performance in La Liga, they are now having difficulty leading the standings.

I think if they get easy opponents in the round of 16, Barcelona can move to the next stage or the quarter finals. However, we need to wait for the drawing first and see who their opponents are there. Of course, Xavi has to improve his club to be better, to be able to talk a lot in the UCL, because so far Barcelona is not the favorite to win the UCL.
Yes, that's right, because it is difficult for Xavi to rotate players to choose the quality of players who will play in each of their matches, especially in a busy schedule, it is not easy to focus and concentrate on two matches in Laliga as well as in the UCL, of course not only Barcelona, even other clubs too. the same, so it's not strange if top clubs experience defeat because they don't play focused and consistent in maintaining stamina and performance too.

There is still time for Barcelona to catch up, but right now they also have to focus on the UCL championship, even though they are not sure they will make it to the semi-finals or final, because there are many tough opponents they have to face with the composition of their players currently still relatively unknown. so good enough to be able to make it to that point, hopefully Barcelona will meet a balanced opponent in the next round of the round of 16.

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December 16, 2023, 12:30:27 PM
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The following is the income of each team in the 23/24 Champions League group stage and as can be seen, Real Madrid and Manchester City dominate the income figures. The two championship candidate teams received 42 million euros for successfully advancing to the round of 16 with 6 complete wins. On the other hand, Barcelona also received enough fresh funds of 32 million euros which they will definitely use to spend on players in January.

But not only Barcelona but other teams also seem to be doing the same thing and it depends on the management to arrange it. Apart from that, teams that do not qualify will still receive an injection of funds, even though the amount is not that large. That's why the Champions League is always a target for big teams in Europe to compete every season because the income from the group stages alone is quite tempting.
Its easy to see how this difference in money in the Champions League negatively impacts smaller teams. For example, Sevilla is having a hard time with money and is missing out on important money that would have come from improving. This situation makes the growing gap between the rich clubs and the rest stand out. Businesses like Real Madrid, Manchester City, and others dont just depend on the Champions League to make money; they have other ways to make money too. Financially, they're in a class by themselves. Unfortunately, this is the truth for smaller clubs that count on these kinds of profits a lot. These differences could keep growing, which would make it harder for clubs with less money to compete at the same level, in my view.

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December 16, 2023, 12:33:01 PM
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I Definitelyieve ETH is a bad manager. Both what he achieved at ajax and what he achieved last year, making manchester 3rd, winning the league cup, playing in the final of the fa cup and losing 2-1 to city in a close game, eliminating barcelona in the uefa and losing to sevilla who would have won the cup, etc. show that he is a good manager. But this year he is doing incomprehensible things. For example, when they made the transfer of Höjlund, it was very irrational. It is still very irrational. There are those who make haaland comparisons, but he is a young version of weghorst. He is 2 years younger than haaland. 2 years ago haaland was in the bundesliga and the champions league playing amazing. This guy has no goals in 12 games and I don't think he'll score 10 goals at the end of the season. Let's say he doesn't score goals, he contributes something to the game, but he doesn't. In fact I think he spoils the team's game. That is an example of what was wrong with ETH and that's why they performed horribly in the CL and conceded 15 goals.

Nah! He remains a good manager he's just being unlucky with Injuries and some of the players available cannot help project his tactics.
What he achieved for the club last season is evident enough, you can't just right him off. I can recall the game against Barcelona very well, he read game very well and made good substitution ( bringing Fred in the guide the midfied ) Anthony was able to give Manchester United the winner. He got this issues when Lisandro Martinez got Injured against Sevilla. Building from back has worked for him in a way. Having no Lisandro Martinez behind makes that difficult for him.

Rasmus Hojlund ain't no bad player, have you asked yourself how many chances they've created for him? Just same way City does for Erling Haaland. I hate comparisons but Manchester United should do better with creating chances for the striker. ( I have personal issues with Rashford for not always passing the ball for Rasmus )

Now your idea of Wout Weghorst is wrong, he didn't score so much goals for United agreed, but he had a very high rating when it comes to work rate. They say he's lazy, but he's not too lazy to track down balls for Manchester United just like Rashford did against Newcastle.

I am pretty surprised that you still think he is a good coach and he's just being unlucky. He is just bad. And he will not be able to make Manchester United improve. In my opinion, he never was able to improve Manchester United.  And now it is just evident. That's why people are actually losing their minds. In my opinion, he was never a good coach. He had no clear plan of what to do. He just tried a bunch of things and previously that seemed to work out for some reason. But now it is not working anymore.
I thought Erik Ten Hag was a good coach when he came to Manchester United last season. He was sure he was going to end the era of Pep Guardiola and Jurgen Klopp in the Premier League. With the performance of Manchester United both in the Premier League and Champions League this season, it is proven that Erik Ten Hag is nowhere near Pep Guardiola and Jurgen Klopp.

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December 16, 2023, 12:40:19 PM
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I am pretty surprised that you still think he is a good coach and he's just being unlucky. He is just bad. And he will not be able to make Manchester United improve. In my opinion, he never was able to improve Manchester United.  And now it is just evident. That's why people are actually losing their minds. In my opinion, he was never a good coach. He had no clear plan of what to do. He just tried a bunch of things and previously that seemed to work out for some reason. But now it is not working anymore.
For now it is like that but in the previous few seasons he could improve and be in the Champions League or Europa League actually it is a fact that cannot be rejected because previously Ten Hag was able to give the best to Manchester United even though this season Ten Hag was very chaotic.
There are some internal things that must be fixed and this can be said to be the worst achievement in my opinion for Manchester United.

It is not impossible with the movement of Manchester United which until now can be said to be slow and with their internal situation that has not improved then I think the possibility of Ten Hag leaving could be possible at this time. Although we know in some situations and news that occur there are some words from management and club officials who will continue to support Ten Hag as coach, but for now with his situation which can be said to have failed until the half of the season ends, it is not impossible that the dismissal can still be done by Manchester United.


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December 16, 2023, 01:30:56 PM
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Barcelona progress in the UCL this season is considered unsatisfactory, because they have lost twice in the group phase, but who knows in the future they will develop even better. Likewise with the Blaugrana performance in La Liga, they are now having difficulty leading the standings.

I think if they get easy opponents in the round of 16, Barcelona can move to the next stage or the quarter finals. However, we need to wait for the drawing first and see who their opponents are there. Of course, Xavi has to improve his club to be better, to be able to talk a lot in the UCL, because so far Barcelona is not the favorite to win the UCL.
Yes, that's right, because it is difficult for Xavi to rotate players to choose the quality of players who will play in each of their matches, especially in a busy schedule, it is not easy to focus and concentrate on two matches in Laliga as well as in the UCL, of course not only Barcelona, even other clubs too. the same, so it's not strange if top clubs experience defeat because they don't play focused and consistent in maintaining stamina and performance too.

There is still time for Barcelona to catch up, but right now they also have to focus on the UCL championship, even though they are not sure they will make it to the semi-finals or final, because there are many tough opponents they have to face with the composition of their players currently still relatively unknown. so good enough to be able to make it to that point, hopefully Barcelona will meet a balanced opponent in the next round of the round of 16.
I said that Barcelona's form is going downhill. Last year, they were champions. This year, they were defeated by small teams. Barcelona's form began to decline after a 2-4 defeat at home against Girona. Barcelona also received a surprising defeat against Antwerp in the Champions League. The weak defeats and conflicts within the team are warning bells about the end of Xavi's reign at Barcelona.
Barcelona, under Xavi, shows an entirely different face, more fragile. The whole team still needs to improve to continue to advance and win.

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December 16, 2023, 01:58:49 PM
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At the end of the group stage UEFA Champions league 2023/2024, the following teams qualified for the Champions League knockout phase
England: Manchester City, Arsenal
Spain: Real Madrid, Real Sociedad, Barcelona, Atlético
Germany: Bayern Munich, RB Leipzig, Borussia Dortmund
Netherlands: PSV Eindhoven
Italy: Inter, Lazio, Napoli
Denmark: Copenhagen
France: PSG
Portugal: Porto

The pots for the round of 16 draw is as follows:
Pot 1 (seeded teams, group winners): Bayern, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Real Sociedad, Manchester City, Barcelona, Dortmund, Atlético
Pot 2 (unseeded teams, group runners-up): Copenhagen, PSV, Napoli, Inter, RB Leipzig, Porto, PSG, Lazio

The round of 16 draw will take place on Monday, Dec. 18, at the House of European Football in Nyon, Switzerland.

Reference: https://www.marca.com/en/football/champions-league/2023/12/14/657a3663ca4741732c8b45ad.html

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December 16, 2023, 02:25:12 PM
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Maybe Barcelona were already comfortable as they guaranteed finishing the group as the leader. However I still wouldn't have expected them to lose to Antwerp in the last game. Antwerp also had no goal to achieve left in the end. Barcelona should have played better and won this game. Xavi also stated how bad they were in this game.

They lost two games in this comfortable group so I'm curious about their performance in later rounds. If they don't get lucky with the draw I think they would be likely to get eliminated early. But at least there is some progress as they couldn't even get past the group stage in the recent seasons.

That's the only advantage they had last otherwise they'd have been knocked out of the competition ( Champions League ) already. They are going from bad to worst. After losing to Girona over the weekend I was thinking they want to change the cause of them performance and step up but they couldn't. In fact sime fans are already calling out for the sack of Xavi Hernandez that under his watch the club are going from bad to worst.

They have all the time to buckle up if you have to ask me, they'll do better in the league and it'll reflect on how they play during the round of sixteen next year. They have all of the remaining days in December.

If Barcelona don't win the La Liga title this season then Xavi's seat might be really under threat. There is progress in the Champions League as they have reached further the group stage this time. But I have big doubts about them to continue much longer here. It depends on the draw as well of course. If they get a draw against Copenhagen for example then they could reach the quarter finals too.

But the La Liga is everything for Barcelona thinking about their long-running rivalry between them and Real Madrid. Right now things aren't going well for Barcelona there at all. I don't know how much credit Xavi has in the board now. Maybe a good success in the Champions League might be enough to give him another chance for the title in the La Liga next season as well but let's see.
Xavi has been doing a good job at Barcelona, honestly I don't know what you expect from him but come on he won them the league last season. Barcelona has been in financial problem for quite some time now and it's not Xavi fault. He is not having the best players he would have loved to buy but he is making due of what is at his disposal. He shouldn't win the league all season to prove that he is a good manager. If Barcelona sacks Xavi which coach will they bring in that will perform magic with Barcelona financial challenges?

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December 16, 2023, 02:39:45 PM
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Barcelona progress in the UCL this season is considered unsatisfactory, because they have lost twice in the group phase, but who knows in the future they will develop even better. Likewise with the Blaugrana performance in La Liga, they are now having difficulty leading the standings.

I think if they get easy opponents in the round of 16, Barcelona can move to the next stage or the quarter finals. However, we need to wait for the drawing first and see who their opponents are there. Of course, Xavi has to improve his club to be better, to be able to talk a lot in the UCL, because so far Barcelona is not the favorite to win the UCL.
Yes, that's right, because it is difficult for Xavi to rotate players to choose the quality of players who will play in each of their matches, especially in a busy schedule, it is not easy to focus and concentrate on two matches in Laliga as well as in the UCL, of course not only Barcelona, even other clubs too. the same, so it's not strange if top clubs experience defeat because they don't play focused and consistent in maintaining stamina and performance too.

There is still time for Barcelona to catch up, but right now they also have to focus on the UCL championship, even though they are not sure they will make it to the semi-finals or final, because there are many tough opponents they have to face with the composition of their players currently still relatively unknown. so good enough to be able to make it to that point, hopefully Barcelona will meet a balanced opponent in the next round of the round of 16.
I said that Barcelona's form is going downhill. Last year, they were champions. This year, they were defeated by small teams. Barcelona's form began to decline after a 2-4 defeat at home against Girona. Barcelona also received a surprising defeat against Antwerp in the Champions League. The weak defeats and conflicts within the team are warning bells about the end of Xavi's reign at Barcelona.
Barcelona, under Xavi, shows an entirely different face, more fragile. The whole team still needs to improve to continue to advance and win.
I can't really called that girona as a small team anymore. It was a part of manchester city and it has lots of potential to be big. Barcelona is having dozens of unsolved problems especially related to the financial issues faced by the club. This has become the main problem owned by barcelona. Bareclona may not be able to defend its trophy achieved last season. Real madrid and girona are too strong for barcelona. Xavi has been trying so hard to build its club again but it keeps failed this season.
Im really sure that if barcelona will try to hire another striker to replace lewandowski. There may be some players to come. Xavi is a coach with very old philosophy. Barcelona needs to hire someone who can implement the modern football.
The era of tictac strategy has gone and it's time to think about how to win the game rather than how to play beautifully against your opponent. This is my main concern regarding the condition faced by barcelona.


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December 16, 2023, 02:54:53 PM
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I am pretty surprised that you still think he is a good coach and he's just being unlucky. He is just bad. And he will not be able to make Manchester United improve. In my opinion, he never was able to improve Manchester United.  And now it is just evident. That's why people are actually losing their minds. In my opinion, he was never a good coach. He had no clear plan of what to do. He just tried a bunch of things and previously that seemed to work out for some reason. But now it is not working anymore.

Lol! You don't have to be surprised, Earlier this year, he made a good point about trying to fix Manchester United, he also knows about the risk's involved and still wanted the job because he knows the fans and what they want. If you call Erik Ten Hag a bad manager what would you call Eddie Howe?? Aren't they in the same condition?

They both qualified them respective clubs for the champions league ( Erik Ten Hag even went ahead to win a trophy which Eddie Howe didn't ) but have you compared the hits and criticisms? They've both been knocked out of the competition maintaining ssme position ( bottom holders in them various groups )

So why has Erik Ten Hag received more criticisms? I know they aren't managing same club and has different standards. They have also seen their best players Injured, why so much bashing on Erik Ten Hag? The management of Newcastle don't even have plans of sacking Eddie already. I'm disappointed with a lot of Manchester United fans who wants change but lacks patience, infact they disgust me.

Erik Ten Hag should be given time, he's the best man for the Manchester United job as far as I'm concerned. Get him the right players and Fvck the Glazers out of Manchester United. I wonder how some of y'all watch football.

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December 16, 2023, 02:59:16 PM
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I am pretty surprised that you still think he is a good coach and he's just being unlucky. He is just bad. And he will not be able to make Manchester United improve. In my opinion, he never was able to improve Manchester United.  And now it is just evident. That's why people are actually losing their minds. In my opinion, he was never a good coach. He had no clear plan of what to do. He just tried a bunch of things and previously that seemed to work out for some reason. But now it is not working anymore.
Ten hag isn't a good coach and I will agree with you because he has been given more than enough time to prove himself otherwise but then he hasn't been able to prove it. He did made everyone felt he was a good coach when last season he was able to get the team to finishing amongst the top four and did qualified for the UCL .

I doubt if ten hag will be able to achieve the same. Which he did achieved last season so it will be more ideal and better if he's relived of his duty so the team could look for a better replacement and probably see how well they will be able to make something out of this season,  ten hag like you rightly stated have not made any clear stated plan for this season probably a trophy he is aim at at and will make sure to winning by all possible means it just more like he's just comfortable staying at the participatory levels without probably solid plans of becoming the champions, yeah he doesn't seem like a good coach.
More precisely, Ten Hag is not a coach who is really suitable for Manchester Utd. If the coach is able to make Manchester Utd achieve good results and unlike this, maybe there won't be many insults thrown at the coach, it is true that he can make Manchester Utd achieve good results. was good last season and was able to bring Manchester Utd to finish in 3rd place and get a ticket to the UCL but in reality Ten Hag could not maintain that good result this season and instead it was getting worse and even this team's chance to qualify for the next round of the UCL was simply destroyed because of Manchester Utd continue to make many mistakes and now they have to experience deep disappointment.

   It seems that the winning mentality is no longer in Manchester Utd's mind if they are in the same performance because the EPL team is full of strong teams such as Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Tottenham, Aston Villa, these teams will block Man Utd's progress to win the championship. Moreover, Man Utd's condition is uncertain and not very good, so everyone certainly doubts that Ten Hag will not be able to make Man Utd win any title.



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December 16, 2023, 03:01:44 PM
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I can't really called that girona as a small team anymore. It was a part of manchester city and it has lots of potential to be big. Barcelona is having dozens of unsolved problems especially related to the financial issues faced by the club. This has become the main problem owned by barcelona. Bareclona may not be able to defend its trophy achieved last season. Real madrid and girona are too strong for barcelona. Xavi has been trying so hard to build its club again but it keeps failed this season.
Although Girona is owned by City Football Group, but Girona isn't actually spend a lot money to strengthen their club, they only sign player under 10 Million Euros and some of them are on borrowed. Actually Barcelona was spend 35 Million Euros for Vitor Roque, so they're should be better than Girona.

Girona is playing with unpopular players, so I don't see money is a big part of their improvement.

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December 16, 2023, 03:09:23 PM
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Xavi has been doing a good job at Barcelona, honestly I don't know what you expect from him but come on he won them the league last season. Barcelona has been in financial problem for quite some time now and it's not Xavi fault. He is not having the best players he would have loved to buy but he is making due of what is at his disposal. He shouldn't win the league all season to prove that he is a good manager. If Barcelona sacks Xavi which coach will they bring in that will perform magic with Barcelona financial challenges?
Your opinion is very much valid, xavi is a good coach and should be regarded as one regardless of the current situation at Barcelona which is clearly not his fault and at the time almost beyond his powers to help the team beyond that which he knows he can possibly do but then just like every other fans, Barcelona fans will definitely want to throw some blames at him.

He was able to help the team win the league title last Season in their domestic league and aswell has been able to help the team qualify pas the group stage in the UCL this season so far, so it could definitely be said of him that he is trying especially been able to work with what is made available to him due to financial constraints on the club, so the current situation of the team is one which should be given more time and hopefully they will get back on their feet and if they are able to get another trophy by the end of the season, it will definitely go along way to help alleviate the financial crisis the team is facing currently.

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December 16, 2023, 03:21:14 PM
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I am pretty surprised that you still think he is a good coach and he's just being unlucky. He is just bad. And he will not be able to make Manchester United improve. In my opinion, he never was able to improve Manchester United.  And now it is just evident. That's why people are actually losing their minds. In my opinion, he was never a good coach. He had no clear plan of what to do. He just tried a bunch of things and previously that seemed to work out for some reason. But now it is not working anymore.
I agree with you, but the problem is that Ten Hag doesn't admit it in front of the media and continues to ramble on as if everything he does is a good decision. Surprisingly, Ten Hag is not good at covering up mistakes so no one knows at Man United that he has not made any improvements so far. Because the players realized that Ten Hag's strategy was not effective in making the opponent lose. From the selection of players who are believed to show many negative points, they are unable to improve the team as a whole. Buying Mason Mount is just to prolong the injury the choice of goalkeeper is worse than De Gea, buying Ajax players also doesn't seem to really contribute. So Ten Hag still doesn't recognize this kind of thing and is even more ignorant.

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