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May 21, 2024, 02:52:58 PM
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When last season ended, we thought that since Benzema left the club for Saudi, and Mbappe was not allowed to leave PSG, we all thought that it will be a messy season for Real Madrid, but that was not true because Ancelotti one of the smartest coach was able to bring in a player that is 3 in one, he has the quality of a defender, a midfielder and a striker. Jude Bellingham came to Real Madrid and shocked everyone with his incredible performance.
Real Madrid did not have good plan if they can not buy Mbappe from PSG last summer. Joselu came to Bernabeu as a very bad replacement for Benzema and a failed transfer of Mbappe. Throughout this long season, Joselu played bad generally and it's not surprise as Real Madrid is a first big club in his career.

It's lucky for Real Madrid and Ancelotti that they suddenly got an incredible good performances from Jude Bellingham. I believe that they did not expect Jude to score many goals and helped them to win many matches like this. It means more in first half of season when Vinicius Junior rarely was available for playing and affect their attacking power a lot.

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May 21, 2024, 03:01:24 PM
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Actually, history doesn't change much because the situations and conditions of teams differ from season to season but it cannot be denied that Real Madrid has destroyed the 2 favorite teams Manchester City and Bayern Munich meaning Real Madrid looks more ready to be the winner. But apart from that, we agree that Dortmund cannot be underestimated they also have unexpected abilities and can also hope for luck. I imagine if this match ends in a draw and it has to go to a penalty shootout then the chance will be 50:50 therefore I say Dortmund can hope for luck.
That's the thing about finals, it is just one game and in a single game situation anything could happen. Real Madrid may have lost all the way until here if all the games were just one game, or maybe they would have won anyway, we do not know.

But, when it is just one final game, Dortmund could get lucky, Real may have many of their shots turn from the bar, and Dortmund could get a lucky counter attack, who knows? Look at their game against PSG, they got so lucky because there were so many shots that hit the woodwork, how would we know if that is not going to happen with the Finals as well. In the end, of course everyone knows that Real Madrid will be the favourites, they are the much much better team, but we need to still wait and see.

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May 21, 2024, 03:04:25 PM
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When last season ended, we thought that since Benzema left the club for Saudi, and Mbappe was not allowed to leave PSG, we all thought that it will be a messy season for Real Madrid, but that was not true because Ancelotti one of the smartest coach was able to bring in a player that is 3 in one, he has the quality of a defender, a midfielder and a striker. Jude Bellingham came to Real Madrid and shocked everyone with his incredible performance.

Ancelotti didn't stop there but he started training this players to be independent of one or two players, so that if they are not in a match, it would not affect their performance. The young players were tested in various wings to see how he can manage them incase some key players are injured. One thing that I love and admire about Ancelotti this season is that he always prepares for the worst case scenario that will play out on the pitch.
It's more like a combination of both smart and lucky.

He's smart to sign Bellingham, at the same time he's really lucky that Bellingham can perform in Real Madrid when it's actually his first season with Real Madrid. There have been so many great players who're great in their teams, but can't perform in their new teams e.g. Antony, Enzo, Nkunku, Onana etc.
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May 21, 2024, 03:07:39 PM
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There is no doubt that anything is possible in the finals of any competition. But then this final between Real Madrid and Dortmund is looking like it is not balanced. This is because Real Madrid is extremely experienced in the Champions League and they have played so many finals and won majority of them. Dortmund in the order hand is considered the underdogs. Any finals involving favourites and underdogs will likely bring either of the two outcomes;
  • Boring finals were the favourites dominates from the beginning
  • A surprising finals where the underdog performs more than the favourites.
I pray that the former should be the case and it will be memorable.
I don't think so, Dortmund cannot be underestimated because this season they have shown their quality so that they were able to reach the Champions League final this season, that is an achievement that deserves to be appreciated.
And indeed in the Champions League final match anything is possible to happen and indeed Real Madrid is quite the favorite, but I am sure that this match will be quite fierce.
I see Dortmund as a complete team and can compete well against Real Madrid,but the only challenge I see them facing here is the big name factor,because it was this big name factor that made Arsenal lose to Bayern,else,they played well,did everything possible for them to have won that match,but because they were scared of Bayern from the start,they found it difficult to break into their defence box.However,I'm not seeing Dortmund to be that team that will be scared because they've been in the Dortmund team for years and have been playing champions league football for sometimes now,so there is nothing new here.

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May 21, 2024, 03:13:54 PM
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These are quotes for the outcome of regular time, not for the title, as you can see there is a draw, but there is always one title holder  Wink The current title odds are as follows:

Real - 1.31
Dortmund - 3.50

in percentage format this is approximately 74% by 26%.
As for cash bets, as always I like betting on the favorite with a handicap of -1, the odds become extremely attractive - 2.50

Anything can happen in a final but I completely agree with the odds, it is no coincidence that I would really like to place a bet on Real Madrid, given that I consider them to all intents and purposes the favorite between the two.

Among other things, I really like them as a team, compared to the German team, even if my favorite Spanish team remains Barcelona (from the good old days).
Real Madrid is undoubtedly the the favorite to win the Champions league final, although it is a final and anything can happen, but there is a strong probability that real Madrid will lift the trophy. Real Madrid are known in champoins league final, as they have won the trophy many times and they have the hunger to add more to their collections. Dortmund has tried in getting to this stage and it's time for them to leave the stage. Real Madrid did so much to get here, they fought Manchester City and managed to escape, so losing to Dortmund in the final is going to spoil every thing they have done achieved so far this season. If Real Madrid fail to win this final, it will result to Jude Bellingham chances of winning the Balon d' Or. I will really love to see Jude Bellingham to win the world best.

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May 21, 2024, 03:57:51 PM
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I see Dortmund as a complete team and can compete well against Real Madrid,but the only challenge I see them facing here is the big name factor,because it was this big name factor that made Arsenal lose to Bayern,else,they played well,did everything possible for them to have won that match,but because they were scared of Bayern from the start,they found it difficult to break into their defence box.However,I'm not seeing Dortmund to be that team that will be scared because they've been in the Dortmund team for years and have been playing champions league football for sometimes now,so there is nothing new here.
Opon say Dortmund are the complete team it not enough for them that Wil not scared of real Madrid everyone knows how the real Madrid performance good this season so we can compare the Dortmund to real Madrid, because their week teams this season. Making a early predict against the week team to defeat a tough team that will be very difficult to happen to be sincerely.

But we shall be wait to see what will be the result of not didn't have single hopes for the Dortmund that they can able to win the match against real Madrid we understand that playing football or meeting the real Madrid is not a new thing for them, but still they candly the this match so difficult this time around.

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May 21, 2024, 03:58:38 PM
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Madrid must be careful in facing Dortmund because this is the final match and it will not be possible for a team like Dortmund to play recklessly, they will play as hard as possible to make it difficult for Madrid to win and ensure that Dortmund can score a goal in a quick counter attack, but it will also not be possible for Dortmund to play defend because they are of course more dominant in playing attack, at least scoring goals first compared to Madrid. If Dortmund really want to win, they have to take advantage of that and luck to score first.

Madrid does have better experience than Dortmund and Madrid also has a better mentality than Dortmund, especially since all gamblers and betting sites favor Madrid in this UCL final match, I will not predict that Madrid will win easily, beating Dortmund, they will definitely experience difficulties. Likewise, Dortmund will definitely have difficulty breaking through Madrid's strong defense line, they just need luck to be able to win against Madrid. My prediction is that only one goal will be scored in this match, but I don't know who will be lucky to win it.
Early June we will see the two teams meet each other for the most prestigious trophy in European football, Madrid and Dortmund come with different statuses in the final match later, Madrid is of course considered the favorite team in the final match later, while Dortmund who come to the final as underdog team certainly has a small percentage to be able to beat Madrid in the final match later,  But despite all that, I personally will try to bet on the game at least for a draw because I am quite sure that Dortmund will be able to make it difficult for Madrid in the final, because as you said, in the final of course both teams will give all their abilities to be able to finish the match with a victory, including Dortmund.

Having won 14 Champions League trophies so far is of course no doubt about Madrid capacity and experience in the Champions League so far, but can it be a guarantee of Madrid winning their 15th UCL  in this season?
Of course not in my opinion, because we can see at this time Dortmund also have an unyielding spirit and of course they also have a chance to win the Champions League, especially if Dortmund are able to play very solid like they destroyed PSG and other teams on the way to the final this season.

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May 21, 2024, 04:11:44 PM
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Real Madrid win in Wembley any of his Champions League? Or this is gonna be the first one in that mithycal stadium?.

I think if Real MAdrid ending up winning this Champions League is gonna be a good end for this kind of champions League, we have to remember this is the last one with this format, the next year is gonna be a total diferent one.


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May 21, 2024, 04:17:17 PM
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I see Dortmund as a complete team and can compete well against Real Madrid,but the only challenge I see them facing here is the big name factor,because it was this big name factor that made Arsenal lose to Bayern,else,they played well,did everything possible for them to have won that match,but because they were scared of Bayern from the start,they found it difficult to break into their defence box.However,I'm not seeing Dortmund to be that team that will be scared because they've been in the Dortmund team for years and have been playing champions league football for sometimes now,so there is nothing new here.

Yes I get you Real Madrid are Real Madrid in the Champions league and Dortmund are also a big club but I tell you this there is a wider difference between those two clubs leave aside the club’s pedigree but the individuals involve in this two clubs. Let me start with Coaches, Real Madrid have Carlo Ancelloti who if I am not mistaken has been to most champions league finals than any other manager currently managing a team, this vast experience makes him to edges past Eden Terdzic who is just in his first and could be anxious and nervous about the whole and might end up making mistakes.

Then there is the players, Madrid have the likes of Kroos, Modric, Nacho and Carvajal who are going for their sixth finals and possibly their sixth champions league winning medals too. This kind of mentality is top notch and it is what every team will need in major final. Dortmund have players who are except Rues and Hummels haven’t got past the quarterfinals before in the team and this could create some nervousness too. I could remember Vinicius saying he had to ask Kroos how it was to play in the final last time Madrid got there, which was it first. This shows that experience matters a lot.

Now aside experience compare the players in both clubs and see how they are playing at the moment, i don’t think any of the players in Dortmund can breakthrough into the Real Madrid team at the moment which is another huge difference again

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May 21, 2024, 04:23:57 PM
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Real Madrid is undoubtedly the the favorite to win the Champions league final, although it is a final and anything can happen, but there is a strong probability that real Madrid will lift the trophy. Real Madrid are known in champoins league final, as they have won the trophy many times and they have the hunger to add more to their collections. Dortmund has tried in getting to this stage and it's time for them to leave the stage. Real Madrid did so much to get here, they fought Manchester City and managed to escape, so losing to Dortmund in the final is going to spoil every thing they have done achieved so far this season. If Real Madrid fail to win this final, it will result to Jude Bellingham chances of winning the Balon d' Or. I will really love to see Jude Bellingham to win the world best.
Real Madrid really deserved the title, they did a pretty good job to reach the final. El Real also has a squad that is quite capable and some of them are also quite experienced. Toni Kroos would definitely be very happy if he was able to win the title as a parting gift. Meanwhile, Bellingham will also be a point of attention because he is also a former Dortmund player who has now been quite successful with the Whites. Apart from that, as you said, Bellingham is also nominated for the Ballon d'Or and has quite a chance if he is able to lift the trophy. I'm really looking forward to Real Madrid lifting its 15th title.

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When last season ended, we thought that since Benzema left the club for Saudi, and Mbappe was not allowed to leave PSG, we all thought that it will be a messy season for Real Madrid, but that was not true because Ancelotti one of the smartest coach was able to bring in a player that is 3 in one, he has the quality of a defender, a midfielder and a striker. Jude Bellingham came to Real Madrid and shocked everyone with his incredible performance.
Real Madrid did not have good plan if they can not buy Mbappe from PSG last summer. Joselu came to Bernabeu as a very bad replacement for Benzema and a failed transfer of Mbappe. Throughout this long season, Joselu played bad generally and it's not surprise as Real Madrid is a first big club in his career.

It's lucky for Real Madrid and Ancelotti that they suddenly got an incredible good performances from Jude Bellingham. I believe that they did not expect Jude to score many goals and helped them to win many matches like this. It means more in first half of season when Vinicius Junior rarely was available for playing and affect their attacking power a lot.
In a difficult season, Real Madrid still knows how to show courage to aim for the treble. After winning the Spanish Super Cup and taking the throne in La Liga, they set the goal of winning the Champions League for the 15th time in history. Not to mention Benzema left the club to go to Saudi Arabia. It must be emphasized that Real Madrid this season faces a fierce injury storm. Due to serious injuries, they lost pillars like Eder Militao, David Alaba, and Thibaut Courtois for most of the season. There were times when Real Madrid's defense was devastated. But coach Carlo Ancelotti always knows how to help the Bernabeu team win even when losing a series of pillars. Any top coach at the top European clubs today will have difficulty if they are hit by an injury storm like Real this season. Carlo Ancelotti has demonstrated his excellent management and improvisation skills. It is an extraordinary job, a combination of passion, love of the profession (soccer), and professionalism. But Ancelotti never complained and Ancelotti and his students could still overcome everything. Ancelotti is the author of this success.

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May 21, 2024, 04:33:14 PM
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Real Madrid win in Wembley any of his Champions League? Or this is gonna be the first one in that mithycal stadium?.

I think if Real MAdrid ending up winning this Champions League is gonna be a good end for this kind of champions League, we have to remember this is the last one with this format, the next year is gonna be a total diferent one.



I still haven't found out what new format the Champions League will implement next season because at least, I still really enjoy the format implemented so far because it provides great tension. But yes, hopefully with the change in the format of the Champions League next season, I hope that the tension of the Champions League will still have great tension too, because it will be very interesting. But yes, if we talk about team that are candidates to win the Champions League trophy this season, I think it is clear that Real Madrid is a team with big candidates moreover after Real Madrid successfully eliminating Manchester City in the quarter-finals.

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May 21, 2024, 04:48:36 PM
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Real Madrid is undoubtedly the the favorite to win the Champions league final, although it is a final and anything can happen, but there is a strong probability that real Madrid will lift the trophy. Real Madrid are known in champoins league final, as they have won the trophy many times and they have the hunger to add more to their collections. Dortmund has tried in getting to this stage and it's time for them to leave the stage. Real Madrid did so much to get here, they fought Manchester City and managed to escape, so losing to Dortmund in the final is going to spoil every thing they have done achieved so far this season. If Real Madrid fail to win this final, it will result to Jude Bellingham chances of winning the Balon d' Or. I will really love to see Jude Bellingham to win the world best.
Real Madrid really deserved the title, they did a pretty good job to reach the final. El Real also has a squad that is quite capable and some of them are also quite experienced. Toni Kroos would definitely be very happy if he was able to win the title as a parting gift. Meanwhile, Bellingham will also be a point of attention because he is also a former Dortmund player who has now been quite successful with the Whites. Apart from that, as you said, Bellingham is also nominated for the Ballon d'Or and has quite a chance if he is able to lift the trophy. I'm really looking forward to Real Madrid lifting its 15th title.

I also think Real deserve and should take the title... But it's the final and anything can happen... Dortmund also did a very difficult job and also deserved to play in the final... I think it will be a very tough battle, but Real have more experience and probably look stronger...
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...//:::Ancelotti is the author of this success.
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Without a doubt... there are phrase they say that the fans are the 12th player when playing at home, well, Ancelotti has stolen that motto from them whether at home or away.

Breaking odds against it, Ancelotti, Real Madrid, with one of the least vaunted teams in its history individually with new signings in any of its seasons, has the luxury of achieving a UCL, don't doubt it.

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...//:::Ancelotti is the author of this success.
Carlo Ancelotti is the master planner and also the the brains behind the exclusive success of Real Madrid. He have singlehandedly grown them to peak and they're probably the best club in Europe. Real Madrid have qualify for the UEFA Champions League final this season and we clearly know what it means for Los Blancos to feature in the UCL final. They never underestimate any chances because winning have been the mentality and grown up to be a disturbing challenge for other opponents.

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Yes he is very good, in fact his history as a coach is full of successes, which began in Italy and then moved to Spain. Since 2021 he has successfully followed Real Madrid, but he has also done well elsewhere (such as at Milan).
Clearly having good players helps, but he is also a skilled strategist.

And he is smart, much.
There is no need to doubt Ancelotti's ability, he has won various prestigious trophies with different clubs. His ability to formulate strategies can be seen from his success so far, Ancelotti was also able to beat Pep Guardiola strategy in the semifinals. Initially, many people doubted that Real Madrid would go further in the UCL after having difficulty finding an ideal replacement for Benzema, but Ancelotti was able to cover this gap with his tactics which gave Bellingham the freedom to explore areas that were not his natural position.

Now that Real Madrid is very close to the UCL trophy, Ancelotti will do his best to bring Real Madrid back to success in this most prestigious competition. I also don't exclude Dortmund's ability, it could be Edin Terzic who will make Real Madrid bow down after the match ends.

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May 21, 2024, 05:54:36 PM
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I also think Real deserve and should take the title... But it's the final and anything can happen... Dortmund also did a very difficult job and also deserved to play in the final... I think it will be a very tough battle, but Real have more experience and probably look stronger...
A comparison of the performance of the two teams also clearly shows that Real Madrid is the one who deserves to win the UCL title this season. But I liked the way Dortmund fought hard. They also succeeded in making this UCL season less boring and full of surprises. Last season Inter Milan surprised us. But this season the bigger surprise came from Dortmund.

Apart from comparing the quality of the players, we can also compare the quality of the coaches from the two teams. And once again Real Madrid was superior. Ancelotti is known for the many trophies he has presented for Real Madrid. Meanwhile, Dortmund's coach, Edin Terzic, is a young coach who is actually still inferior in experience to Ancelotti. But because Edin Terzic is a young coach, it is possible that he can create a fresher strategy in preparation for facing Real Madrid. And there's no doubt that anything can still happen. But Real Madrid will still be the favorite by almost everyone.

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May 21, 2024, 07:17:43 PM
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...//:::Ancelotti is the author of this success.
Carlo Ancelotti is the master planner and also the the brains behind the exclusive success of Real Madrid. He have singlehandedly grown them to peak and they're probably the best club in Europe. Real Madrid have qualify for the UEFA Champions League final this season and we clearly know what it means for Los Blancos to feature in the UCL final. They never underestimate any chances because winning have been the mentality and grown up to be a disturbing challenge for other opponents.


Because Ancelotti has great experience as one of the most successful managers, and at the same time Real Madrid also always has a great squad. Therefore, success for Real Madrid will atleast always be achieved even though Real Madrid always makes its best efforts to get lots of trophies and they don't get them easily. Therefore, although we also do not underestimate Dortmund but still,  because basically Real Madrid is really the team that is projected to win in the final match of the Champions League this season. Because after all, Real Madrid also has many young players with great potential and at the same time, the senior players in the Real Madrid squad are still able to play with impressive performances. Thus, it is very natural that Real Madrid remains the favorite team to lift the Champions League trophy this season.

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May 21, 2024, 07:52:38 PM
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I also think Real deserve and should take the title... But it's the final and anything can happen... Dortmund also did a very difficult job and also deserved to play in the final... I think it will be a very tough battle, but Real have more experience and probably look stronger...

You'll given to much credit to Real Madrid like they did a combat before they reach the final, didn't Dortmund follow the same path to clear some top teams. As much as Real Madrid is in good shape, Dortmund deserves some credit too, if it was that easy Manchester City, Barcelona, Bayern Munich and PSG will probably be one of the teams that would be sitting right next to Real Madrid fighting for the Champions League trophy but they are there waiting to take the fight and the fact that that they are not making mouth makes me wonder how they will be preparing for this final game.

If Dortmund has the PR Real Madrid has, I don't think this space is going to contain the both I understand their kind games, trying so hard to manipulate and pre-programme Dortmund to fear in accepting that they are only going to try to beat them in the final but Real Madrid are going to win eventually but it wouldn't work, Dortmund will push back if the ref is been fare for both teams.

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May 21, 2024, 08:08:18 PM
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Real Madrid win in Wembley any of his Champions League? Or this is gonna be the first one in that mithycal stadium?.

I think if Real MAdrid ending up winning this Champions League is gonna be a good end for this kind of champions League, we have to remember this is the last one with this format, the next year is gonna be a total diferent one.
I know Real Madrid will going to handle this game, like this is the only trophy they are going to win this season because they have prepared for it to ensure they achieve the luck from the game, but if Borussia Dortmund will going to display what they displayed in their semi-final game, they will beat Real Madrid to lift the trophy.

Do you think Real Madrid have the strength to win this UEFA champions league trophy, because the team they are going to meet are very good and they are ready to do anything to disorganize Real Madrid plan in this final game, and it will going to surprise those that will going to predict for the favor of Real Madrid.

Many teams will going to prepare very well next season, because they will not allow what happened this season to happen again in the future, which it will be the reason many coaches will use summer period to sign in new players.

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