Success or Fail? - Talking about Gambling as a major income

[mak013]

Thx. It was really interesting experience, but after 3 months i was really tired and had a big list of unfinished tasks. I tried to decrease time, i spend on betting, but the same time profit decreased much more than time.
But i still bet for fun. Now it doesn`t brings me much money, but it is good for relax.

Totally agree with you, mate, I'm doing the same too. I used to think of making gambling my major income only in the very beginning of my gambling journey, probably like the most of us here. Back then, knowing almost nothing about gambling, I thought I'd figured out some winning strtegies and stuff like that. Can you imagine, just after 2-3 weeks of playing I already had those thoughts? Today, ten years later, I know you can win big, but I also know that you can't count on it, and thus you can't make gambling your major income.

I thought the same. But several tournaments with high skilled players made me to think one more time.
In poker you are playing against over gamblers and it is much more difficult than sport betting. You results depends on luck, over players skills, your skills, your well-being, etc. As the results you can`t only win. With money management it is possible to get some income, but it don`t looks stable. In the sport betting it is easier, but you have to work really hard to get stable and nice income. May be i had to spend more time practicing, but i don`t sure in the result.

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[Weawant]

I agree professional gamblers have a lot of knowledge and skills so they can avoid risks very easily and they are successful because no kind of greed works in them. A common mistake beginners make is their lack of discipline in gambling. Every good gambler knows that discipline in gambling is as important as a good strategy. A professional gambler has very little risk so can expect and recover from a losing streak. Professional traders also face losing streaks and it's important to reduce risk when your game is a bit off they can easily control everything.

They also have experience as well which in some cases will help them take rational decisions on picks they place bets on, some of them has also attained some level of discipline which the have gotten from experience over the years so combining all these together gives them the better edge the have over amateur and newbie gamblers at the casino.

Discipline is on factor that it's application cuts across all works of life and it's results is always best in the interest of the person who applies it in what ever they are doing but sadly some persons do not stay discipline enough and they end up blaming their losses on the casino thinking it resulted from manipulations. A disciplined gambler is usually profitable and almost never gets to addiction as compared to others who would just hit the casino at leisure and hope to win but mostly don't end up with a rather opposite results more often.

[Fredomago]

I agree professional gamblers have a lot of knowledge and skills so they can avoid risks very easily and they are successful because no kind of greed works in them. A common mistake beginners make is their lack of discipline in gambling. Every good gambler knows that discipline in gambling is as important as a good strategy. A professional gambler has very little risk so can expect and recover from a losing streak. Professional traders also face losing streaks and it's important to reduce risk when your game is a bit off they can easily control everything.

They also have experience as well which in some cases will help them take rational decisions on picks they place bets on, some of them has also attained some level of discipline which the have gotten from experience over the years so combining all these together gives them the better edge the have over amateur and newbie gamblers at the casino.

Discipline is on factor that it's application cuts across all works of life and it's results is always best in the interest of the person who applies it in what ever they are doing but sadly some persons do not stay discipline enough and they end up blaming their losses on the casino thinking it resulted from manipulations. A disciplined gambler is usually profitable and almost never gets to addiction as compared to others who would just hit the casino at leisure and hope to win but mostly don't end up with a rather opposite results more often.

Executions of sets of strategy works on them as they are good in controlling every emotion that they've got each time they play the game, and like what both of you said, they are not exempted with losing streak but the best strategy for them is they know how pause and not to follow whatever emotions that keeps pushing them to play more.

Experienced dictates that they need to stop and not to follow that lust to try recovering back or trying to win larger than whatever they already got.

[Oilacris]

I agree professional gamblers have a lot of knowledge and skills so they can avoid risks very easily and they are successful because no kind of greed works in them. A common mistake beginners make is their lack of discipline in gambling. Every good gambler knows that discipline in gambling is as important as a good strategy. A professional gambler has very little risk so can expect and recover from a losing streak. Professional traders also face losing streaks and it's important to reduce risk when your game is a bit off they can easily control everything.

They also have experience as well which in some cases will help them take rational decisions on picks they place bets on, some of them has also attained some level of discipline which the have gotten from experience over the years so combining all these together gives them the better edge the have over amateur and newbie gamblers at the casino.

Discipline is on factor that it's application cuts across all works of life and it's results is always best in the interest of the person who applies it in what ever they are doing but sadly some persons do not stay discipline enough and they end up blaming their losses on the casino thinking it resulted from manipulations. A disciplined gambler is usually profitable and almost never gets to addiction as compared to others who would just hit the casino at leisure and hope to win but mostly don't end up with a rather opposite results more often.

Executions of sets of strategy works on them as they are good in controlling every emotion that they've got each time they play the game, and like what both of you said, they are not exempted with losing streak but the best strategy for them is they know how pause and not to follow whatever emotions that keeps pushing them to play more.

Experienced dictates that they need to stop and not to follow that lust to try recovering back or trying to win larger than whatever they already got.

Discipline is the key
Control is relevant
Awareness of situation is important
Greed should be minimized

If you do have these things then you wont really be making yourself getting wrecked with gambling since you are that aware of the situation.
You would really be messing up yourself with gambling if you do have that kind of intent or goals towards gambling.Its never been that considered to be a
major source of income because it is really just that good for entertainment.

You would most likely or definitely fail if you would really be that pursuing this kind of target. Odds is always against us on winning but if you are lucky
then there might be some chance but we know that it doesnt last forever in speaking of luck factor.

[mak013]

Discipline is the key
Control is relevant
Awareness of situation is important
Greed should be minimized

If you do have these things then you wont really be making yourself getting wrecked with gambling since you are that aware of the situation.
You would really be messing up yourself with gambling if you do have that kind of intent or goals towards gambling.Its never been that considered to be a
major source of income because it is really just that good for entertainment.

You would most likely or definitely fail if you would really be that pursuing this kind of target. Odds is always against us on winning but if you are lucky
then there might be some chance but we know that it doesnt last forever in speaking of luck factor.

You`re talking how not to lose and a small chance to win. But there are examples how to win often. Of course nobody can get 100% win rate but if you get odd more than 2, it is enough to get stable profit. I can`t say about casino games, it mostly depends on luck. But poker and sport betting give a chance for gambler to analyze situation and make some changes in his strategy. And if the gambler use money management all the time - he can increase his income until it becomes big enough.

[Natsuu]

Indeed some casinos offer bonuses to their customers who actively gamble but all these bonuses are not worthy or not comparable to the bonuses obtained from VIP level because there are weekly and monthly bonuses that can be claimed by gamblers.
But apart from all that we have to realize that getting it is not easy and the amount of bonus we receive also depends on how much money we use to bet because the more actively we bet the more weekly or monthly bonuses we can claim.

Bonuses are just a small return given by the casino so that we can be more active or spend more money so thinking that bonuses can really be profitable is wrong idea.
Some people may think of bonuses as benefits that they have to get to increase the profits they get but in reality they are just incentives for gamblers to spend money more consistently not earn consistently.

Yes, there is a difference in giving bonuses between regular and VIP users because someone who has become a VIP user will receive more bonuses than regular users. Many people chase the VIP level to get even more bonuses. Maybe it won't be worth it for gamblers who don't have a lot of money to gamble so it would be better for them if they gamble and don't chase the VIP level. But if they continue to pursue winnings from gambling to make gambling their main income, it will be even more difficult because they will experience more losses.

By providing bonuses that can attract the attention of gamblers to keep coming back to the casino, it really works. Many gamblers return to the casino to continue gambling and will be even more excited when they see that they get the bonus. And it will depend on each gambler because some people don't think too much about the bonus and just go back to gambling as usual without expecting anything. They will not use gambling as an income because they know that they will not be able to get it easily.

Right. Casinos offer bonuses as incentives as a trick to retain players and attract new ones. VIP bonuses are higher and it motivates players to achieve VIP status for more bonuses so its a simple logic that only those who can afford the VIP level of betting should be there and gamblers shouldnt push theirselves especially if they dont have money anymore. Remember, if you cant afford to lose the “VIP amount” why would you even bet in the beginning?

[cafter]

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One more point to add: Clear mindset
Having a clear and fresh mind is really important when gambling. It helps us to make better choices and understand the risk. If you are tired or stressed in that moment, your mind may go blank, and you may make quick decision that you regret later. Therefore, it is important to relax and play with fresh mind. A clear head will help you make better decisions and lead to better results.
once i was playing dice in lazy way in stressed condition and made a number mistake and lost m bankroll in a second

[ethereumhunter]

Right. Casinos offer bonuses as incentives as a trick to retain players and attract new ones. VIP bonuses are higher and it motivates players to achieve VIP status for more bonuses so its a simple logic that only those who can afford the VIP level of betting should be there and gamblers shouldnt push theirselves especially if they dont have money anymore. Remember, if you cant afford to lose the “VIP amount” why would you even bet in the beginning?

It's better for us to gamble with enough money rather than force ourselves to pursue the VIP level. However, by gambling regularly and self-control, we can reach that VIP level. There is no need to think about how long it will take us to reach the VIP level because if we enjoy the gambling, we will get there. And there is no need to take promotions that we think are difficult to get to reach the VIP level, let alone use a lot of money because we need to fill the wagering requirements. Indeed, the VIP bonus is higher, making many people want to become VIP members. But we must be aware of our abilities so we don't risk losing more money to chase the VIP level.

[Natsuu]

Right. Casinos offer bonuses as incentives as a trick to retain players and attract new ones. VIP bonuses are higher and it motivates players to achieve VIP status for more bonuses so its a simple logic that only those who can afford the VIP level of betting should be there and gamblers shouldnt push theirselves especially if they dont have money anymore. Remember, if you cant afford to lose the “VIP amount” why would you even bet in the beginning?

It's better for us to gamble with enough money rather than force ourselves to pursue the VIP level. However, by gambling regularly and self-control, we can reach that VIP level. There is no need to think about how long it will take us to reach the VIP level because if we enjoy the gambling, we will get there. And there is no need to take promotions that we think are difficult to get to reach the VIP level, let alone use a lot of money because we need to fill the wagering requirements. Indeed, the VIP bonus is higher, making many people want to become VIP members. But we must be aware of our abilities so we don't risk losing more money to chase the VIP level.

In the end its just about self control. Regular bets as long as you have the money can lead you to VIP. But don’t push yourself too hard just to get there. There is a lot of benefit when you get into VIP but the risks  are high too so better be ready. I mean when you get there it means you are already capable right?

[swogerino]

Discipline is the key
Control is relevant
Awareness of situation is important
Greed should be minimized

If you do have these things then you wont really be making yourself getting wrecked with gambling since you are that aware of the situation.
You would really be messing up yourself with gambling if you do have that kind of intent or goals towards gambling.Its never been that considered to be a
major source of income because it is really just that good for entertainment.

You would most likely or definitely fail if you would really be that pursuing this kind of target. Odds is always against us on winning but if you are lucky
then there might be some chance but we know that it doesnt last forever in speaking of luck factor.

You`re talking how not to lose and a small chance to win. But there are examples how to win often. Of course nobody can get 100% win rate but if you get odd more than 2, it is enough to get stable profit. I can`t say about casino games, it mostly depends on luck. But poker and sport betting give a chance for gambler to analyze situation and make some changes in his strategy. And if the gambler use money management all the time - he can increase his income until it becomes big enough.

While I agree with you keep in mind that to make big money with odd of 2 or just a bit over which is usual and common in sport betting you need a lot of budget to win big amounts while the 4 rules above are more for slot machines which offer odds of well over x10.000 as the maximum win multiplier.Therefore most people have not a lot of budget to try to increase through sport betting and soccer and they go and play with 0.10 to 0.20 minimum bet in most slot machines trying to hit that max win because in the end everybody wants to win as much as they can from gambling activity.

I agree though that if you want to be successful in gambling which by the way is extremely difficult the higher chances are in sport betting and poker where you have a lot in hand compared to games that are 100% dependent on luck.

[Negotiation]

Right. Casinos offer bonuses as incentives as a trick to retain players and attract new ones. VIP bonuses are higher and it motivates players to achieve VIP status for more bonuses so its a simple logic that only those who can afford the VIP level of betting should be there and gamblers shouldnt push theirselves especially if they dont have money anymore. Remember, if you cant afford to lose the “VIP amount” why would you even bet in the beginning?

It's better for us to gamble with enough money rather than force ourselves to pursue the VIP level. However, by gambling regularly and self-control, we can reach that VIP level. There is no need to think about how long it will take us to reach the VIP level because if we enjoy the gambling, we will get there. And there is no need to take promotions that we think are difficult to get to reach the VIP level, let alone use a lot of money because we need to fill the wagering requirements. Indeed, the VIP bonus is higher, making many people want to become VIP members. But we must be aware of our abilities so we don't risk losing more money to chase the VIP level.

In the end its just about self control. Regular bets as long as you have the money can lead you to VIP. But don’t push yourself too hard just to get there. There is a lot of benefit when you get into VIP but the risks  are high too so better be ready. I mean when you get there it means you are already capable right?

Self control is the most effective way to gamble but betting on money is the first step to losing. It will become addictive to bet to go to VIP and become destitute after losing everything here if you bet with more money, there is no guarantee that you will win. Gamblers even if they are good at betting will act impulsively and irrationally because it makes them more excited fearing losing and feeling the desire to win. The point of no return is when the game turns from fun to a hassle that makes you lose more and more money therefore it is better to proceed considering the risks..

[len01]

Self control is the most effective way to gamble but betting on money is the first step to losing. It will become addictive to bet to go to VIP and become destitute after losing everything here if you bet with more money, there is no guarantee that you will win. Gamblers even if they are good at betting will act impulsively and irrationally because it makes them more excited fearing losing and feeling the desire to win. The point of no return is when the game turns from fun to a hassle that makes you lose more and more money therefore it is better to proceed considering the risks..

gambling is about money and anything about money and even if it is excessive it will always end very badly because money is everything or you could say money is something that can affect a person mind very quickly. so it is very natural that many gamblers lose control because it is about money or they are not ready to lose money or maybe gamblers who are too eager to win big use a budget that is too big in the hope of winning big but they ignore something that is very dangerous, anyone could become more It bad not to be able to respect money so if a gambler bets large amounts in the hope of winning big I am sure he will often experience a loss of control and lose more.

[passwordnow]

Why does it always matter what people think regardless of whether you as a casual gambler or someone who does it as a profession? Don't get into that mindset that people who don't know you personally think that you're doing something unusual on them because it really is but that doesn't make you a scum. You gamble how long you want, whatever the reasons are and if you're doing it for fun or for money, why is it a big deal to them? It's not even a big deal to you except for the ugly results like you're losing money or whenever you are in a losing streak. That's not a big thing to think of and it is not their business honestly. And in what you do, like in gambling the only thing you have to remember is that you're gambling with awareness and whether you win a lot or lose that much, you can always take those risk and losses.

[Fredomago]

Why does it always matter what people think regardless of whether you as a casual gambler or someone who does it as a profession? Don't get into that mindset that people who don't know you personally think that you're doing something unusual on them because it really is but that doesn't make you a scum. You gamble how long you want, whatever the reasons are and if you're doing it for fun or for money, why is it a big deal to them? It's not even a big deal to you except for the ugly results like you're losing money or whenever you are in a losing streak. That's not a big thing to think of and it is not their business honestly. And in what you do, like in gambling the only thing you have to remember is that you're gambling with awareness and whether you win a lot or lose that much, you can always take those risk and losses.

Simply saying that it's your money that you are staking and risking each time you play the game, each time you gamble it's your choice whether to play for fun or for money everything will be under your own hands, if by fate you make it more favorable and you manage to earn from this venue then it's you who will benefit, while if you lose to the point that you really lose a lot, then it's you still that will going to suffer from that big loss right?

It's all about decision making and how good you are in controlling yourself when you are inside casinos or any sports betting sites/offshore.

[ethereumhunter]

In the end its just about self control. Regular bets as long as you have the money can lead you to VIP. But don’t push yourself too hard just to get there. There is a lot of benefit when you get into VIP but the risks  are high too so better be ready. I mean when you get there it means you are already capable right?

Yes, right. It's all about good self-control because only good self-control can keep gamblers from gambling excessively so they don't experience big losses. They also don't need to force themselves to enter VIP, especially since they have to bet a lot of money and can experience even more losses if they lose control of themselves while gambling. They should gamble as usual and with sufficient funds to avoid losing a lot because, in the end, they will be able to reach the VIP level. Even though it takes a long time, it is still worth doing. They don't need to rush to reach the VIP level because they still have more time just to gamble, so playing gambling casually can give them pleasure.

[zuzie]

One more point to add: Clear mindset
Having a clear and fresh mind is really important when gambling. It helps us to make better choices and understand the risk. If you are tired or stressed in that moment, your mind may go blank, and you may make quick decision that you regret later. Therefore, it is important to relax and play with fresh mind. A clear head will help you make better decisions and lead to better results.
once i was playing dice in lazy way in stressed condition and made a number mistake and lost m bankroll in a second

That's right, by having a clear mindset, someone who will carry out an activity will seem relaxed, not reckless and the results will not be disappointing, including in gambling, someone who will carry out gambling with a clear mindset, then that person will not be careless in actions or strategies that will be used. He gambles with a calm attitude, not excessively, and is aware that victory or defeat is right before his eyes.
If your mind is confused, tired, then you should stop first, rest your mind by going on holiday with friends or family to return your mind to normal or fine. And this must be done as much as possible, so that the mind is not too stressed if you want to return to gambling again.

[passwordnow]

Why does it always matter what people think regardless of whether you as a casual gambler or someone who does it as a profession? Don't get into that mindset that people who don't know you personally think that you're doing something unusual on them because it really is but that doesn't make you a scum. You gamble how long you want, whatever the reasons are and if you're doing it for fun or for money, why is it a big deal to them? It's not even a big deal to you except for the ugly results like you're losing money or whenever you are in a losing streak. That's not a big thing to think of and it is not their business honestly. And in what you do, like in gambling the only thing you have to remember is that you're gambling with awareness and whether you win a lot or lose that much, you can always take those risk and losses.

Simply saying that it's your money that you are staking and risking each time you play the game, each time you gamble it's your choice whether to play for fun or for money everything will be under your own hands, if by fate you make it more favorable and you manage to earn from this venue then it's you who will benefit, while if you lose to the point that you really lose a lot, then it's you still that will going to suffer from that big loss right?

It's not actually a choice but it's a fact that we're all gambling with our money and we all have the means to spend however we want with the money we have.

It's all about decision making and how good you are in controlling yourself when you are inside casinos or any sports betting sites/offshore.

These decisions that we make when we gamble vary as well based on our emotions during that time. If we're feeling good and we can control ourselves, it's easier to do things on our own and do the strategies that we do when we gamble. A gambler losses his control when he's losing his patience and don't forget to stop yourselves from removing that because that's going to give you a bigger problem when you can't have your patience anymore. For those that are successful, they're the patient people and those that have been into failures, that doesn't mean they are patient but they're also trying hard. But sometimes you need to accept facts and situations that maybe gambling isn't for you as a source or major income.

[rodskee]

Right. Casinos offer bonuses as incentives as a trick to retain players and attract new ones. VIP bonuses are higher and it motivates players to achieve VIP status for more bonuses so its a simple logic that only those who can afford the VIP level of betting should be there and gamblers shouldnt push theirselves especially if they dont have money anymore. Remember, if you cant afford to lose the “VIP amount” why would you even bet in the beginning?

It's better for us to gamble with enough money rather than force ourselves to pursue the VIP level. However, by gambling regularly and self-control, we can reach that VIP level. There is no need to think about how long it will take us to reach the VIP level because if we enjoy the gambling, we will get there. And there is no need to take promotions that we think are difficult to get to reach the VIP level, let alone use a lot of money because we need to fill the wagering requirements. Indeed, the VIP bonus is higher, making many people want to become VIP members. But we must be aware of our abilities so we don't risk losing more money to chase the VIP level.

In the end its just about self control. Regular bets as long as you have the money can lead you to VIP. But don’t push yourself too hard just to get there. There is a lot of benefit when you get into VIP but the risks  are high too so better be ready. I mean when you get there it means you are already capable right?

                                                I think that's wrong mate , regular betting will not bring you to becoming
                                               VIP member as that needs to be allocating high amount to take that High , maybe unless you are
                                               commonly lucky and your wagering from win-lose gives you high advantage to become VIP in short time , as I have
                                               been Playing in couple of sites for years yet never that i become vip  
                                               Supporting your SELF CONTROL thing that is good and better to treat gambling, learn never to become addicted.
                                               and learn to not become confusing to how much amount of money that will be letting to spend.because allotting
                                               specific amount each time will save you from losing higher.

[angrybirdy]

One more point to add: Clear mindset
Having a clear and fresh mind is really important when gambling. It helps us to make better choices and understand the risk. If you are tired or stressed in that moment, your mind may go blank, and you may make quick decision that you regret later. Therefore, it is important to relax and play with fresh mind. A clear head will help you make better decisions and lead to better results.
once i was playing dice in lazy way in stressed condition and made a number mistake and lost m bankroll in a second

That's right, by having a clear mindset, someone who will carry out an activity will seem relaxed, not reckless and the results will not be disappointing, including in gambling, someone who will carry out gambling with a clear mindset, then that person will not be careless in actions or strategies that will be used. He gambles with a calm attitude, not excessively, and is aware that victory or defeat is right before his eyes.
If your mind is confused, tired, then you should stop first, rest your mind by going on holiday with friends or family to return your mind to normal or fine. And this must be done as much as possible, so that the mind is not too stressed if you want to return to gambling again.

One thing that I always advise everyone, when it comes to gambling, is you should also know how to manage your emotional state because gambling can affect our mental health, it can cause low self-esteem, stress, and depression. if you use it compulsively or feel out of control, it can lead to addiction. While most people who gamble do it mainly for fun, others can’t help but end up emotionally invested in the game. So, it is necessary to control your emotions.

[Blitzboy]

One more point to add: Clear mindset
Having a clear and fresh mind is really important when gambling. It helps us to make better choices and understand the risk. If you are tired or stressed in that moment, your mind may go blank, and you may make quick decision that you regret later. Therefore, it is important to relax and play with fresh mind. A clear head will help you make better decisions and lead to better results.
once i was playing dice in lazy way in stressed condition and made a number mistake and lost m bankroll in a second

That's right, by having a clear mindset, someone who will carry out an activity will seem relaxed, not reckless and the results will not be disappointing, including in gambling, someone who will carry out gambling with a clear mindset, then that person will not be careless in actions or strategies that will be used. He gambles with a calm attitude, not excessively, and is aware that victory or defeat is right before his eyes.
If your mind is confused, tired, then you should stop first, rest your mind by going on holiday with friends or family to return your mind to normal or fine. And this must be done as much as possible, so that the mind is not too stressed if you want to return to gambling again.

A clear mindset in gambling isnt a luxury; its a necessity. Thats the difference between someone playing a game and a strategist studying the field. Every action, every bet, is a culmination of thought processes. But, lets be brutally honest, even with a clear mindset, the house always has its edge. No matter how controlled and calm you are, the unpredictability is always lurking.

You're right, though; when the haze of confusion settles in, when the fatigue blurs the line between reason and recklessness, thats the red flag. Pull back. Take that breather. Whether its a holiday or just simple moments with family and friends, such experiences can recenter you. Its about balance. If you're re-entering the gambling arena, make sure you're equipped not just with strategies but with a mind thats at its peak