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July 16, 2023, 01:02:33 PM
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Trying to cheat a casino cam only be fine when you don't have much money in your account and don't have the plan to stay for a very long time in the casino because it is certain that the person will be ban or account locked as quick as possible. Many of these casinos are always strict and ready to penalize us when we do something contrary to there terms and conditions especially when the person a has some money in there account. It will be unwise for us to try and cheat a casino when we know that the casino can in any ways freeze our account for breaking there team's and conditions.

Cheating on anything can never be fine.  It is a matter of morality.  Just put yourself in other shoes.  Are you happy being cheated?  Obviously, you will not and probably will take your revenge on the person who cheated on you.  In gambling history, cheating is one of the major reasons for bloodbaths among gamblers. 

No matter how long our intention to stay and play in a casino, it is always a good thing to exit with a clean account than an exit due to being banned because of cheating.
Agree with both of you because, after all, casinos can find people cheating in their establishments and it's easy for them to do that. Only people who don't think about what could happen to them will try to cheat the casino. At the same time, other people will not try it and prefer to play gambling as usual. They don't want to see their gambling account frozen by the casino just because of that mistake and choose to play gambling safely. But still, some want to use leaks from the casino to their advantage so they will still cheat the casino.

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July 17, 2023, 08:06:16 PM
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But for people who don't want to cheat the system, they will report it to the casino that many people do cheating.
That will depend on each people what they want to do with that and if they think cheating is a bad thing, they will not follow others instead will play as usual.
It's like a mission impossible if don't have a benefit to it. I often find the casino just says thanks if someone finds a vulnerable system on their gambling site. Even if it is very important, the casino doesn't give him any reward or maybe a free bet or something. I think the casino management should think about this. Apart to find out the vulnerabilities, the bounty bug program and review site are good for getting many customers also. The casino must open to any report and must give the prize if someone finds the vulnerability system.
I doubt any casino would reward you for finding out an issue with their operating system that can be exploited by their customers but some casino do give out bonuses on review program carried out on their site and a couple of them are already using this strategy as you have already stated that its also a means of acquiring more customers to the website. Megapari just hosted something similar to this and I know this will indeed attract a lot of new gamblers to the website.

I think that this is a flaw that all casinos have, that they do not reward people who can find certain vulnerabilities, and those who do and participate do not give them great rewards, so when there are vulnerabilities, what they do is exploit them and take advantage of the mistake

To be honest, I haven't seen any casino taking this initiative, and they don't know how important it is, now with AI, this could backfire, because on one hand the casino(s) protect themselves from security, on the other they are the players who are and know about AI who seek to overcome the casino system so that they generate money, this is something that is going to be very important in the very near future, because there will come a time when AI can be very effective and You can win.

We cannot limit ourselves and say that an AI will not exceed the limits of a gaming system in a casino , at this time maybe, no, but I know that this will come, and this would also make all game providers worldwide They have to rebuild all the games and their programming that have AI included so that it does not allow its use.

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July 17, 2023, 09:29:48 PM
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Cheating on anything can never be fine.  It is a matter of morality.  Just put yourself in other shoes.  Are you happy being cheated?  Obviously, you will not and probably will take your revenge on the person who cheated on you.  In gambling history, cheating is one of the major reasons for bloodbaths among gamblers. 

Cheating always comes with many regrets because if you were to cheat a traditional casino where you go to play your bet, you might end up getting arrested and that'll be very bad for your reputation among your fellow gamblers and your resident if the news spreads.

You have an opportunity to make clean money when you place your bets so you shouldn't spoil that because of some advantages you got offered like fixed games. It makes you a dishonest person. Others have won gambling without cheating, why can't you do the same.

If there's an issue on the machines, go and report to the management and even when you don't get compensated for reporting the faculty machine to them, you don't get angry because you shouldn't do good and expect to be rewarded for it that's not doing good anymore.

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July 17, 2023, 09:36:27 PM
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Cheating on anything can never be fine.  It is a matter of morality.  Just put yourself in other shoes.  Are you happy being cheated?  Obviously, you will not and probably will take your revenge on the person who cheated on you.  In gambling history, cheating is one of the major reasons for bloodbaths among gamblers. 

No matter how long our intention to stay and play in a casino, it is always a good thing to exit with a clean account than an exit due to being banned because of cheating.

A little offtopic, but such exceptions do occur. For example, my daughter came across cheaters/scammers in computer games and gained invaluable experience (regarding human relations). I think it's a very good experience and she got it almost for free - it's much worse to learn about the bad nature of people in the real world (it can be much more expensive).

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July 18, 2023, 03:40:41 PM
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Rather than cheating it is all about utilising the opportunity. It is really hard to win against the machines. There are people who are skilled enough to cheat the machines through learning. I don't have the patience to learn as well as try against the gambling machines that are completely focused on profit making. I will go with fixed bets, because in the past I've won with fixed bets information shared on our forum. I'm not sure how far the bet is real information or coincidence, but I was able to win a fixed bet.
after you said about rigging a machine i remember in the past there was a young man who cheated a slot machine taking advantage of the bottom hole in the slot machine instead he used a small amount of money and tried to poke money out of the hole at the bottom of the machine those slots.
from this I conclude that cheating offline gambling is possible but cheating online gambling is a little impossible and even very risky for our accounts. I support your statement that it would be better if you choose a fixed bet rather than having to seek profit from crime against the dealer.
That coin poking thing do also happen here in our place but it wasn't a gambling machine that is involved but it is an arcade video game. Kids does this all the time whenever the owner of the gaming place is not around and there are no CCTV's back in time so they never get caught. Not gonna lie but I got involved with it before.

Of course I realized that it was wrong and as a grown-up man, I never done it again. Cheating online is possible for a skilled hacker and then it was also safer because they can use some tools to hide their identity. If their accounts get caught and close down, they can easily create another one and do the same thing again.
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July 18, 2023, 08:33:52 PM
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Nothing new, people want to beat the system which is doing illegal things one of example is cheating to the gambling casino, we know how people are knowledgeable into computers especially with bots, and other formats or ways just to by pass the current system but of course the developers not called as developers if they cant see this hole in their system that might abuse by the players reason why some of the accounts came from cheaters and abusers getting freeze because of their illegal activities. They see gambling as easy money because of their knowledge but of course at the end there's a consequences of doing this kind of act.
Yeah, I agree such developers and gamblers always look for loops in the algorithms of the casino and then use such holes for gaining an advantage against the house. It is a matter of time to get the attention of the casino developers who gonna freeze account activity and maybe sue the user for such illegal activity. Anyways, nowadays casino managers do bug bounties for findings possible vulnerabilities and they send big rewards to the hunters, AFAIK. It is better to use dev skills on the related industries, IMO.
There's a difference between abusing or using a found flaw in the game and actively wearing the inner workings of the game for the sake of a guaranteed win. With the latter I can't stand by cause it's just a crime at that point and it ruins the integrity of the game. The dilemma only follows people who have found a flaw, not those who actively made it within the system for their personal benefit. If I ever see one close by I'd be telling the guards on them or the whole gambling site nevermind being called a snitch or a rat. First and foremost you shouldn't gamble for profit and should only gamble for fun. If I see you actively deteriorating the integrity of the game just so you can bag some win that's going to be a different story buckaroo.

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Theres no skill in most cheating, its about laziness most of the time and most players who choose this route are a little bit dull ending up caught quite easily.   The most typical use of cheating is just to copy paste instructions from a guide given by those who sell the software or method to cheating.   If the cheat is actually well known by all parties & will lead to a ban barely matters to the person selling the get rich quick scheme.    We get people selling cheats on this forum, its often just a lie and the money sent for their snake oil is wasted.

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When I get pissed off continuously what I'll do, my mind will think of cheating. This is common with human beings, and the reality is different. We won't be able to cheat the platform, but when we keep losing it looks like we're being cheated. If you go request support you'll be directed to cross check the seed and find it fair. Now what is more, with sports betting if you get some fixed matches you can make a winning. Every human mind thinks it is easy to win out of gambling, and later understand the difficulty where the mind thinks about cheating and other plans which isn't possible. Roll Eyes This is all about the casinos and not about the Gambling Machines.

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That coin poking thing do also happen here in our place but it wasn't a gambling machine that is involved but it is an arcade video game. Kids does this all the time whenever the owner of the gaming place is not around and there are no CCTV's back in time so they never get caught. Not gonna lie but I got involved with it before.

Of course I realized that it was wrong and as a grown-up man, I never done it again. Cheating online is possible for a skilled hacker and then it was also safer because they can use some tools to hide their identity. If their accounts get caught and close down, they can easily create another one and do the same thing again.
Cheating can also happen if there is a bug on the code and a gambler finds a way to exploit it to their advantage, after all the biggest advantage that casinos have is that the outcome of their games is random, however if a gambler finds a bug and finds some kind of hidden sequence then they can easily make a lot of money regardless of how unlikely that sequence really is, now this is very rare but there have been some cases like this on the past.
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A gambler is always a gambler, and even the word gambling is not some nice to hear about. Though people see it in different ways. Ordinary with this concert only, you will understand that a gambler will like to do some tricks to win his opponent. Look at the following.
A gamble is a risky action or decision that you take in the hope of gaining money, success, or an advantage over other people.. I don't think there is a genuine gambler in the gambling field or space. Everyone is interested to win the other so if the opportunity comes for them to manipulate they system they will definitely do it.

And op you title should be "do" and not "will". I mean the first word in the title.









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As a morally upright person that does not like to cheat people, but gambles and has lost a lot of money to gambling in a casino where you have sometimes been cheated even without your knowledge or betting on sports, will you take an opportunity you get and go against your moral standards to cheat a casino or sportsbetting place, just so you can win big at least even once.

Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?

I don't think, it will be easy for someone to cheat in the gambling center and go free because everything around the gambling center are computerized and it will be easy for them to tracy the person that Carry out such bad activity and they will collect the money back.  Don't forget that gambling center is a business created by person or individual for profit purpose, so why will you be going such a place with the spirit of cheating, and you think you will go free from there alive, if you don't have money to gamble at the moment, you can gamble another day. I hate cheating, which I will never do such a thing to somebody in the gambling center because the person is there to earn from his business so that he can become a better person in the community.

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July 19, 2023, 09:57:19 AM
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I don't think, it will be easy for someone to cheat in the gambling center and go free because everything around the gambling center are computerized and it will be easy for them to tracy the person that Carry out such bad activity and they will collect the money back.  Don't forget that gambling center is a business created by person or individual for profit purpose, so why will you be going such a place with the spirit of cheating, and you think you will go free from there alive, if you don't have money to gamble at the moment, you can gamble another day. I hate cheating, which I will never do such a thing to somebody in the gambling center because the person is there to earn from his business so that he can become a better person in the community.
If someone commits fraud in the casino, maybe they can get a win by committing fraudulent actions, but the casino will not give the winnings money or will never approve withdrawals that are made because of course every big win is always scrutinized and thoroughly monitored checked by the casino team with the aim of avoiding any fraud committed by gamblers.
After all, when it is proven to be cheating, the casino will immediately freeze the balance or ban the account, so there is no point in cheating in a casino.
It's better to play or bet when you are absolutely sure of the luck that is on your side or when you have a fairly accurate prediction.

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July 19, 2023, 10:06:19 AM
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If someone commits fraud in the casino, maybe they can get a win by committing fraudulent actions, but the casino will not give the winnings money or will never approve withdrawals that are made because of course every big win is always scrutinized and thoroughly monitored checked by the casino team with the aim of avoiding any fraud committed by gamblers.
After all, when it is proven to be cheating, the casino will immediately freeze the balance or ban the account, so there is no point in cheating in a casino.
It's better to play or bet when you are absolutely sure of the luck that is on your side or when you have a fairly accurate prediction.
Even if you do abuse of the terms and conditions that will be selediki by their side, including from VPN users, create multiple accounts or actions that are suspected that the casino will detect it, we will never win to any cheating moreover this action is very hated by them and need to know the casino is now stricter whatever they suspect will be followed up.

Sometimes with big wins and even normal play, the casino always checks back manually, we may have seen that case here, so it is clear why make cheating because in their system they will always be found out, whoever does that action then he has malicious intentions for his cheating.

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I can't even imagine how I can cheat the casino when I play slots or poker. It seems to me that the security system has envisaged all possible ways of cheating from the user and excluded them. If I find a bug that allows me to earn money, I would rather report it to the casino security service than use it because I do not need other people's money and I earn quite well honestly.

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I can't even imagine how I can cheat the casino when I play slots or poker. It seems to me that the security system has envisaged all possible ways of cheating from the user and excluded them. If I find a bug that allows me to earn money, I would rather report it to the casino security service than use it because I do not need other people's money and I earn quite well honestly.
By reporting it, we will not commit fraud that might impact our account. We also help the casino by reporting the bug so that the casino can fix it immediately. Well, being honest can have a good impact on us. At least we have been honest with ourselves not to cheat even through the casino. The casino system must also know if there are gamblers who cheat and will give punishment to those who cheat the system.
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July 19, 2023, 12:07:39 PM
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I can't even imagine how I can cheat the casino when I play slots or poker. It seems to me that the security system has envisaged all possible ways of cheating from the user and excluded them. If I find a bug that allows me to earn money, I would rather report it to the casino security service than use it because I do not need other people's money and I earn quite well honestly.
By reporting it, we will not commit fraud that might impact our account. We also help the casino by reporting the bug so that the casino can fix it immediately. Well, being honest can have a good impact on us. At least we have been honest with ourselves not to cheat even through the casino. The casino system must also know if there are gamblers who cheat and will give punishment to those who cheat the system.
Actually we are required to be honest because there is no other way but to be honest, if we continue to force fraud or take the opportunity when a system error occurs then eventually they will still find out and our account will be given a penalty, their security system is very tight so I think there is no loophole for us to play dirty.
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July 19, 2023, 12:10:11 PM
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Theres no skill in most cheating, its about laziness most of the time and most players who choose this route are a little bit dull ending up caught quite easily.

I would not accept it that there's no required skills needed to cheat on something, infact it's mostly believed that those who partake in this kind of unlawful acts were experienced professionals in that field who want to byepass the normal protocols because of their greediness and desire to have more money with them on a platter of gold, but they also give it all it demands to make those cracks on their walls in other to penetrate in

The most typical use of cheating is just to copy paste instructions from a guide given by those who sell the software or method to cheating.   If the cheat is actually well known by all parties & will lead to a ban barely matters to the person selling the get rich quick scheme.    We get people selling cheats on this forum, its often just a lie and the money sent for their snake oil is wasted.

Either the cheat is from an insider or not, once they make an attempt for it, such has been recorded about them and it may only take a while to get them completely tracked down, anything illegally acquired cannot last no matter how cheap it was.

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July 19, 2023, 12:52:35 PM
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I can't even imagine how I can cheat the casino when I play slots or poker. It seems to me that the security system has envisaged all possible ways of cheating from the user and excluded them. If I find a bug that allows me to earn money, I would rather report it to the casino security service than use it because I do not need other people's money and I earn quite well honestly.

It happens very rare when someone can actually find and report a bug, and I think the rewards for that should be big. In my opinion, it should be like an additional game on the platform: finding and reporting a bug. But again, I think it would be less often than once in a year, if ever, when a bug worth reporting is found.

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July 19, 2023, 01:08:48 PM
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I can't even imagine how I can cheat the casino when I play slots or poker. It seems to me that the security system has envisaged all possible ways of cheating from the user and excluded them. If I find a bug that allows me to earn money, I would rather report it to the casino security service than use it because I do not need other people's money and I earn quite well honestly.
By reporting it, we will not commit fraud that might impact our account. We also help the casino by reporting the bug so that the casino can fix it immediately. Well, being honest can have a good impact on us. At least we have been honest with ourselves not to cheat even through the casino. The casino system must also know if there are gamblers who cheat and will give punishment to those who cheat the system.
Actually we are required to be honest because there is no other way but to be honest, if we continue to force fraud or take the opportunity when a system error occurs then eventually they will still find out and our account will be given a penalty, their security system is very tight so I think there is no loophole for us to play dirty.
Playing cheating is indeed not good and if you continue it will be bad luck someday, but cheating at casinos is only a small possibility because casinos are designed as safe as possible from fraud or cheating.
and even if it does. If you are caught cheating at a casino, you will surely face criminal prosecution, a lifetime ban on that casino property, and most likely a ban for all other casinos due to interrelated fraud issues.

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July 19, 2023, 01:34:27 PM
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I can't even imagine how I can cheat the casino when I play slots or poker. It seems to me that the security system has envisaged all possible ways of cheating from the user and excluded them. If I find a bug that allows me to earn money, I would rather report it to the casino security service than use it because I do not need other people's money and I earn quite well honestly.
By reporting it, we will not commit fraud that might impact our account. We also help the casino by reporting the bug so that the casino can fix it immediately. Well, being honest can have a good impact on us. At least we have been honest with ourselves not to cheat even through the casino. The casino system must also know if there are gamblers who cheat and will give punishment to those who cheat the system.
Let alone cheating, using a strategy I still don't believe especially in slot games that I hear a lot from other people about them applying strategies so they can win the game.
For bugs, I have never found any bugs from a game, maybe other people have experienced it, but for myself never. You're right that if we report it when we find something like that, it's a good thing, and good things bring good things. Maybe when we report a problem, they will reward us for our report, it could be possible.  Grin

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