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August 20, 2023, 01:02:34 AM |
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That's a better thought, than finding a bug and abusing it would be a crime and would harm other people. Better to report it straight away and maybe get a bounty commensurate with the bugs found. But if there are no prizes, then a casino like that should be taught a lesson. At least if the bug is critical and could jeopardize the user's funds, the payoff might be thousands of dollars,
And if there is no bounty, it will be up to each user who finds the bug. But they must be aware that what they do with the bug will impact their gambling account. Someone may try to use the bug first and withdraw the money if he can. But it's also possible for someone to directly report a bug to the casino so that the casino can fix it right away. And it is up to the casino what it will give to the person who found the bug but at least, the casino can give a thank you gift for helping to find the bug. There will probably abusers who will take advantage of that bug prior reporting it. Though it is risky because it might really affect your account. That's why it is really better to report it right away. For the reward of finding the bug, well, gamblers should not have expect, as we all know, if there's a bug casinos have a huge loss Mostly if the bugs are in existing accounts only, they won't really be exploited because you'll be suffering for sure. You are right, it is better to report it immediately with the help of the casino and also hope to have rewards on it, but if this is the case, the casino won't be giving any amount to a user unless they are very generous. Mostly those bugs that were exploited are on new accounts or even without it, which is why bug bounty hunters are finding them and seeing if they can get rewards from them, or worse, if they can't get any.
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August 20, 2023, 07:01:12 AM |
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Long-term effects will occur in casinos that ignore the Big fixer, of course it will be a serious problem. But those small casinos that can't afford bug fixers will do the underhanded job of closing the bug without giving anything in return or just a thank you. That would backfire dangerously for the continuation of the casino. But casinos like Duelbit, roobet, rollbit, etc., I think, will provide commensurate rewards, because they have been trusted and have been pretty good casinos so far. In fact, I often get bonuses from duelbits from some of the games I play.
So the handling of each casino for bugs found in the casino will also be different because if the casino wants to give prizes to bug fixers, it will be adjusted to all of them including the budget. And smaller casinos that don't have or don't have big budgets can still give out gifts like free spins to bug fixers as a thank you. The casino will give a thank-you prize as an award for finding the bug. But for scam casinos, they will give nothing to the bug fixer and instead they may kick the bug fixer out of using the bug while fixing the bug. There will probably abusers who will take advantage of that bug prior reporting it. Though it is risky because it might really affect your account. That's why it is really better to report it right away. For the reward of finding the bug, well, gamblers should not have expect, as we all know, if there's a bug casinos have a huge loss
Yes, people who want to take advantage of the bug will always be there because those people want to take the opportunity to make money from the bug. It is clearly risky for the account because they are still using their account to use the bug. But those people won't care about what happens after that because they want to use up the bug before the casinos fix it. I have always said one thing , in every casino there should always be a sign or a notice that says that any player who finds an error or vulnerability in the casino to notify him and that he will be given an excellent monetary bonus, but until now not I have seen it, they are things that seem incredible to me, but as a business of this style that is so huge , they should worry about the basics and it is preferable to pay a person enough than then to look for money because everything has been stolen, I think it will always be It is good to Reward those who report vulnerability and can support the casino , but the reward must be very good, high and convincing.
In every casino things are not done that way , then some complain because they make an Exploit and that is the wors t, because the casino will not remain vulnerable and basically the work that has been done, that has been Built , is very bad, because the casino reputation would be very bad.
A casino must always be one step ahead in everything, even in security and in everything, because you never know if a person has come across something that they have not been able to fix or the security agents see how they engineered it, because it is something that It is not in the things that should be Accepted , because a mistake in a casino means money, and not a little, but a lot. These types of things are the ones that should be avoided , encouraging those programmers or bug seekers to hack sites that may have a such a great gratification that it is better that and not that they steal everything from a casino, then things should be like this, now that things are at another level, with the AI and everything that has to do with the advances is a little more easy and in terms of security, things can be better Carried out , however , an AI will not replace any player that Play , that Generate money, those that take care of the Security of the System , all this, for now the Things are like this , it is expected that in a not so long period of time the AI will be more powerful and other security measures will be Mandatory there.
At least the casino can announce it or notify it on its website that they are opening a bounty to find bugs in the casino and the bounty will not be closed because every system that has been updated will encounter bugs different from the previous one. That's why a popular casino might give this bounty so that people can help the casino find the bug and fix it soon. Every business operating on the internet has bugs, from minor to major, and it's possible that the casino's security team hasn't been able to find those bugs and someone else has. If that happens, the casino should give the person who finds the bug a bounty so they feel the casino cares about them. The exploitation of these bugs will always be on the road at the casino, so the team from the casino must always be vigilant and continue to improve security. And with the help of people looking for those bugs, casinos can quickly fix them so that they are not used by irresponsible people who want to take advantage of their bugs. By giving bonuses to people who can find bugs, the casino hopes they can continue to operate their business and have a special relationship with bug finders who will help the casino in finding other bugs.
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August 20, 2023, 07:20:31 AM |
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Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?
Depends a bit on the trick, but since all casino games have a house edge that will prevent us from winning 100%, it's probably an exploit that won't be legal. In that case I wouldn't use it because it's only a matter of time for the casino to find out and revert any winnings. Even if I would have managed to withdraw all the money, it's likely the casino would block my account and I couldn't gamble there again. If it's really just a small trick where I maybe could get my hands on a few free spins, then I would try it out. As for the fixed sport games, I think it's something different because you get an advantage against other gamblers, not against the bookmaker itself. Here it would more depend on how reliable the Tipp is and if I can really trust that the match is fixed. Usually I don't think that I would ever find out about a fixed match before it happens, so I would be very cautious and probably only bet a small amount. If it turns out to be true, I would bet bigger the next time.
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August 20, 2023, 07:39:18 AM |
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Mostly if the bugs are in existing accounts only, they won't really be exploited because you'll be suffering for sure. You are right, it is better to report it immediately with the help of the casino and also hope to have rewards on it, but if this is the case, the casino won't be giving any amount to a user unless they are very generous. Mostly those bugs that were exploited are on new accounts or even without it, which is why bug bounty hunters are finding them and seeing if they can get rewards from them, or worse, if they can't get any. Casinos, like every other big business, are out for their own interests, not yours. Why would they pay someone who just points out their mistakes? As for these "bug bounty hunters," you're suggesting they're like some kind of heroes, going around saving the day? Please. Most of them are just trying to get a quick buck. They aren't the White Knights you're painting them to be. If a bug can be exploited, you better believe they will do it, especially if there's no reward on the table. Wake up and smell the reality
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August 20, 2023, 02:20:04 PM |
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Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?
Depends a bit on the trick, but since all casino games have a house edge that will prevent us from winning 100%, it's probably an exploit that won't be legal. In that case I wouldn't use it because it's only a matter of time for the casino to find out and revert any winnings. Even if I would have managed to withdraw all the money, it's likely the casino would block my account and I couldn't gamble there again. If it's really just a small trick where I maybe could get my hands on a few free spins, then I would try it out. As for the fixed sport games, I think it's something different because you get an advantage against other gamblers, not against the bookmaker itself. Here it would more depend on how reliable the Tipp is and if I can really trust that the match is fixed. Usually I don't think that I would ever find out about a fixed match before it happens, so I would be very cautious and probably only bet a small amount. If it turns out to be true, I would bet bigger the next time. Do you genuinely believe that casinos were designed with the goal of being fair in mind? You are correct that all games have a house advantage, but players like you continue to fall for those glittering money traps while attempting to outwit programmes designed to steal your cash. Ha! Do not deceive ourselves. Casinos and set games exist in a world that is not moral; instead, it is a world of slyness and seizing advantages. Why not circumvent the regulations if there is a means to do so? The casino is not like an accommodating uncle. They will take all of your money without hesitation. But of course, avoid getting caught. Your concern about having your account closed outweighs any moral implications, it would appear. Moreover, were any games modified? Pfft! If you believe those things dont exist or that you wouldnt take a chance, you're deluding yourself. Observe yourself, buddy: It is all prepared. Either you move the doll or you're the doll.
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August 20, 2023, 09:11:38 PM |
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Of course not, even though I am in great need of money and way too desperate to win, I will never attempt to do that. Thus, nowadays gambling systems are more strict so you are just putting yourself into risk because your account may be banned or restricted and you don't want that to happen right? Just play fair and have fun, because that's what it should be about. But really, is cheating in gambling possible? I only knew about systems having problems and malfunctions but haven't heard of cheating in gambling.
Well...! is this possible in traditional online games? Not really, at least not in casinos that are established over time. Perhaps some believe that since this type of cheating occurs in eSports games and there are even specialized pages for each game, they exist for traditional casinos and this is not the case, at least not in online casinos.
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August 22, 2023, 12:47:19 PM |
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I have always said one thing , in every casino there should always be a sign or a notice that says that any player who finds an error or vulnerability in the casino to notify him and that he will be given an excellent monetary bonus, but until now not I have seen it, they are things that seem incredible to me, but as a business of this style that is so huge , they should worry about the basics and it is preferable to pay a person enough than then to look for money because everything has been stolen, I think it will always be It is good to Reward those who report vulnerability and can support the casino , but the reward must be very good, high and convincing.
In every casino things are not done that way , then some complain because they make an Exploit and that is the wors t, because the casino will not remain vulnerable and basically the work that has been done, that has been Built , is very bad, because the casino reputation would be very bad.
A casino must always be one step ahead in everything, even in security and in everything, because you never know if a person has come across something that they have not been able to fix or the security agents see how they engineered it, because it is something that It is not in the things that should be Accepted , because a mistake in a casino means money, and not a little, but a lot. These types of things are the ones that should be avoided , encouraging those programmers or bug seekers to hack sites that may have a such a great gratification that it is better that and not that they steal everything from a casino, then things should be like this, now that things are at another level, with the AI and everything that has to do with the advances is a little more easy and in terms of security, things can be better Carried out , however , an AI will not replace any player that Play , that Generate money, those that take care of the Security of the System , all this, for now the Things are like this , it is expected that in a not so long period of time the AI will be more powerful and other security measures will be Mandatory there.
At least the casino can announce it or notify it on its website that they are opening a bounty to find bugs in the casino and the bounty will not be closed because every system that has been updated will encounter bugs different from the previous one. That's why a popular casino might give this bounty so that people can help the casino find the bug and fix it soon. Every business operating on the internet has bugs, from minor to major, and it's possible that the casino's security team hasn't been able to find those bugs and someone else has. If that happens, the casino should give the person who finds the bug a bounty so they feel the casino cares about them. The exploitation of these bugs will always be on the road at the casino, so the team from the casino must always be vigilant and continue to improve security. And with the help of people looking for those bugs, casinos can quickly fix them so that they are not used by irresponsible people who want to take advantage of their bugs. By giving bonuses to people who can find bugs, the casino hopes they can continue to operate their business and have a special relationship with bug finders who will help the casino in finding other bugs. Yes, I agree with what you say, although to be quite honest, things when it comes to strong vulnerabilities that can be exploited in casinos that are old, the chances of that happening are minimal. However, I don't remember in which casino a vulnerability occurred with a casino and the casino immediately closed that particular slot, causing some players annoyance, because there were players who didn't know that that slot had that bug, and they played and won, Later, it was found out that he became vulnerable and all withdrawals that he had registered to make by the people who played there were cancelled. I don't know how they solved that problem, but it was something big and then they left because that particular slot machine had the The error was from its original provider, I don't know if in those cases, the slot machine providers are the ones that assume the expense, or the error I don't know how they pay for it, the truth is I concentrated on other things and I didn't keep seeing more, I only know that no more was said about that problem, and if no more noise was made about it, it is because things came to a happy end. Where there is more probabilities that things get out of control with the vlnearbildaides, busg, is when the casinos are new, because there are many expectations, and I really don't know how to do it, maybe there are people who are in charge of running programs for attacking new sites and vulnerabilities that they get, since it is a vulnerability that is mercilessly exploited, so I consider this a bad act, because sometimes things should not be like that, on the contrary, these failures should be reported and they should be These people should be rewarded, in fact, sometimes this happens and it's worse, because they fail to withdraw the money and they don't keep the reward money, just because of bad intentions, so that's another reason why it's not about stealing to companies, that sometimes it is so difficult to emerge in this area.
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Of course not, even though I am in great need of money and way too desperate to win, I will never attempt to do that. Thus, nowadays gambling systems are more strict so you are just putting yourself into risk because your account may be banned or restricted and you don't want that to happen right? Just play fair and have fun, because that's what it should be about. But really, is cheating in gambling possible? I only knew about systems having problems and malfunctions but haven't heard of cheating in gambling.
Well...! is this possible in traditional online games? Not really, at least not in casinos that are established over time. Perhaps some believe that since this type of cheating occurs in eSports games and there are even specialized pages for each game, they exist for traditional casinos and this is not the case, at least not in online casinos. We never know if when will this kind of opportunity will be present in front of us, whether if it's traditional online games or sports-betting. The thing is, even if these casinos are much more established compared to the other casinos that just been around for a couple of years, the ones controlling them behind are still human beings, meaning, they are still bound to make some mistakes because that's what makes us human in the first place. Now, for the question, will you be taking advantage if a loop hole will be present in front of you? Or will you choose the opposite direction?
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August 22, 2023, 02:58:36 PM |
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We never know if when will this kind of opportunity will be present in front of us, whether if it's traditional online games or sports-betting. The thing is, even if these casinos are much more established compared to the other casinos that just been around for a couple of years, the ones controlling them behind are still human beings, meaning, they are still bound to make some mistakes because that's what makes us human in the first place. Now, for the question, will you be taking advantage if a loop hole will be present in front of you? Or will you choose the opposite direction?
Personally speaking, I won't exploit it. Simply because it will just give a short-while happiness and probably give a whole another level of headache the moment the casino finds out about the unusual activities done by your account. And with this, they can do whatever they deem necessary to your account which includes and not limited to suspension, restrictions, and permanently banning. And for me, it isn't really worth the risk. It's better to report the glitch on the system instead of leeching off it because every actions has its consequences you have to weigh.
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August 22, 2023, 03:14:03 PM |
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Of course not, even though I am in great need of money and way too desperate to win, I will never attempt to do that. Thus, nowadays gambling systems are more strict so you are just putting yourself into risk because your account may be banned or restricted and you don't want that to happen right? Just play fair and have fun, because that's what it should be about. But really, is cheating in gambling possible? I only knew about systems having problems and malfunctions but haven't heard of cheating in gambling.
Cheating is regular tempting function in gambling, more often we received anonymous messages in our mails box and these sometimes turns out to be true or false. Apparently I'm not ready to take any drastic decisions that will have repercussions on my accounts probably later, because these online gambling systems have an MO when it comes to banning or restricting an account from certain important features. I've witnessed that scenario once, perhaps my colleague was the victim here, he tried to cheat but couldn't have a piece of his cake, his account got banned instantly after he failed to give proper explanations on how come his personal gambling account got mixed up with fraudulent transaction of funds.
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Yes, I agree with what you say, although to be quite honest, things when it comes to strong vulnerabilities that can be exploited in casinos that are old, the chances of that happening are minimal. However, I don't remember in which casino a vulnerability occurred with a casino and the casino immediately closed that particular slot, causing some players annoyance, because there were players who didn't know that that slot had that bug, and they played and won, Later, it was found out that he became vulnerable and all withdrawals that he had registered to make by the people who played there were cancelled. I don't know how they solved that problem, but it was something big and then they left because that particular slot machine had the The error was from its original provider, I don't know if in those cases, the slot machine providers are the ones that assume the expense, or the error I don't know how they pay for it, the truth is I concentrated on other things and I didn't keep seeing more, I only know that no more was said about that problem, and if no more noise was made about it, it is because things came to a happy end.
Where there is more probabilities that things get out of control with the vlnearbildaides, busg, is when the casinos are new, because there are many expectations, and I really don't know how to do it, maybe there are people who are in charge of running programs for attacking new sites and vulnerabilities that they get, since it is a vulnerability that is mercilessly exploited, so I consider this a bad act, because sometimes things should not be like that, on the contrary, these failures should be reported and they should be These people should be rewarded, in fact, sometimes this happens and it's worse, because they fail to withdraw the money and they don't keep the reward money, just because of bad intentions, so that's another reason why it's not about stealing to companies, that sometimes it is so difficult to emerge in this area.
Vulnerabilities will always occur on every site, especially if it is a business site like a casino, which we know is a billion dollar business, so the team from the casino has to work hard to protect the system from bugs that might come with updates from the developer. But for the old popular casinos to have a team that would check the site including every game, before the casino could add it to their game list so it would be safe for gamblers to play. And even if some vulnerabilities or leaks occur in the casino, the team will immediately fix them to avoid harming the casino. It could have happened because of a problem on the part of the slot machine provider and the casino didn't know about it. If the vulnerability was used by gamblers who did know about it, the slot provider should bear the consequences. Casinos may have a lot of bugs that their team still needs to be able to fix on their own. At the same time, the casinos hold contests for people who can find the bugs and fix them before someone uses them to their advantage. Maybe the casino could hire those who managed to find and fix it as the security team of the casino so that the casino can stay safe from intrusion. It will protect the casino against possible attacks so it will not affect the casino business. And the team that the casino has just hired can continue to carry out their duties to ensure that there are no bugs in the casino and even if there is a bug, they will immediately handle it properly. And casinos can calmly run their business without thinking about vulnerabilities or other bugs that won't be a problem for casinos.
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August 24, 2023, 06:42:48 AM |
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Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?
Of course, this will have a negative impact even though the tricks given work 100%. Later, there will be an impact that can be self-defeating. It's better to play honestly, even though we haven't been able to win big, but we can feel our own satisfaction, the sensation will be more real and tense, of course, it will be entertaining from this tension.
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August 24, 2023, 06:47:20 AM |
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Of course not, even though I am in great need of money and way too desperate to win, I will never attempt to do that. Thus, nowadays gambling systems are more strict so you are just putting yourself into risk because your account may be banned or restricted and you don't want that to happen right? Just play fair and have fun, because that's what it should be about. But really, is cheating in gambling possible? I only knew about systems having problems and malfunctions but haven't heard of cheating in gambling.
Well...! is this possible in traditional online games? Not really, at least not in casinos that are established over time. Perhaps some believe that since this type of cheating occurs in eSports games and there are even specialized pages for each game, they exist for traditional casinos and this is not the case, at least not in online casinos. I agree with you, that no one can cheat in gambling, of course all of this has been tested so it's impossible for someone to cheat in gambling, so far I haven't found this case, but instead the case is more account theft or account hacking, and it is also possible that there is a system crash on the casino site and it is easy to cheat,
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August 24, 2023, 09:06:11 AM |
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Of course not, even though I am in great need of money and way too desperate to win, I will never attempt to do that. Thus, nowadays gambling systems are more strict so you are just putting yourself into risk because your account may be banned or restricted and you don't want that to happen right? Just play fair and have fun, because that's what it should be about. But really, is cheating in gambling possible? I only knew about systems having problems and malfunctions but haven't heard of cheating in gambling.
Well...! is this possible in traditional online games? Not really, at least not in casinos that are established over time. Perhaps some believe that since this type of cheating occurs in eSports games and there are even specialized pages for each game, they exist for traditional casinos and this is not the case, at least not in online casinos. I agree with you, that no one can cheat in gambling, of course all of this has been tested so it's impossible for someone to cheat in gambling, so far I haven't found this case, but instead the case is more account theft or account hacking, and it is also possible that there is a system crash on the casino site and it is easy to cheat, That's right, gambling is about the members' money so there's no way they (the casino) can make room for our to cheat, and it's very unlikely or impossible. They will keep every incoming and outgoing money, all have data and also on the other hand they have to maintain the popularity of their own casino by implementing various strict security so that there is no cheating whatsoever or even that can harm other members. That way, the casino will emphasize again that real gambling is just about luck in it, nothing more than that. It is true that I have also never heard of a case like this, but on the other hand I have heard from someone that he can guarantee his victory in the way he has, but honestly in my opinion it is just nonsense without real evidence. But that's true, maybe there are times when they are negligent in terms of security that could have caused losses.
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August 24, 2023, 09:29:27 AM |
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Of course not, even though I am in great need of money and way too desperate to win, I will never attempt to do that. Thus, nowadays gambling systems are more strict so you are just putting yourself into risk because your account may be banned or restricted and you don't want that to happen right? Just play fair and have fun, because that's what it should be about. But really, is cheating in gambling possible? I only knew about systems having problems and malfunctions but haven't heard of cheating in gambling.
Well...! is this possible in traditional online games? Not really, at least not in casinos that are established over time. Perhaps some believe that since this type of cheating occurs in eSports games and there are even specialized pages for each game, they exist for traditional casinos and this is not the case, at least not in online casinos. I agree with you, that no one can cheat in gambling, of course all of this has been tested so it's impossible for someone to cheat in gambling, so far I haven't found this case, but instead the case is more account theft or account hacking, and it is also possible that there is a system crash on the casino site and it is easy to cheat, A system crash or glitch is most likely the reason why someone can cheat in gambling. It seldom happens, but when it does, a lot of players take advantage of the situation for their own benefit, especially those people who are in gambling for profit as their main purpose. It's not really advisable though to take advantage of an error because eventually, the casino will catch up with what's happening and will be able to pinpoint who abused the system for rewards and bonuses. And when that happens and you became flagged as one of the abusers you might face punishment including but not limited to account restriction that could impact your playing routine and even your winnings the moment they withhold it for security reasons.
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Cheating is regular tempting function in gambling, more often we received anonymous messages in our mails box and these sometimes turns out to be true or false. Apparently I'm not ready to take any drastic decisions that will have repercussions on my accounts probably later, because these online gambling systems have an MO when it comes to banning or restricting an account from certain important features. I've witnessed that scenario once, perhaps my colleague was the victim here, he tried to cheat but couldn't have a piece of his cake, his account got banned instantly after he failed to give proper explanations on how come his personal gambling account got mixed up with fraudulent transaction of funds.
I believe it's not about ethics, it's more about law. I can also go out and sell drugs, or just go at red light every time I drive a car, or I could injure people, I could steal peoples money from their pockets, or I could build a scam company and just steal that way as well. All these could be done but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up with any return at all, it just means that we are doing something illegal. If you are willing to do illegal stuff then you are going to find a lot of stuff you could make money with, you can make and sell drugs too, would you? I wouldn't. I would not do something illegal and make a loss, it just doesn't mean a good result to me, it just means I would go to jail that's it.
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August 25, 2023, 02:47:03 PM |
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Yes, I agree with what you say, although to be quite honest, things when it comes to strong vulnerabilities that can be exploited in casinos that are old, the chances of that happening are minimal. However, I don't remember in which casino a vulnerability occurred with a casino and the casino immediately closed that particular slot, causing some players annoyance, because there were players who didn't know that that slot had that bug, and they played and won, Later, it was found out that he became vulnerable and all withdrawals that he had registered to make by the people who played there were cancelled. I don't know how they solved that problem, but it was something big and then they left because that particular slot machine had the The error was from its original provider, I don't know if in those cases, the slot machine providers are the ones that assume the expense, or the error I don't know how they pay for it, the truth is I concentrated on other things and I didn't keep seeing more, I only know that no more was said about that problem, and if no more noise was made about it, it is because things came to a happy end.
Where there is more probabilities that things get out of control with the vlnearbildaides, busg, is when the casinos are new, because there are many expectations, and I really don't know how to do it, maybe there are people who are in charge of running programs for attacking new sites and vulnerabilities that they get, since it is a vulnerability that is mercilessly exploited, so I consider this a bad act, because sometimes things should not be like that, on the contrary, these failures should be reported and they should be These people should be rewarded, in fact, sometimes this happens and it's worse, because they fail to withdraw the money and they don't keep the reward money, just because of bad intentions, so that's another reason why it's not about stealing to companies, that sometimes it is so difficult to emerge in this area.
Vulnerabilities will always occur on every site, especially if it is a business site like a casino, which we know is a billion dollar business, so the team from the casino has to work hard to protect the system from bugs that might come with updates from the developer. But for the old popular casinos to have a team that would check the site including every game, before the casino could add it to their game list so it would be safe for gamblers to play. And even if some vulnerabilities or leaks occur in the casino, the team will immediately fix them to avoid harming the casino. It could have happened because of a problem on the part of the slot machine provider and the casino didn't know about it. If the vulnerability was used by gamblers who did know about it, the slot provider should bear the consequences. Casinos may have a lot of bugs that their team still needs to be able to fix on their own. At the same time, the casinos hold contests for people who can find the bugs and fix them before someone uses them to their advantage. Maybe the casino could hire those who managed to find and fix it as the security team of the casino so that the casino can stay safe from intrusion. It will protect the casino against possible attacks so it will not affect the casino business. And the team that the casino has just hired can continue to carry out their duties to ensure that there are no bugs in the casino and even if there is a bug, they will immediately handle it properly. And casinos can calmly run their business without thinking about vulnerabilities or other bugs that won't be a problem for casinos. Every establishment, no matter how grand, will have its vulnerabilities, especially in the ever-evolving realm of technology Casinos, with the vast sums of money they handle, indeed need to be on their toes. But let me tell you something - it's not just about the tech team working round the clock. It's also about the relationship they maintain with their slot providers. If a provider messes up, the casino shouldn’t bear the brunt of it, right? I'm with you 100% on that Your idea about contests? Brilliant. It's like an entrepreneurial take on cybersecurity. Find the vulnerabilities, get them fixed, and heck, why not hire the best of the best? Keep the casino safe and give talent a platform. Running a tight ship is the key
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August 26, 2023, 03:55:43 AM |
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Every establishment, no matter how grand, will have its vulnerabilities, especially in the ever-evolving realm of technology
Casinos, with the vast sums of money they handle, indeed need to be on their toes. But let me tell you something - it's not just about the tech team working round the clock. It's also about the relationship they maintain with their slot providers. If a provider messes up, the casino shouldn’t bear the brunt of it, right? I'm with you 100% on that
Your idea about contests? Brilliant. It's like an entrepreneurial take on cybersecurity. Find the vulnerabilities, get them fixed, and heck, why not hire the best of the best? Keep the casino safe and give talent a platform. Running a tight ship is the key
That's absolutely true because no technology is perfect, so large companies must always monitor their security systems through their security team. Especially if it is a casino that has become a billion dollar business, the security team from each casino will always ensure that the casino's security is safe. And if there is an error from the slot provider, the casino will contact the slot provider to discuss the problem. And it shouldn't be the casino's responsibility if it's really the fault of the slot provider unless the error is in the casino. From that contest, the casino can find some experts in the cyber security field so that the casino can hire them to be added to the security team. That will obviously strengthen the casino security team in protecting casino security.
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August 26, 2023, 05:15:21 AM |
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Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?
Of course, this will have a negative impact even though the tricks given work 100%. Later, there will be an impact that can be self-defeating. It's better to play honestly, even though we haven't been able to win big, but we can feel our own satisfaction, the sensation will be more real and tense, of course, it will be entertaining from this tension. I agree with you, that people who play gambling by playing honestly will feel more memorable even though the results will win or lose later, sometimes people who play fraudulent gambling only think about winning and don't want to lose in this case. The problem is, there are times when someone first plays gambling by cheating and wins on the same day, that person will repeat it at a later date because it will become an early habit for him. And if the habit of playing gambling in a fraudulent way is not controlled then one day big problems will occur soon, so it would be nice if you play gambling honestly and be disciplined in the rules of gambling.
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August 26, 2023, 09:02:03 AM |
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Closest I would come to cheating is maybe along the lines of card counting but to me that isnt cheating its just using your brains. I dont count that any different to calculating your odds in your head for a poker hand vs your opponents, it has to be legitimate if people can do it naturally almost subconsciously and be aware when is the best time to bet bigger etc. Obviously Im not that clever to do it without alot of effort but I dont consider it cheating if some can.
Counting cards is not cheating. I'm not sure if you can use it these days anywhere to your advantage, but it's definitely not cheating. Apart from in movies, are there modern card counters these days? It's been always a mystery to me, to what extent that whole card counting thing was exaggerated by books, movies and media. Isn't it advantageous to casinos so that people were thinking they can beat the house?
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