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Question: 2023/24 Season Champion?  (Voting closed: September 22, 2023, 09:57:02 AM)
Beşiktaş - 8 (36.4%)
Fenerbahçe - 5 (22.7%)
Galatasaray - 9 (40.9%)
Trabzonspor - 0 (0%)
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October 22, 2023, 08:25:33 AM
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Judging by the football played, Beşiktaş could have at least drawn yesterday's derby, but an early red card and a forced goalkeeper change upset all plans. We can say that Beşiktaş withstood Galatasaray well despite being down to ten men because Galatasaray didn't play very well in the derby match, even though they had a lot of chances, they couldn't capitalize on them and couldn't make up the difference. It's a sad result for Beşiktaş, as I said, they could have left with at least a draw and this draw could have been really important for them.

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October 22, 2023, 03:35:47 PM
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However I have some worries about what Galatasaray can do against Bayern Munich two days later.   Sad   I said that it was quite one-sided against Besiktas but Galatasaray were still unable to find goals comfortably. Their wasting so many chances made me worried about their next Champions League match.

If they continue to show the same performance then a bad loss looks inevitable. Because you need to be as efficient as possible against one of the best European teams like Bayern Munich.

In addition Icardi has got injured due to a challenge during the Besiktas match. He might miss the Bayern Munich match according to news.  Sad  If he doesn't play it would be much more difficult for them to score a goal.
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October 22, 2023, 04:02:08 PM
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Judging by the football played, Beşiktaş could have at least drawn yesterday's derby, but an early red card and a forced goalkeeper change upset all plans. We can say that Beşiktaş withstood Galatasaray well despite being down to ten men because Galatasaray didn't play very well in the derby match, even though they had a lot of chances, they couldn't capitalize on them and couldn't make up the difference. It's a sad result for Beşiktaş, as I said, they could have left with at least a draw and this draw could have been really important for them.
I think manager change benefits Beşiktaş a lot. Şenol Güneş had a bit of outdated strategy for football of 2020s. Burak Yılmaz managing team is not bad idea as we have similar formula with Nuri Şahin and Antalyaspor and it sort of works. Newbie managers tend to be lot more fair to hardworking football players. In modern football physical is lot more important than technique as most of teams play match as its endless adventure. (Especially premier league teams have high tempo). I think Beşiktaş will soon get lot better than yesterday.
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October 22, 2023, 04:06:52 PM
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However I have some worries about what Galatasaray can do against Bayern Munich two days later.   Sad   I said that it was quite one-sided against Besiktas but Galatasaray were still unable to find goals comfortably. Their wasting so many chances made me worried about their next Champions League match.

If they continue to show the same performance then a bad loss looks inevitable. Because you need to be as efficient as possible against one of the best European teams like Bayern Munich.

In addition Icardi has got injured due to a challenge during the Besiktas match. He might miss the Bayern Munich match according to news.  Sad  If he doesn't play it would be much more difficult for them to score a goal.

Well Bayern Munchen is not Besiktash so you should not get your hopes high for a good performance although I think Galatasaray so far has impressed everyone in the Champions League.It will be a difficult encounter just a couple of days from now and I don't know what to think about it,a draw would be an awesome result for Galatasaray no matter that they play at home they are playing against one of the best teams of Europe.

As for the Turkish Superlig they are doing great and it appears no team is able to stand in their way,I think this will be until the end of this season as I don't see any power from Besiktash which was beaten today and the same from Fenerbahce.

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October 22, 2023, 04:10:43 PM
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Judging by the football played, Beşiktaş could have at least drawn yesterday's derby, but an early red card and a forced goalkeeper change upset all plans. We can say that Beşiktaş withstood Galatasaray well despite being down to ten men because Galatasaray didn't play very well in the derby match, even though they had a lot of chances, they couldn't capitalize on them and couldn't make up the difference. It's a sad result for Beşiktaş, as I said, they could have left with at least a draw and this draw could have been really important for them.
After Besiktas goalkeeper Günok received a red card in the 30th minute of the game while his team was already one goal down, I thought Galatasaray were gonna riot against their derby rivals. Besiktas really surprised me with their performance in that game and even drew level in the 69th minute through Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain strike.
Mauro Icardi had to score in the 82nd minute to break Besiktas resilience and hand Galatasaray a win in that very important game. Galatasaray of a truth won that game but Besiktas I think should be very proud of their performance in that game

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October 22, 2023, 04:13:25 PM
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Judging by the football played, Beşiktaş could have at least drawn yesterday's derby, but an early red card and a forced goalkeeper change upset all plans. We can say that Beşiktaş withstood Galatasaray well despite being down to ten men because Galatasaray didn't play very well in the derby match, even though they had a lot of chances, they couldn't capitalize on them and couldn't make up the difference. It's a sad result for Beşiktaş, as I said, they could have left with at least a draw and this draw could have been really important for them.
After Besiktas goalkeeper Günok received a red card in the 30th minute of the game while his team was already one goal down, I thought Galatasaray were gonna riot against their derby rivals. Besiktas really surprised me with their performance in that game and even drew level in the 69th minute through Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain strike.
Mauro Icardi had to score in the 82nd minute to break Besiktas resilience and hand Galatasaray a win in that very important game. Galatasaray of a truth won that game but Besiktas I think should be very proud of their performance in that game

Yes, this match was hard for Besiktas. And they got the red card in the 30th minute, So they had to play almost an hour with having one man less. But still, they were able to perform pretty well until the second goal was scored by Galatasaray. If not for that penalty on the 82nd minute, I think they could have walked away with one point from this match. But it would still have been pretty hard because Galatasaray was really on fire in this match. They were launching attack one after another. Only if Besiktas could hold on for another 10 minutes, they could have walked away with one point from this match.

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October 22, 2023, 05:17:01 PM
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Big win for Galatasaray in the result and for the tournament, but not so good in terms of performance, you cant strugled so much against a team with one men less. Aside of that how many penalties have Galatasaray this season? man every game they receive one.

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October 22, 2023, 05:56:42 PM
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Big win for Galatasaray in the result and for the tournament, but not so good in terms of performance, you cant strugled so much against a team with one men less.

After Beşiktaş were reduced to 10 men due to a red card, Galatasaray players became complacent. If this match had been played 11 v 11, Galatasaray would have performed better. Also, because of the break in the league matches due to the national matches, we lost our tempo and I think this had a negative effect on Galatasaray. So Galatasaray didn't play very well. I agree with this criticism, but they still managed to win the match. I think the important thing was to win. And Galatasaray did that. The match against Bayern Munich is an important match for us. The players may not have been able to concentrate on this game because their minds were on that game. In the end, winning was more important than anything else. When you win, you get the same points whether you play well or badly.

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Big win for Galatasaray in the result and for the tournament, but not so good in terms of performance, you cant strugled so much against a team with one men less. Aside of that how many penalties have Galatasaray this season? man every game they receive one.

You made a correct observation, Galatasaray actually uses a penalty kick in almost every match. It would be a little unfair if we said it was only due to the referees. Galatasaray has a very good offensive line and is currently one of the teams that score the most goals. It would not be wrong to say that in some matches they scored extra goals thanks to the referees' decisions Smiley

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October 22, 2023, 07:59:54 PM
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I think manager change benefits Beşiktaş a lot. Şenol Güneş had a bit of outdated strategy for football of 2020s. Burak Yılmaz managing team is not bad idea as we have similar formula with Nuri Şahin and Antalyaspor and it sort of works. Newbie managers tend to be lot more fair to hardworking football players. In modern football physical is lot more important than technique as most of teams play match as its endless adventure. (Especially premier league teams have high tempo). I think Beşiktaş will soon get lot better than yesterday.
Beşiktaş can maybe improve its football with Burak yılmaz.You say that Şenol Güneş can't keep up with the new fashion football, but I think Şenol Güneş still manages the team well.The problem in the team was caused by the management, but the bill was cut to the technical director.I think it's not fair to compare Nuri Şahin and Burak yılmaz.Nuri Şahin is about to become a technical man with more experience and experience.

After Besiktas goalkeeper Günok received a red card in the 30th minute of the game while his team was already one goal down, I thought Galatasaray were gonna riot against their derby rivals. Besiktas really surprised me with their performance in that game and even drew level in the 69th minute through Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain strike.
Mauro Icardi had to score in the 82nd minute to break Besiktas resilience and hand Galatasaray a win in that very important game. Galatasaray of a truth won that game but Besiktas I think should be very proud of their performance in that game
Beşiktaş's shortage of men prevented them from turning the game around.Nevertheless, we can say that they were close to getting 1 point with the football they played and the performance they showed when they were down to 10 men.Beşiktaş might have had the chance to turn the game in their favor in the second half if they had not been down to 10 men.It was an unfortunate red card for Mert Günok.The goalkeeper, who has not seen a red card for many years, saw the first red card in his career.

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October 22, 2023, 08:04:16 PM
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Big win for Galatasaray in the result and for the tournament, but not so good in terms of performance, you cant strugled so much against a team with one men less. Aside of that how many penalties have Galatasaray this season? man every game they receive one.
You made a correct observation, Galatasaray actually uses a penalty kick in almost every match. It would be a little unfair if we said it was only due to the referees. Galatasaray has a very good offensive line and is currently one of the teams that score the most goals. It would not be wrong to say that in some matches they scored extra goals thanks to the referees' decisions Smiley
Here I have to be agreed about few points with now they need to work on improvement in quality instead of going for the poor tactics which are surely going to hurt them in UEFA games in this game they have nearly 10 shots on goal but still manage nothing which is surely embarrassing for them now they have big game against Bayern Munich which is surely a big test for them and here they need to give their best instead of going for the penalties which are surely not going to happen in presence of neutral referee.

Besiktas having early red-card which was surely helpful for them, but they are unable to take any advantage with having second goal through penalty as they have offensive they surely can do the good number of goals without the help of the referee and this could be improved the confidence level of players as well.

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October 22, 2023, 09:38:38 PM
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We watched a very bad derby yesterday, I didn't enjoy it. I was expecting a better game.
Galatasaray was very bad, we barely won 2-1. Icardi showed his quality again.
Beşiktaş played better with 10 players.


Fenerbahçe won 4-2, Fenerbahçe conceded both goals easily.
In the second goal, Samet made the wrong pass and they conceded a goal.

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Beşiktaş can maybe improve its football with Burak yılmaz.You say that Şenol Güneş can't keep up with the new fashion football, but I think Şenol Güneş still manages the team well.The problem in the team was caused by the management, but the bill was cut to the technical director.I think it's not fair to compare Nuri Şahin and Burak yılmaz.Nuri Şahin is about to become a technical man with more experience and experience.

It's not easy for such an inexperienced coach to manage a big team. He shouldn't forget that he is there temporarily. He'll lose credit by making simple mistakes. He needs to start this job by coaching Anatolian teams. For now, he is managing for a short period, but Beşiktaş cannot work with Burak Yılmaz in its long-term planning. While many successful managers are free in the market, they will definitely bring someone in after the election. A Turkish manager is a must for our teams. Foreigners cannot become champions here.

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October 23, 2023, 02:15:48 PM
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Judging by the football played, Beşiktaş could have at least drawn yesterday's derby, but an early red card and a forced goalkeeper change upset all plans. We can say that Beşiktaş withstood Galatasaray well despite being down to ten men because Galatasaray didn't play very well in the derby match, even though they had a lot of chances, they couldn't capitalize on them and couldn't make up the difference. It's a sad result for Beşiktaş, as I said, they could have left with at least a draw and this draw could have been really important for them.
I think manager change benefits Beşiktaş a lot. Şenol Güneş had a bit of outdated strategy for football of 2020s. Burak Yılmaz managing team is not bad idea as we have similar formula with Nuri Şahin and Antalyaspor and it sort of works. Newbie managers tend to be lot more fair to hardworking football players. In modern football physical is lot more important than technique as most of teams play match as its endless adventure. (Especially premier league teams have high tempo). I think Beşiktaş will soon get lot better than yesterday.
I'm afraid you are right. I want to like Şenol Güneş and I wish he could be successful in Beşiktaş but he obviously wasn't. He couldn't affect the game with substitutions good enough. He was always late. Even thought there is an obvious player who is having a terrible day, Şenol Güneş usually didn't substitute until the very late minutes. Burak Yılmaz is super inexperience as a coach but he was not bad for his first games. Even better than other coaches from the past, especially the non-turkish coaches. It is very questionable if he can overcome this much of a challenge as a coach of Big 3. But Beşiktaş was surprisingly better than almost everyone's expectations.

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October 23, 2023, 02:56:31 PM
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Beşiktaş was surprisingly better than almost everyone's expectations.

I disagree on this issue, if you ask why, because Beşiktaş was not good, Galatasaray was very bad. If Galatasaray had played well, this game would have ended very differently. I mean, Beşiktaş looked good because Galatasaray was bad.

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October 23, 2023, 03:32:48 PM
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Icardi's performance wasn't surprising as usual. He made a critical contribution to Galatasaray with 2 goals. He was in quite many goal chances as well. He is really the key player for Galatasaray this season as he has scored the half of their goals in number so far. It was quite a one-sided match most of the time.

Besiktas were just focused on benefiting from their numbered goal chances and they were quite good at it. Rosier did his best and he was nearly scoring the equalizer if he didn't miss the ball by a small margin. The referee's decisions are also going to be discussed a lot as it seems.  Grin  Some believe those decisions were right while some say the opposite.

I actually want to talk about the next match of Galatasaray, which is against Bayern Munich. I am pretty confident that Galatasaray will probably not be able to win that match. I think a draw is not going to be a bad score for them. Of course, depending on the situation they will go for the win. But they will have to be careful because Bayern Munich is performing really well. I do not want anyone to get any wrong idea about them just because they are not the first team on the table. And right now they have a deadly striker, Harry Kane. Galatasaray will have to be careful, even though they are in very good form.

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October 23, 2023, 03:33:00 PM
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Galatasaray won the derby. Obviously, there was a red card in the derby, as I expected, but it was an early red card that broke the match early. Mert Günok got a very unnecessary red card which led to an early break for Beşiktaş. Icardi's goal gave Galatasaray a 1-0 lead and Galatasaray managed to close the first half 1-0 ahead. In the second half, Besiktas continued to press and equalized in the 69th minute through Chamberlain. In the 82nd minute Icardi scored from the penalty spot. I must say that Galatasaray dominated the match in terms of possession but both teams were equal in terms of possession.
Galatasaray was lucky to win the match even though the lead was only thanks to penalty.
Besiktas is pretty great team here and they have also dominated the league for several seasons even in the 2020/21 season Besiktas were able to become champions of the Turkish Super League.
And Galatasaray victory in this match was due to nothing other than the penalty they received.

But Mauro Icardi really draw attention.
Even though this player from Argentina is 30 years old he can play like great young player.
I don't know formerly why Inter and PSG just let him go and the presence of Mauro Icardi really provides a big advantage for Galatasaray.

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October 23, 2023, 05:56:25 PM
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Beşiktaş can maybe improve its football with Burak yılmaz.You say that Şenol Güneş can't keep up with the new fashion football, but I think Şenol Güneş still manages the team well.The problem in the team was caused by the management, but the bill was cut to the technical director.I think it's not fair to compare Nuri Şahin and Burak yılmaz.Nuri Şahin is about to become a technical man with more experience and experience.

It's not easy for such an inexperienced coach to manage a big team. He shouldn't forget that he is there temporarily. He'll lose credit by making simple mistakes. He needs to start this job by coaching Anatolian teams. For now, he is managing for a short period, but Beşiktaş cannot work with Burak Yılmaz in its long-term planning. While many successful managers are free in the market, they will definitely bring someone in after the election. A Turkish manager is a must for our teams. Foreigners cannot become champions here.

He has played for big teams and worked with good coaches. He is aware of many techniques in many teams but I have my doubts about his ability to manage a big team. The management who left this team without a manager even before the middle of the league will be to blame rather than simple mistakes. I am not a Beşiktaş fan but to tell the truth, the blame lies with the management, not Şenol Güneş. The management sent Şenol Güneş away without resigning and the team was left under Burak Yılmaz. I don't know if they will continue with him as technical director, but I can say that Igor Tudor's name is being mentioned again.

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October 23, 2023, 06:58:21 PM
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Fenerbahçe has made the best start to this season in recent years. With his victory, he broke his own record with 9 wins out of 9 in the league. Previously, Daum had made 8 out of 8 when he was a coach.
He scored 4 goals against Hatayspor, but found positions that could have scored more. The penalty position, which was canceled due to offside, became a matter of discussion. Even though Galatasaray is playing bad football right now, it knows how to win. Icardi's injury in the last match demoralized the team. Icardi has bleeding and strain on his foot. It is unclear whether he will play in the Bayer Munich match.
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October 23, 2023, 09:14:59 PM
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Galatasaray won the derby. Obviously, there was a red card in the derby, as I expected, but it was an early red card that broke the match early. Mert Günok got a very unnecessary red card which led to an early break for Beşiktaş. Icardi's goal gave Galatasaray a 1-0 lead and Galatasaray managed to close the first half 1-0 ahead. In the second half, Besiktas continued to press and equalized in the 69th minute through Chamberlain. In the 82nd minute Icardi scored from the penalty spot. I must say that Galatasaray dominated the match in terms of possession but both teams were equal in terms of possession.
Galatasaray was lucky to win the match even though the lead was only thanks to penalty.
Besiktas is pretty great team here and they have also dominated the league for several seasons even in the 2020/21 season Besiktas were able to become champions of the Turkish Super League.
And Galatasaray victory in this match was due to nothing other than the penalty they received.

But Mauro Icardi really draw attention.
Even though this player from Argentina is 30 years old he can play like great young player.
I don't know formerly why Inter and PSG just let him go and the presence of Mauro Icardi really provides a big advantage for Galatasaray.
Mauro Icardi has really become a goal machine since his transfer to Galatasaray. He can score goals with ease and has managed to win his team most of the matches so far. Thanks to him they got the 3 points in this derby as well. If it wasn't for him, maybe they would have had a big problem in front of goal until now. Now there is talk that his injury will last for 2 weeks. If he doesn't play for 2 weeks, Galatasaray will have problems in front of goal.

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