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Question: 2023/24 Season Champion?  (Voting closed: September 22, 2023, 09:57:02 AM)
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November 04, 2023, 08:44:42 PM
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Fenerbahce will be looking to make it 11/11 in the league tonight. I don't expect them to have much trouble against Trabzonspor but this time goalkeeper Livakovic might have a lot of work to do. The goalkeeper will have a lot of work to do after the players in the defensive line are struggling with injuries, but he is a really good goalkeeper and being the goalkeeper of Croatia, the third in the world, you can't help but trust him.

Dont aged well, sorry mate. But what a game we just have, with a huge win of Tranzborsport and with a high voltage added time, Fenerbache trying with one men less to make a draw, and ended up allowing another goal and canceled by the referee.

Anyways its good for the league to see them losing some ponts after all.

Fenerbahçe couldn't produce anything in the first half and it was almost as if they were far away from the game. Fenerbahçe's classic game and tactical approach was almost non existent in match of Trabzonspor. Fenerbahçe lacked their ideal stopper and the absence of Fred had a bad effect on the team. However, it is useful to open a parenthesis here. Because the technical committee knew about this situation for a week and could have taken precautions accordingly.
If Fenerbahçe loses in derbies this year as it did last year, it will create a negative situation on the way to the championship. Trabzonspor started the game with their ideal line-up, but not quite at the level they should have been, but they were stronger and had a more clearer distribution of tasks, especially in the first half. After Trabzonspor scored surprise goals, they started to spend time among themselves. For Fenerbahce, not playing with the ideal squad may be one of the reasons for the defeat but it cannot be an excuse.

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November 04, 2023, 08:51:08 PM
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Today we saw how the much-praised Fenerbahçe was doomed at home. Everyone watched how a bubble was actually tried to be created. The result of this match hit like a slap to those who tried to design the league with 2 teams. Even though they tried to stay in the match by scoring 2 penalties, they couldn't score any goals in the ongoing game and didn't even get 1 point from the match. Even in a bad season, Trabzonspor can beat Fenerbahçe away. This shows that the 2-team league design project has collapsed. Even if they want to, they will not be able to make the Turkish league like the Spanish league.

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November 04, 2023, 10:44:14 PM
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Fenerbahce will be looking to make it 11/11 in the league tonight. I don't expect them to have much trouble against Trabzonspor but this time goalkeeper Livakovic might have a lot of work to do. The goalkeeper will have a lot of work to do after the players in the defensive line are struggling with injuries, but he is a really good goalkeeper and being the goalkeeper of Croatia, the third in the world, you can't help but trust him.

Dont aged well, sorry mate. But what a game we just have, with a huge win of Tranzborsport and with a high voltage added time, Fenerbache trying with one men less to make a draw, and ended up allowing another goal and canceled by the referee.

Anyways its good for the league to see them losing some ponts after all.
The lack of defenders was very evident in this match. Samet, who hasn't played for a long time, and Oosterwolde, who normally plays as a left back, were both injured and unfortunately Ismail Kartal had to start with such a squad. This was perhaps the worst possible scenario in this match and Samet was really at fault for all three goals and to be honest I think Samet was the only reason why Fenerbahce lost. It was not Samet but the lack of a stopper that cost Fenerbahce this match. Livakovic's poor performance was actually the salt of the earth. We have a world number three goalkeeper in our goal and obviously you expect a good performance but today he was really not good and he took almost every shot. The lack of defenders and a bad goalkeeper were the main reasons for losing this game. Fred's absence was also clearly felt in this match. Miha Zajc is not a quality number 8 who can play in this team. Additions to this position and to the stopper seem to be a must in the interim transfer window. In fact, I can say that this was a game in which İsmail Kartal also failed because I think it would have been better to play Bartuğ instead of Crespo. Although Bartuğ has performed really well in the games he has played so far, in this match he could have come on in the second half instead of a player with a yellow card. not to mention the referee's decisions. I can clearly say that he managed a very bad match, there were some obvious wrong decisions for both sides.

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November 04, 2023, 11:18:42 PM
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Fenerbahce will be looking to make it 11/11 in the league tonight. I don't expect them to have much trouble against Trabzonspor but this time goalkeeper Livakovic might have a lot of work to do. The goalkeeper will have a lot of work to do after the players in the defensive line are struggling with injuries, but he is a really good goalkeeper and being the goalkeeper of Croatia, the third in the world, you can't help but trust him.

Dont aged well, sorry mate. But what a game we just have, with a huge win of Tranzborsport and with a high voltage added time, Fenerbache trying with one men less to make a draw, and ended up allowing another goal and canceled by the referee.

Anyways its good for the league to see them losing some ponts after all.

Fenerbahçe couldn't produce anything in the first half and it was almost as if they were far away from the game. Fenerbahçe's classic game and tactical approach was almost non existent in match of Trabzonspor. Fenerbahçe lacked their ideal stopper and the absence of Fred had a bad effect on the team. However, it is useful to open a parenthesis here. Because the technical committee knew about this situation for a week and could have taken precautions accordingly.
If Fenerbahçe loses in derbies this year as it did last year, it will create a negative situation on the way to the championship. Trabzonspor started the game with their ideal line-up, but not quite at the level they should have been, but they were stronger and had a more clearer distribution of tasks, especially in the first half. After Trabzonspor scored surprise goals, they started to spend time among themselves. For Fenerbahce, not playing with the ideal squad may be one of the reasons for the defeat but it cannot be an excuse.
For the first time this season, Fenerbahce dropped points in the league after they were beaten by Trabzonspor. The last season runner's up had previously won their first 10 matches before the game but could not continue their perfect start to the new season.
Galatasaray who yesterday defeated  Kisimpasa will definitely be happy with the result as it now allows them to occupy the top spot in the league table though with just one point ahead of second placed Fenerbahce

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November 04, 2023, 11:38:07 PM
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Income is low in the league because of the exchange rate. Payments are made in Euros in UCL, but earnings in the league are in TL.
Abdülkerim can be sold for good money, but his place will be difficult to replace.

Nelsson played in the starting 11 in tonight's game. We need to sell it for good money. He's a good player, but Sanchez is much better.

We won the game 2-1 tonight, the unbeaten streak continues in the league.

I have never thought about soccer and salaries in Turkey from this angle, but you are very correct! I checked the inflation rates and they keep exploding and if someone signed a contract with (converted) 5 million euros annually, those 5 million euros are now worth less than 2.5 million euros. That is insane and this must be one consideration that players have to factor in when they sign contracts in countries with economically unstable conditions.

@MK-74 are you sure that the contracts are hard-based on TL? Or do you think that especially for European players, the player's management would negotiate a contract that states the salary in euros? Because otherwise what you described would have severe financial consequences.

But back to soccer, it must have been a while since we had such a fierce competition at the top between two clubs. Both Gala and Fener are on fire.

Let me explain it exactly this way.

Players earn based on Euros.
Super league payments are TL.
Teams pay players in EURO. So the earnings are in TL but the payments are in EURO.
Teams earn EURO only from the European League. I hope I explained it correctly. Smiley

Fenerbahçe's series ended tonight. They will play against Adanademirspor next week and it will be tough in this game.

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November 05, 2023, 11:06:33 AM
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Leaving aside the referee and his management, Fenerbahce didn't really play well in the match.Although they always managed to keep the ball at their feet, they struggled to get to the goal, that is to say to shoot at the goal.Every ball came back to the defender and they had to keep trying.In the first half it was clearly a penalty against Szymanski and all the commentators and former referees said that it was a penalty according to the IFAB rule.Of course we can't forget this match because of the referee's bad management.These things happen so that mistakes can be learned from.

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November 05, 2023, 12:49:57 PM
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Super League continues today with 4 matches. The first match was played between Sivasspor and Adana Demirspor at 13:30 and ended in a 1-1 draw. 15 minutes later, there will be two more matches between Başakşehir-Ankaragücü and Konyaspor-Karagümrük. At 7pm, there will be another match between Antalyaspor vs Besiktas. If Beşiktaş wins this match, they will be in 3rd place with 22 points and I hope they win. But they are playing really badly this year.
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November 05, 2023, 01:01:57 PM
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Galatasaray supporters must be very happy now after the result of the Fenerbahce - Trabzonspor match. I didn't expect such result in this match truthfully. I thought it would be another comfortable win for Fenerbahce. Because you know how poorly Trabzonspor were playing before this match. Even after bringing back Abdullah Avci they were still not able to improve much.

But we watched a very different team in this tough match. Despite its being one of the toughest fixtures for Trabzonspor they still managed to shock most people.

I mean Trabzonspor didn't even have any dominance in terms of general performance. But they were very good at benefiting from their numbered goal chances.  Smiley

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November 05, 2023, 01:02:21 PM
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Leaving aside the referee and his management, Fenerbahce didn't really play well in the match.Although they always managed to keep the ball at their feet, they struggled to get to the goal, that is to say to shoot at the goal.Every ball came back to the defender and they had to keep trying.In the first half it was clearly a penalty against Szymanski and all the commentators and former referees said that it was a penalty according to the IFAB rule.Of course we can't forget this match because of the referee's bad management.These things happen so that mistakes can be learned from.
Unexpected defeat recorded by Sarı Kanaryalar, know the main reason they lost the match contest? They underestimate their opposition without having second thought of playing under pressure. There's no need to call for alarm, because it's not easy to officiate a game fulltime in a fair play without making certain mistakes. Fenerbahçe fans should reduced their complaints towards Kucok Zorbay for the purpose of the referee to secure his job. Fenerbahçe did play well but they just got unlucky against Trabzonspor at Şükrü Saracoĝlu Stadı. Losing 3-2 on the scoresheet despite full dominance in both halves of the game.

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November 05, 2023, 05:07:53 PM
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Even though Beşiktaş, playing with 7 Turkish players, had difficulty in creating goal positions, they scored a goal with Cenk Tosun at the last minute and the preparation of the goal was very good. Antalyaspor has no impact on the match. They couldn't get into a goal position, they couldn't shoot. They only had one shot that didn't find the target in the first half. On the other hand, Beşiktaş took 8 shots, two of which were on target and one was a goal. Beşiktaş should have been more productive, but now they have unlocked the defense and Antalyaspor will have to take more risks in the second half. Beşiktaş can get into a goal position easier. They need to score the second goal in the match and win the match. There are Rebic and Muleka on the bench. Rosier looks like he could play for 45 minutes. Injuries affected the squad, but as it is, this squad should be enough to win the match.

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November 05, 2023, 05:56:25 PM
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I didn't think Fenerbahçe would lose points this week. I don't like Trabzonspor's game this year, I never thought they would win the match against such a big opponent. But last night, Fenerbahçe gave 3 points to its opponent, they could not manage to score other than the penalty.
Galatasaray fans were the most happy about this situation, and Galatasaray took over the leadership seat, where there was such a big conflict, for a week Smiley

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November 05, 2023, 06:12:34 PM
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Leaving aside the referee and his management, Fenerbahce didn't really play well in the match.Although they always managed to keep the ball at their feet, they struggled to get to the goal, that is to say to shoot at the goal.Every ball came back to the defender and they had to keep trying.In the first half it was clearly a penalty against Szymanski and all the commentators and former referees said that it was a penalty according to the IFAB rule.Of course we can't forget this match because of the referee's bad management.These things happen so that mistakes can be learned from.
Unexpected defeat recorded by Sarı Kanaryalar, know the main reason they lost the match contest? They underestimate their opposition without having second thought of playing under pressure. There's no need to call for alarm, because it's not easy to officiate a game fulltime in a fair play without making certain mistakes. Fenerbahçe fans should reduced their complaints towards Kucok Zorbay for the purpose of the referee to secure his job. Fenerbahçe did play well but they just got unlucky against Trabzonspor at Şükrü Saracoĝlu Stadı. Losing 3-2 on the scoresheet despite full dominance in both halves of the game.
I don't think they underestimated their opponents. The lack of the main players in the team disrupted the balance in the team. I can say that Fred had an incredible impact on the team. The stoppers weren't very good either, in fact one player played as a fullback but he played as a stopper. Miha Zajc, who replaced Fred, had a terrible game and goals were conceded because of him and Oostorwolde and Samet at the back.
By the way, Fenerbahce didn't play well but in some positions most of the Trabzonspor players should have been red carded.

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Besiktas dropping points again and again, i dont know why they lose so many points so early in the tournament, i was expecting to see them at least in a solid third position but seems like not.

Galatasaray rettook the leadership and adana took over the third position.

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November 05, 2023, 08:11:40 PM
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I wasn't expecting Fenerbahçe to lose this match to be honest because I believe Trabzonspor wasn't that good this season at all. But looks like Fenerbahçe is tired now. Its pretty normal considering they won numerous matches. All teams will lose one day. It benefited Galatasaray a lot. Now Galatasaray hit first place which they deserved. On the other hand Beşiktaş is still terribly losing matches and points.
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November 05, 2023, 08:49:18 PM
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Beşiktaş didn't see any benefit from going into the half with a 1-0 advantage when they conceded a goal in the 25th second of the second half. It was even a minus, Antalyaspor started the second half very well with the morale of the equalizing goal. They scored 3 goals in 12 minutes and made a completely different start in the second half of the match where they couldn't find any positions in the first half. In the first half, Beşiktaş had a clear penalty that wasn't awarded. We are used to these now, we are not given a penalty every match. Unfortunately, as long as there are these referees in the league, the league's viewing rates will continue to fluctuate. The brand value of the league has dropped to zero.
Despite everything, there is no excuse for conceding 3 goals in 12 minutes. When Beşiktaş concedes a goal, they break away from the game very quickly. Points were lost because of this mental weakness. There was hope with Muleka's goal, but the third goal didn't come. The match shouldn't have come to this in the first place. With this loss of points, we can say that there is no claim left in the league. It's time to finish the league in 3rd place and prepare for the next season with a good rebuilding.

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November 05, 2023, 09:14:15 PM
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There is absolutely no explanation for conceding 3 goals in 12 minutes.
Yes, there is a penalty that was not given but conceding 3 goals is inexplicable.
Beşiktaş is playing really badly and they have to suffer the consequences.

They have a Europa League game on Thursday but that is not important for them anymore.
They should definitely focus on the Süper League.

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November 06, 2023, 12:42:12 PM
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Beşiktaş didn't see any benefit from going into the half with a 1-0 advantage when they conceded a goal in the 25th second of the second half. It was even a minus, Antalyaspor started the second half very well with the morale of the equalizing goal. They scored 3 goals in 12 minutes and made a completely different start in the second half of the match where they couldn't find any positions in the first half. In the first half, Beşiktaş had a clear penalty that wasn't awarded. We are used to these now, we are not given a penalty every match. Unfortunately, as long as there are these referees in the league, the league's viewing rates will continue to fluctuate. The brand value of the league has dropped to zero.
Despite everything, there is no excuse for conceding 3 goals in 12 minutes. When Beşiktaş concedes a goal, they break away from the game very quickly. Points were lost because of this mental weakness. There was hope with Muleka's goal, but the third goal didn't come. The match shouldn't have come to this in the first place. With this loss of points, we can say that there is no claim left in the league. It's time to finish the league in 3rd place and prepare for the next season with a good rebuilding.
It is kind of a rumour but even Burak Yilmaz talked about it, the things happened during the half time break might be the reason. The fight and all the trouble within the club. Things are utterly devastating for Beşiktaş. I heard that the players who will play in the African Cup said 'they will not play, they will just rest. Because they are already out of the championship race'. This is unbelievable. It all starts from the club president. This is the worst president of Beşiktaş's history. With the Africa Cup of Nations coming soon, things will not be good for Beşiktaş definitely in my opinion. The coach Burak Yilmaz, might have a good heart, but he also was just playing pro football. A club like Beşiktaş definitely needs a proper coach.

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November 06, 2023, 02:18:46 PM
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Besiktas dropping points again and again, i dont know why they lose so many points so early in the tournament, i was expecting to see them at least in a solid third position but seems like not.

Galatasaray rettook the leadership and adana took over the third position.

Beşiktaş have never really been on the same level as Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe. They won league titles in seasons when Galatasaray and Fenerbahce were very bad. That's why you have to accept their performance as normal. In a season when Galatasaray and Fenerbahce are very good, they don't stand a chance.

I wasn't expecting Fenerbahçe to lose this match to be honest because I believe Trabzonspor wasn't that good this season at all. But looks like Fenerbahçe is tired now. Its pretty normal considering they won numerous matches. All teams will lose one day. It benefited Galatasaray a lot. Now Galatasaray hit first place which they deserved. On the other hand Beşiktaş is still terribly losing matches and points.

Fenerbahçe had won all 10 games in the league and had a psychological advantage. Now we have seen that they are not gods. Now Galatasaray are on top. Now Galatasaray have the psychological advantage.

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November 06, 2023, 03:00:26 PM
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It is interesting that they conceded so many goals in such a short time, Beşiktaş needs to recover as soon as possible. If they continue to play like this, we will not see them succeed. Of course, the referees have a great influence on the match, but after the team scores a goal, they lose their temper and their morale drops greatly. They need to prevent this

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November 06, 2023, 03:12:14 PM
 #1020

It is interesting that they conceded so many goals in such a short time, Beşiktaş needs to recover as soon as possible. If they continue to play like this, we will not see them succeed. Of course, the referees have a great influence on the match, but after the team scores a goal, they lose their temper and their morale drops greatly. They need to prevent this
The truth of the matter is that Besiktas hasn't been up and doing like their rivals Fenerbahce and Galatasaray since the start of the season and I don't think it's necessary comparing the three clubs with Besiktas because it is obvious that Besiktas can't match the latters' performance and form this season.
Fenerbahce who for the first time lost a league game last weekend are the only capable team at the moment to challenge Galatasaray fir the Turkish Super Lig title this season if you ask me.

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