Turkish Super League 2023/24 Season

[redsun114]

The 2 matches played today ended in a draw. Beşiktaş completely lost control in the second half of the match after leading in the first half. The match was generally under Başakşehir's control and it would have been a sad result for Başakşehir if they had lost in this match. The player who scored the goal for Başakşehir was Emirhan İlkkan, a former young player of Beşiktaş. We can say that it was an important goal for Emirhan who managed to score for his former team.
Pendikspor, on the other hand, managed to get a draw from the tough Samsunspor away. We can say that they are also in a fierce struggle with their relegation rivals and there is no point difference. We know that these teams are important for points and every away game is important for them.

We have disappointing day for the Besiktas and soccer fans as in both games we have only 2 goals with first scored by Besiktas in early minutes and this was good chance for them to have win after three defeats but injury time goal by Başakşehir goal ended their hopes for having win, and they have to share one point with home side which is also trying his best for having better spot before end of this season, but things are not favourable for them in this season and most chances they will be not able to have any spot into top five clubs.

Besiktas is going down day by day which is surely concern for them with they needed to improve their quality and have better results which will surely improve their confidence and depth in players which are important for them while they want to have some challenging performance against their top spot clubs in coming months.

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[Hirose UK]

Fernando Santos' tactical understanding is harming this club. I think he will win the Turkish Cup this season and leave the club. The man is not able to play the league game at all, although he has a chance in the cup. Beşiktaş should be more willing to score more goals when playing ahead. Trying to keep the score would be the biggest mistake and like today, you concede a goal at the last moment and give away the point they had. While Beşiktaş has not won in the last 4 matches, Santos is still trying to sound hopeful, it's nothing but nonsense. The board has credit, but Santos' credit has already expired.

After the match I saw a statistic that surprised me a lot. Beşiktaş made 156 passes in this match. That's a good average for bad teams, but it's very bad for teams at Beşiktaş's level. Fernando Santos is making Beşiktaş play bad football. I think Beşiktaş should fire him at the end of the season. The tactic he is trying to play is far from modern football. His football mind is stuck in the 80s. It would be better for Beşiktaş to sign a young manager who can adapt to modern football.

If you say bad, it actually not that bad because Besiktas can still be one of the top team, but regarding Fernando Santos tactics, I agree that they are not optimal and cannot keep up with the tactics of more modern games.
Previously, Fernando Santos did have experience in coaching Portugal and Poland, so this was the reason why Besiktas tried to use his services as coach, but his performance over the past 3 months has shown to be less than optimal.
He is quite old and the tactical style of play he uses for Besiktas cannot surpass what the opposing team does, just as today match against Istanbul BB was also less than optimal.
It only ended with 1 - 1 draw and in dominating the game in that match, Istanbul BB was far superior in dominating the game as whole.
I agree that Besiktas should start preparing suitable coach to replace Fernando Santos in the future.
Besiktas can develop well if they get the right coach considering that in terms of players, Besiktas already has pretty perfect squad.

[Ondekinecakabilirim]

If you say bad, it actually not that bad because Besiktas can still be one of the top team, but regarding Fernando Santos tactics, I agree that they are not optimal and cannot keep up with the tactics of more modern games.
Previously, Fernando Santos did have experience in coaching Portugal and Poland, so this was the reason why Besiktas tried to use his services as coach, but his performance over the past 3 months has shown to be less than optimal.
He is quite old and the tactical style of play he uses for Besiktas cannot surpass what the opposing team does, just as today match against Istanbul BB was also less than optimal.

Fernando Santos may not be one of the best technical directors in the world. But we have to remember that Beşiktaş fired 5 coaches this season before signing Fernando Santos. It would be unfair if we put all the blame on Fernando Santos. I think the biggest problem is the quality of Beşiktaş's squad. That's why Beşiktaş can't get consistent results even if Xabi Alonso comes. Also, we have to say that the signings they made in the winter transfer window didn't contribute to the team. So they are having a season where everything is bad for them.

[dezoel]

Both teams got their win, and in a few days they are going to end up facing each other as well. I am not saying that it is going to be easy game for either side, but if Fenerbahce does go out with their u19 team like reported, then it is going to be VERY easy game for Galatasaray.

However, I consider that as a bluff, I bet you that Fenerbahce will end up going with their main squad and try to win that game, which means that it is going to be a tough game, bluffing does happen in football, Klopp does that all the time, he is known to put out young kids for FA cup games, but then one day when he wants to win, he puts out all his main players and wins that game, sometimes works, sometimes it doesn't work like this year. So, I think this is just a bluff.

[execijutiere]

Karagümrük, who are in the relegation zone, faced Sivasspor away from home.Unfortunately, they lost this tough away game.Their point losses after this week will make every game more stressful.That's why every game they play is worth gold because they are 3 points behind their rivals.Sivasspor's win was also important for them because they were in the risky zone a little bit, but with this 3 points they managed to put themselves a little bit higher.2 Both teams had plenty of chances, but it was strange that there was only one goal in the match. You wouldn't expect the match to end with 1 goal when there were 36 shots in total.

[püsür]

Fernando Santos' tactical understanding is harming this club. I think he will win the Turkish Cup this season and leave the club. The man is not able to play the league game at all, although he has a chance in the cup. Beşiktaş should be more willing to score more goals when playing ahead. Trying to keep the score would be the biggest mistake and like today, you concede a goal at the last moment and give away the point they had. While Beşiktaş has not won in the last 4 matches, Santos is still trying to sound hopeful, it's nothing but nonsense. The board has credit, but Santos' credit has already expired.

After the match I saw a statistic that surprised me a lot. Beşiktaş made 156 passes in this match. That's a good average for bad teams, but it's very bad for teams at Beşiktaş's level. Fernando Santos is making Beşiktaş play bad football. I think Beşiktaş should fire him at the end of the season. The tactic he is trying to play is far from modern football. His football mind is stuck in the 80s. It would be better for Beşiktaş to sign a young manager who can adapt to modern football.

If necip uysal is the best player of Besiktas since the day the coach came here, this is a clear indication of how much the coach is not a Besiktas coach. There is no need to make a long analysis of the football understanding that could not take the superiority of the game even against istanbulspor, whose relegation was certain, and left the game to the initiative of the opponent regardless of the opponent. There is no need to criticise or defend with long sentences. The bad season that Beşiktaş had before he took office cannot be an excuse. There has not been a single positive improvement since the day he took office. Unfortunately, Santos must go if Besiktas want to see any success.

[Google+]

Beşiktaş lost three points today with the goal they conceded in the last minutes. Beşiktaş lost like this, even though they didn't play very well, they could have won the match if it wasn't for the goal they conceded in the last minute. Dark days continue for Beşiktaş fans. Playing poorly against Başakşehir and not being able to gain superiority shows that they are in a really bad situation.

If they continue like this, they may be in fourth place because the gap with other teams in terms of points is very close.

When besiktas got a victory in a friendly match, of course it made me sure if besiktas would be able to win over istanbul basaksehir, but in fact besiktas continued to achieve negative results never won in their last 4 matches in the league, now if we look at the statistics of the two teams in the match, of course it can be seen if besiktas in the match was very bad,  Although they were able to score a quick goal in the game, they failed to maintain the victory in the final minute of the game.

Previously I was pretty sure that Besiktas would be able to beat Istanbul easily, because at the moment Istanbul is also not in good shape at the moment in the league, but honestly I didn't expect that Istanbul could dominate the match like they were against weaker teams, Istanbul was even able to control almost 70% of possession and even those who were previously underdogs were able to create 19 chances more than Besiktas who were only Having 7 chances in the match, the draw obtained by Besiktas automatically now makes their position in the top 4 threatened by Kasimpas , Rizespor and even Instanbul at this time.

[Salahmu]

Besiktas is going down day by day which is surely concern for them with they needed to improve their quality and have better results which will surely improve their confidence and depth in players which are important for them while they want to have some challenging performance against their top spot clubs in coming months.

Besiktas was surprised to see how the match ended because they never imagine it to end that way because already they were able to defend the goal from the 17 minutes till the last minute and all of a sudden Istanbul just equalize, although Besiktas was a bit relaxed after they have seen that they are almost at the last minute of the game forgetting that there is every chance of Istanbul to equalize the game if they have any slightest opportunity.

So actually this draw has shown a lesson to Besiktas that till a match is finish they shouldn't underestimate a club, however with there points now they only have the chance of qualifying to Europa Conference league qualification unless they have shown more consistency in wining most of there matches in other to advance more because Trabzonspor is currently ahead of them with some points difference so if they managed to catch up with them they will end up on Europa League qualification.

[MK-74]

There are no league games this weekend, only the Süper Cup. Galatasaray vs Fenerbahçe
Let's see with which squad Fenerbahce will play, if they play with the U19s they will be gifting a cup to Galatasaray, if they play with the first team all this talk will have been for nothing.
I'm looking forward to the Super Cup game.

[ingiltere]

Chairman Hasan Arat gave a warning speech to the team, but it needs more than that. Players whose minds are not here and who are thinking about a transfer need to be weeded out immediately. There is no need for the players who will not be in the team next season to stay in the team in a confused state. It would be better to give young players a chance. Players who disrupt the harmony in the team should be removed from the team regardless of their names. It's time to take radical measures because Beşiktaş have no more time to waste.

[temple]

There are no league games this weekend, only the Süper Cup. Galatasaray vs Fenerbahçe
Let's see with which squad Fenerbahce will play, if they play with the U19s they will be gifting a cup to Galatasaray, if they play with the first team all this talk will have been for nothing.
I'm looking forward to the Super Cup game.

it is unreal how these two teams are performing in the league. Even better to have these two Turkish power houses now play against each other in the cup. That is going to be a wild final I assume!

If they keep performing like this for the next few weeks, there will be one more final of the year on May 19th. It could be the game where the next Turkish league winner will be determined. Galatasaray playing at home is an advantage although it probably will come down to both teams having lots of fans be present in the stadium.

[Ondekinecakabilirim]

There are no league games this weekend, only the Süper Cup. Galatasaray vs Fenerbahçe
Let's see with which squad Fenerbahce will play, if they play with the U19s they will be gifting a cup to Galatasaray, if they play with the first team all this talk will have been for nothing.
I'm looking forward to the Super Cup game.

it is unreal how these two teams are performing in the league. Even better to have these two Turkish power houses now play against each other in the cup. That is going to be a wild final I assume!

If they keep performing like this for the next few weeks, there will be one more final of the year on May 19th. It could be the game where the next Turkish league winner will be determined. Galatasaray playing at home is an advantage although it probably will come down to both teams having lots of fans be present in the stadium.

In a sense, this match will be an early final for the league. I think the team that wins this match will have a psychological advantage. Such matches are very important. Galatasaray are currently above Fenerbahçe in the league. But if Fenerbahçe win this match, suddenly everyone's perspective will change. This match is not an ordinary final match. It's also a match where the psychological advantage can change hands, so it will be an important match for both teams. I think Galatasaray will win this match because Icardi has been performing better in recent weeks. And our coach Okan Buruk has the experience to manage this process with composure.

[LGD2Business]

Beşiktaş managed to fall behind even in the friendly match, but later won with two goals. It was nice that Enes Çinemre, born in 2007, came into the game and scored a goal after 10 minutes. The other goal was scored by old wolf Cenk Tosun. I don't know what Santos was hoping to see in this friendly, but I don't think it's what he wanted. Good young players are coming from the infrastructure, they need to find more time in the official arena. Friendly matches at the facilities are not very important. There's a lot of work to be done, but I don't think it's right to continue with Santos next season.

[temple]

There are no league games this weekend, only the Süper Cup. Galatasaray vs Fenerbahçe
Let's see with which squad Fenerbahce will play, if they play with the U19s they will be gifting a cup to Galatasaray, if they play with the first team all this talk will have been for nothing.
I'm looking forward to the Super Cup game.

it is unreal how these two teams are performing in the league. Even better to have these two Turkish power houses now play against each other in the cup. That is going to be a wild final I assume!

If they keep performing like this for the next few weeks, there will be one more final of the year on May 19th. It could be the game where the next Turkish league winner will be determined. Galatasaray playing at home is an advantage although it probably will come down to both teams having lots of fans be present in the stadium.

In a sense, this match will be an early final for the league. I think the team that wins this match will have a psychological advantage. Such matches are very important. Galatasaray are currently above Fenerbahçe in the league. But if Fenerbahçe win this match, suddenly everyone's perspective will change. This match is not an ordinary final match. It's also a match where the psychological advantage can change hands, so it will be an important match for both teams. I think Galatasaray will win this match because Icardi has been performing better in recent weeks. And our coach Okan Buruk has the experience to manage this process with composure.

It is the second last game for all teams in the league, so I think it will definitely be the decision in the championship fight. Whoever wins that game, wins the title unless there is a decision before that game takes place, but so far it looks as if both teams will continue their impressive winning streaks and not lose any points until then. Mistakes could happen, but in a best case scenario we will have a true final between these two teams. What a spectacular event that would be. It would be too sad if one of those teams now makes mistakes or gets unlucky and falls behind several points. Now it is almost perfect. Galatasaray can afford one more draw. It would be equal points then. That would make the game an amazing final.

[ILuckyGuyI]

I was getting excited about the Super Cup game between us and Fenerbahçe. But unfortunately Fenerbahçe made a decision to play this game with their U19 players which ended all the fun suddenly. I won't watch the game anymore as it is like a gift to us already. I'm at least contented with their not deciding to withdraw from the Super League. It would be a big quality loss for the league.  

It looks like this title rivalry in the Super League will go on like this until the big derby. If the point difference stays like this then Fenerbahçe would really have no chance other than winning against us.

I hope that it doesn't happen.  

[MK-74]

There are no league games this weekend, only the Süper Cup. Galatasaray vs Fenerbahçe
Let's see with which squad Fenerbahce will play, if they play with the U19s they will be gifting a cup to Galatasaray, if they play with the first team all this talk will have been for nothing.
I'm looking forward to the Super Cup game.

it is unreal how these two teams are performing in the league. Even better to have these two Turkish power houses now play against each other in the cup. That is going to be a wild final I assume!

If they keep performing like this for the next few weeks, there will be one more final of the year on May 19th. It could be the game where the next Turkish league winner will be determined. Galatasaray playing at home is an advantage although it probably will come down to both teams having lots of fans be present in the stadium.

It won't be a crazy final game, because Fenerbahçe will play this game with U19 players.
If this is true, it will be a cup gifted to Galatasaray. If Fenerbahçe's U19 players win the game, then see it will be a big deal.

[entertheabyss]

Beşiktaş managed to fall behind even in the friendly match, but later won with two goals. It was nice that Enes Çinemre, born in 2007, came into the game and scored a goal after 10 minutes. The other goal was scored by old wolf Cenk Tosun. I don't know what Santos was hoping to see in this friendly, but I don't think it's what he wanted. Good young players are coming from the infrastructure, they need to find more time in the official arena. Friendly matches at the facilities are not very important. There's a lot of work to be done, but I don't think it's right to continue with Santos next season.

Friendly games are never the priority or odds to determined the best performance of players, because none of them will be keen on improving in their rounds and also leaving out some changes. Though when it comes to major tournaments, there's always a turnaround and we've closely watch how these players improve and exhibits their stellar performance on the pitch. Beşiktaş is among these Turkish elite team and with brilliant players, they will dominate based on the good quality players in the team and they've experienced good changes in the club.

[xzone]

I was getting excited about the Super Cup game between us and Fenerbahçe. But unfortunately Fenerbahçe made a decision to play this game with their U19 players which ended all the fun suddenly. I won't watch the game anymore as it is like a gift to us already. I'm at least contented with their not deciding to withdraw from the Super League. It would be a big quality loss for the league. 

It looks like this title rivalry in the Super League will go on like this until the big derby. If the point difference stays like this then Fenerbahçe would really have no chance other than winning against us.

I hope that it doesn't happen. 

If Fenerbahçe had withdrawn from the league, much worse things would have happened for the league. Also, the fans would revolt. This decision was better for everyone.
I wish such incidents did not happen and everything was fair in the league, but to be honest, every year we see another sensational event related to the Turkish Super League. Referee problems, fights, bad management of the federation. There is always a problem

[emrecemsan]

I have heard that Fenerbahçe chairman Ali Koç called their supporters not to buy tickets for the Super Cup match as well. Do you think Fenerbahçe would play this match full time?    I assume there wouldn't be such thing after deciding to play it anyway with their young team. If they do such thing it would probably end up with a penalty for Fenerbahçe too.

All markets are closed for the Super Cup match by the way. Is there anyone who was able to bet on this match? If there was such chance then I assume those bets would be cancelled right away. It isn't allowed to bet on the match either in Turkey or on foreign gambling websites.

[Silence Scream]

Fernando Santos' tactical understanding is harming this club. I think he will win the Turkish Cup this season and leave the club. The man is not able to play the league game at all, although he has a chance in the cup. Beşiktaş should be more willing to score more goals when playing ahead. Trying to keep the score would be the biggest mistake and like today, you concede a goal at the last moment and give away the point they had. While Beşiktaş has not won in the last 4 matches, Santos is still trying to sound hopeful, it's nothing but nonsense. The board has credit, but Santos' credit has already expired.

After the match I saw a statistic that surprised me a lot. Beşiktaş made 156 passes in this match. That's a good average for bad teams, but it's very bad for teams at Beşiktaş's level. Fernando Santos is making Beşiktaş play bad football. I think Beşiktaş should fire him at the end of the season. The tactic he is trying to play is far from modern football. His football mind is stuck in the 80s. It would be better for Beşiktaş to sign a young manager who can adapt to modern football.

Maybe you are right, but we should not forget that Fernando Santos was transferred to Beşiktaş with very bad timing. Beşiktaş is trying to do something with the players in its squad. If they make the transfers they want, they can make Beşiktaş play better next year.