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April 07, 2024, 01:34:27 PM
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If Fenerbahçe had withdrawn from the league, much worse things would have happened for the league. Also, the fans would revolt. This decision was better for everyone.
I wish such incidents did not happen and everything was fair in the league, but to be honest, every year we see another sensational event related to the Turkish Super League. Referee problems, fights, bad management of the federation. There is always a problem Smiley
The incident that happened in the previous fenerbache match was indeed quite terrible and it was only natural that fenerbache want to get out of the Turkish league, so far I have not heard of any casualties from the incident but the Turkish league authorities should be able to prevent it from happening again in the future, because after all the rivalry  that occurs in the world of football should not cause hostility especially until there are casualties from fans,  Players, match organizers or anyone who is involved in the match, I think we have heard of terrible events in football in various countries and it only makes the achievements of football in that country regress.

I think now it's time for the Turkish league authorities to make strict rules about triggering trouble in a match just like in the Premier League, btw today we will see a bigmatch match between Fenerbache and Galatasaray in the Turkish Super Cup, and hope we will see a match full of excitement and also high intensity from former top European players in both teams,  But still by holding high Sportsmanship, for the match I Predict if Galatasaray will win with a score of 2-1 over Fenerbache.

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April 07, 2024, 04:04:15 PM
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I thought Fenerbahçe would win comfortably against Adana Demirspor. But Fenerbahçe barely got a win against Adana Demirspor. It was a much-needed win for F.Bahçe. Because Fenerbahçe's rival Galatasaray did not make a mistake against Hatayspor. Both teams made no mistakes on their way to the title.

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April 07, 2024, 05:01:29 PM
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Chairman Hasan Arat gave a warning speech to the team, but it needs more than that. Players whose minds are not here and who are thinking about a transfer need to be weeded out immediately. There is no need for the players who will not be in the team next season to stay in the team in a confused state. It would be better to give young players a chance. Players who disrupt the harmony in the team should be removed from the team regardless of their names. It's time to take radical measures because Beşiktaş have no more time to waste.

There are too many players in Beşiktaş whose heads are not in Beşiktaş football club. Cenk Tosun and Salih Uçan's contracts expire at the end of the season. Beşiktaş postponed new contract negotiations with these players until the end of the season. Because these two footballers demanded high annual salaries. Beşiktaş will most probably not sign a contract with these two players. Apart from that, Colley and Amartey did not meet the expectations. Abubakar is having problems with the club. In short, Beşiktaş is having problems with its defenders, midfielders and attackers. They failed in squad planning this season.

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April 07, 2024, 05:24:25 PM
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it is unreal how these two teams are performing in the league. Even better to have these two Turkish power houses now play against each other in the cup. That is going to be a wild final I assume!

If they keep performing like this for the next few weeks, there will be one more final of the year on May 19th. It could be the game where the next Turkish league winner will be determined. Galatasaray playing at home is an advantage although it probably will come down to both teams having lots of fans be present in the stadium.



It won't be a crazy final game, because Fenerbahçe will play this game with U19 players.
If this is true, it will be a cup gifted to Galatasaray. If Fenerbahçe's U19 players win the game, then see it will be a big deal.

Ok but how do you know for sure that Fenerbahce will let their U19 players play that game? I know the Turkish league, but I don't know too much about the cups. I assume that the Türkiye Kupası is probably the most important cup and the cup game today is more like the League Cup in the Premier League, is that about right?

But still I thought that they would go for all the titles they can if they are so close to it. Why would only Fenerbahce decide to play with a B team or a team mostly consisting of U19 players while Galatasaray takes it more seriously?
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April 07, 2024, 06:01:42 PM
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There are no league games this weekend, only the Süper Cup. Galatasaray vs Fenerbahçe
Let's see with which squad Fenerbahce will play, if they play with the U19s they will be gifting a cup to Galatasaray, if they play with the first team all this talk will have been for nothing.
I'm looking forward to the Super Cup game.

it is unreal how these two teams are performing in the league. Even better to have these two Turkish power houses now play against each other in the cup. That is going to be a wild final I assume!

If they keep performing like this for the next few weeks, there will be one more final of the year on May 19th. It could be the game where the next Turkish league winner will be determined. Galatasaray playing at home is an advantage although it probably will come down to both teams having lots of fans be present in the stadium.




In a sense, this match will be an early final for the league. I think the team that wins this match will have a psychological advantage. Such matches are very important. Galatasaray are currently above Fenerbahçe in the league. But if Fenerbahçe win this match, suddenly everyone's perspective will change. This match is not an ordinary final match. It's also a match where the psychological advantage can change hands, so it will be an important match for both teams. I think Galatasaray will win this match because Icardi has been performing better in recent weeks. And our coach Okan Buruk has the experience to manage this process with composure.

Fenerbahçe decided to play the pitch with the U19 team against Galatasaray in the Super Cup final. Galatasaray are playing their normal first team XI. There have been a lot of strange things happening in our league this season. The referee was beaten, the İstanbulspor's president abdicated İstanbulspor from the pitch, fans and footballers fought, The Super Cup scandal in Saudi Arabia. And today's scandal. Despite so much scandal, no official resigned.

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April 07, 2024, 09:44:38 PM
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Nobody understood why league matches were not played this weekend. If the Super Cup match was not going to be played, why did you take a break from the league? This federation is the worst federation in Turkish football history. They decided to hold an election, but they were too late. They should have resigned and left months ago. This season is no longer valid. No one should be given a trophy this season. We experienced one of the most questionable seasons in history. Those responsible were not even held accountable; in a normal country, they should have been sentenced to prison.

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April 07, 2024, 09:54:08 PM
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The Super Cup scandal in Saudi Arabia. And today's scandal. Despite so much scandal, no official resigned.

This final match was supposed to be played in Arabia, but due to some problems in Arabia it couldn't be played. Now the match that was supposed to be played in Türkiye could not be played because Fenerbahçe president Ali Koç pulled the Fenerbahçe football team off the field.

Ali Koç, who is Fenerbahçe president only because he is the son of the richest family in Turkey, should resign from his position as Fenerbahçe president. He has been president for 6 seasons and has no achievements. Fenerbahçe had unsuccessful results during his term. He used Fenerbahçe in this match to overshadow his own failure.

Ali Koç should resign before the president of the Turkish football federation. Fenerbahçe is the team of 30 million fans, not his family's company.

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April 07, 2024, 09:56:29 PM
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It was obvious that Fenerbahce would not take the field in this match.Ali Koc was clear from the beginning that he wanted this match to be postponed and rescheduled for a better date.The league and the European Cup were more important for Fenerbahce, which made this match lose its importance.If Galatasaray had not been eliminated from the European Cup and both Fenerbahce and Galatasaray had a European Cup match 3-4 days later, the TFF's decision would have been to postpone the match, but they did not do that. We can clearly say that the TFF took a biased decision and no one can deny that.
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The Super Cup scandal in Saudi Arabia. And today's scandal. Despite so much scandal, no official resigned.

There is one thing we still can't get used to, this is Turkey and no one resigns here, it doesn't matter whether they are guilty or not.

As expected, Fenerbahçe started the game with the U19 team. In the first minutes of the game, the Fenerbahçe team was going to withdraw from the field, but Galatasaray took the lead 1-0 with the goal of Icardini before the game was stopped, and Fenerbahçe withdrew from the field when the game was stopped.
TFF will announce the decision as soon as possible.

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The Super Cup scandal in Saudi Arabia. And today's scandal. Despite so much scandal, no official resigned.

This final match was supposed to be played in Arabia, but due to some problems in Arabia it couldn't be played. Now the match that was supposed to be played in Türkiye could not be played because Fenerbahçe president Ali Koç pulled the Fenerbahçe football team off the field.

Ali Koç, who is Fenerbahçe president only because he is the son of the richest family in Turkey, should resign from his position as Fenerbahçe president. He has been president for 6 seasons and has no achievements. Fenerbahçe had unsuccessful results during his term. He used Fenerbahçe in this match to overshadow his own failure.

Ali Koç should resign before the president of the Turkish football federation. Fenerbahçe is the team of 30 million fans, not his family's company.
Because of these off-field factors, betting on matches is also bad and ridiculous. We don't know what's going to happen in the next few weeks. With this withdrawal from the league, referee errors, etc., there is great uncertainty. As written above, there is no real reason why no match was played this week.

Ali Koç's name has been mentioned for years for Fenerbahçe presidency. Eventually he became the president, but there was failure after failure, strangeness after strangeness. I think it would be better for everyone, even for the betting, if such a rich man concentrates on his own companies and quits football.
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April 08, 2024, 12:27:06 PM
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The Super Cup scandal in Saudi Arabia. And today's scandal. Despite so much scandal, no official resigned.

There is one thing we still can't get used to, this is Turkey and no one resigns here, it doesn't matter whether they are guilty or not.
I learnt this the hard way and it is a huge relieve that I later learnt this tough lesson. I use to be so confident of Beşiktaş, Galatasaray and Fenerbahce believing the three teams to always remain victorious against any opponent. It worked for sometime but not too long before Beşiktaş became a weak team that cannot be trusted. Similarly, Fenerbahce also started demonstrating a high level of inconsistency in both home and away matches. Galatasaray did not disappoint much but the odds is usually very small and highly discouraging. The safe way to goal about this is to target goals for the selected teams, at least that have been coming through for most of them.

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April 08, 2024, 02:49:21 PM
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What the fuck was that? Im refering to the behaviour of Fenerhbace in the supercup final against Galatasaray, i read in some papers it was related to a fight with the Turkis federation , but man i think the claim is not so convincing, first if i was the Turkish federation i say to them start to play better on europe and stop making excuse about tireness, in english footbal they play way more and no team say anything.
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April 08, 2024, 05:57:38 PM
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The Super Cup scandal in Saudi Arabia. And today's scandal. Despite so much scandal, no official resigned.

There is one thing we still can't get used to, this is Turkey and no one resigns here, it doesn't matter whether they are guilty or not.

As expected, Fenerbahçe started the game with the U19 team. In the first minutes of the game, the Fenerbahçe team was going to withdraw from the field, but Galatasaray took the lead 1-0 with the goal of Icardini before the game was stopped, and Fenerbahçe withdrew from the field when the game was stopped.
TFF will announce the decision as soon as possible.

I wasn't aware of what was going on around this game beforehand, but now I read some interviews and realized what the whole deal was about. It is complicated, but what I don't get yet is: why did Fenerbahce go and play that game at all if their plan was to cancel the game or leave the pitch after a few minutes anyway? Does that make any difference?

I think it was the Fenerbahce president or some high official from the club who said that the U19 will go there, but that he can "guarantee the game won't last 90 minutes". If everything was set in stone from the start, I don't understand why they let the game begin at all and not just boycott it.
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April 08, 2024, 07:05:05 PM
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The Super Cup scandal in Saudi Arabia. And today's scandal. Despite so much scandal, no official resigned.

There is one thing we still can't get used to, this is Turkey and no one resigns here, it doesn't matter whether they are guilty or not.


You said something very true. I completely agree with your opinion. Unfortunately, there is no resignation culture in our country. I guess, again no one will resign after this chaos. Last night, what really happened? Why did Fenerbahce wait to concede a goal that game at all if their plan was to leave the pitch? Some fans are angry with Ali Koç because he couldn't even do the protest properly.

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April 08, 2024, 07:46:13 PM
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What the fuck was that? Im refering to the behaviour of Fenerhbace in the supercup final against Galatasaray, i read in some papers it was related to a fight with the Turkis federation , but man i think the claim is not so convincing, first if i was the Turkish federation i say to them start to play better on europe and stop making excuse about tireness, in english footbal they play way more and no team say anything.

Why are you surprised? Fenerbahçe had already announced many times that they wouldn't play this match. I expected them to make more radical decisions, such as withdrawing from the league. But they only sacrificed the Super Cup, and this match should have been played at the beginning of the season or in the middle of the season at the latest. It's almost time for the new season's Super Cup match, but the guys could only organize this match now. This incompetent federation made a mess of that too.

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April 09, 2024, 04:22:03 AM
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If you say bad, it actually not that bad because Besiktas can still be one of the top team, but regarding Fernando Santos tactics, I agree that they are not optimal and cannot keep up with the tactics of more modern games.
Previously, Fernando Santos did have experience in coaching Portugal and Poland, so this was the reason why Besiktas tried to use his services as coach, but his performance over the past 3 months has shown to be less than optimal.
He is quite old and the tactical style of play he uses for Besiktas cannot surpass what the opposing team does, just as today match against Istanbul BB was also less than optimal.

Fernando Santos may not be one of the best technical directors in the world. But we have to remember that Beşiktaş fired 5 coaches this season before signing Fernando Santos. It would be unfair if we put all the blame on Fernando Santos. I think the biggest problem is the quality of Beşiktaş's squad. That's why Beşiktaş can't get consistent results even if Xabi Alonso comes. Also, we have to say that the signings they made in the winter transfer window didn't contribute to the team. So they are having a season where everything is bad for them.
Yes, currently the style of play created by Fernando Santos in terms of tactics in each match seems to be lagging behind other team, in fact several times the games created by Fernando Santos are easy for the opposing team to read.
This is the reason why many people doubt Besiktas and are considered an unstable team, if Fernando Santos is willing to follow more advanced playing style, maybe it can really help Besiktas to make it easier to win.
When it comes to other coaches, we actually don't need to talk about it because it has been proven that there won't be any changes and for the future of Besiktas, I not sure that Xabi will come as the coach to replace Fernando Santos.

Moreover, Besiktas already has players who can be said to be quite good, overall the line-up they have can be relied on if the formation applied by the coach is really right.
Things like this should be concern for Fernando Santos, he must be able to place each player correctly and use some more advanced playing strategies, otherwise Besiktas will really need new coach next season.

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April 09, 2024, 06:20:00 AM
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What the fuck was that? Im refering to the behaviour of Fenerhbace in the supercup final against Galatasaray, i read in some papers it was related to a fight with the Turkis federation , but man i think the claim is not so convincing, first if i was the Turkish federation i say to them start to play better on europe and stop making excuse about tireness, in english footbal they play way more and no team say anything.


It wasn't mainly because of thinking of their Conference League match in fact. It was because of the aim to protest TFF board for doing their work really bad. Especially after terrible things happened at the end of the Trabzonspor - Fenerbahçe match Ali Koç wanted to take an action.

I don't know if this was the right kind of action though. If I were him I wouldn't even go to the city in which the match was going to be played. There is no point in bringing U19 players to play for only 1 minute and then go to the locker room.  Sad
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April 09, 2024, 12:55:11 PM
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What the fuck was that? Im refering to the behaviour of Fenerhbace in the supercup final against Galatasaray, i read in some papers it was related to a fight with the Turkis federation , but man i think the claim is not so convincing, first if i was the Turkish federation i say to them start to play better on europe and stop making excuse about tireness, in english footbal they play way more and no team say anything.


It wasn't mainly because of thinking of their Conference League match in fact. It was because of the aim to protest TFF board for doing their work really bad. Especially after terrible things happened at the end of the Trabzonspor - Fenerbahçe match Ali Koç wanted to take an action.

I don't know if this was the right kind of action though. If I were him I wouldn't even go to the city in which the match was going to be played. There is no point in bringing U19 players to play for only 1 minute and then go to the locker room.  Sad
Moreover, in that 1 minute, Galatasaray immediately scored the goal and took the lead 1-0. Fenerbahçe protested against the federation officials by bringing its U19 players onto the field, but I think the brand value of the league was gradually decreasing. This move may have caused a stir, as Ceferin and the Turkish teams started to meet one by one. It was not easy for a team playing with the dream of the Champions League to accept such a thing.

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April 09, 2024, 01:26:00 PM
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Başakşehir drew 1-1 with Beşiktaş at home. The match was generally under Başakşehir's control. Beşiktaş made 156 passes in this match. Beşiktaş conceded in the last minute from a corner. The player who scored the goal for Başakşehir was Emirhan İlkkan, a former young player of Beşiktaş. Life is really weird. Two years ago, Beşiktaş offered Emirhan İlkhan a funny salary of 10,000 TL per month. First to Torino and then to Başakşehir. He also rejected this funny offer and went first to Torino and then to Başakşehir.

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April 09, 2024, 02:00:14 PM
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I thought Fenerbahçe would win comfortably against Adana Demirspor. But Fenerbahçe barely got a win against Adana Demirspor. It was a much-needed win for F.Bahçe. Because Fenerbahçe's rival Galatasaray did not make a mistake against Hatayspor. Both teams made no mistakes on their way to the title.

Yeah especially on the first half of the match when Fenerbahçe score there first goal and it was not long Adana Demirspor equalize the goal making it 1-1, so truly Adana Demirspor gave Fenerbahçe a very tough time at the beginning but it was fortunate for Fenerbahçe because there second half became a game changer for them and they began to dominate the match giving Adana Demirspor no opportunity to perform, so irrespective of Fenerbahçe not playing well on the first half doesn't actually make them a lesser club because the only club that's holding them from leading the table is Galatasaray.

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