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June 25, 2024, 07:39:53 AM
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It is difficult to finish in the top four, but United must have a good goal to keep them motivated. I believe the top four EPL in the upcoming season will be a reasonable ambition for United to achieve following the bad result recorded by united last season, and Ten Hag is still working on how to achieve that goal during the summer transfer season.

About Anthony, and I missed him when he did this.Cheesy



As long as MU has Anthony,and they will always win at least one trophy in each season.  Cheesy
So funny Grin

People here call Anthony spin and win because of his ridiculous spinning skill amd whenever i hear the name i just burst into laughter. He is snow a laughing stock here in my area and it got worse when he only managed a single for an entire season.

It was a disappointing season for Manchester United but they were later compensated with a trophy and it is more than enough to serve as a motivation for the players to put in more effort next season. It is not impossible to make top 4 next season but Ten Hag needs to put in more work if they want to achieve that.
Did you say Manchester United was compensated with a trophy or they won it. Why are you talking down on the success of Manchester United. If they had lost, we would all bash them as well. But now they won, it has become a compensation. That's by the way.

Honestly, I have never known of Anthony's nick name "spin and win". It's funny LOL. That skill is very annoying when the team is not leading. So, he does the unnecessary skill when it is not needed. Manchester United might not make top 4 this season if they depend on players like Anthony to lead the way

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June 25, 2024, 08:55:32 AM
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It is difficult to finish in the top four, but United must have a good goal to keep them motivated. I believe the top four EPL in the upcoming season will be a reasonable ambition for United to achieve following the bad result recorded by united last season, and Ten Hag is still working on how to achieve that goal during the summer transfer season.

About Anthony, and I missed him when he did this.Cheesy



As long as MU has Anthony,and they will always win at least one trophy in each season.  Cheesy
So funny Grin

People here call Anthony spin and win because of his ridiculous spinning skill amd whenever i hear the name i just burst into laughter. He is snow a laughing stock here in my area and it got worse when he only managed a single for an entire season.

It was a disappointing season for Manchester United but they were later compensated with a trophy and it is more than enough to serve as a motivation for the players to put in more effort next season. It is not impossible to make top 4 next season but Ten Hag needs to put in more work if they want to achieve that.
Did you say Manchester United was compensated with a trophy or they won it. Why are you talking down on the success of Manchester United. If they had lost, we would all bash them as well. But now they won, it has become a compensation. That's by the way.

Honestly, I have never known of Anthony's nick name "spin and win". It's funny LOL. That skill is very annoying when the team is not leading. So, he does the unnecessary skill when it is not needed. Manchester United might not make top 4 this season if they depend on players like Anthony to lead the way

Yeah you are right in as much as Manchester United did not performed well on this season premier League doesn't  mean that the trophy they won was just a compensation to them, actually I totally disagree with what the person said because we all watch the match and see how difficult it was for Manchester City and Manchester United and unlike every matches Manchester United has played on this season that was actually one of the match they put so much energy and determination and at the end victory was there's, however even Pep Guardiola was very upset on that match because he was so disappointed on his boys because what he had in mind was to win the premier League and also the FA Cup.

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June 25, 2024, 10:55:37 AM
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Unlike the previous season, when David De Gea was still Man United's goalkeeper, the club did not concede as many goals as last season. If Erik Ten Hag had not replaced him with Andre Onana, the club would not have experienced as many problems.

Blaming Onana completely is actually also bad. I think there are many factors when Man United concede a lot this season. You have to remember this season there are not many Man United defenders in good shape. Many Man United players are injured. So it was purely in the team not Onana. Ten Hag's strategy also has a lot of blunders. The players made a lot of mistakes. The flow of the ball from below does not go well, possession is easily lost. When under tight pressure, Man United is always weak to protect the ball. Many players are confused about where the ball will be given. It's a classic problem but Ten Hag has to work hard to eliminate these mistakes.

Onana did remarkably well in the middle of the season; it was unjust to hold him responsible for everything bad that happened to the united. To be honest, United's lack of a strong defensive line last season was one of the main reasons for their poor performances, even breaking the record for the most conceded goals in United history.

And many of United's defenders injuries greatly affected the team's performance. Ten Hag made some incorrect decisions, but the injured players made him do so.

Any factor contributing to United's poor performance in the previous season makes it challenging to blame Onana alone. 

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June 25, 2024, 01:40:47 PM
 #4104

It is difficult to finish in the top four, but United must have a good goal to keep them motivated. I believe the top four EPL in the upcoming season will be a reasonable ambition for United to achieve following the bad result recorded by united last season, and Ten Hag is still working on how to achieve that goal during the summer transfer season.

About Anthony, and I missed him when he did this.Cheesy



As long as MU has Anthony,and they will always win at least one trophy in each season.  Cheesy
So funny Grin

People here call Anthony spin and win because of his ridiculous spinning skill amd whenever i hear the name i just burst into laughter. He is snow a laughing stock here in my area and it got worse when he only managed a single for an entire season.

It was a disappointing season for Manchester United but they were later compensated with a trophy and it is more than enough to serve as a motivation for the players to put in more effort next season. It is not impossible to make top 4 next season but Ten Hag needs to put in more work if they want to achieve that.
Did you say Manchester United was compensated with a trophy or they won it. Why are you talking down on the success of Manchester United. If they had lost, we would all bash them as well. But now they won, it has become a compensation. That's by the way.

Honestly, I have never known of Anthony's nick name "spin and win". It's funny LOL. That skill is very annoying when the team is not leading. So, he does the unnecessary skill when it is not needed. Manchester United might not make top 4 this season if they depend on players like Anthony to lead the way
No one is taking the trophy from them so relax, Grin I am not talking down on Manchester United Success of winning the FA Cup quite alright they won it and okay they were not compensated but you all are getting my point wrong, what i meant was that after having a terrible season trophy won was more like a compensation from the coach to the fans to keep believing in him but if we shouldn’t deceive ourselves Ten Hag is not capable to take United back to their old days of glory. I can see that from the teams style of play, a team with potential should be able to conquer small teams easily and have control of the game easily but we can’t see that from Ten Hag’s team.

Antony is still showing some childish act and that’s why it’s easy to bench him with Amad Diallo. He needs to grow and learn what to do ag the right time. He’s got qualities but it’s easy to bench him with someone better when does unnecessary things.

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June 25, 2024, 02:34:24 PM
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Unlike the previous season, when David De Gea was still Man United's goalkeeper, the club did not concede as many goals as last season. If Erik Ten Hag had not replaced him with Andre Onana, the club would not have experienced as many problems.

Blaming Onana completely is actually also bad. I think there are many factors when Man United concede a lot this season. You have to remember this season there are not many Man United defenders in good shape. Many Man United players are injured. So it was purely in the team not Onana. Ten Hag's strategy also has a lot of blunders. The players made a lot of mistakes. The flow of the ball from below does not go well, possession is easily lost. When under tight pressure, Man United is always weak to protect the ball. Many players are confused about where the ball will be given. It's a classic problem but Ten Hag has to work hard to eliminate these mistakes.
Onana became one of the most expensive purchases made by Manchester United to meet the request from Ten Hag, Onana was of course one of the players who made Manchester United have to spend a lot of money when Ten Hag came to Manchester United and had the desire to make Manchester United triumphant again, but in fact after fulfilling all ten Hag's requests and spending a lot of money, Manchester United fell in the second season of Ten Hag coaching,  Actually, Onana performed quite well with Intermilan and Ajax, personally Ten Hag knows Onana very well because the two of them used to work together when Ten Hag was still coaching Ajax.

Actually, the majority of players recruited by ten hag so far are good players, including their defenders, but for some reason it seems that they were only able to show good performance when they first joined and over time their performance actually declined drastically as it is today, the number of goals conceded at Manchester United at the moment of course we cannot blame individuals by Onana,  But indeed with their current squad, of course, we should question, how the scheme and game strategy applied by Ten Hag so far so that they can be so slumped.

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June 25, 2024, 03:33:39 PM
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Actually, the majority of players recruited by ten hag so far are good players, including their defenders, but for some reason it seems that they were only able to show good performance when they first joined and over time their performance actually declined drastically as it is today, the number of goals conceded at Manchester United at the moment of course we cannot blame individuals by Onana,  But indeed with their current squad, of course, we should question, how the scheme and game strategy applied by Ten Hag so far so that they can be so slumped.
It won't seem strange to anyone to see that this team played very poorly in the EPL the previous season. It has even been said that Manchester United's performance actually decreased compared to the previous season. In fact, in the last season, Manchester United actually conceded more goals. It can be seen that their back line also It's quite bad not only on the front line, I'm not surprised to see this team continue to run like that and what's even more strange is that getting a trophy in the FA Cup means that Ten Hag will continue to be maintained and there are almost a lot of supporters who want Ten Hag to stay.

I'm not sure there are supporters who support decline rather than support progress, I'm not sure there will be any progress made by Manchester United next season, I can't wait to see how Tenhag takes advantage of his opportunity again at Manchester United for the new season, whether this team whether there will be setbacks or progress, he has to really overhaul all the players in his main squad if he really wants to progress. There are so many players who are unproductive that they won't make progress next season if they continue to be retained.

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June 25, 2024, 03:49:32 PM
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Actually, the majority of players recruited by ten hag so far are good players, including their defenders, but for some reason it seems that they were only able to show good performance when they first joined and over time their performance actually declined drastically as it is today, the number of goals conceded at Manchester United at the moment of course we cannot blame individuals by Onana,  But indeed with their current squad, of course, we should question, how the scheme and game strategy applied by Ten Hag so far so that they can be so slumped.
It won't seem strange to anyone to see that this team played very poorly in the EPL the previous season. It has even been said that Manchester United's performance actually decreased compared to the previous season. In fact, in the last season, Manchester United actually conceded more goals. It can be seen that their back line also It's quite bad not only on the front line, I'm not surprised to see this team continue to run like that and what's even more strange is that getting a trophy in the FA Cup means that Ten Hag will continue to be maintained and there are almost a lot of supporters who want Ten Hag to stay.

I'm not sure there are supporters who support decline rather than support progress, I'm not sure there will be any progress made by Manchester United next season, I can't wait to see how Tenhag takes advantage of his opportunity again at Manchester United for the new season, whether this team whether there will be setbacks or progress, he has to really overhaul all the players in his main squad if he really wants to progress. There are so many players who are unproductive that they won't make progress next season if they continue to be retained.

After all, at least Manchester United has also made efforts to appoint a new manager, and Manchester United has also approached Tuchel who also failed at Bayern Munich. but unfortunately, Manchester United and Tuchel did not reach an agreement because Tuchel also has to rest first. But anyway, if for example their meeting reached an agreement, then of course Erik ten Hag would be fired too even though Erik ten Hag managed to getting the FA Cup trophy last season. So, for reasons like that then it looks like Manchester United also have no other choice but to keep Erik ten Hag maybe at least for one more season.

Because after all, if for example Manchester United still fired Erik ten Hag, then it is also likely that Manchester United still did not get the right replacement to replace Erik ten Hag position this moment. Therefore, I think it would also be better to do a better consideration, because Manchester United need to get a new manager who is really right for the long term too.

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June 25, 2024, 04:29:47 PM
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Actually, the majority of players recruited by ten hag so far are good players, including their defenders, but for some reason it seems that they were only able to show good performance when they first joined and over time their performance actually declined drastically as it is today, the number of goals conceded at Manchester United at the moment of course we cannot blame individuals by Onana,  But indeed with their current squad, of course, we should question, how the scheme and game strategy applied by Ten Hag so far so that they can be so slumped.

There are so many factors that influence. Transfers of players from outside the EPL do not always make the best contribution. This is because of the differences in the characters playing each league. They could not adjust to the fast tempo of the EPL. So I think the player transfers that Ten Hag made don't seem to be effective either. His project failed plus many players were injured.  Man United's suffering is complete.  But 1 trophy seems to be able to make the management change their minds.


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June 25, 2024, 04:58:49 PM
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Does Manchester United's decision to retain Ten Hag have anything to do with the victory achieved in the FA Cup? This success also means that Manchester United will play in the Europa League next season. If judged from achievements in the Premier League, Ten Hag has failed to make Manchester United a club that is ready to compete in the top four, so there is no reason for Manchester United to continue working with Ten Hag.

Whether or not Ten Hag will coach Manchester United next season is appropriate, only the club's board of directors will assess it, but the news currently spreading is that Ten Hag is still trusted to lead Manchester United next season. Many parties from outside the club began to regret this decision because there were doubts about his ability to take Manchester United in a better direction, these doubts arose after Manchester United failed to compete in an elite position this season.
I think what Manchester United are doing at the moment has nothing to do with the FA trophy they got at the end of the season, because reportedly Manchester United had talks with Tuchel when the management of Manchester United evaluated Ten Hag performance, but reportedly Tuchel preferred to rest in coaching a club next season and made Manchester United finally choose to keep Ten Hag,So if Tuchel  accepted  the Manchester United offer at that time then it is certain that we will see Ten Hag become one of the coaches fired this season in the Premier League, we should appreciate Ten Hag achievements in winning the FA trophy and playing in the Europa League next season, but as a team that had glory in the Premier League, what their level dropped lower than the current EPL and Champions League trophy competitors previously  to be a team that is quite happy with the FA Trophy?

Keeping ten hag, which is obviously not able to make Manchester United better, will not only risk the popularity of Manchester United later but maybe can their destroy , but of course we all cannot deny that the management has a special assessment to retain or fire ten hag, so that as football fans of course we can only hope that Manchester United will be fine in the future.

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June 25, 2024, 05:44:25 PM
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Does Manchester United's decision to retain Ten Hag have anything to do with the victory achieved in the FA Cup? This success also means that Manchester United will play in the Europa League next season. If judged from achievements in the Premier League, Ten Hag has failed to make Manchester United a club that is ready to compete in the top four, so there is no reason for Manchester United to continue working with Ten Hag.

Whether or not Ten Hag will coach Manchester United next season is appropriate, only the club's board of directors will assess it, but the news currently spreading is that Ten Hag is still trusted to lead Manchester United next season. Many parties from outside the club began to regret this decision because there were doubts about his ability to take Manchester United in a better direction, these doubts arose after Manchester United failed to compete in an elite position this season.

Using just the Fa Cup Competition win wouldn't have been enough in my own opinion, but it did gave him an edge. Whenever you evaluate the two seasons he has spent as Manchester United manager, you'll have a whole lot to learn from the man and how much of a great transformation Manchester United had in the first season with Erik Ten Hag. Can you look into this.?

Failure from the Premier League Competition came with a whole lot of reasons, I cannot start going into details but most importantly, he had defenders issues which they're currently trying to sort out completely.

Erik Ten Hag I have said time after time is thr best manager for Manchester United, it'll be sad if the new owners fail to back him up. I hope they do so they don't blame the faulting and failings on a good and sound coach. Most importantly, they shouldn't hesitate to get those defenders signed.
Manchester United needs pacy defenders who are young and experience with a higher football IQ.

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June 25, 2024, 06:08:12 PM
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Unlike the previous season, when David De Gea was still Man United's goalkeeper, the club did not concede as many goals as last season. If Erik Ten Hag had not replaced him with Andre Onana, the club would not have experienced as many problems.

Blaming Onana completely is actually also bad. I think there are many factors when Man United concede a lot this season. You have to remember this season there are not many Man United defenders in good shape. Many Man United players are injured. So it was purely in the team not Onana. Ten Hag's strategy also has a lot of blunders. The players made a lot of mistakes. The flow of the ball from below does not go well, possession is easily lost. When under tight pressure, Man United is always weak to protect the ball. Many players are confused about where the ball will be given. It's a classic problem but Ten Hag has to work hard to eliminate these mistakes.
Onana became one of the most expensive purchases made by Manchester United to meet the request from Ten Hag, Onana was of course one of the players who made Manchester United have to spend a lot of money when Ten Hag came to Manchester United and had the desire to make Manchester United triumphant again, but in fact after fulfilling all ten Hag's requests and spending a lot of money, Manchester United fell in the second season of Ten Hag coaching,  Actually, Onana performed quite well with Intermilan and Ajax, personally Ten Hag knows Onana very well because the two of them used to work together when Ten Hag was still coaching Ajax.

Actually, the majority of players recruited by ten hag so far are good players, including their defenders, but for some reason it seems that they were only able to show good performance when they first joined and over time their performance actually declined drastically as it is today, the number of goals conceded at Manchester United at the moment of course we cannot blame individuals by Onana,  But indeed with their current squad, of course, we should question, how the scheme and game strategy applied by Ten Hag so far so that they can be so slumped.
One thing with football and majorly every other sports games that is being played by a group as a team like basketball, volleyball and so on, one thing with such type of games is that, it takes good team work for players to be at their best at all time.

For example, it's like being the best in something in a particular location, and when you move to another location, you discover that there are actually some persons there who are almost as good as you are in that thing, or even better than you, such motivates and pushes you to want scale even harder so as to continue to remain relevant in that field, else, you lose your position to someone else.

When a good player joins a club where players already in that club are under-performing, there is a high chance that after some time, that good player will start under-performing too because there is nothing or no one motivating him or her to keep working hard  to maintain his or her previous high performance.

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June 25, 2024, 06:22:20 PM
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Did you say Manchester United was compensated with a trophy or they won it. Why are you talking down on the success of Manchester United. If they had lost, we would all bash them as well. But now they won, it has become a compensation. That's by the way.

The day Manchester united played Manchester City where you not surprised that they won that FA cup match? I was and I loss money that day because something in me see that game as a sympathy to give Erik some credit score for the season since they never win anything for the season and Manchester City feels they don't need it. If not for that match, we wouldn't be having the conversation of Erik been the next manager of Manchester united.


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Honestly, I have never known of Anthony's nick name "spin and win". It's funny LOL. That skill is very annoying when the team is not leading. So, he does the unnecessary skill when it is not needed. Manchester United might not make top 4 this season if they depend on players like Anthony to lead the way

If you look at troll fan pages, they use it a lot with many GIF. There is this particular one that is too goated the day they played against Arsenal. So many memes around it on different social media most especially on Twitter.


 
He think he is him.  Grin

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June 25, 2024, 06:41:57 PM
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It is difficult to finish in the top four, but United must have a good goal to keep them motivated. I believe the top four EPL in the upcoming season will be a reasonable ambition for United to achieve following the bad result recorded by united last season, and Ten Hag is still working on how to achieve that goal during the summer transfer season.

About Anthony, and I missed him when he did this.Cheesy



As long as MU has Anthony,and they will always win at least one trophy in each season.  Cheesy
So funny Grin

People here call Anthony spin and win because of his ridiculous spinning skill amd whenever i hear the name i just burst into laughter. He is snow a laughing stock here in my area and it got worse when he only managed a single for an entire season.

It was a disappointing season for Manchester United but they were later compensated with a trophy and it is more than enough to serve as a motivation for the players to put in more effort next season. It is not impossible to make top 4 next season but Ten Hag needs to put in more work if they want to achieve that.
Did you say Manchester United was compensated with a trophy or they won it. Why are you talking down on the success of Manchester United. If they had lost, we would all bash them as well. But now they won, it has become a compensation. That's by the way.

Honestly, I have never known of Anthony's nick name "spin and win". It's funny LOL. That skill is very annoying when the team is not leading. So, he does the unnecessary skill when it is not needed. Manchester United might not make top 4 this season if they depend on players like Anthony to lead the way
Anthony is one of the most criticized transfers in Manchester United. I guess Manchester United has never received so much efficiency from an offensive player. If Sancho had been given the opportunity he was given, I think Sancho could have done better. Anthony still remains with the Red Devils along with Erik Ten Hag. If a coach leaves the team, the new coach will probably leave him.

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June 25, 2024, 06:42:39 PM
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There are so many factors that influence. Transfers of players from outside the EPL do not always make the best contribution. This is because of the differences in the characters playing each league. They could not adjust to the fast tempo of the EPL. So I think the player transfers that Ten Hag made don't seem to be effective either. His project failed plus many players were injured.  Man United's suffering is complete.  But 1 trophy seems to be able to make the management change their minds.
Most players from outside the EPL will have difficulty adapting to the game in the EPL which relies on speed and physical strength, some top players have failed to shine in the EPL due to having difficulty adapting to the style of play there. Radamel Falcao, Juan Cuadrado and De Maria are some of the players who failed to shine in the EPL. Manchester United in Ten Hag hands was not very successful even though they managed to win the FA Cup trophy, but management still has hope for him to continue the project for next season. I think this is the last chance given by the Club management, Ten Hag must repay the trust placed in him with achievements if he wants his position to remain safe.

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June 25, 2024, 07:16:02 PM
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Ten Hag may not yet be able to prove that he is the right coach for Man United because last season Man United could not be consistent throughout the season and they even had to finish in 8th place which is the worst ever Premier League finish since 1990. Even so, what Ten Hag has been able to achieve in the last 2 seasons, I think is worthy enough to give him another chance because not many coaches after Ferguson's era could give trophies, while Ten Hag could get 2 trophies.

Maybe he is the right one maybe he really isn't. We will find out next season.  Smiley  Managers need time and the conditions they are facing are also playing an important role in their success.

Last season was pretty challenging for Manchester United. You know, they faced serious injury issues. I remember so many names being absent for a long time. Especially the defense area was affected quite badly from that. Aside from that, Erik ten Hag needs a stronger squad with necessary transfers. I see he is focusing on defenders lately which is a thing I appreciate. Because this was their main issue considering how many goals they conceded in the PL.  Sad

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June 25, 2024, 09:59:24 PM
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Ten Hag may not yet be able to prove that he is the right coach for Man United because last season Man United could not be consistent throughout the season and they even had to finish in 8th place which is the worst ever Premier League finish since 1990. Even so, what Ten Hag has been able to achieve in the last 2 seasons, I think is worthy enough to give him another chance because not many coaches after Ferguson's era could give trophies, while Ten Hag could get 2 trophies.

Maybe he is the right one maybe he really isn't. We will find out next season.  Smiley  Managers need time and the conditions they are facing are also playing an important role in their success.
Yeah, indeed, for it is often said that one cannot easily tell how a race will end simply by just going by the way it started.
I've not really been into Manchester united matches, I mean, I don't really give them that much attention but going by what I know so far, I personally think Ten Hag needs more time to really get his shit together, he could really be a good coach afterall.

It's just like some one who moved into a new neighborhood, he or she will need time to get to know his or her neighbors very well, before he or she gradually start to blend in in the activities that often happens in that neighborhood.
Manchester united, alongside Chelsea, used to be the greatest on the premiere league, but alot have changed so far, more like every club having their time to shine, and right now seems to be the turn of Manchester city to shine, maybe soon, the shine will go back to Manchester united again.

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June 26, 2024, 03:50:41 AM
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Maybe he is the right one maybe he really isn't. We will find out next season.  Smiley  Managers need time and the conditions they are facing are also playing an important role in their success.

Last season was pretty challenging for Manchester United. You know, they faced serious injury issues. I remember so many names being absent for a long time. Especially the defense area was affected quite badly from that. Aside from that, Erik ten Hag needs a stronger squad with necessary transfers. I see he is focusing on defenders lately which is a thing I appreciate. Because this was their main issue considering how many goals they conceded in the PL.  Sad
I can't say that Manchester United management's decision to retain Ten Hag was the best or worst decision. Manchester United performance in the EPL was very disappointing considering their position at the end of the season, but he was also able to present the FA Cup trophy to Manchester United after beating Manchester City in the final. Manchester United success next season depends on Ten Hag. He, who has just received support from management to continue his career there, must make Manchester United improve its performance to provide competition for the top four positions.

The player injury factor is something that the coach does not expect, but he must be ready to face whatever happens in his squad in order to be responsible for the best performance. Ten Hag needs to focus more on building a defense that opens up too many gaps, he also needs to find a midfielder who can help the front line to achieve the team's goals. Player transfers also need to be carried out to strengthen the team in several lines, especially the front line which seems to have difficulty scoring goals. Ten Hag must be more active in directing his players to maintain their performance in order to achieve success.

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Unlike the previous season, when David De Gea was still Man United's goalkeeper, the club did not concede as many goals as last season. If Erik Ten Hag had not replaced him with Andre Onana, the club would not have experienced as many problems.

Blaming Onana completely is actually also bad. I think there are many factors when Man United concede a lot this season. You have to remember this season there are not many Man United defenders in good shape. Many Man United players are injured. So it was purely in the team not Onana. Ten Hag's strategy also has a lot of blunders. The players made a lot of mistakes. The flow of the ball from below does not go well, possession is easily lost. When under tight pressure, Man United is always weak to protect the ball. Many players are confused about where the ball will be given. It's a classic problem but Ten Hag has to work hard to eliminate these mistakes.

Onana did remarkably well in the middle of the season; it was unjust to hold him responsible for everything bad that happened to the united. To be honest, United's lack of a strong defensive line last season was one of the main reasons for their poor performances, even breaking the record for the most conceded goals in United history.

And many of United's defenders injuries greatly affected the team's performance. Ten Hag made some incorrect decisions, but the injured players made him do so.

Any factor contributing to United's poor performance in the previous season makes it challenging to blame Onana alone. 
Of course, not only Onana, but Onana also demoralized the entire team with some critical mistakes he made. He fell short of the performance expected from him. The mistakes he made at UCL are still in my mind. Onana is one of those responsible for Manchester United, which was eliminated from the UCL. I think the defense should be strengthened, yes, but alternative people should also be discussed as goalkeepers.



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June 26, 2024, 08:13:54 AM
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Most players from outside the EPL will have difficulty adapting to the game in the EPL which relies on speed and physical strength, some top players have failed to shine in the EPL due to having difficulty adapting to the style of play there. Radamel Falcao, Juan Cuadrado and De Maria are some of the players who failed to shine in the EPL. Manchester United in Ten Hag hands was not very successful even though they managed to win the FA Cup trophy, but management still has hope for him to continue the project for next season. I think this is the last chance given by the Club management, Ten Hag must repay the trust placed in him with achievements if he wants his position to remain safe.

Talking about players outside the English Premier League who can perform well but fail in this league, it cannot be denied, apart from the names you have mentioned. Currently, some players have not been able to perform brilliantly even though they were bought at a fairly high price and that is because of their appearance so brilliant at their previous club that their current club believed they could perform well and contribute as expected but apparently failed, there is Mudryk at Chelsea and also Darwin Nunez at Liverpool.

Mudryk was bought by Chelsea at a high price from Shakhtar Donetsk, apart from the fact that this club was also going through bad times, which made Mudryk look even worse, but also when playing Mudryk doesn't appear worth the price to bring him to this club.
Nunez may still be better but he was still not Klopp's first choice in the previous two seasons. Liverpool were just luckier than Chelsea because Nunez had progressed in his second season.

It seems like the clubs in the English league value the players they are targeting outside this league too highly, that's why when they don't perform well it will make the player look bad because the price will described the expectations for the player.

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June 26, 2024, 08:46:11 AM
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What is poor will remain poor, there is no need to give excuses for failure. There are other teams that had players in injury and they still perform better. In the beginning of the season when most of the important players were active, it's not like Erik was killing it so I don't think the room of excuse i necessary. Let's even use Manchester City as example, Kevin had injury and their midfield becomes incompleted as Haaland wasn't doing well but his personal performance never stop them from winning, they improvise.

I just think the club will do what they want even though people drop their opinion but if they continue this way, the team are very far from reaching the Champions League, not even next season but if they buy and sell some players, there might be some changes. I will like to see that guy called Onana dispose immediately, that's there number one red flag they are not taking into consideration.

It isn't an excuse for having an unsuccessful season. It is a reason for it.  Smiley  Then what do you think bigger names than Erik ten Hag would be able to do in the same situation? Would they fight for the title anyway despite having a big number of injuries?

When it comes to your Manchester City example... You are missing a point here. There is an enormous gap between the squad qualities of Manchester City and Manchester United. Even when they didn't have De Bruyne, Guardiola didn't face big problems. Because he still had a squad full of stars to make up for the weaknesses.

But it isn't the same for the Red Devils. They already had to improve their squad and those injuries made things much worse.  Sad

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