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September 19, 2023, 03:30:16 AM
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@klidex while I don’t expect Ten Hag to be sacked just yet but I won’t be surprised if at some stage Manchester United get rid of him because of his ego we only target player’s he’s played with irrespective of the fact whether they’ll be a good fit or not classic example: Anthony.
I think Man United management won't think to sack him in the near future. It won't be easy to find out the proper replacement. They must learn something from Chelsea which never got a proper coach for the team. I'm sure Ten Hag is still good enough for Man United, the problem is the players' quality. Man United have bad quality on the defense line, they also don't have strong striker.

Anyway Antony played quite well for Man United. He is one of the wingers that has a big role. The bad thing of this player is about his attitude, I think Ten Hag know well how to deal with him. Sadly, Antony is suspended now, it is also because of his bad attitude too. He must learn seriously from this case.

Lastly he keeps on speaking of plan’s yet throws the player’s in the fire line instead of accepting the blame for poor tactics and wasn’t he the one who said Manchester United were wrong not to play Donny and look at what he did and while people say that Donny is a flop compare his preseason record vs Mount and you’ll see why Donny was way better yet to satisfy Ten Hag the club bought Mount.
Ten Hag may choose the players that fits with his tactic. I don't want to compare Donny and Mount, both are good players. I think Man United midfielders are good enough, it is still better than their defense line. For me, the main problem of Man United is in their defense. I don't know why they look very weak, they always conceded 3 goals in the last 2 matches (against Arsenal and Brighton).



@TelolettOm fear of not getting a replacement should not stop them from pulling the trigger if Manchester United continue to lose too many game’s but in the short term he’ll survive but can he survive till the end of the season is highly doubtful if such results continue. Furthermore Anthony is not at all good game after game he plays the same way and opposite team’s have long figured out his style and yea Martinez badly need’s Varane to unlock his potential but not sure when Varane will be back.
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September 19, 2023, 04:04:52 AM
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@klidex while I don’t expect Ten Hag to be sacked just yet but I won’t be surprised if at some stage Manchester United get rid of him because of his ego we only target player’s he’s played with irrespective of the fact whether they’ll be a good fit or not classic example: Anthony.
I think Man United management won't think to sack him in the near future. It won't be easy to find out the proper replacement. They must learn something from Chelsea which never got a proper coach for the team. I'm sure Ten Hag is still good enough for Man United, the problem is the players' quality. Man United have bad quality on the defense line, they also don't have strong striker.
The problem currently facing Manchester United is that too many of their core players are injured, this condition makes Ten Hag a little overwhelmed in forming a solid squad. Due to Manchester United failure to win in several games, Ten Hag is the first person to be blamed, but it is also necessary to review the current condition of the team.
Apart from being hit by player injury problems, Manchester United is also being hit by internal problems. Disharmony between players and coaches can have a negative effect on team performance. Management's trust in coaches has limits, if Ten Hag does not immediately return Manchester United to its best performance, it is very likely that the Manchester United coaching chair will be occupied by someone else.

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September 19, 2023, 04:49:24 AM
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@klidex while I don’t expect Ten Hag to be sacked just yet but I won’t be surprised if at some stage Manchester United get rid of him because of his ego we only target player’s he’s played with irrespective of the fact whether they’ll be a good fit or not classic example: Anthony.
I think Man United management won't think to sack him in the near future. It won't be easy to find out the proper replacement. They must learn something from Chelsea which never got a proper coach for the team. I'm sure Ten Hag is still good enough for Man United, the problem is the players' quality. Man United have bad quality on the defense line, they also don't have strong striker.
The problem currently facing Manchester United is that too many of their core players are injured, this condition makes Ten Hag a little overwhelmed in forming a solid squad. Due to Manchester United failure to win in several games, Ten Hag is the first person to be blamed, but it is also necessary to review the current condition of the team.
Apart from being hit by player injury problems, Manchester United is also being hit by internal problems. Disharmony between players and coaches can have a negative effect on team performance. Management's trust in coaches has limits, if Ten Hag does not immediately return Manchester United to its best performance, it is very likely that the Manchester United coaching chair will be occupied by someone else.

I think, is too early to say that Manchester united will not end well in this season because anything can still happen that will make their players to begin to perform well to be among the top teams in the premier league table. I know Manchester united coach made some mistakes the type of players he used to start the match, which is not helping the team to improve well like other teams that is maintaining a good position from the beginning of the season without allowed any team to defeat them. I don't think, Manchester united president will allow another person to take over Ten Hag position in this season, because he has something good to offer to Manchester united if they can give him more time to train the players very well in a way they can withstand any strong teams in the premier league and other competitions.

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September 19, 2023, 10:22:20 AM
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I think, is too early to say that Manchester united will not end well in this season because anything can still happen that will make their players to begin to perform well to be among the top teams in the premier league table. I know Manchester united coach made some mistakes the type of players he used to start the match, which is not helping the team to improve well like other teams that is maintaining a good position from the beginning of the season without allowed any team to defeat them. I don't think, Manchester united president will allow another person to take over Ten Hag position in this season, because he has something good to offer to Manchester united if they can give him more time to train the players very well in a way they can withstand any strong teams in the premier league and other competitions.

and we also have to remember last season when Man United was in a condition like this which looked bad but after approaching the end of the season MU improved its performance so that it could end last season in 3rd place in the premier league standings even though previously MU was at the bottom with its poor performance.
well, with the events of last season we can use it as a lesson to provide opportunities and stop any bullying against Ten Hag because after all this coach has everything that all Man United players need, such as strategies and tactics that can provide success at end of this season and all hope still lies with Man United and their coach.

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September 19, 2023, 01:40:48 PM
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In today's Premier League match, Nottm Forest vs Burnley, I enjoyed a very beautiful match between two teams. The players of both teams performed equally in today's match. For which neither team could compare in today's match. Burnley was ahead by one goal before halftime.  The first goal was scored by Z. Amdouni in the 41st minute. After halftime, C. Hudson-Odoi of Nottm Forest team scored 1 goal in the 61st minute to draw the match. After that, neither team could score so the points were shared between the two teams.


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September 19, 2023, 04:18:53 PM
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In today's Premier League match, Nottm Forest vs Burnley, I enjoyed a very beautiful match between two teams. The players of both teams performed equally in today's match. For which neither team could compare in today's match. Burnley was ahead by one goal before halftime.  The first goal was scored by Z. Amdouni in the 41st minute. After halftime, C. Hudson-Odoi of Nottm Forest team scored 1 goal in the 61st minute to draw the match. After that, neither team could score so the points were shared between the two teams.
It is a shame that Nottingham Forest could not take advantage of this match to achieve victory even though Nottingham Forest acted as host. Moreover, 1 Burley player received a red card and Nottingham Forest was unable to take advantage of the opportunities that existed. Even though in terms of player composition, Nottingham Forest was clearly the favorite in the match, but in the end it only ended in a draw.

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September 19, 2023, 04:31:21 PM
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In today's Premier League match, Nottm Forest vs Burnley, I enjoyed a very beautiful match between two teams. The players of both teams performed equally in today's match. For which neither team could compare in today's match. Burnley was ahead by one goal before halftime.  The first goal was scored by Z. Amdouni in the 41st minute. After halftime, C. Hudson-Odoi of Nottm Forest team scored 1 goal in the 61st minute to draw the match. After that, neither team could score so the points were shared between the two teams.
It is a shame that Nottingham Forest could not take advantage of this match to achieve victory even though Nottingham Forest acted as host. Moreover, 1 Burley player received a red card and Nottingham Forest was unable to take advantage of the opportunities that existed. Even though in terms of player composition, Nottingham Forest was clearly the favorite in the match, but in the end it only ended in a draw.

Although Nottingham played at home but still, in this match no team was really favored to win. Also, about the red card that received to Burnley, but the truth is that the red card happened in the +90th minute. So yes, even though Burnley played with only 10 players but still, there was nothing Nottingham could do in the +90th minute because it was very close to the end of the match. After all, their head to head record is that no team really dominates the winning. So, the results they get in this match, at least become a reasonable and decent final result for them too. Because yes, in my personal assessment even though Burnley is a promotion team this season but I am sure, that Nottingham and Burnley have qualities that are not much different. Therefore, there is nothing to regret about the draw result that occurred in this match.

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What happened to Manchester United? As a Manchester United fan, I am very frustrated watching this match. Playing at home, MU was badly humiliated by Brighton. Manchester United have lost twice in a row after falling at home to Arsenal also with the same score 3-1 before the international break. This was MU's third defeat in just the first five matches in the Premier League.
Man, honestly, when I was watching the match of Manchester United, believe me, I laughed out loud and thought that I was really watching a match of Manchester United or an Everton-Burnley match. But well, if we look at the match status, Manchester United made more shots than Brighton, but the problem is that Brighton players hit the shots on their targeted targets while Manchester United players wasted them on the wrong side of the net. From all above, overly proud player 😂 Marco Rashford has made the game so audacious with his poor performance status. I hope this time will also go by, and I am waiting for a good time to rebuild the club. Your time will come, Red Devil.


Is it appropriate for Erik Ten Hag to be fired from his position as coach?
In my opinion, Erick Ten Hag needs some time to improve. There are many mansions in tactics as well as players. But in fact, I think that if Manchester United have done nothing against Bayern Munich in the UEFA Champions League, it doesn't seem that they will keep Ten Hag as their coach. 

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and we also have to remember last season when Man United was in a condition like this which looked bad but after approaching the end of the season MU improved its performance so that it could end last season in 3rd place in the premier league standings even though previously MU was at the bottom with its poor performance.
well, with the events of last season we can use it as a lesson to provide opportunities and stop any bullying against Ten Hag because after all this coach has everything that all Man United players need, such as strategies and tactics that can provide success at end of this season and all hope still lies with Man United and their coach.
Yes, the chance of returning to top form is still enough to have time. Although it is possible to compete to be the champion is difficult. They still have time to heal injured players. Then bring in new players in the middle of the season. So this is my reason why I agree with you. It's just the beginning of a season that has a lot of games and a long time. But there is another disadvantage that makes it difficult for them to become champions. It's out of Erik Ten Hag's control.
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Yes, the chance of returning to top form is still enough to have time. Although it is possible to compete to be the champion is difficult. They still have time to heal injured players. Then bring in new players in the middle of the season. So this is my reason why I agree with you. It's just the beginning of a season that has a lot of games and a long time. But there is another disadvantage that makes it difficult for them to become champions. It's out of Erik Ten Hag's control.
well, thats what I mean is that the journey to the EPL match is still very long and Ten Hag still has a lot of opportunities to improve Man United performance in the future and yes, maybe you are right if Ten Hag has the expertise or has the task of improving or improving the quality of Man United performance but to become champion in the EPL is very difficult and only luck can change MU fate.



btw, this weekend match is a bit interesting and seems convincing to bet on the Man City vs Nottingham match. In the early stages of this season, Man City can always secure 3 points to beat their opponents, even though they are playing away from home, Guardiola always has the right plan and betting on Man City will be very profitable, even though the odds are small, there are other options to get bigger odds. lets predict together.

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September 22, 2023, 12:15:32 PM
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well, thats what I mean is that the journey to the EPL match is still very long and Ten Hag still has a lot of opportunities to improve Man United performance in the future and yes, maybe you are right if Ten Hag has the expertise or has the task of improving or improving the quality of Man United performance but to become champion in the EPL is very difficult and only luck can change MU fate.



btw, this weekend match is a bit interesting and seems convincing to bet on the Man City vs Nottingham match. In the early stages of this season, Man City can always secure 3 points to beat their opponents, even though they are playing away from home, Guardiola always has the right plan and betting on Man City will be very profitable, even though the odds are small, there are other options to get bigger odds. lets predict together.

 For now the Manchester United manager has to work with the options he has and try as much as possible to secure some points before it's to late to qualify for the top 6 because because if they fail to do so they might end up finishing 10 or so and as for becoming the Champions this season it would take a miracle for that to come through they might only be able to secure a spot in the top 4, anyway Manchester United are the favorites in their next match and i expect them to win Burnley.
 
 Nottingham Forest is not a match for Manchester City and they could easily beat Forest even with few of their key players, im not underestimating Forest but im just saying based on City's performance recently, they haven't lost any match since the league started and they're currently on of the most inform team in the world there i think City would win with 2 or 3 more goals.

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 Arsenal will play hosts to Ange Postecoglou's men on Sunday and while I'm tipping the Gunners to take home the three points, I know Tottenham won't go down without a fight. We've seen impressive play from them and in their last five games they have won four and drawn one. Arsenal will not only need to tighten their defenses but ensure they employ the use of counter attacks as well.
 Coming from the high of their euphoric 4-0 win against PSV in the champions league, I expect that they won't underestimate Tottenham Hotspur even though they beat them last season and they hardly lose when they are at home. We can see that there are more clubs who are hungry for the title than the usual Man City, Man UTD, Liverpool and Arsenal we used to know in other seasons.

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Arsenal will play hosts to Ange Postecoglou's men on Sunday and while I'm tipping the Gunners to take home the three points, I know Tottenham won't go down without a fight. We've seen impressive play from them and in their last five games they have won four and drawn one. Arsenal will not only need to tighten their defenses but ensure they employ the use of counter attacks as well.
 Coming from the high of their euphoric 4-0 win against PSV in the champions league, I expect that they won't underestimate Tottenham Hotspur even though they beat them last season and they hardly lose when they are at home. We can see that there are more clubs who are hungry for the title than the usual Man City, Man UTD, Liverpool and Arsenal we used to know in other seasons.
Indeed,there is going to be a fight on Sunday between these two North London clubs,and if Arsenal are to take home the three points,they must be well prepared knowing fully well that they are facing a side that has not lost to any team this season,and as such,must ensure they do everything possible to get a goal before Totthenham does, because that is what's going to give them the three points,if Totthenham should score before them,it will definitely be a big problem for them.
And secondly,They must know that in as much as they will be doing the playing, Totthenham will be more interested in the counter attacking because they know they can't posses the midfield than Arsenal will do.

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I'm only looking forward to watch two games this weekend

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Liverpool vs West ham.

Arsenal game is going to be action packed. Both teams have been in fine form recently so it would be really interesting to see who would triumph between the two.

For Liverpool game, I'm really hoping we win and playing at Anfield will give up the advantage since winning at anfield for opposing teams is a really big deal.

For others, Man city win, Chelsea and Man Utd, no expectations.

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September 22, 2023, 11:11:38 PM
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I'm only looking forward to watch two games this weekend

Arsenal vs Tottenham.
Liverpool vs West ham.

Arsenal game is going to be action packed. Both teams have been in fine form recently so it would be really interesting to see who would triumph between the two.
The encounter between Arsenal and Tottenham will be intense and full of tension over who will win the three points in the end. With five games played so far, both teams have played and have the the same 13 points after winning four and drawing one.
Even though the match will be tough and unpredictable to which club that owes the 3 points. I will be in the same vein, continue to pledge my support to any team that will end up winning or losing the match because they both have performed wonderfully from the start of the season.

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September 22, 2023, 11:27:47 PM
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I'm only looking forward to watch two games this weekend

Arsenal vs Tottenham.
Liverpool vs West ham.

Arsenal game is going to be action packed. Both teams have been in fine form recently so it would be really interesting to see who would triumph between the two.

For Liverpool game, I'm really hoping we win and playing at Anfield will give up the advantage since winning at anfield for opposing teams is a really big deal.

For others, Man city win, Chelsea and Man Utd, no expectations.

Liverpool is playing better than last season. I saw that if the club has good chemistry at this moment. Liverpool may able to beat westham only if the club will be playing consistently as westham is now going up as a better team in EPL. It was almost making manchester city struggle at home.
Westham needs to take care of liverpool caused by moyes's squad really needs point as well. It's hard to predict which team that will win the game but as a bettor and i don't wanna take the risk by picking liverpool

Took btts for both of matches will be the wise decision for me. It's hard to predict the outcome from liverpool vs westham and arsenal vs totenham.
It's very easy to predict city but not for chelsea and united as these clubs are still under perform at this moment.


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September 23, 2023, 06:23:34 AM
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I'm only looking forward to watch two games this weekend

Arsenal vs Tottenham.
Liverpool vs West ham.

Arsenal game is going to be action packed. Both teams have been in fine form recently so it would be really interesting to see who would triumph between the two.
The encounter between Arsenal and Tottenham will be intense and full of tension over who will win the three points in the end. With five games played so far, both teams have played and have the the same 13 points after winning four and drawing one.
Even though the match will be tough and unpredictable to which club that owes the 3 points. I will be in the same vein, continue to pledge my support to any team that will end up winning or losing the match because they both have performed wonderfully from the start of the season.
The Liverpool game is going to be very interesting as well.Liverpool have been in a superb form this season winning all their matches and drawing just one,while WestHam have shown real qualities by winning tough opponents.Salah and Nunez has been so good together this season,but their effort will be put to test again today  as they face a tough side that has done incredibly well, surprising Everyone with their performance this season.
I know they actually made some signings that added more strength to their team,but that will also be put to test when they face Liverpool today.If I am to predict,I will go for Liverpool to win this one by 2-1.

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September 23, 2023, 09:49:28 AM
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The Liverpool game is going to be very interesting as well.Liverpool have been in a superb form this season winning all their matches and drawing just one,while WestHam have shown real qualities by winning tough opponents.Salah and Nunez has been so good together this season,but their effort will be put to test again today  as they face a tough side that has done incredibly well, surprising Everyone with their performance this season.
I know they actually made some signings that added more strength to their team,but that will also be put to test when they face Liverpool today.If I am to predict,I will go for Liverpool to win this one by 2-1.
It's true that West Ham is showing promising performance, Liverpool must make good use of the moment at home. Losing Declan Rice did not have a significant impact on David Moyes squad, the Hammers are still quite stable and have only suffered one defeat so far in the EPL. If you look at the meeting record, the Reds are still very superior, but Jurgen Klop must remain alert if he doesn't want to stumble in front of his own supporters.

I'm in line with you, it looks like Liverpool will win with a score of 2-1. Salah and his friends must try hard to reduce points and stick closely to Man City at the top of the standings, West Ham will be a test of their consistency in the sixth week.

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September 23, 2023, 01:26:47 PM
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and we also have to remember last season when Man United was in a condition like this which looked bad but after approaching the end of the season MU improved its performance so that it could end last season in 3rd place in the premier league standings even though previously MU was at the bottom with its poor performance.
well, with the events of last season we can use it as a lesson to provide opportunities and stop any bullying against Ten Hag because after all this coach has everything that all Man United players need, such as strategies and tactics that can provide success at end of this season and all hope still lies with Man United and their coach.
Yes, the chance of returning to top form is still enough to have time. Although it is possible to compete to be the champion is difficult. They still have time to heal injured players. Then bring in new players in the middle of the season. So this is my reason why I agree with you. It's just the beginning of a season that has a lot of games and a long time. But there is another disadvantage that makes it difficult for them to become champions. It's out of Erik Ten Hag's control.
I have said it many times, the MU's blunder is not its players, it is Ten Hag, if they do not change Tne Hag the MU will never be able to win anything, that is something that everyone knows, they are no longer the devils Reds, when they go to play in UCL matches they see it as a team to safely take points from them, they can play well, yes, they can do it, because they have very good players, Casemiroo, Bruno, Garnacho, they are players who perform and that everyone would like to have them on their teams, but under a management that is not allowed to succeed, they will just succeed. Against Bayern they played relatively well, but they can play much better, even with that quality of group that they have It is quite what they could achieve, in this order of ideas we can say that things when it comes to how to make a good team scheme to be a champion, the MU have it, but I don't see Ten Hagm as a champion, at least not for now.

In the UCL I recently saw a demonstration of good football by Bayern, I know that they are depending a lot on a player like Harry Kane, because for everything he is the main gunner of this, if there is no other way of looking at things I think the best team that is prepared until now to be champion or that can go very far according to what I see Madrid and Barcelona are, I see them very well for these things, since they are a fairly balanced team and can do many things well.

I also saw a PSG that does not perform, that lacks ideas, that has a lot to prove, that for me they play from one side to another without any sense, I saw them with more lack of strategy, of ideas, in reality to me The football that Luis Enrique is imposing seems deficient to me and is not attractive, they win because they have Mbappé but I don't know what they could do when he is no longer here, because there are many things that have not yet been corrected, I see many players succeed, and players promises, but apparently they are in very wrong teams, and wrong thanks to their coach.

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What do you all think about today's fixtures well in my opinion I think Manchester city are going to win Nottingham Forest and with a good number of goals about 2-4 goals, Nottingham don't stand a chance against them so i don't think they'll score a goal, Crystal Palace are playing at home which gives them more advantage over Fulham but i feel the match might end up draw or a win in favour of Fulham, Luton are the least performing club and got zero points in the league this season and therefore they're going to be defeated by Wolverhampton,as for the match between Brentford and Everton, I think Brentford stands better chance of winning their performance is far better than that of Everton who are in the relegation zone currently so they got better chance but Everton are fighting hard to leave the relegation zone and could make it tough for Brentford like they did with Arsenal' in their last match so it might end draw, lastly i think Manchester United will comfortably win Burnley.

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