⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽

[Pulsar77]

It's halftime at the Villa park. Liverpool got lucky in the first 1 minute to take the lead via a Martinez mistake. Despite the equalizer from Tielemans shortly, Liverpool got in front again from a Gakpo goal. Even though Liverpool is barely fighting for anything (can't go up or down at this point) other than to finish Klopp's last away game strongly, I've enjoy the game so far since it's been competitive as Villa needs a win to cement their UCL slot for next season.

And even more surprising, Joe Gomez gave the assist for Liverpool's second goal. I'm still looking forward to the day he'd get the first goal of his club career probably still in a Liverpool's jersey 

Second half soon.

Doesn't it feel like Liverpool have started to play more comfortably after losing their chance for the PL title?    It really feels like that for me honestly.

While they were in the title race they were making more mistakes. They lost points in really unbelievable matches and gave up on the league too early. Now we see that Liverpool are beating one of the toughest teams this season. This shouldn't have been the way for Klopp to say goodbye but there is nothing to do.    There was some tension between him and Salah recently too so I wonder if they have worked it out.

[Antotena]

Tottenham will be one of the toughest opponents for Manchester city in rest match, currently Tottenham has a very big ambition to be able to play in the Champions League next season, currently Tottenham Hotspur still has a big chance of being able to shift Aston Villa's position in the top 4 at the moment. So of course they will try to win against Manchester City, but still expecting Manchester City to draw let alone lose is of course a difficult thing because Manchester City performance is currently in pretty good form, especially after Manchester City was knocked out of the Champions League, of course they will focus their attention on the English League trophy this season.

The same Tottenham that Arsenal beat to 3 goals to 1 or there is another Tottenham in another place? The same Tottenham that had 4 losses in a row and had 1 win against Burnley a relegation team is what you guys think will teach Manchester City a lesson? A team that has not lose match as of recent and want to win the Premier League, if this is not capping then I think you are fan of Tottenham and you are only trying to defend them.

However, I think Arsenal shouldn't have too much hope that Tottenham will be able to beat Manchester City in that the match, because as we know so far, the rivalry that has occurred between Arsenal and Tottenham has been more in terms of prestige, so far the rivalry that has occurred between Tottenham and Arsenal Of course it is possible that make tottenham will not try seriously to achieve victory in order to maintain their prestige and also the feelings of their fans if Arsenal can win the English League this season.

There is nothing wrong for hope but what matters is the outcome, the zeal that Manchester City is having to win the Premier League is morr than Tottenham dream to play in the Champions League. Forget that Aston villa is losing tonight to Liverpool, that was expected but it doesn't in any way makes Tottenham beat Manchester City, it's their home match but their is nothing going to be special about that match.

[beerlover]

I have always looked towards that as a means for Arsenal to win the Premier League Competition. But its okay with three poi if they cannot get those goals, one last game against Sean Dyche and Everton lads at home in presence of the fans I'm sure Everton will want to be compact.
Eveton is also a club who deserves them flowers because despite all of thr point deduction and stuff's they're still in a good position band place safe from relegation.
I think, if Sean Dyche is supported with some quality players that suits his style he will do excellent next season.

It's also been a long time, since Arsenal did the double against Manchester United, you don't know how much those gunners valued this win even with a single margin.
They have fought for this, they have earned it, they definitely deserves it

As for the game tonight, Aston Villa will want to defeat Liverpool to seal them place on the top four but will that be possible? Jurgen Klopp has to keep a clean slate as he decides to leave even if he is no longer in the fight for the  Premier League Competition next season.
Meanwhile, Arsenal will be supporting Tottenham Hotspur on Wednesday night, but Manchester City are definitely going away from home, they have to be very cautious. I can remember Antonio Conte's side defeating them some seasons back with good numbers. Could this be another, it all depends on how focus theey be for this game.

Arsenal is doing great, they have gathered a lot of points as well, amazing run so far but the fact is that City is so great that they end up still not doing all that great, which is why I think it is quite obvious that we are going to get this type of results in the end, it is not going to be all that complicated in the end.

This is why I believe that we should consider how Arsenal is getting a second place as a good victory for them, not a bad deal and should be considered as a good result for them. Sure they would want to be the champions, but they should not be sad to miss that championship, they should be happy. City is just an another level team, and they are just getting this much points because they are always good.

[Spaceman1000$]

The match is the last hope of Arsenal for Manchester City to drop points. It's a reasonable hope, because Tottenham have a good record against Manchester City in last few seasons. Tottenham have the importance to win the match, because they still want to keep their chance to play in Champions League next season. It's certainly a deciding game where the win of Manchester City will closing them to the title.

Both of the teams are under pressure to win, Manchester City have experiences in handling this kind of pressure, while Tottenham couldn't play their best performance when they play a crucial game. Aston Villa have a chance to drop points again as they have to face Liverpool tonight. If Aston Villa win, Tottenham's chance to play in Champions League next season will finally be over.

 

Tottenham will be one of the toughest opponents for Manchester city in rest match, currently Tottenham has a very big ambition to be able to play in the Champions League next season, currently Tottenham Hotspur still has a big chance of being able to shift Aston Villa's position in the top 4 at the moment. So of course they will try to win against Manchester City, but still expecting Manchester City to draw let alone lose is of course a difficult thing because Manchester City performance is currently in pretty good form, especially after Manchester City was knocked out of the Champions League, of course they will focus their attention on the English League trophy this season.

 However, I think Arsenal shouldn't have too much hope that Tottenham will be able to beat Manchester City in that the match, because as we know so far, the rivalry that has occurred between Arsenal and Tottenham has been more in terms of prestige, so far the rivalry that has occurred between Tottenham and Arsenal Of course it is possible that make tottenham will not try seriously to achieve victory in order to maintain their prestige and also the feelings of their fans if Arsenal can win the English League this season.

Liverpool are currently winning Aston villa 3-1. this victory will certainly Push Tottenham to at least get a win against Manchester city so they could get close to the top four, if Tottenham eventually win Manchester city which is highly unlikely, they will be behind Aston villa with just one point with two games remaining. More so, if Tottenham succeed in winning those remaining two games, it will definitely land them a place in the top four at the end of the season, else Aston villa will be maintain that fourth position. So the game between Tottenham Hotspur and Manchester City is more like a war of attrition, as both teams will seriously be at loggerahead with each other.

[kawetsriyanto]

Doesn't it feel like Liverpool have started to play more comfortably after losing their chance for the PL title?    It really feels like that for me honestly.

While they were in the title race they were making more mistakes. They lost points in really unbelievable matches and gave up on the league too early. Now we see that Liverpool are beating one of the toughest teams this season. This shouldn't have been the way for Klopp to say goodbye but there is nothing to do.    There was some tension between him and Salah recently too so I wonder if they have worked it out.

Liverpool already made too many mistakes, they missed many points. I don't know what's happening with Liverpool and Klopp. I think they may have an internal problem, the players have no good relationships among them. And they also feel worried with the future of Liverpool because they know Klopp will leave Liverpool. Well, they lose the chances to win the trophy. True, they gave up too early!!

They also made a mistake in the match against Aston Villa today. In the middle of the match, they are leading with 2 goals but they are too easy conceded goals when the match is almost over. 2 goals made by Jhon Duran in minute 85' and 88' ruins the leading of Liverpool, they end up the match with the same goals. Liverpool failed to win, they only got a draw result. I think it is because Liverpool didn't play aggressively until the end of the match.

Well, Klopp seems not only have a problem with Salah. He also has a problem with other players in Liverpool. It is sad to see the bad end of Klopp in Liverpool. 

[pawel7777]

Tomorrow is the day the Premier League title will pretty much be decided. If Man City wins against Tottenham in London, they'd almost certainly win the league, but if there's a draw or if Tottenham wins, Arsenal would likely be crowned the champions.
Simply, apart from tomorrow's game, both Man City and Arsenal have only relatively easy games at home, against West Ham and Everton respectively, none of whom have any strong motivation to win.

Odds for tomorrow are:
Tottenham: x7.20
Draw: x5.70
Man City: 1.38

Odds for winning the league:
Man City: 1.36
Arsenal: 3.20

[Moreno233]

I really feel pity for Liverpool tonight, not that they lost the match but at least they deserved a win as they played so well and were leading comfortably before, should I say, bad luck struck and spoilt everything for them and leaving them with only a draw. Actually many people did not expect them to win Aston Villa without a huge stress. It was Aston V that scattered Arsenal's dream of winning the league so they are not a walk-over. Indeed we watched a beautiful football tonight.

[nelson4lov]

I really feel pity for Liverpool tonight, not that they lost the match but at least they deserved a win as they played so well and were leading comfortably before, should I say, bad luck struck and spoilt everything for them and leaving them with only a draw. Actually many people did not expect them to win Aston Villa without a huge stress. It was Aston V that scattered Arsenal's dream of winning the league so they are not a walk-over. Indeed we watched a beautiful football tonight.

It's hard to justify how Liverpool went from sitting comfortably with a 1-3 scoreline for majority of the second half only to lose their shit in the closing stages that allowed Villa to score 2 in the final 5 minutes of regular time. I'm forced to think that those 4 changes that Klopp made in the 75th minute that saw Endo, Elliot, Diaz and Gakpo get subbed off had a huge impact for the remainder of the game. There was no Endo to track back on the Villa attacks when they came calling. Liverpool should've done better.

[Alpha Marine]

The same Tottenham that Arsenal beat to 3 goals to 1 or there is another Tottenham in another place? The same Tottenham that had 4 losses in a row and had 1 win against Burnley a relegation team is what you guys think will teach Manchester City a lesson? A team that has not lose match as of recent and want to win the Premier League, if this is not capping then I think you are fan of Tottenham and you are only trying to defend them.

Well, he didn't say Tottenham would win or teach Manchester City a lesson. When Tottenham were in a worst form than they are now they got a 4-4 draw from Manchester City if you can remember. I don't expect Manchester City to lose that game, they won't even draw, in my opinion, it's going to be a straight win for Manchester City, but we've been watching football long enough to know how funny it is. The fact that Tottenham is not a reliable team and always fumble and bottle when needed doesn't mean they can't take points from Man City. It's football. If winning was certain for Man City then they won't have any odd to win at all against Tottenham, or maybe the odd would be 1.02.
Knowing Manchester City and how they are in these type of situation makes you know they don't joke with these type of opportunities, but like I said, it's football.

It's hard to justify how Liverpool went from sitting comfortably with a 1-3 scoreline for majority of the second half only to lose their shit in the closing stages that allowed Villa to score 2 in the final 5 minutes of regular time. I'm forced to think that those 4 changes that Klopp made in the 75th minute that saw Endo, Elliot, Diaz, and Gakpo get subbed off had a huge impact for the remainder of the game. There was no Endo to track back on the Villa attacks when they came calling. Liverpool should've done better.

It's similar to how their season has gone. They were the favorites for the league and Europa at a point and all of a sudden everything nose-dived. Now I believe Klopp when he said he's tired, I think he really needs that rest.
They were still in the title race when it was 10 games to go and they looked like a team that was ready to fight and win every game till the end of the season just as Man City and Arsenal are fighting right now, but the loss against Atalanta and Crystal Palace robbed them of more than just 3 points, I think it also took their fighting spirit.

[SeriouslyGiveaway]

Arsenal could have actually won by a bigger goal difference yesterday. Goal difference in general is really important for the championship indeed. In a situation with same points the final week is going to be really interesting to watch. Currently there is only a difference of three goals between Arsenal and Manchester City in the standings.

Winning all 3 points at Man Utd's home field was a success for Arsenal. Although it was only a narrow score of 1-0, it was enough for Arsenal to continue to maintain hope of winning the championship from Mancity. Surely Arsenal fans will now cheer for Tottenham, hoping they can hold off Mancity in this midweek match. Aston Villa just had a draw against Liverpool, so this will be an opportunity for Tottenham to win 4th place in the final match if they surpass Mancity in this match.

Although the result of the compensation match between Mancity and Tottenham is very important for Arsenal. But the final round of this season will still be very dramatic as the gap between the two teams is still very tight before the final round despite the result of the Mancity vs Tottenham match. In addition, the battle for the final ticket to the Champion League between Aston Villa and Tottenham will only be decided in the final round if Tottenham can win against Mancity in the midweek match.

Liverpool's poor performance means they have been eliminated from the championship race, and this will be the first season in Premier League history that the championship race in the final round does not have the presence of both Liverpool and ManCity. If Mancity wins, they will become the first team in history to win four consecutive years.

[reagansimms]

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Doesn't it feel like Liverpool have started to play more comfortably after losing their chance for the PL title?    It really feels like that for me honestly.

While they were in the title race they were making more mistakes. They lost points in really unbelievable matches and gave up on the league too early. Now we see that Liverpool are beating one of the toughest teams this season. This shouldn't have been the way for Klopp to say goodbye but there is nothing to do.    There was some tension between him and Salah recently too so I wonder if they have worked it out.

It's true, Liverpool don't have any targets in this game, all the trophies have been lost from their target after failing to maintain their best performance some time ago, they are also certain to qualify for the Champions League next season. I put more emphasis on Aston Villa in this match, they were so enthusiastic about getting points at their home ground after trailing 3-1. As a result of their motivation to appear in the Champions League next season, they were able to add two goals which made the match draw again at 3-3. Aston Villa must succeed in securing three points in their final match of the season to ensure a ticket to the Champions League. Crystal Palace is the team they will face in the next match. They can win at Crystal Palace headquarters if they are able to maintain their performance like this.

[Cityhunter34]

I really feel pity for Liverpool tonight, not that they lost the match but at least they deserved a win as they played so well and were leading comfortably before, should I say, bad luck struck and spoilt everything for them and leaving them with only a draw. Actually many people did not expect them to win Aston Villa without a huge stress. It was Aston V that scattered Arsenal's dream of winning the league so they are not a walk-over. Indeed we watched a beautiful football tonight.

Honestly speaking the game yesterday was really an intertaining one I really enjoyed the game yesterday among all England premier league played from Saturday, Sunday it was this Monday match Aston villa against Liverpool is the must toughest match so far, the draw have really helped Aston villa to maintain their top 4 and I 'm sure that they are going to play champions league next season.

[Google+]

I really feel pity for Liverpool tonight, not that they lost the match but at least they deserved a win as they played so well and were leading comfortably before, should I say, bad luck struck and spoilt everything for them and leaving them with only a draw. Actually many people did not expect them to win Aston Villa without a huge stress. It was Aston V that scattered Arsenal's dream of winning the league so they are not a walk-over. Indeed we watched a beautiful football tonight.

It's sad enough to see Liverpool performance this season, emerging as a challenger for the English League title this season but slowly Liverpool retreated from the path of winning the English League and even the European League, the decline in performance that occurred in Liverpool occurred suddenly and maybe even we here do not know what is the main cause of this happening,  Liverpool inconsistent play occurs when the league is almost entering the end of the season so it will indeed be very difficult for them to bounce back after the slump that occurred, currently Liverpool are safe in rank 3 but as a big team and have a base with quite a lot of fans in the world, of course the defeat they got made many fans quite disappointed.

The draw obtained by Liverpool yesterday certainly surprised us all, when they were only one step away from victory their concentration was divided in the final minute of the game, but conceding two goals within 3 minutes made Liverpool have to be willing to get 1 point in the game, Wolves will be the last game that Liverpool have to face this season before the season ends and I think they may also lose points in that game because poor performance and also Liverpool defense at the moment.

[Albarq]

It appears so. We'll also see if Manchester United will make a comeback against Arsenal but the chance for this thing to happen is very lesser for united. Arsenal currently outperforms Manchester United in every way and it's still also in a very good state as well. The club is likely to lose by a narrow margin against Arsenal soon but who knows if manchester united will be lucky enough in the upcoming game. The simplest option is to select Arsenal to win the game or total over caused by united may not able scores a lot in the next game.

There will be a lot of goals scored in the upcoming game between Arsenal and Manchester United. Arsenal may be owning the game again. It's obvious that betting on Arsenal is the best option for the upcoming game. Arsenal will be able to beat Manchester United once more. Things have been going so badly for United since the last game.
It keeps losing three points, and this could continue until the match against Arsenal.

Even though Manchester United lost to continue in their last two matches, Manchester United had to fight hard, even though their game wasn't that good, they still had their best in the match, especially against Arsenal, making them practice more with Casemiro who was guarding the defense line, finally the first goal was scored for Arsenal, but at least Manchester United has made improvements in facing Arsenal from the best team in their pursuit of winning the English Premier League title.

[len01]

The draw obtained by Liverpool yesterday certainly surprised us all, when they were only one step away from victory their concentration was divided in the final minute of the game, but conceding two goals within 3 minutes made Liverpool have to be willing to get 1 point in the game, Wolves will be the last game that Liverpool have to face this season before the season ends and I think they may also lose points in that game because poor performance and also Liverpool defense at the moment.

this is why Liverpool has looked a little weak lately and it's all because if Liverpool scores early it will definitely underestimate the opposing team and become a habit of conceding in the second half.
this case didn't just happen once but several times Liverpool became weak in the second half and the problem was in the defense as you said.
yesterday's match was actually a bit predictable because the odds for the total score looked very big and that means there was bound to be a big score and there would be 6 scores for both teams.

something that Liverpool must improve at the end of the match is just staying focused while the match is still going on and the second half is a very vulnerable time for Liverpool and must really pay attention to it to maintain its reputation.

[uchegod-21]

The draw obtained by Liverpool yesterday certainly surprised us all, when they were only one step away from victory their concentration was divided in the final minute of the game, but conceding two goals within 3 minutes made Liverpool have to be willing to get 1 point in the game, Wolves will be the last game that Liverpool have to face this season before the season ends and I think they may also lose points in that game because poor performance and also Liverpool defense at the moment.

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A good gambler should not at this time gamble that Liverpool will win a match. Apart from the quality of footballers in a particular team and the experience of the coach, we should not underrate one important thing that determines winning and that is motivation. When a team is not motivated, they will actually do nothing inspiring. As we all can see, Liverpool has lost their motivation for the chase of English Premier League title and even across all the titles in this season so the driving force they needed was not there anymore to perform well. So, it will be we stay off them till this season ends.

[QueenVera]

Winning all 3 points at Man Utd's home field was a success for Arsenal. Although it was only a narrow score of 1-0, it was enough for Arsenal to continue to maintain hope of winning the championship from Mancity. Surely Arsenal fans will now cheer for Tottenham, hoping they can hold off Mancity in this midweek match. Aston Villa just had a draw against Liverpool, so this will be an opportunity for Tottenham to win 4th place in the final match if they surpass Mancity in this match.

Although the result of the compensation match between Mancity and Tottenham is very important for Arsenal. But the final round of this season will still be very dramatic as the gap between the two teams is still very tight before the final round despite the result of the Mancity vs Tottenham match. In addition, the battle for the final ticket to the Champion League between Aston Villa and Tottenham will only be decided in the final round if Tottenham can win against Mancity in the midweek match.

Liverpool's poor performance means they have been eliminated from the championship race, and this will be the first season in Premier League history that the championship race in the final round does not have the presence of both Liverpool and ManCity. If Mancity wins, they will become the first team in history to win four consecutive years.

Over the weekend, Arsenal were able to get a 1-0 win over Man United and though the goal wasn’t much as it could probably affect their goal difference margin but you can say the 3 points gotten was very important as it now takes them back to the top of the league. I think now they have been able to mount the pressure on Man City while they go and support their fellow London Club to be able to at least hold Man City to a draw. 

 ⁠Now the race for the title will be going to the last day and this is real fun because I can’t remember the last time I saw something like this, well I think if City gets the win today it puts them in better position. Well you can imagine how the Arsenal fans will be trooping out in their numbers maybe in their red colours or probably the white colour to support their fellow London club. ⁠I can’t wait to see what this match holds because when you even check Tottenham who are the deciding factors here, you begin to imagine their chance of even getting a draw in this game.

 For Me, City will be winning this match with a 2 goal margin and I know that would hurt Arsenal fans but that’s just the sad reality. Liverpool are out of the chase as they haven’t been able to keep up on their form and chase for the league like Arsenal and Man City. As for Arsenal, the fans should get ready for the heartbreak because I don’t think City will be letting this league slip past their fingers.

[tusandii]

It's halftime at the Villa park. Liverpool got lucky in the first 1 minute to take the lead via a Martinez mistake. Despite the equalizer from Tielemans shortly, Liverpool got in front again from a Gakpo goal. Even though Liverpool is barely fighting for anything (can't go up or down at this point) other than to finish Klopp's last away game strongly, I've enjoy the game so far since it's been competitive as Villa needs a win to cement their UCL slot for next season.

And even more surprising, Joe Gomez gave the assist for Liverpool's second goal. I'm still looking forward to the day he'd get the first goal of his club career probably still in a Liverpool's jersey 

Second half soon.

Doesn't it feel like Liverpool have started to play more comfortably after losing their chance for the PL title?    It really feels like that for me honestly.

While they were in the title race they were making more mistakes. They lost points in really unbelievable matches and gave up on the league too early. Now we see that Liverpool are beating one of the toughest teams this season. This shouldn't have been the way for Klopp to say goodbye but there is nothing to do.    There was some tension between him and Salah recently too so I wonder if they have worked it out.

That should be the case, because Liverpool are no longer in the title race, the match he is facing should no longer provide quite as much pressure. Against Aston Villa, he seems to be playing more comfortably and doesn't seem to be under too much pressure even though Liverpool took the lead at the start of the first half. but who would have thought that this would not result in a victory for Liverpool and the match they faced resulted in a draw with a score of 3:3, a result that was quite satisfactory for both teams.

Kloop's hopes of giving Liverpool a major trophy have been dashed, now there is no hope left, there is only 1 match left and that won't change anything, Kloop immediately said goodbye at the end of the season without leaving a great impression, even Liverpool couldn't win one of the prestigious titles this season. Failing in all competitions, it was a shame that the tension between Salah and Kloop had to occur during Kloop's last season coaching Liverpool.

[Oluwa-btc]

Arsenal is doing great, they have gathered a lot of points as well, amazing run so far but the fact is that City is so great that they end up still not doing all that great, which is why I think it is quite obvious that we are going to get this type of results in the end, it is not going to be all that complicated in the end.

This is why I believe that we should consider how Arsenal is getting a second place as a good victory for them, not a bad deal and should be considered as a good result for them. Sure they would want to be the champions, but they should not be sad to miss that championship, they should be happy. City is just an another level team, and they are just getting this much points because they are always good.

They have seen the highest win so far in the Premier League Competition, Yes?  ( 27 Wins? ) That's something to look at when the season comes to an end completely.
Manchester City despite having some levels of declines has still been able to raise up them performance when it mattered most, this is how a good defending champion should be. One last chance before the final game to see if they cvan successfully overtake Arsenal from the top tonight. Can Tottenham Hotspur be of help tonight?

Don't forget they have to win so they could make it to the Champions League Competition next season. They have a game against Sheffield United which I think can be easily won.

Its never over until it's finally over for them. Arsenal should just be hopeful.  But can that decide the outcome of the game tonight? No!

[beerlover]

Doesn't it feel like Liverpool have started to play more comfortably after losing their chance for the PL title?    It really feels like that for me honestly.

While they were in the title race they were making more mistakes. They lost points in really unbelievable matches and gave up on the league too early. Now we see that Liverpool are beating one of the toughest teams this season. This shouldn't have been the way for Klopp to say goodbye but there is nothing to do.    There was some tension between him and Salah recently too so I wonder if they have worked it out.

It's true, Liverpool don't have any targets in this game, all the trophies have been lost from their target after failing to maintain their best performance some time ago, they are also certain to qualify for the Champions League next season. I put more emphasis on Aston Villa in this match, they were so enthusiastic about getting points at their home ground after trailing 3-1. As a result of their motivation to appear in the Champions League next season, they were able to add two goals which made the match draw again at 3-3. Aston Villa must succeed in securing three points in their final match of the season to ensure a ticket to the Champions League. Crystal Palace is the team they will face in the next match. They can win at Crystal Palace headquarters if they are able to maintain their performance like this.

I mean Europa is gone, fa cup is gone, league third is basically guaranteed at this point, they have absolutely nothing to play anymore, they are going to just relax and let the season end at this point, which is going to be fine if you ask me, they just need to make sure they are playing fine.

I think it's clear that we are going to get some trouble if we try to keep on betting on their games because they do not care so it won't be that easy. I get that it may take a while for people to realize this, but they may lose to anyone, or get a draw or they may end up winning too of course but we do not know how much they will care about that so betting on their game doesn't really make sense to me at all, seems like it would be bad.