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June 27, 2024, 01:16:03 PM
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The Manchester United team has only been built for a few seasons by Ten Hag and it is very different from Manchester City, I don't think it can be compared and in the future I still believe that if Ten Hag continues to make improvements and cover up the mistakes that have occurred then it is very likely that the Manchester team will United will be perfect again or match Manchester City's level for the title competition.
But, Ten Hag only have a year to build Manchester United, I don't think he can. If Manchester United didn't qualify for Champions League in the next season, I'm 100% believe they will sack Ten Hag ASAP. And then, the problem can't be resolved since the team always change the team for every one or two years.

The best solution is to sign Pep Guardiola or Ancelotti, because if they failed to bring Manchester United glory, the fans will blame the players instead of the managers, so they can survive and build Manchester United for many seasons.

I don't think Pep will ever coach United and same thing goes for Ancelotti who most likely will retire after Real Madrid or try his luck with a national team. For Pep is simple , United is stuck on old methods and doesn't want to carry a club who doesn't want to invest in modern training facilities and besides this , he is a City fan for real and he will not betray the fans to actually go and coach United.

Regarding Ten Hag , if the club still has trust in him , there must be a reason but if United won't deliver this new season , for sure he will leave the club and another coach will take it's place.

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June 27, 2024, 01:24:25 PM
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There are so many factors that influence. Transfers of players from outside the EPL do not always make the best contribution. This is because of the differences in the characters playing each league. They could not adjust to the fast tempo of the EPL. So I think the player transfers that Ten Hag made don't seem to be effective either. His project failed plus many players were injured.  Man United's suffering is complete.  But 1 trophy seems to be able to make the management change their minds.
Most players from outside the EPL will have difficulty adapting to the game in the EPL which relies on speed and physical strength, some top players have failed to shine in the EPL due to having difficulty adapting to the style of play there. Radamel Falcao, Juan Cuadrado and De Maria are some of the players who failed to shine in the EPL. Manchester United in Ten Hag hands was not very successful even though they managed to win the FA Cup trophy, but management still has hope for him to continue the project for next season. I think this is the last chance given by the Club management, Ten Hag must repay the trust placed in him with achievements if he wants his position to remain safe.


Yea, English football is more of muscular football, so players from outside the league adapting to the pattern isn't that easy, it requires a player that is not selective when it comes to team plan and decision to survive in English football clubs, I have wat have watched some players make decision to leave their clubs, may see it as if they just want to leave because of other things not knowing that they can no longer adapt to the situation on ground, the players you mentioned are not fit for English premiership football, in the aspect of Manchester United not being good under Ten hag as you said although i wouldn't say you are wrong but i will argue you to an extent, No doubt that it wasnt easy for them in the FA cup finals but their performance in that final that lead to their victory wouldn't be forgotten so soon and that is understand the supervisor and mentorship of Ten Hag so he deserve accolades for that, we never can tell what he is going through presently in the team, though anything that happens in a team is to be blame on the manager but kets also undeetand that players can decide to frustrate their coach, in Ten hag case it might also be possible.

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June 27, 2024, 01:29:12 PM
 #4143

The best solution is to sign Pep Guardiola or Ancelotti, because if they failed to bring Manchester United glory, the fans will blame the players instead of the managers, so they can survive and build Manchester United for many seasons.
Whether Manchester United will be able to bring in either of these two people with the money we don't know how much money the Red Devils have at the moment, however it will definitely take a long time to develop players, even if one of the top coaches is brought in by the Red Devils then there is a big possibility  The Old Trafford public will wait the next two years so that the desired game can come true, but if it is far from expectations then of course it will be a waste of money.

It seems unlikely to happen following their (ancellotti and Pep) statements regarding their future at their current clubs (City and Madrid). Pep stated that he was unlikely to stay in the city after his contract expires soon and was keen to coach the national football club. Ancellotti has also emphasized how he is unlikely to leave Real Madrid until the end of his contract. It's impossible for United to recruit them. This sounds like a cheap rumor. 

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June 27, 2024, 02:42:22 PM
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Lol. You don't think so don't mean it won't happen. It's same way y'all said Manchester United cannot win the FA Cup Finals against Manchester City. ( Go check for Michael Owen's comments about this ) Y'all watch football blindly and judge with lots of bias lol. We will definitely see what happens next season.
As much as Manchester United players are keen to grow and win more trophies, then I don't have to focus on the bloody noise and rants online.

How can you say that? T's your opinion by the way. You're entitled to your opinion. You're just blabbing and you're repeatedly saying what you've said. Obviously spamming lol.

Honestly, you don't know ball. Pep Guardiola can never be Manchester United manager wvennifnyou give him all of the best deals in the world. Smh. The same goes to Carlo Ancellotti, he will never be a Manchester United manager in the nearest future. Most likely these names mentioned would be handling a country side in the next couple of seasons ahead.
I don't see anything wrong for people who say Manchester United will not win the FA Cup, because anyone can see how poor they're and how good are Manchester City in Premier League.

FA Cup is just a short competition, luck may happen, that's why Manchester United won the FA Cup.

Even it's impossible for Pep or Ancelotti will move to Manchester United, my point is correct that fans will not forcing to sack Pep or Ancelotti if they were become Manchester United's manager.

Well, Did you see how it finally played out? Erik Ten Hag outclassed Pep Guardiola, yes? I knew they was bad but I envisaged that last game to be the way it was one month ago. T's just that most of you join the crowd to judge and predict wrongly. Manchester United will definitely improve next season.

How can you say Manchester United won with luck? Did you watch back of the TV or what? Go on watch how Manchester United made it difficult for Manchester Cities midfielder's to operate ( Kovacic, Rodri and also Bruno Fernandez ) and also on the road to that finals Manchester United was not at them best but yet, they did defeat Liverpool, yes? How dare you call that luck?  I'm not even sure you watched the game because if you did you won't be saying this.

It's the same way the fans of Manchester United wanted the stay of Erik Ten Hag, he won their hearts with that last speech given during on of the last few games of the season. He promised he and the squad was going to deliver the trophy and they did.

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June 27, 2024, 04:58:45 PM
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The best solution is to sign Pep Guardiola or Ancelotti, because if they failed to bring Manchester United glory, the fans will blame the players instead of the managers, so they can survive and build Manchester United for many seasons.
Whether Manchester United will be able to bring in either of these two people with the money we don't know how much money the Red Devils have at the moment, however it will definitely take a long time to develop players, even if one of the top coaches is brought in by the Red Devils then there is a big possibility  The Old Trafford public will wait the next two years so that the desired game can come true, but if it is far from expectations then of course it will be a waste of money.

It seems unlikely to happen following their (ancellotti and Pep) statements regarding their future at their current clubs (City and Madrid). Pep stated that he was unlikely to stay in the city after his contract expires soon and was keen to coach the national football club. Ancellotti has also emphasized how he is unlikely to leave Real Madrid until the end of his contract. It's impossible for United to recruit them. This sounds like a cheap rumor.

This kind of problem is not about funds because the problem is, whether Pep or Ancelotti can accept Manchester United's offer? After all, I'm sure Manchester United have the money to recruit one of these coaches, but I'm sure both coaches will refuse to offer from Manchester United. After all, the previous rumors were also about Zidane but in fact Manchester United did not succeed in getting him and even worse, Tuchel also rejected Manchester United's offer. So the point is,  about being able to accept the offer submitted by Manchester United or not because if it's about finance, I'm sure Manchester United still has good finances and is not bad like Barcelona.

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June 27, 2024, 05:28:22 PM
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This kind of problem is not about funds because the problem is, whether Pep or Ancelotti can accept Manchester United's offer? After all, I'm sure Manchester United have the money to recruit one of these coaches, but I'm sure both coaches will refuse to offer from Manchester United. After all, the previous rumors were also about Zidane but in fact Manchester United did not succeed in getting him and even worse, Tuchel also rejected Manchester United's offer. So the point is,  about being able to accept the offer submitted by Manchester United or not because if it's about finance, I'm sure Manchester United still has good finances and is not bad like Barcelona.
Manchester United has reportedly offered a new contract to ten hag, so it seems difficult for us to see a new coach change in the next few seasons happening at Old Trafford, currently Guardiola has 1 year left on his contract with Manchester City and even if he leaves Manchester City of course he will not betray Manchester City just because he joins Manchester United,  In addition, as you said, if Guardiola still wants to coach a club, of course he does not coach a different club in the same league, like when he left Barcelona and Munich, I personally believe that if Guardiola will coach another club then he will go to Serie A or Ligue 1 later.

While the possibility of Ancelotti coaching Manchester United is certainly impossible, because previously Ancelotti has said that if he is currently focused on Madrid and wants to end his contract at Madrid before he retires as a coach, Ancelotti has said that there is nothing more which he is looking for as a coach because he has achieved all the achievements that exist today.
To be honest, I see it may be difficult for Manchester United to get a top coach at the moment, so indeed they still retain ten hag as coach even though so far there has been no impressive achievement that he can give for Manchester United.

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June 27, 2024, 07:59:27 PM
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I have big doubts on a probability like Guardiola to work with Manchester United after leaving his current job.  Sad  It is Manchester City's direct rival we are talking about above all else.

Besides Guardiola would need a lot of time to turn Manchester United into just the kind of a team he would like. Who knows how much money they would need to spend. Even now it is said they are planning a name change on their stadium to attract sponsors. Obviously their finances aren't in good shape then. Aside from that, I would like to see them not needing Guardiola at all. I just wish to see Erik ten Hag making a big improvement this season.  Smiley

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June 27, 2024, 08:11:45 PM
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Whether Manchester United will be able to bring in either of these two people with the money we don't know how much money the Red Devils have at the moment, however it will definitely take a long time to develop players, even if one of the top coaches is brought in by the Red Devils then there is a big possibility  The Old Trafford public will wait the next two years so that the desired game can come true, but if it is far from expectations then of course it will be a waste of money.
It seems unlikely to happen following their (ancellotti and Pep) statements regarding their future at their current clubs (City and Madrid). Pep stated that he was unlikely to stay in the city after his contract expires soon and was keen to coach the national football club. Ancellotti has also emphasized how he is unlikely to leave Real Madrid until the end of his contract. It's impossible for United to recruit them. This sounds like a cheap rumor.

You can say it's impossible to happen today, but you never know what will happen in the future. I probably believe that Pep Guardiola would not accept a proposal from Manchester United even if it were in the future, it would obviously hurt everyone at Manchester City. Manchester United will likely bring in another top coach instead of Pep Guardiola or Ancelotti, so these rumors are still too far from reality even though they are possible.

Pep Guardiola and Ancelotti are both interested in coaching the national team. Ancelotti was rumored to be coaching Brazil, but I don't know what Pep Guardiola wants. Pep could coach England for the next few competitions if he really wants to usher in a new era for England, but I tend to take the stance that Pep will coach Spain.

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June 27, 2024, 08:12:35 PM
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I have big doubts on a probability like Guardiola to work with Manchester United after leaving his current job.  Sad  It is Manchester City's direct rival we are talking about above all else.

<snip> I just wish to see Erik ten Hag making a big improvement this season.  Smiley
We don't think much about the Guardiola issue you mentioned.
Most recently, Manchester United will give Erik ten Hag the opportunity and Erik ten Hag's contract extension proposal will be completed in the near future by adding several staff to help Erik ten Hag's work next season.

Regarding the possibility of Guardiola going to Manchester United because United is Man City's main rival or so on, that is not important to us.

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June 27, 2024, 08:15:41 PM
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I have big doubts on a probability like Guardiola to work with Manchester United after leaving his current job.  Sad  It is Manchester City's direct rival we are talking about above all else.

Besides Guardiola would need a lot of time to turn Manchester United into just the kind of a team he would like. Who knows how much money they would need to spend. Even now it is said they are planning a name change on their stadium to attract sponsors. Obviously their finances aren't in good shape then. Aside from that, I would like to see them not needing Guardiola at all. I just wish to see Erik ten Hag making a big improvement this season.  Smiley

Asking Pep Guardiola to manage Manchester United is like asking him to go manage Real Madrid, it'll never happen, I don't even know why someone will bring up such a thought but it's okay to think and spit your opinion. But, like I said, it'll never happen honestly.

Don't even think about it, Manchester United already has a good coach amd they'll definitely see success with Erik Ten Hag within the next few seasons, I don't blame those who slander him, they don't bsee his capabilities. If he wanted to be a Manchester United manager, he would have rejected then offers from Manchester City in thr very beginning.

I don't know what plans they have but since they say it's change, change doesn't come easily, if you're not part of that change, it'll be difficult for you accept, so it's what it is right now. They should do whatever they want but most importantly ,get Manchester United back to the top levels competing hard again.

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June 27, 2024, 08:22:50 PM
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I have big doubts on a probability like Guardiola to work with Manchester United after leaving his current job.  Sad  It is Manchester City's direct rival we are talking about above all else.

<snip> I just wish to see Erik ten Hag making a big improvement this season.  Smiley
We don't think much about the Guardiola issue you mentioned.
Most recently, Manchester United will give Erik ten Hag the opportunity and Erik ten Hag's contract extension proposal will be completed in the near future by adding several staff to help Erik ten Hag's work next season.
Manchester United still have hopes for Erik Ten Hag rather than other coaches with the proposal that will be a little more completed to add Manchester United's confidence let alone add some staff, is this also Erik Ten Hag's wish?
I just want to know what will be done when the season starts soon, whether this will make a good enough change or the team remains stagnant like the previous season, more great with two FA trophies, Erik Ten Hag can survive but it's a good thing they can win trophies rather than nothing.


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June 28, 2024, 04:07:10 AM
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It seems unlikely to happen following their (ancellotti and Pep) statements regarding their future at their current clubs (City and Madrid). Pep stated that he was unlikely to stay in the city after his contract expires soon and was keen to coach the national football club. Ancellotti has also emphasized how he is unlikely to leave Real Madrid until the end of his contract. It's impossible for United to recruit them. This sounds like a cheap rumor.
Pep Guardiola and Carlo Ancelotti are currently comfortable at the clubs they manage and I don't think they will leave the club anytime soon so Manchester United has to wait for these coaches to leave their respective clubs so they can bring in one of these great coaches but I'm not sure These great coaches are willing to accept offers to coach clubs like Manchester United un less they want a more difficult challenge. Manchester Uniteden is still an elite club in the Premier League, but their glory has begun to fade and coaches must build performance from the bottom if they want to improve the club's performance. But sorry, I don't agree with that statement your said it was impossible for Manchester United. Anything can happen if a coach wants to try to coach a club that is full of challenges. Manchester United is a big club. They need a coach with good experience to restore their success. Moreover, I have never heard of Man U experiencing difficulties. finances so if the club is able to get one of these coaches then the management will let the coach change the players according to their wishes.

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June 28, 2024, 04:33:43 AM
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Manchester United still have hopes for Erik Ten Hag rather than other coaches with the proposal that will be a little more completed to add Manchester United's confidence let alone add some staff, is this also Erik Ten Hag's wish?
I just want to know what will be done when the season starts soon, whether this will make a good enough change or the team remains stagnant like the previous season, more great with two FA trophies, Erik Ten Hag can survive but it's a good thing they can win trophies rather than nothing.
There are several reasons why Manchester United is still retaining Ten Hag rather than signing another coach who has more experience in leading the team to win trophies. Successfully presenting the FA Cup Trophy is a consideration for Manchester United management. This success has led to Manchester United appearing in the Europa League this season.
Another reason may be that Manchester United does not want to spend money to pay the remainder of Ten Hag contract. Ten Hag must be aware of his current condition, after failing to bring Manchester United to a better position, there are many oblique issues coming his way, he must be able to improve Manchester United performance to keep his position safe.

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June 28, 2024, 04:59:40 AM
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Manchester United still have hopes for Erik Ten Hag rather than other coaches with the proposal that will be a little more completed to add Manchester United's confidence let alone add some staff, is this also Erik Ten Hag's wish?
I just want to know what will be done when the season starts soon, whether this will make a good enough change or the team remains stagnant like the previous season, more great with two FA trophies, Erik Ten Hag can survive but it's a good thing they can win trophies rather than nothing.
There are several reasons why Manchester United is still retaining Ten Hag rather than signing another coach who has more experience in leading the team to win trophies. Successfully presenting the FA Cup Trophy is a consideration for Manchester United management. This success has led to Manchester United appearing in the Europa League this season.
Another reason may be that Manchester United does not want to spend money to pay the remainder of Ten Hag contract. Ten Hag must be aware of his current condition, after failing to bring Manchester United to a better position, there are many oblique issues coming his way, he must be able to improve Manchester United performance to keep his position safe.

It seems to me that Manchester United management are not interested in wasting money by paying Ten Hag the remainder of the contract. This is why the Manchester United management is keen to terminate the contract with Ten Hag.

Manchester United won the FA Cup title. However, Manchester United's performance in the Premier League last season was very poor and erratic. Ten Hag had enough time to strengthen this group. Manchester United management provided large funds to strengthen their squad. But Ten Hag has completely failed to strengthen this team. So I don't see any reason to keep Ten Hag as coach. United management is not interested in paying the remainder of the contract to Ten Hag. And perhaps United management is yet to find an experienced coach. Both of these could be the reasons why Manchester United did not change their coach.

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June 28, 2024, 06:06:00 AM
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The Manchester United team has only been built for a few seasons by Ten Hag and it is very different from Manchester City, I don't think it can be compared and in the future I still believe that if Ten Hag continues to make improvements and cover up the mistakes that have occurred then it is very likely that the Manchester team will United will be perfect again or match Manchester City's level for the title competition.
But, Ten Hag only have a year to build Manchester United, I don't think he can. If Manchester United didn't qualify for Champions League in the next season, I'm 100% believe they will sack Ten Hag ASAP. And then, the problem can't be resolved since the team always change the team for every one or two years.

The best solution is to sign Pep Guardiola or Ancelotti, because if they failed to bring Manchester United glory, the fans will blame the players instead of the managers, so they can survive and build Manchester United for many seasons.
Giving more time to Ten Hag after what he showed this season and the previous season is clearly a condition that is a dilemma in the end because with what he is showing now, with all the conditions that are not going smoothly, giving him 1 year is the song clear as the real dilemma.

Making a proposal for Ancelotti or Pep too is a ridiculous proposal in the end because in any case it will never happen for Manchester United because the conditions for this proposal are more difficult than trying to sack Ten Hag.

As for the problem of criticizing the coach, in the end it is a common and normal thing because in the end when a club's performance is not going well then the coach must be the one who must be responsible and it has become a consequence for a coach in this case, therefore the coach is clear must be required to give the best and must be prepared for the pressure and all the criticism that is received.

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June 28, 2024, 07:23:41 AM
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Ancelotti has given his best for Real Madrid and he has built this team with a fairly solid framework for the long term so I also think that he will not be likely to be fired from Real Madrid in the near future.

Like before at Barcelo, Guardiola would leave when he had everything to get a new challenge at another team, so it is possible that that will also happen now and there are even rumors circulating about it now.
We still don't know whether to go to Manchester United, but I'm sure that soon Guardiola will leave Manchester City.

If Ten Hag is successful, this will not be his last season, Man United management will definitely keep him if he is successful, but if not, it is not impossible that he will leave midway.
Let's not say he would "never" sign with them, it would be silly to say something like that because more shocking things has happened in football world. I think he would sign if he thinks that it's a worthy task, like if he could turn United into a winning team then he would be considered one of the (if not the) best to ever do it, which could be something he could be interested in.

However, he could of course reject for obvious reasons as well, we just don't know. Plus it is a team with a great potential, doesn't mean they are great, just means that their future potential is great, and Ancelotti is at Real Madrid for a while longer, by the time his contract ends, he may go to United that is a lot better than right now, who knows?

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June 28, 2024, 07:38:03 AM
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I have big doubts on a probability like Guardiola to work with Manchester United after leaving his current job.  Sad  It is Manchester City's direct rival we are talking about above all else.

Besides Guardiola would need a lot of time to turn Manchester United into just the kind of a team he would like. Who knows how much money they would need to spend. Even now it is said they are planning a name change on their stadium to attract sponsors. Obviously their finances aren't in good shape then. Aside from that, I would like to see them not needing Guardiola at all. I just wish to see Erik ten Hag making a big improvement this season.  Smiley

I don't think Pep Guardiola would want to coach the Manchester United team after having an amazing working experience with the citizens and her wonderful players and the moments they spent together winning lots of trophies nah that would be a big mistake for him to make cause he's already a legendary in the history of Manchester City.

If Pep Guardiola should consider taking the United job to later in future after leaving Manchester City then I think he's not going to need just time to reform the team he will be needing a lot of money to recruit new players and if the club is able to find him a lot of money to sign players, with what he did in Manchester City he can as well do well with the United team. Changing the name of the stadium is not necessarily needed to attract sponsors United is a big name already and of the team gets back to good form more sponsors will surely come not minding the coach nor the name of the stadium but I hope to see the team getting better next season under the management of Erik Ten hag.

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June 28, 2024, 08:35:40 AM
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Often we hear the reason from ten hag who often blames his squad for not being able to win, but quite proud of his ability if Manchester United wins, I think player injuries are indeed a bad factor that makes Manchester United weak this season, but shouldn't ten hag evaluate all his training methods so far that make players vulnerable to injury?
In addition to player injuries, ten hag ineffective strategy in the match is one of the biggest reasons for Manchester United failure to win, keeping ten hag will certainly probably be the biggest gamble made by Manchester United at the moment.
Injuries have been the biggest reason why Manchester United have played poorly this season. Yes, of course Ten Hag must be responsible for United's poor performance because he is the head coach. However, I think the club management has certain considerations that will make them keep Ten Hag next season. Some of this is due to injuries and success in winning the FA match. As far as I remember, Ten Hag once said that Ten Hag played with the full squad in the final and he said that was how Manchester United should be. Whether Ten Hag is worth keeping or not, we'll see how United performs next season.
Injuries are unpredictable and several key players can be injured in a season. 

If you look at Real Madrid, their starting XI was plagued with injuries last season but they didn't stop because of injuries, they won the Champions League and La Liga titles with their bench players. If you weaken the bench eleven by only strengthening the ones you keep in the starting XI then you will be in danger by the middle or end of the season. Manchester United planned only regular eleven players but when the regular eleven players got injured, the bench players did not support Manchester United well. 

Of course the manager is responsible for this because why didn't the manager think about this beforehand. What kind of manager is he if he doesn't care that much? What will happen in an entire season should be considered first and then planned for the entire season. Those who plan in this way are basically competent managers.

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June 28, 2024, 10:05:01 AM
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Arsenal has been looking for a striker who can be of a great use for them next season. Recently their target is said to be Osimhen.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-transfer-osimhen-garcia-sambilokonga-33121402

It would be a wonderful transfer honestly.  Smiley  Osimhen is one of the most talented strikers available in today's football. We have all seen what he was capable of under a solid management of Spalletti. I don't have any doubt about him with Arteta either. Because Arteta is a manager who handles young talents like him quite well. We have witnessed that so far by their being very competitive for a Premier League title for two years.  Smiley

He would cost Arsenal a lot of money though but sacrifices need to be made for greater success.

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June 28, 2024, 10:33:35 AM
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Arsenal has been looking for a striker who can be of a great use for them next season. Recently their target is said to be Osimhen.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-transfer-osimhen-garcia-sambilokonga-33121402

It would be a wonderful transfer honestly.  Smiley  Osimhen is one of the most talented strikers available in today's football. We have all seen what he was capable of under a solid management of Spalletti. I don't have any doubt about him with Arteta either. Because Arteta is a manager who handles young talents like him quite well. We have witnessed that so far by their being very competitive for a Premier League title for two years.  Smiley

He would cost Arsenal a lot of money though but sacrifices need to be made for greater success.
Individually Osimhen is quite good, but last season Osimhen's performance declined slightly due to the injury he suffered.

This is a good target for Arsenal, but it is not easy for Arsenal to get it because Napoli is trying to keep Osimhen and there are also several other teams who are ready to make an offer.
I am a little pessimistic about Arsenal being able to get him because Arsenal is not a team that is ready to spend big money on a player.

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