⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽

[boltz]

Al-Ittihad has been interested in signing Kevin De Bruyne recently.



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What do you think about Manchester City in case he leaves this summer?    Would you expect them to have bigger problems on creativity? Honestly they have such an amazing squad that I don't feel like they will lose a lot of power. De Bruyne's absence would be felt for sure but I think Guardiola would find a way to balance the team. He is a smart guy. They have lots of money to spend on another great player also to fill De Bruyne's place at the same time.

I think he did his job in Europe right ? He won everything that he could have won and he can actually accept that transfer and get those big money for this family. I can also see him staying but if he has a bad year , his career will go downhill quickly because no top team would want to transfer him and he will most likely end up in Serie A or MLS.

For me , KDB is one of the greatest midfielders in football history no matter what he chose to do next.

[Litzki1990]

Rumors of his leaving the club, many say that his next choice may be Manchester United, but he will probably take responsibility for another league rather than the English Premier League.

Pep Guardiola's contract at Man City will end next season in 2025 and it is reported that the coach will not extend his contract again because Pep Guardiola has been Manchester City coach for quite a long time and has made many achievements so it is possible that he wants a new challenge by coaching a club outside the Premier League.
I don't recommend Pep to coach a club which is currently in chaos, I mean Man City's city rival, namely Manchester United, because if Pep goes to Man United it would be like betraying Man City because then Pep and Man City will look like enemies when competing in the title race.

Source Pep Guardiola_Man City

I suggest Pep return to his native Spain and become coach of one of the big clubs there, namely Barcelona. It will be very interesting to see the competition between Carlo Anceloti and Pep Guardiola in the fight for the La Liga title but if he becomes Barca coach he will not easily buy the players he needs because Barcelona is not as rich as Man City but if he can build performance with the existing players he is a hero which Barca has been looking for.

When Pep Guardiola won the Champions League trophy last season, he said in a press conference that if he didn't win the Champions League trophy that season, his entire coaching career would be in vain. How serious a team is and how seriously a manager takes his responsibilities can tell. That season he tried and his players gave him the Champions League title. Not only did they secure the Champions League title that season but also the title in every tournament they participated in. I have also heard news like you said that this manager will stay at Manchester City until next season and even if the club wants to keep him, he will not play for Manchester City. Maybe next he will target a team that has no significant achievements so far.

[Palakka]

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I think he did his job in Europe right ? He won everything that he could have won and he can actually accept that transfer and get those big money for this family. I can also see him staying but if he has a bad year , his career will go downhill quickly because no top team would want to transfer him and he will most likely end up in Serie A or MLS.

For me , KDB is one of the greatest midfielders in football history no matter what he chose to do next.

Previously, it was rumored that Kevin De Bruyne would leave Manchester City even though he still has a contract until 2025, although in the last few seasons KDB has still been a mainstay in Manchester City midfield, but Guardiola is currently starting to look for another player who is worthy enough to replace KDB in the future Manchester City squad, currently it is reported that Manchester City has tried to approach Florian Wirtz from Leverkusen and Mohammed Kudus from Westham to be plotted and anticipate the possibility of losing De Bruyne later, actually KDB still wants to play in a competitive league like the English League , but his age is certainly a consideration for Manchester City to sell him now and get some money rather than KDB leaving for free after his contract ends.

Al Ittihad and several Saudi Arabian clubs are currently competing fiercely to get KDB's signature, so this will trigger fantastic offers coming to Manchester City and also KDB, realistically of course KDB and Manchester City will only accept big offers coming to them at this time, even though KDB is quite old, Manchester City is very aware that KDB still has a very high selling value right now.
KDB has previously said that he might consider playing in the srab League because at least by playing for two years in the Arab League he will making his finances will be sufficient for him to retire in the future.

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[el kaka22]

I mean wanting to leave makes sense for Pep, but I do not think that there is any team out there which would make him want to leave City for now. Maybe next season there could be one, and we all know that he will be at City at least for this season as well, which is fine.

But at the same time, I feel like we are talking about a scenario where it is going to be hard and tough for him if he leaves for a bad team. So he needs to figure out where he wants to go to, he was in la liga, he was in bundesliga, and he was in premier league, maybe it's time for him to go to ligue one to serie a? Those are the ones that he hasn't won anything with just yet. If he goes to PSG or some team like Juventus and bring UCL to them, it would be super awesome.

[Smack That Ace]

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What do you think about Manchester City in case he leaves this summer?    Would you expect them to have bigger problems on creativity? Honestly they have such an amazing squad that I don't feel like they will lose a lot of power. De Bruyne's absence would be felt for sure but I think Guardiola would find a way to balance the team. He is a smart guy. They have lots of money to spend on another great player also to fill De Bruyne's place at the same time.

Sooner or later he is going to leave. He is already 33 years old. I don't know how much longer Guardiola would like to see him in his team. Because after a point his performance will probably start going the opposite way.

Other than that of course he is an amazing player. His creativity is surely making a big difference for the team.    But there are always good players in the transfer market. It shouldn't be impossible for them to fill his gap. Besides Manchester City are a team not relying on a specific player which is the most important thing. This would be more helpful for them to deal with his absence if he leaves in this transfer window.  

I don’t know if this is charitable enough for everyone but if you look at the early season of Manchester City, you can see what happened with them after Kevin De Bruyne got injured. And as much as I have seen Pep, I know he is going to solve this problem. He is not someone who wants to rely on one player for the season.

KDB is already 33, and he also knows that he is unable to perform at the top level all the time. He is a rational being and a proper family man too. As he said earlier in an interview, he will do what he thinks is best for himself and his family. If Man City is able to form a decent deal with a Saudi club, it will be beneficial for the club financially. But I think KDB will play the whole of next season and will decide his future next summer. I think he wants to win at least one more UCL.

Regards

Duke

[Oluwa-btc]

I mean wanting to leave makes sense for Pep, but I do not think that there is any team out there which would make him want to leave City for now. Maybe next season there could be one, and we all know that he will be at City at least for this season as well, which is fine.

But at the same time, I feel like we are talking about a scenario where it is going to be hard and tough for him if he leaves for a bad team. So he needs to figure out where he wants to go to, he was in la liga, he was in bundesliga, and he was in premier league, maybe it's time for him to go to ligue one to serie a? Those are the ones that he hasn't won anything with just yet. If he goes to PSG or some team like Juventus and bring UCL to them, it would be super awesome.

I'm forced to agree with you. Some clubs would be willing to see him joining their club though. Right now, if I'm to make a suggestion for him, I would ask him not to manage a club side no more. He should go manage a country side like Brazilian national team aikce Spain already has a good coach who plays same style as he does.

These clubs mentioned are great, Juventus just brought in Thiago Motta so him swinging that way would be difficult honestly. Paris Saint Germany?  That I can't tell, let's see how Luis Enrique goes on with them first this season. I expected so much from last season but his players failed him.

He has made a good legacy in all of La Liga Competition, Bundesliga League Competition and then the Premier League Competition. I'd suggest the Italian Seria A Competition. But the perfect club for him to go would be a club that either Ac Milan and Atalanta.

[X-ray]

Al-Ittihad has been interested in signing Kevin De Bruyne recently.



https://www.transfermarkt.com/kevin-de-bruyne/geruechte/spieler/88755

That's good, and de bruyne said that he's also open for saudi move. De Bruyne could go there. But, only if Ittihad sends him a good offer and he is now open to any possibilities.

What do you think about Manchester City in case he leaves this summer?    

I think it's obvious. Losing one of the best talents will hurt Manchester City. It will also impact their domination in the Premier League. City can recruit a good AM to replace him, like Olmo from Leipzig. But, I think there's no guarantee Olmo will bring City to the top like de Bruyne did.

Would you expect them to have bigger problems on creativity?

I would expect lack of creativity to happen with city. Lack of great attacking midfielder who can be as creative as him. Manchester city may be able to sign a new AM, but i think it's hard to find someone who can play as good as him.

Honestly they have such an amazing squad that I don't feel like they will lose a lot of power. De Bruyne's absence would be felt for sure but I think Guardiola would find a way to balance the team. He is a smart guy. They have lots of money to spend on another great player also to fill De Bruyne's place at the same time.

I must emphasize that De bruyne has a very big impact to the manchester city. Also, he is having most contribution since manchester city was nothing in the EPL. Money can't guarantee city to get an attacking midfielder with the same quality as de bruyne.

[klidex]

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When Pep Guardiola won the Champions League trophy last season, he said in a press conference that if he didn't win the Champions League trophy that season, his entire coaching career would be in vain. How serious a team is and how seriously a manager takes his responsibilities can tell. That season he tried and his players gave him the Champions League title. Not only did they secure the Champions League title that season but also the title in every tournament they participated in. I have also heard news like you said that this manager will stay at Manchester City until next season and even if the club wants to keep him, he will not play for Manchester City. Maybe next he will target a team that has no significant achievements so far.

Every coach certainly wants brilliant achievements so that his coaching career is not in vain and every great coach shows his ability to build the club under his care. Pep Guardiola really proved it to everyone with what he said the previous season he was able to give Man City the Treble title but this season Pep was only able to give 1 Premier League trophy but I have to admit that the competition last season was very tight, plus many City players were suffered an injury that hampered the club's overall performance.
Regarding the journey that Pep will take when his contract expires, we cannot confirm it yet, but what is clear is that I really hope that Pep will leave and look for a new challenge by coaching a club that is having difficulty winning the UCL title.

[tusandii]

I must emphasize that De bruyne has a very big impact to the manchester city. Also, he is having most contribution since manchester city was nothing in the EPL. Money can't guarantee city to get an attacking midfielder with the same quality as de bruyne.

Club must be ready if one day a key player has to leave the club and Manchester City is ready to accept De Bruyne's departure without having to retain players who already have plans to leave the club and on the other hand player regeneration must always be carried out to maintain the club's performance.
Yes, I know that Man City will not be able to get new players with the same quality of talent as De Bruyne, but Man City could get young players with more reliable talent than De Bruyne.
Money is always no guarantee, but with a large amount of money, a club can bring in professional players to replace the positions of players who are leaving.

When one day De Bruyne really has to leave Man City, as club fans we have to believe that it is a wise decision because management will definitely look for a replacement before he leaves.
The only worry is that Haaland can always perform well when working with De Bruyne and if he leaves, Haaland will definitely feel the bad impact of the key player's departure.

[Velvet78]

But what if Rodri and Haaland leave Manchester City? The club will perform very poorly next season.

If both of them also leaves Manchester City would definitely have serious issues.    Rodri is a player who is rare of his kind. His skillsets and strength are making huge difference for his team.

Haaland is a big goal source at the same time. He just needs to improve his performance in big games and that's all. He is already a really deadly goalscorer. The team is like complete with him.

Look at his stats in the 23/24 season, it's insanely good. 



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I think he did his job in Europe right ? He won everything that he could have won and he can actually accept that transfer and get those big money for this family. I can also see him staying but if he has a bad year , his career will go downhill quickly because no top team would want to transfer him and he will most likely end up in Serie A or MLS.

For me , KDB is one of the greatest midfielders in football history no matter what he chose to do next.

De Bruyne has absolutely done everything he could in Europe so far. It is hard to describe how big contribution he has made. He has achieved a Champions League title with Manchester City as well.

I think all he has done is enough for him to just look for some changes as of his turning 33 years old at the same time. He can make lots of money by accepting a potential deal from Saudi Arabia for example.

[Palakka]

I mean wanting to leave makes sense for Pep, but I do not think that there is any team out there which would make him want to leave City for now. Maybe next season there could be one, and we all know that he will be at City at least for this season as well, which is fine.

Pep Guardiola is no different from Ancelotti who has won many titles over the years and this makes them the great coaches that exist today, but even so we cannot deny that Guardiola achieved success with strong financial support from the teams he coached so far, previously he has achieved glory with Barcelona and Munich, as well as with Manchester City now, which he has managed to bring to win the Champions League trophy, EPL and other domestic trophies, so I think he has nothing left to prove in the English Premier League. at this time and the possibility for him to leave is of course very wide open if he wants to look for a new adventure at another club and another league at this time.

But at the same time, I feel like we are talking about a scenario where it is going to be hard and tough for him if he leaves for a bad team. So he needs to figure out where he wants to go to, he was in la liga, he was in bundesliga, and he was in premier league, maybe it's time for him to go to ligue one to serie a? Those are the ones that he hasn't won anything with just yet. If he goes to PSG or some team like Juventus and bring UCL to them, it would be super awesome.

During his career, Guardiola has coached large and financially strong teams, so that when he is at a club that has poor finances, course that is will only risk tarnishing his career and the achievements he has achieved so far,  it is very likely that Guardiola will try to create new record by coaching big teams in two other leagues as you said now, in Serie A there are Juventus, Milan and Intermilan so maybe one of them will be the next club he trains, while in Ligue 1, maybe only PSG will be his goal later, before finally he might try to coach the national team before he retires.

[uchegod-21]

🚨 𝐁𝐑𝐄𝐀𝐊𝐈𝐍𝐆: Jadon Sancho’s 𝐛𝐚𝐜𝐤 in training with Man United after meeting ten Hag! 🔴👀

Jadon Sancho held positive face to face meeting with Erik ten Hag this week as they’ve clarified the situation.

Both ten Hag and Sancho agreed to draw a line on their disagreement after last September case and move on.

Jadon, available for pre-season games and it could be big change for Manchester United plan on his future…

Sancho, back in training already today under ten Hag.

I stumbled on this in one of the Fabrizio's handles and I honestly was shocked to read this. I wasn't expecting players like
Sancho;
Greenwood;
To return to Manchester United under Erik Ten Hang. Especially Sancho. Why do Manchester United decide to bring him back. Check it well, it might not actually be that Erik Ten Hang misunderstanding with Sancho was the issue. It could be that Sancho is finding it difficult playing in English Premier league despite that he's from England. The energy and speed he prospers in Bundesliga will make you think my way. There's no doubt that Sancho is a star on his day, let's see what the new season has.

[sana54210]

While I do agree that KDB isn't against moving to Ittihad, I just don't think that it would be this season. He has a few more years at City if you ask me, he is only 33 years old, and could play until 35 there before he makes the move. Or, they may offer something insane for him, and both the club and the player may accept it, I do not know. I think that would be the most important part, how much is the offer?

Let's assume that they somehow convinced City, how much would they be willing to pay for KDB? He is still on top of his game, and they are not getting some old has been this time, it would be some great player who is awesome. They would need to offer something more than 50+ million a year at least, which I do not think would be smart.

[ILuckyGuyI]

🚨 𝐁𝐑𝐄𝐀𝐊𝐈𝐍𝐆: Jadon Sancho’s 𝐛𝐚𝐜𝐤 in training with Man United after meeting ten Hag! 🔴👀

Jadon Sancho held positive face to face meeting with Erik ten Hag this week as they’ve clarified the situation.

Both ten Hag and Sancho agreed to draw a line on their disagreement after last September case and move on.

Jadon, available for pre-season games and it could be big change for Manchester United plan on his future…

Sancho, back in training already today under ten Hag.

I stumbled on this in one of the Fabrizio's handles and I honestly was shocked to read this. I wasn't expecting players like
Sancho;
Greenwood;
To return to Manchester United under Erik Ten Hang. Especially Sancho. Why do Manchester United decide to bring him back. Check it well, it might not actually be that Erik Ten Hang misunderstanding with Sancho was the issue. It could be that Sancho is finding it difficult playing in English Premier league despite that he's from England. The energy and speed he prospers in Bundesliga will make you think my way. There's no doubt that Sancho is a star on his day, let's see what the new season has.

I was also surprised when I first read that tweet. Because it wasn't looking like Erik ten Hag and Sancho would find a middle course. Sancho was really obstinate about not apologizing and Erik ten Hag's decision on him was final because of that.

But it is nice to hear that there is no problem left between these two. However the question is, will Sancho start playing much better than before?    I still have doubts about that.

The reason why I think like that is he wasn't performing amazingly before this incident either. He was far from his performance at Dortmund. But I hope he proves me wrong and starts being beneficial for his team as of now.

[Rockstarguy]

Pep Guardiola is not like all other managers who stay in the team when the situation is good but he is different. This manager accepts the challenge for a new team that is not doing very well in the league title or the champion league, the sole aim of this manager is to take charge of the team and make that team champion. With all the achievements Manchester City have achieved under him, he will surely find new destinations and take on new challenges. 

Guardiola is a very smart man and doesn’t want his reputation destroyed that’s why he knows the kind of team he joins. Firstly he considers the financial status of the team, he prefers a team that is financially stable that have money to spend in order to transform them. He has certain qualities he needs in a player and only sign players that possess those qualities. He is not after the performance of the team before he joins he likes building the team all over even if it means he will have to do away with the team best players if they don’t suit his style of play. It is uncertain which team he will join next but it’s obvious he that he will soon leave Manchester City.

One thing I so much love about guardiola is that he always have different strategies in winning titles. Guardiola don't always bring the best players in his teams but has the understanding of how to build players to make them great, unlike other players that would want to get the best players to strengthen team. Guardiola is a coach that can perceive the potential of young players and build them to be great. I don't think Guardiola bringing money is all about a Club being financially buoyant because Guardiola don't really go for the most expensive players, he can just see a young players with good potential and develope the player.

[hahay]

While I do agree that KDB isn't against moving to Ittihad, I just don't think that it would be this season. He has a few more years at City if you ask me, he is only 33 years old, and could play until 35 there before he makes the move. Or, they may offer something insane for him, and both the club and the player may accept it, I do not know. I think that would be the most important part, how much is the offer?

Let's assume that they somehow convinced City, how much would they be willing to pay for KDB? He is still on top of his game, and they are not getting some old has been this time, it would be some great player who is awesome. They would need to offer something more than 50+ million a year at least, which I do not think would be smart.

After all, Modric and Kroos can still play at Real Madrid until they are 38 years old for Modric and 34 years old for Kroos. Basically, Real Madrid is a big team that certainly needs players who are also fit, but Real Madrid can entrust the two old players until retirement. With examples like that, then I think De Bruyne can also still be relied on for Manchester City's midfield next season. Because after all, De Bruyne's contract is also still one season away and thus, I think it would be better for De Bruyne to stay at Manchester City until his contract expires.

But indeed, it would be something different if for example Manchester City wanted to profit by selling De Bruyne, and if that happened then maybe De Bruyne would be sold in the transfer window at this moment. But for some reason, I personally believe Pep Guardiola will also still need De Bruyne for Manchester City's attacking line next season. Although indeed, at least De Bruyne is also still very vulnerable to getting injured again, but I'm sure Manchester City is able to overcome bad things like that.

[Mr.suevie]

🚨 𝐁𝐑𝐄𝐀𝐊𝐈𝐍𝐆: Jadon Sancho’s 𝐛𝐚𝐜𝐤 in training with Man United after meeting ten Hag! 🔴👀

Jadon Sancho held positive face to face meeting with Erik ten Hag this week as they’ve clarified the situation.

Both ten Hag and Sancho agreed to draw a line on their disagreement after last September case and move on.

Jadon, available for pre-season games and it could be big change for Manchester United plan on his future…

Sancho, back in training already today under ten Hag.

I stumbled on this in one of the Fabrizio's handles and I honestly was shocked to read this. I wasn't expecting players like
Sancho;
Greenwood;
To return to Manchester United under Erik Ten Hang. Especially Sancho. Why do Manchester United decide to bring him back. Check it well, it might not actually be that Erik Ten Hang misunderstanding with Sancho was the issue. It could be that Sancho is finding it difficult playing in English Premier league despite that he's from England. The energy and speed he prospers in Bundesliga will make you think my way. There's no doubt that Sancho is a star on his day, let's see what the new season has.

I totally agree with you because Sancho showed another class when he was playing at Dortmund where as in Manchester united the man was struggling to make any positive contribution to the team and it would make one even think if he is worth the money spent on him which he obviously showed he was but let's hope his coming back to united would actually have a different vibe from the one he started with at united.

[iBaba]

But what if Rodri and Haaland leave Manchester City? The club will perform very poorly next season.

If both of them also leaves Manchester City would definitely have serious issues.    Rodri is a player who is rare of his kind. His skillsets and strength are making huge difference for his team.

Rodri is one few Spanish players I respect including Yamal and Morata, most especially as a young talented talented player who works towards building himself. He's no doubt one of the top players the Manchester City squad have right now and leaving the club together with Haaland are going to affect the club's delivery. Although, in as much as Pep Guardiola is still in charge, he will always find a way to navigate the club to perform their best in the season.

[RockBell]

I mean wanting to leave makes sense for Pep, but I do not think that there is any team out there which would make him want to leave City for now. Maybe next season there could be one, and we all know that he will be at City at least for this season as well, which is fine.

But at the same time, I feel like we are talking about a scenario where it is going to be hard and tough for him if he leaves for a bad team. So he needs to figure out where he wants to go to, he was in la liga, he was in bundesliga, and he was in premier league, maybe it's time for him to go to ligue one to serie a? Those are the ones that he hasn't won anything with just yet. If he goes to PSG or some team like Juventus and bring UCL to them, it would be super awesome.

I don't think pep will have any reason to leave Manchester City, and since the management knows his value of pep so they won't do anything to angry him because pep has been of serious help to Manchester City even next season i don't think their their will be any reason. And even next season pep won't go and am sure he is going to renew is contract with Manchester City.

Pep won't go to a new club that is weak because of his accomplishments. And eventually if he goes to any club that is weak, he will try is best to build that club and that is with talent. And I don't think he will wants to leave City even when they become weak, and I have not seen a coach  That will leave a club just they are weak. As for me pep should just stay in City their is nothing for now to change his mind.

[Oluwa-btc]

🚨 𝐁𝐑𝐄𝐀𝐊𝐈𝐍𝐆: Jadon Sancho’s 𝐛𝐚𝐜𝐤 in training with Man United after meeting ten Hag! 🔴👀

Jadon Sancho held positive face to face meeting with Erik ten Hag this week as they’ve clarified the situation.

Both ten Hag and Sancho agreed to draw a line on their disagreement after last September case and move on.

Jadon, available for pre-season games and it could be big change for Manchester United plan on his future…

Sancho, back in training already today under ten Hag.

I stumbled on this in one of the Fabrizio's handles and I honestly was shocked to read this. I wasn't expecting players like
Sancho;
Greenwood;
To return to Manchester United under Erik Ten Hang. Especially Sancho. Why do Manchester United decide to bring him back. Check it well, it might not actually be that Erik Ten Hang misunderstanding with Sancho was the issue. It could be that Sancho is finding it difficult playing in English Premier league despite that he's from England. The energy and speed he prospers in Bundesliga will make you think my way. There's no doubt that Sancho is a star on his day, let's see what the new season has.

I was also surprised when I first read that tweet. Because it wasn't looking like Erik ten Hag and Sancho would find a middle course. Sancho was really obstinate about not apologizing and Erik ten Hag's decision on him was final because of that.

But it is nice to hear that there is no problem left between these two. However the question is, will Sancho start playing much better than before?    I still have doubts about that.

The reason why I think like that is he wasn't performing amazingly before this incident either. He was far from his performance at Dortmund. But I hope he proves me wrong and starts being beneficial for his team as of now.

If he won't be sold out, what happens to Amad Diallo? Anthony? Would they be part of the long term plans of the club? Jadon Sancho is lucky, he'd be sold out if he had not done what he was suppose to do. How can a manager ask you to apologize and you bring up bullshit rambling?! It's great to have him back and n because he was a player that saw it to the finals in the Champions League Competition, he knows what's it like now and can pass it on to others.

He would, fuel, passion, he'd want to win back his position he'll want to impress the manager, tue number nine striker will indeed benefit a whole lot from all these hungry forwards.
There'll be so much games from the Uefa European Europa League Competition to the Premier League Competition and stuff's. A sound midfielder is what I'm asking for now.

I sure the management of Manchester United will be looking forward to bring in two qualified defenders this season, I'm sure of Erik Ten Hag getting Manchester United in the top two or three clubs.