⚽ Premier League 2024/2025 Discussion Thread ⚽

[DiMarxist]

Despite owning Klopp's squad legacy, but Slot knew better about United rather than ten hag. If you're watching Slot's post interview, then you would see how he was breaking down Ten Hag's pressing. he even exposed United's tactic to the public.

When you see an experienced manager who knows how to study the tactical structure of his opponents before playing against so he can device a means of coming top at the end of the day, you'll definitely not struggle to notice about his professionalism. Arne Slot came to Liverpool and started with by studying the tactical approaches of his predecessor Jurgen Klopp which was why he was able to use the squad at his disposal effectively without even adding a new player in their mix. Like you rightly said, he exposed the weakness of Erik ten Hag's tactics which was why deviced the best tactical approach to get all three points from the game at Old Trafford yesterday and that actually worked perfectly for him.

Knowing the strategy of an opposite opponent is common and understandable, starting a working process is actually hard and I must give Arne Slot an accolades because not every new coach can start the season newly with an amazing performance, when Arteta started also he got some similar issue even few old coach find it difficult coping this season.
Talking about Ten hag strategy is kinda funny since few people can tell their weakness and strategy although that’s just normal, last season when Arteta and pep Guardiola played their last match it got complicated mainly because they knew themselves, also Unai Emery knows how to play against Arsenal so it’s normal. Ten hag and his team just need to sit up if they want a chance or else their fans should not expect something serious this season.

[irhact]

They didn't lose the match because they stepped up with their defense. If they had continued with the way they were playing then they will probably would have lost. However, before i was comparing the performance of Manchester United to be the same with Chelsea but now i can boldly say that Chelsea has improved and now have better performance to Manchester United this season. Even if the winning the league is not assured at least coming out top 5 should be what they should be concerned about. If care is not taken Manchester United will not be going to the Champions league next season. With the way they are playing now there is no hope at all.

Isn't it too early to start comparing the performance of Chelsea and Manchester united. Both clubs aren't playing very well because they haven't won all their three games that they have played. Chelsea has a new management therefore the playing style they used to play before can't be the same as they have new coaching staff and team. We have to give them some time in the season to see if their new playing style is going to get them victory. My hopes aren't that up for them as they didn't get a top striker in the just ended transfer window as they needed one and relying on just Jackson can't guarantee them top 4 finish this season.

[FinePoine0]

Despite owning Klopp's squad legacy, but Slot knew better about United rather than ten hag. If you're watching Slot's post interview, then you would see how he was breaking down Ten Hag's pressing. he even exposed United's tactic to the public.

When you see an experienced manager who knows how to study the tactical structure of his opponents before playing against so he can device a means of coming top at the end of the day, you'll definitely not struggle to notice about his professionalism. Arne Slot came to Liverpool and started with by studying the tactical approaches of his predecessor Jurgen Klopp which was why he was able to use the squad at his disposal effectively without even adding a new player in their mix. Like you rightly said, he exposed the weakness of Erik ten Hag's tactics which was why deviced the best tactical approach to get all three points from the game at Old Trafford yesterday and that actually worked perfectly for him.

Knowing the strategy of an opposite opponent is common and understandable, starting a working process is actually hard and I must give Arne Slot an accolades because not every new coach can start the season newly with an amazing performance, when Arteta started also he got some similar issue even few old coach find it difficult coping this season.
Talking about Ten hag strategy is kinda funny since few people can tell their weakness and strategy although that’s just normal, last season when Arteta and pep Guardiola played their last match it got complicated mainly because they knew themselves, also Unai Emery knows how to play against Arsenal so it’s normal. Ten hag and his team just need to sit up if they want a chance or else their fans should not expect something serious this season.

However, the coach of the club changes and the coach must be given a long time, because a new coach cannot suddenly show good performance. Although he has to deal with the toughest situations at the moment, he has to spend a little more time being friendly with each player and teaching them important tricks.  In this case, the players have tried hard on behalf of the Chelsea team but they are performing very well in this new season.

[Litzki1990]

Despite owning Klopp's squad legacy, but Slot knew better about United rather than ten hag. If you're watching Slot's post interview, then you would see how he was breaking down Ten Hag's pressing. he even exposed United's tactic to the public.

When you see an experienced manager who knows how to study the tactical structure of his opponents before playing against so he can device a means of coming top at the end of the day, you'll definitely not struggle to notice about his professionalism. Arne Slot came to Liverpool and started with by studying the tactical approaches of his predecessor Jurgen Klopp which was why he was able to use the squad at his disposal effectively without even adding a new player in their mix. Like you rightly said, he exposed the weakness of Erik ten Hag's tactics which was why deviced the best tactical approach to get all three points from the game at Old Trafford yesterday and that actually worked perfectly for him.

Liverpool must accept the fact that they have lost a manager of great quality and will certainly understand the void. The manager who was in charge for a long time and after being in charge, he deliberately stepped away from the responsibility of Liverpool, but the new manager who took charge of Liverpool cannot be said to be applying a brand new strategy. In many cases we see the current manager managing the team with the same strategy that the former manager of Liverpool used to manage the players. The former technique has some advantages in managing teams. Most of Liverpool's players are old, Klopp has been training them for a long time, so if the players play with that strategy, it will be easier for them to understand. But the most challenging thing for the current manager this season is to get Liverpool's current team to at least a good position in the Premier League.

[pawel7777]

What are your thoughts on Chelsea this season? Do we think they have a reasonable chance of finishing in the top 4?
It's hard to judge them after only 3 games, but I think the lack of consistency will make it hard for them to succeed. So far they have one lost game to Man City, one impressive away win over Wolves (6-2) and a home draw against Crystal Palace, which was a bit disappointing, considering how dominating Chelsea was and how many good scoring chances they were able to create.
I still think that replacing Pochettino with Maresca was a risky and unnecessary move. Maresca only ever managed 2 clubs before and his managerial career started only in 2021. But maybe I'm wrong and maybe new, inexperienced managers are more hungry and willing to put in extra work for the club. I guess the time will tell.

[mamesso]

Manchester United owner (Jim Ratcliffe) expression after his team was humiliated by Liverpool at Old Trafford.

Ten Hag has not been able to improve Manchester United performance even though the club owner has spent a lot of money to bring in new players in the transfer market. Players like De Ligt, Joshua Zikzee, Manuel Ugarte and Leni Yoro have been brought to Old Trafford, but Manchester United performance is still like a mediocre team that is very easy to beat. Manchester United players often make mistakes that benefit Liverpool, Manchester United overall performance is very poor and Ten Hag must be responsible for the minor results achieved by his team.

Jim Ratcliffe could not hide his disappointment after the team he led was humiliated in front of their fans, even though they had added strength by bringing in new faces, the team's performance was still far from what was expected. It seems that Ten Hag position is on the brink, trust in him is starting to fade, and now fans are even demanding that he be fired immediately after suffering two defeats from three matches at the start of this season.
So what do you think, will Ten Hag be retained until the end of the season or will he be replaced midway?

[Palakka]

What are your thoughts on Chelsea this season? Do we think they have a reasonable chance of finishing in the top 4?
It's hard to judge them after only 3 games, but I think the lack of consistency will make it hard for them to succeed. So far they have one lost game to Man City, one impressive away win over Wolves (6-2) and a home draw against Crystal Palace, which was a bit disappointing, considering how dominating Chelsea was and how many good scoring chances they were able to create.
I still think that replacing Pochettino with Maresca was a risky and unnecessary move. Maresca only ever managed 2 clubs before and his managerial career started only in 2021. But maybe I'm wrong and maybe new, inexperienced managers are more hungry and willing to put in extra work for the club. I guess the time will tell.

Chelsea is one of the teams that has very good squad depth at the moment, but they are still not able to show consistent performance in their  game, the defeat to Manchester City at the start of the match was a big blow for Chelsea but they showed an extraordinary comeback in match against Wolves, after we havebig hope because that big win, then Chelsea again got negative results in the conference league and even yesterday we saw how weak the mentality of the Chelsea players was after they failed to win over Crystal Palace, looking at the depth of the squad they currently have, it is possible Chelsea has a strong squad this season, but with the condition that Maresca must be able to improve the mentality of the Chelsea players, however  if their continue to be inconsistent in the match then it is very likely that this season Chelsea will be thrown out of the top 4 zone in end season.

[asriloni]

What are your thoughts on Chelsea this season?

Chelsea's is still the same as last season. They still struggle with their midfield and force to play their players not in their actual positions.

Do we think they have a reasonable chance of finishing in the top 4?

I think they have a good chance to finish in the top 4, if they fix their attackers and midfielders. but their midfielders should be the priority.

It's hard to judge them after only 3 games, but I think the lack of consistency will make it hard for them to succeed.

To be fair, it needs at least a half of a season to judge Chelsea's performance. It's not fair to judge them based on the last three games. But, we can see they still struggle with the same problems as last season. They keep putting their players to play not in their actual positions. Just like when Palmer was the one dropping deep. He should have just stayed further up the pitch. And this is even worse than being inconsistent.

[Dickiy]

What are your thoughts on Chelsea this season? Do we think they have a reasonable chance of finishing in the top 4?
It's hard to judge them after only 3 games, but I think the lack of consistency will make it hard for them to succeed. So far they have one lost game to Man City, one impressive away win over Wolves (6-2) and a home draw against Crystal Palace, which was a bit disappointing, considering how dominating Chelsea was and how many good scoring chances they were able to create.
I still think that replacing Pochettino with Maresca was a risky and unnecessary move. Maresca only ever managed 2 clubs before and his managerial career started only in 2021. But maybe I'm wrong and maybe new, inexperienced managers are more hungry and willing to put in extra work for the club. I guess the time will tell.

It can be said that Chelsea's performance in the 3 matches that have been played is indeed unstable and can even be said to be bad, because the Chelsea squad currently has a lot of player choices and that could make Maresca confused in determining who will be fielded in the matches that will be played later, in the sense that there is indeed no game pattern that has been determined for now, but for the chances it can be said to be still high as long as Chelsea can fix it from now on so it is still too early to judge Chelsea's performance under Maresca's guidance, it could be that in the future it will provide a surprise or even make things worse, let's just wait and see.

[Velvet78]

What are your thoughts on Chelsea this season? Do we think they have a reasonable chance of finishing in the top 4?
It's hard to judge them after only 3 games, but I think the lack of consistency will make it hard for them to succeed. So far they have one lost game to Man City, one impressive away win over Wolves (6-2) and a home draw against Crystal Palace, which was a bit disappointing, considering how dominating Chelsea was and how many good scoring chances they were able to create.
I still think that replacing Pochettino with Maresca was a risky and unnecessary move. Maresca only ever managed 2 clubs before and his managerial career started only in 2021. But maybe I'm wrong and maybe new, inexperienced managers are more hungry and willing to put in extra work for the club. I guess the time will tell.

They are still lacking one very precious thing: consistency.    This is like a big obstacle that they just can't get over it. It doesn't matter how good they play unless they get wins more often. It is that simple yeah.

Palmer and Madueke are the best players in the squad right now. Jackson is also starting to give good signals recently. I hope these positive things would lead to some good winning streak in the near future.

When it comes to the manager change, I said it a thousand times... Pochettino was doing great in the last times of the previous season. They won many games and climbed many positions. But still he ended up with getting sacked. So wrong decision... 

[hahay]

They didn't lose the match because they stepped up with their defense. If they had continued with the way they were playing then they will probably would have lost. However, before i was comparing the performance of Manchester United to be the same with Chelsea but now i can boldly say that Chelsea has improved and now have better performance to Manchester United this season. Even if the winning the league is not assured at least coming out top 5 should be what they should be concerned about. If care is not taken Manchester United will not be going to the Champions league next season. With the way they are playing now there is no hope at all.

Isn't it too early to start comparing the performance of Chelsea and Manchester united. Both clubs aren't playing very well because they haven't won all their three games that they have played. Chelsea has a new management therefore the playing style they used to play before can't be the same as they have new coaching staff and team. We have to give them some time in the season to see if their new playing style is going to get them victory. My hopes aren't that up for them as they didn't get a top striker in the just ended transfer window as they needed one and relying on just Jackson can't guarantee them top 4 finish this season.

Yes indeed, it is too early to compare them and draw conclusions on their current performance, because of course there are still many opportunities for them to get good results over time. After all, last season Chelsea also was only struggling in the middle of the standings, but approaching the end of the season Chelsea managed to get good results. Indeed, Chelsea has a new management, but that does not mean Chelsea will continue to slump because of course, Enzo Maresca certainly has good ways and efforts to make Chelsea rise over time.

Also, until now they have just played three matches even though Manchester United have indeed gotten worse results  compared to Chelsea. But at this moment I am sure, it is still too early to draw conclusions because I sure, they still have a chance to rise because they are basically a top team that has the ability to rise at least not to fall too deep.

[beerlover]

Liverpool must accept the fact that they have lost a manager of great quality and will certainly understand the void. The manager who was in charge for a long time and after being in charge, he deliberately stepped away from the responsibility of Liverpool, but the new manager who took charge of Liverpool cannot be said to be applying a brand new strategy. In many cases we see the current manager managing the team with the same strategy that the former manager of Liverpool used to manage the players. The former technique has some advantages in managing teams. Most of Liverpool's players are old, Klopp has been training them for a long time, so if the players play with that strategy, it will be easier for them to understand. But the most challenging thing for the current manager this season is to get Liverpool's current team to at least a good position in the Premier League.

To be fair, they are not in bad situation at the moment, I understand that it may look like that but for the time being but Arne Slot doesn't feel like he is a bad manager at all, he is doing fine and I bet that he will continue to do fine for a while longer. Losing Klopp is something that may look like it's something terrible but at the end of the day it's going to be a bad situation if they didn't get anyone great, instead they got a great manager and thanks to that they are doing fine.

Arne Slot has been doing great so far and feels like they are going to see this season go great as well, which is why I believe that we can see much better results. The reality is that we can't really assume that Arne is bad just because they had Klopp before, who knows maybe Arne Slot will get much more trophies with them than Klopp, who knows? Right now he had only a few games with Liverpool and so far all of them has been great, this is why I think they can be very happy.

[legendbtc]

Liverpool must accept the fact that they have lost a manager of great quality and will certainly understand the void. The manager who was in charge for a long time and after being in charge, he deliberately stepped away from the responsibility of Liverpool, but the new manager who took charge of Liverpool cannot be said to be applying a brand new strategy. In many cases we see the current manager managing the team with the same strategy that the former manager of Liverpool used to manage the players. The former technique has some advantages in managing teams. Most of Liverpool's players are old, Klopp has been training them for a long time, so if the players play with that strategy, it will be easier for them to understand. But the most challenging thing for the current manager this season is to get Liverpool's current team to at least a good position in the Premier League.

To be fair, they are not in bad situation at the moment, I understand that it may look like that but for the time being but Arne Slot doesn't feel like he is a bad manager at all, he is doing fine and I bet that he will continue to do fine for a while longer. Losing Klopp is something that may look like it's something terrible but at the end of the day it's going to be a bad situation if they didn't get anyone great, instead they got a great manager and thanks to that they are doing fine.

Arne Slot has been doing great so far and feels like they are going to see this season go great as well, which is why I believe that we can see much better results. The reality is that we can't really assume that Arne is bad just because they had Klopp before, who knows maybe Arne Slot will get much more trophies with them than Klopp, who knows? Right now he had only a few games with Liverpool and so far all of them has been great, this is why I think they can be very happy.

After 3 matches in charge of Liverpool, Arne Slot has had a nean-perfect start. Slot still uses the framework left by Jurgen Klopp but has made tactical adjustments. This shows that Jurgen Klopp's departure does not affect Liverpool's championship race. Arne Slot looks like a smart appointment by Liverpool's board. The 45-year-old is doing a good job replacing Jurgen Klopp.
One problem that limited Liverpool's ability to compete for the title last season was a porous defense. Making sure Alisson doesn't have to make many saves is part of Slot's new plan. I believe this is a way to help Liverpool become champions this season. But the problems that Arne Slot needs to solve in the coming time are that Liverpool's main pillars are also reaching their twilight years, and they will leave Liverpool at any time. Especially Mohamed Salah. Arne Slot should start working now to find new players to replace these pillars.

[uchegod-21]

What are your thoughts on Chelsea this season? Do we think they have a reasonable chance of finishing in the top 4?
It's hard to judge them after only 3 games, but I think the lack of consistency will make it hard for them to succeed. So far they have one lost game to Man City, one impressive away win over Wolves (6-2) and a home draw against Crystal Palace, which was a bit disappointing, considering how dominating Chelsea was and how many good scoring chances they were able to create.
I still think that replacing Pochettino with Maresca was a risky and unnecessary move. Maresca only ever managed 2 clubs before and his managerial career started only in 2021. But maybe I'm wrong and maybe new, inexperienced managers are more hungry and willing to put in extra work for the club. I guess the time will tell.

So far, Chelsea is not doing great and they might also not do great as the league unfolds. I might not actually predict where Chelsea will be this season but I am sure they might not end the season above Aston villa. Despite that Aston Villa has champions league responsibilities without a deep team, they will still find a way to finish above Chelsea.

However, all it takes is understanding of the team and everything will change for the club. Chelsea has some decent young footballers who are able to change the narrative if the right coach ignites them.

[mammusu]

What are your thoughts on Chelsea this season? Do we think they have a reasonable chance of finishing in the top 4?
It's hard to judge them after only 3 games, but I think the lack of consistency will make it hard for them to succeed. So far they have one lost game to Man City, one impressive away win over Wolves (6-2) and a home draw against Crystal Palace, which was a bit disappointing, considering how dominating Chelsea was and how many good scoring chances they were able to create.
I still think that replacing Pochettino with Maresca was a risky and unnecessary move. Maresca only ever managed 2 clubs before and his managerial career started only in 2021. But maybe I'm wrong and maybe new, inexperienced managers are more hungry and willing to put in extra work for the club. I guess the time will tell.

It can be said that Chelsea's performance in the 3 matches that have been played is indeed unstable and can even be said to be bad, because the Chelsea squad currently has a lot of player choices and that could make Maresca confused in determining who will be fielded in the matches that will be played later, in the sense that there is indeed no game pattern that has been determined for now, but for the chances it can be said to be still high as long as Chelsea can fix it from now on so it is still too early to judge Chelsea's performance under Maresca's guidance, it could be that in the future it will provide a surprise or even make things worse, let's just wait and see.

The results of two wins from the 5 matches they played in all competitions are clearly not the results expected by fans at this time, especially if you look at Chelsea journey in the English league in an unstable condition with 1 defeat, 1 win and 1 draw, of course it makes the fans worried about Chelsea chances of competing for the title this season, I think for now we may still be too early to assume that Chelsea is not competent to compete in the English league this season just because of the results of these 3 matches, but we should remember that the English league is a league which is very competitive, even when a team loses two points in a match it will be a very big loss, because every team in the English league has a target and ambition to end the season as champions and if Chelsea from the start of the season has lost a lot of points, doesn't it will be difficult for they be able to catch up with the points left behind by other teams later?

[len01]

The results of two wins from the 5 matches they played in all competitions are clearly not the results expected by fans at this time, especially if you look at Chelsea journey in the English league in an unstable condition with 1 defeat, 1 win and 1 draw, of course it makes the fans worried about Chelsea chances of competing for the title this season, I think for now we may still be too early to assume that Chelsea is not competent to compete in the English league this season just because of the results of these 3 matches, but we should remember that the English league is a league which is very competitive, even when a team loses two points in a match it will be a very big loss, because every team in the English league has a target and ambition to end the season as champions and if Chelsea from the start of the season has lost a lot of points, doesn't it will be difficult for they be able to catch up with the points left behind by other teams later?

Chelsea still looks unstable and often loses consistency and even this season when playing at home against Crystal Palace could only end in a draw. I am sure the concern is not only from the fans but also from the bettors who will be very worried if they bet on an inconsistent Chelsea match. Regarding catching up on the points that are left behind, it can actually be done but all of that requires high consistency and depends on Enzo who is currently responsible for Chelsea future. In the upcoming match, Chelsea will face Bournemouth and if Chelsea cannot get 3 points in that match, I am sure Chelsea will have problems in catching up on those points.

[AprilioMP]

Chelsea's is still the same as last season. They still struggle with their midfield and force to play their players not in their actual positions.

Up to 3 matches, they are not much different from last season where they each got 1 loss, 1 win and 1 draw.
Their level of difficulty and compactness has not changed much for the better.

I think they have a good chance to finish in the top 4, if they fix their attackers and midfielders. but their midfielders should be the priority.

Nkunku, Mudryk, Felix, Johson supported by Palmer and Enzo, they are lacking in terms of scoring goals and creating goal opportunities.
If they still haven't found the best format with the level of cooperation as a team, I think competing in the top 4 until the middle of the season is a bit difficult.

[Oluwa-btc]

Erik ten Hag says he is no Harry Potter, he can't do magic. However he should accept the fact that the fans will criticized him even harder in time as long as there is no improvement in results. You are even lucky that Manchester United isn't one of the impatient clubs.  

There great transfers for defense. This should show its good impact sooner or later. Ugarte has also arrived so I hope he takes Casemiro's place in no time. Because Casemiro is still a disappointment...

Other than defense, another disappointing thing was their scoring. Only 2 goals in 3 games? This isn't a good performance by the attackers. Bruno Fernandes didn't even play in his main position in the first two games.  

Even before that interview, I have always said it a zillion times, Erik Ten Hag is not a magician. He can not school players how to kick the ball or which leg to control and pass the ball, they're professionals and should be able to do that but players fail to do so and they're to be blamed or substituted. You can only call out Erik Ten Hag for making the wrong call or substituting the wrong off the pitch. When you talk about patience, you need to also know that Manchester United fans lacks patience, they're serial winners who have experienced a lot of success but they need to know that this kind of changes takes time. Those two trophies won in the first two seasons are compensations.
The defense did well, if you point at Andrea Onana's positioning I'll agree but don't talk bad about the defenders. It was mainly Casemiro who caused two big blunders leading to the first two goals scored. They have improvements from how they played last season I must say, they have just been unlucky with converting these chances created. It's good to see Manchester United management backing Erik Ten Hag, he needs to start winning to silenced the noise anyways.

[reagansimms]

Isn't it too early to start comparing the performance of Chelsea and Manchester united. Both clubs aren't playing very well because they haven't won all their three games that they have played. Chelsea has a new management therefore the playing style they used to play before can't be the same as they have new coaching staff and team. We have to give them some time in the season to see if their new playing style is going to get them victory. My hopes aren't that up for them as they didn't get a top striker in the just ended transfer window as they needed one and relying on just Jackson can't guarantee them top 4 finish this season.

Chelsea and Manchester United have both made less than convincing starts to the season, but the performance of both cannot be compared in just the three matches that have been played. Ten Hag has spent two seasons with Manchester United and is now entering his third year at Old Trafford. Manchester United are still struggling to get back on track, two defeats from three games played are a setback for Manchester United, even though they have just brought in several quality players in the transfer market, but Ten Hag is still having difficulty getting his team on the right track. It seems like Manchester United management must take steps to find a replacement for Ten Hag if they do not want to continue to fall to a lower position in the standings.

Chelsea are starting a new project under the management of Enzo Maresca, the players need to adapt to the tactics used by the coach. Currently Enzo Maresca has not found the best strategy to improve Chelsea performance, they still need time to return to winning ways. Maresca must improve many things to stabilize his team, he must re-analyze his team's mistakes that made it so easy for the opposing team to penetrate his defense area. Chelsea's new era has just begun with Maresca, he must at least prove his worth for one season.

[Nanga Parbat]

Chelsea is one of the teams that has very good squad depth at the moment, but they are still not able to show consistent performance in their  game, the defeat to Manchester City at the start of the match was a big blow for Chelsea but they showed an extraordinary comeback in match against Wolves, after we havebig hope because that big win, then Chelsea again got negative results in the conference league and even yesterday we saw how weak the mentality of the Chelsea players was after they failed to win over Crystal Palace, looking at the depth of the squad they currently have, it is possible Chelsea has a strong squad this season, but with the condition that Maresca must be able to improve the mentality of the Chelsea players, however  if their continue to be inconsistent in the match then it is very likely that this season Chelsea will be thrown out of the top 4 zone in end season.

Whenever I hear the name of the Chelsea team, I am proud to predict them.  And his performance is so impressive that even if one does not call him good, he is also forced to call him good.  And as far as their performance is concerned, it is very good and top notch.  I am not saying that they don't lose a single match but their performance is second to none and they are winning most of the matches.  That's why you and others praise them. You are right that Chelsea lost, but if you look at Manchester, they are also a good team.  For this reason, it is difficult to say that Chelsea were weak.  Chelsea are now failing to work hard and try.  It could also be because Chelsea will forget their performance after making a name for themselves.  Yes, I feel the same now that this season Chelsea will not win and will lose matches because they are not using their strengths as they used to.