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July 09, 2023, 03:03:20 PM
Last edit: July 09, 2023, 03:17:14 PM by Gozie51
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Hey guys, reading little story on Kylian Mbappe who on Thursday visited Cameroon on a charity with the deaf and other familiarization visit to his father's home town. He spoke with Joseph Dion Ngute, the Cameroon's Prime Minister, he was honoured visiting and I believe this is just like the humanitarian work some influential people do

But one striking revelation was that he would have been a cameroonian player if they weren't asking his father to pay them money before allowing him to play while he still trying to fix his career and French allowed him without payment.

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"At first, I wanted my son to play for Cameroon, but someone at the Cameroonian Football Federation charged me money that I didn't have to make him play," he explained. " The French charged nothing."

I have also heard of some local stories about how some coaches require money from new footballers before they allow them on trier both in their clubs and national teams. Is this happening globally for new players who are still seeking to find a spot in clubs?

Do you think Cameroun miss Mbappe or it is Mbappe that missed Cameroun ?

https://theafricanhistory.com/2975#:~:text=My%20father

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July 09, 2023, 03:22:50 PM
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[....]Do you think Cameroun miss Mbappe or it is Mbappe that missed Cameroun ?
The answer should be obvious.
Mbappe also said Cameroon was calling and giving him citizenship so....

I thought maybe some fake representative is trying to scam them but doesn't seem to be the case. I cannot find any article where officials from the Cameroon Football Federation denying the allegations so it's probably true.

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July 09, 2023, 03:36:18 PM
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Hey guys, reading little story on Kylian Mbappe who on Thursday visited Cameroon on a charity with the deaf and other familiarization visit to his father's home town. He spoke with Joseph Dion Ngute, the Cameroon's Prime Minister, he was honoured visiting and I believe this is just like the humanitarian work some influential people do

But one striking revelation was that he would have been a cameroonian player if they weren't asking his father to pay them money before allowing him to play while he still trying to fix his career and French allowed him without payment.

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"At first, I wanted my son to play for Cameroon, but someone at the Cameroonian Football Federation charged me money that I didn't have to make him play," he explained. " The French charged nothing."

I have also heard of some local stories about how some coaches require money from new footballers before they allow them on trier both in their clubs and national teams. Is this happening globally for new players who are still seeking to find a spot in clubs?

Do you think Cameroun miss Mbappe or it is Mbappe that missed Cameroun ?

https://theafricanhistory.com/2975#:~:text=My%20father

That is how you lose on a great player like Mbappe when you are a corrupted country like Cameroon and many other African countries lose such star players exactly because of the same reason.Also in many other third countries in the world the same is happening and I think these type of interviews should have much wider visibility so those people who asked for money would be seeing how big these players become and stop doing it.I know that it is much more difficult to achieve because we are talking about poor countries but these poor countries should start to think bigger for themselves.It would be nice to see such a player playing for Cameroon,not that I don't like seeing him play with France.

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July 09, 2023, 03:47:07 PM
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https://theafricanhistory.com/2975#:~:text=My%20father


That is how you lose on a great player like Mbappe when you are a corrupted country like Cameroon and many other African countries lose such star players exactly because of the same reason.Also in many other third countries in the world the same is happening and I think these type of interviews should have much wider visibility so those people who asked for money would be seeing how big these players become and stop doing it.I know that it is much more difficult to achieve because we are talking about poor countries but these poor countries should start to think bigger for themselves.It would be nice to see such a player playing for Cameroon,not that I don't like seeing him play with France.

Yeah this type of stories happen in third world countries and they lose valuable players who want to give all to the club or national team. The thread is bad. When you place money first in whatever you want to do then the best will elude you. This is appalling and the reason that third world countries struggle in football especially countries from Africa.

Those at the tops only care about their own immediate financial benefit and not care where the player gets to tomorrow with the myopic thinking that they have benefited from the player. I will still blame the government when it comes to corruption.

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July 09, 2023, 04:04:38 PM
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Ironically, Cameroon national team lost one of the best players in the world because a greedy and corrupt agent (or a group of them) had a bribery scheme to recruit new players. Imagine how further they could reach on World Cups if they had Mbappé on the team, profiting much more and getting much more recognization than what they would have earned with the bribery... Corrupt people think they are smart, but they can only see things on short term. What really matters is what happens on long term, and that is something only God knows and sees. So better to walk straightest as possible in life, never creating obstacles for our fellow beings, rather trying to help them as possible.

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July 09, 2023, 04:12:55 PM
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Quite of an old thing especially with sports industry in general and not only with football alone. Whether it is jist a scam being pulled by a nobody or an organization, this should be alarming for serious franchise of any sports indistry 'coz a bright future of their players are being played on simply because money has the power to do so. pArt of this, I guess, is scouting. Many talents are being wasted because of such scheme instead of them to be on a better team that would hone their full potential and to be a bigger 'someone' in the future. Not only with governments but the league should also put attention on such cases.

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July 09, 2023, 04:28:19 PM
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Cameroon lost Mbappe, in my humble opinion.  Specially since he became World famous because his role in the last world cup, facing Messi in Qatar.

I knew there was corruption within the football world, but I never imagined it could be as widespread to even affect selections and teams on adquiring talented players. I thought corruption was mostly present in high positions... Very unfortunate for developing countries where talented people live, like Brazil, Argentina, Cameroon, among others.

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July 09, 2023, 04:38:02 PM
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Cameroon lost Mbappe, in my humble opinion.  Specially since he became World famous because his role in the last world cup, facing Messi in Qatar.

I knew there was corruption within the football world, but I never imagined it could be as widespread to even affect selections and teams on adquiring talented players. I thought corruption was mostly present in high positions... Very unfortunate for developing countries where talented people live, like Brazil, Argentina, Cameroon, among others.

In the case of Brazil or Argentina which are also regarded as third world countries, theirs is still fair if they do such obnoxious stuff because they still perform better during world tournament. Maybe in there own case, most of the players are gifted and it doesn't affect them as such. Or maybe they have had issues of selection during tournament that they didn't perform to expectation.

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July 09, 2023, 04:44:46 PM
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I have also heard of some local stories about how some coaches require money from new footballers before they allow them on trier both in their clubs and national teams. Is this happening globally for new players who are still seeking to find a spot in clubs?
This will be common in countries that are corrupt and this is one of the reasons corrupt countries will lack good players. I have noticed that this is common in countries like Africa. But maybe not common in countries with better players in the world like the South America and Europe.

The best players would be chosen if no corruption and bribery.

Do you think Cameroun miss Mbappe or it is Mbappe that missed Cameroun ?
Mbappe would have been a better product for Cameroon, but know that not only because a player is known to be good that he is good, also his team are also good and that makes them to be a better player. Probably Mbappe may not have become one of the players among the team that won world cup, but definitely he will still be known as he plays for club. I see Cameroon to miss him though, he would have been a better player there.

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July 09, 2023, 04:47:06 PM
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I believe that this happened a lot in sports industry. There are many talented athlete that are being wasted because of the money that they are being ask to pay before entering a league or somekind. It's common for a third world country where sports organizations aren't being well funded and the organization heads doesn't make that much money that they decided to get it from the aspiring players. Cameroon missed Mbappe real hard and Mbappe exposed them as well.
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July 09, 2023, 04:47:10 PM
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This can happen if the team does not have a strong sponsor who can fund all the activities and training of the players on the team. And it's also happening in many countries that are looking for local players, and those local players have to pay an entrance fee to their teams. And if those new players don't want to pay their entry fee, they'll move on and find another team that doesn't use the money.

Usually, it happens in minor leagues for start-up beginners to train well and prepare them for the next level. Maybe Cameroon misses Mbappe.

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I believe that this happened a lot in sports industry. There are many talented athlete that are being wasted because of the money that they are being ask to pay before entering a league or somekind. It's common for a third world country where sports organizations aren't being well funded and the organization heads doesn't make that much money that they decided to get it from the aspiring players. Cameroon missed Mbappe real hard and Mbappe exposed them as well.
It is not that Mbappe exposed them, it is known to themselves in those third world countries that they are bribing. But the problem there is what you have said already. You will see a good talented people in those countries but unable to make it to national league just because of this. Not only that, the clubs in the counties will also suffer because only people that are able to bribe will be more in their clubs while talented people will not be able to get there. This proves how Africa has been lacking and unable to win world cup.

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July 09, 2023, 05:08:40 PM
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Do you think Cameroun miss Mbappe or it is Mbappe that missed Cameroun ?
Cameroun missed out on him because of corruption in the sport. Mbappe is one of the world's greatest talents currently and at a very young age, Cameroun would have been the country to have this player and not France, and from the way he plays, he can on his own be the difference in games, with him Cameroun would have had the chance to win the world cup.

But one striking revelation was that he would have been a cameroonian player if they weren't asking his father to pay them money before allowing him to play while he still trying to fix his career and French allowed him without payment.

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"At first, I wanted my son to play for Cameroon, but someone at the Cameroonian Football Federation charged me money that I didn't have to make him play," he explained. " The French charged nothing."

I have also heard of some local stories about how some coaches require money from new footballers before they allow them on trier both in their clubs and national teams. Is this happening globally for new players who are still seeking to find a spot in clubs?
This just reveals some indoor corruption in the sport. With that kind of corruption, it will be difficult for that country to be successful in the sport because the real talents who are not fortunate will never have the opportunity to play.

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July 09, 2023, 05:36:31 PM
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It wouldn't be surprising still, the corruption is everywhere. A lot of examples in African countries and this will just be one that will completely make the Cameroonian team look fake. One would ask if they also paid some amount to be part of the team. 

The father must be very disappointed as well, he could have been more proud if his own country team got his son's back but instead, they were asked to pay. I would also be exposing this kind of BS if I were the father.


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July 09, 2023, 05:41:30 PM
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This can happen if the team does not have a strong sponsor who can fund all the activities and training of the players on the team.

Corruption knows no bounds. It is just a selfish interest and self aggrandizement, nothing of such will be an excuse. Corruption takes any form whether sponsor or not. The case of Cameroon as reviewed by Mbappe's interview is sufficient. The national team of Cameroon won't lack such sponsor I believe because the government will provide all that was needed but few top officials will divert it into personal purse.

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Hey guys, reading little story on Kylian Mbappe who on Thursday visited Cameroon on a charity with the deaf and other familiarization visit to his father's home town. He spoke with Joseph Dion Ngute, the Cameroon's Prime Minister, he was honoured visiting and I believe this is just like the humanitarian work some influential people do

But one striking revelation was that he would have been a cameroonian player if they weren't asking his father to pay them money before allowing him to play while he still trying to fix his career and French allowed him without payment.

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"At first, I wanted my son to play for Cameroon, but someone at the Cameroonian Football Federation charged me money that I didn't have to make him play," he explained. " The French charged nothing."

I have also heard of some local stories about how some coaches require money from new footballers before they allow them on trier both in their clubs and national teams. Is this happening globally for new players who are still seeking to find a spot in clubs?

Do you think Cameroun miss Mbappe or it is Mbappe that missed Cameroun ?

https://theafricanhistory.com/2975#:~:text=My%20father
This doesn't just happen in Cameroon, this happens in all of soccer for all I know. The whole football scene is like this and they always victimize young talents that just wanted to play a fair game of soccer but couldn't because either their current roster's marketability is great enough that even if they don't win that much they still could get brand deals and make money off the players, or they just win so many games that changing the roster is going to affect their chances at claiming titles.

Either way it's stupid and there have been contingencies set in case something similar happens, otherwise I don't see why they would take in new talents in the first place.

This game is just stupid sometimes man. It's hard to defend it when even the system's rigged against the player.

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July 09, 2023, 08:28:09 PM
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Hey guys, reading little story on Kylian Mbappe who on Thursday visited Cameroon on a charity with the deaf and other familiarization visit to his father's home town. He spoke with Joseph Dion Ngute, the Cameroon's Prime Minister, he was honoured visiting and I believe this is just like the humanitarian work some influential people do

But one striking revelation was that he would have been a cameroonian player if they weren't asking his father to pay them money before allowing him to play while he still trying to fix his career and French allowed him without payment.

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"At first, I wanted my son to play for Cameroon, but someone at the Cameroonian Football Federation charged me money that I didn't have to make him play," he explained. " The French charged nothing."

I have also heard of some local stories about how some coaches require money from new footballers before they allow them on trier both in their clubs and national teams. Is this happening globally for new players who are still seeking to find a spot in clubs?

Do you think Cameroun miss Mbappe or it is Mbappe that missed Cameroun ?

https://theafricanhistory.com/2975#:~:text=My%20father
This doesn't just happen in Cameroon, this happens in all of soccer for all I know. The whole football scene is like this and they always victimize young talents that just wanted to play a fair game of soccer but couldn't because either their current roster's marketability is great enough that even if they don't win that much they still could get brand deals and make money off the players, or they just win so many games that changing the roster is going to affect their chances at claiming titles.

Either way it's stupid and there have been contingencies set in case something similar happens, otherwise I don't see why they would take in new talents in the first place.

This game is just stupid sometimes man. It's hard to defend it when even the system's rigged against the player.

It doesn't happen globally his father just said the French charge nothing so they stay with the French team. I'm not really familiar with football sports but I can see this is pretty much similar to other sports where players are being pirated by headhunters. Quite a revelation from Mbappe, will the football federation do something about this because someone just went rogue.

But I'm guessing the French team needs good players and they can't just let Mbappe go to some other team. No need to bribe says the captain just let us win.


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July 09, 2023, 08:44:06 PM
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I have also heard of some local stories about how some coaches require money from new footballers before they allow them on trier both in their clubs and national teams. Is this happening globally for new players who are still seeking to find a spot in clubs?
It happens well, some players are not allowed to play in their country so they will decide to fly to other countries which they will try their luck. Lots of African countries have lost lots of talented players just because of issues like this, if you cant pay coach or you are not connected to a highly influential person, then you wont be allowed to play even if you are very talented, they prefer allowing players that are less talented and can pay then to play. I dont really know if things like this happens in other regions but it happens in my side.

Do you think Cameroun miss Mbappe or it is Mbappe that missed Cameroun ?
He miss the country and the country also miss him. If he those not miss the country he wouldn't have visited the country, but the country really lost a very great talented player, the government should arrest the coach that was asking for money and he should be punished so that things like this wont happen in future again. coaches are suppose to build the team with the most talented players, and they shouldn't build the team due to the players that can pay them.

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As a blanket statement about all players this is obviously false. However, I’m sure there are exceptions to that rule. Especially when it comes to international football players. There is so much money being thrown at those guys, there’s literally nothing I wouldn’t believe is on the table for their behavior when it comes to cashing those sort of checks.

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As a blanket statement about all players this is obviously false. However, I’m sure there are exceptions to that rule. Especially when it comes to international football players. There is so much money being thrown at those guys, there’s literally nothing I wouldn’t believe is on the table for their behavior when it comes to cashing those sort of checks.

Every players have their own unique experiences when it comes to joining the league and maybe this is true since he will not say that and just ruin his reputation. Well this might not be a requirement but maybe a small team can’t pay that much and that’s why they need something in return so they can accept that player. If other players will make a statement like this, then we can validate that statement and I’m sure its not happening anymore.

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 the answer to your question is very simple and can be answered with another question: why do national teams in africa not get far in the world cups and we see good african players representing other european countries? the answer is very simple: because in africa corruption has been so great for years that the presidents of federations in africa keep charging money for talented players but without much fame to be able to play in the national teams, in many cases the players of the national teams and who take money out of their pockets to pay for a plane ticket and hotel so they can go and be in the country where the national team is going to play

The argument of the federations in Africa is that they don't have money, they always use this argument and many African players, when they see such absurd situations while in Europe they are given better treatment so they prefer to change nationality to play in Europe, it makes sense. all people want stability in life, we cannot condemn players who change their nationality, unfortunately in africa until today nothing has changed about corruption in sport. for example for african players to play in europe is not an easy task, they need to have agents linked to influential people to be able to take them from africa teams to europe

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Cameroon lost Mbappe. This just showed a very simple example of how corrupt the football scene is in Africa. As I've read somewhere before (I can't remember where), "They love money from Football, not Football itself". It's actually a simple case as well of something called Brain Drain, and in this case, a very straightforward (and dumb) reason as to why it happened in the first place even.

There might even be similar cases outside of Africa, but I guess it's a lot more obvious in it with an example like this. I am glad though that they lost Mbappe, chances are he might not have even rose as a star if they actually went through with it.

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"At first, I wanted my son to play for Cameroon, but someone at the Cameroonian Football Federation charged me money that I didn't have to make him play," he explained. " The French charged nothing."

I have also heard of some local stories about how some coaches require money from new footballers before they allow them on trier both in their clubs and national teams. Is this happening globally for new players who are still seeking to find a spot in clubs?

Do you think Cameroun miss Mbappe or it is Mbappe that missed Cameroun ?


Whoever that someone who asked for money before the player can play in a national team should be fired by the organization if they cannot fire him then there's really corruption in the Cameroonian Football Federation and this is not good for the sports of football in Cameroon, here in our country if you have the desire to be part of the national team even if you are new they will give a chance to try out and show your skill if you can be part of the national team, the government through the organization should be the paying the athlete and not the other way around.
Based on the story Mbappe is better to be with the French team because France has a good standing in the world of football and he will be compensated as a player.

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Bribing among football players is widespread in Africa, where national football federations have a vested interest in the significant earnings of their compatriots playing in Europe. Given the numerous revelations in the past, it is not surprising that such occurrences continue to happen. The fundamental issue lies in how the country's leadership responds to such news.

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Cameroonian football bureau did him dirty to really have requested for cash before letting him join the national team.. and I'm just wondering how the France National team accepted him, without serious conditions and fees... Maybe they saw his talent and wanted to have him between 'em? But how?..
But, ofcourse I do know that scouts are usually walking around to pick randomly from every fostering academy..., So that might have been a chance he got through with?  Maybe...

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the answer to your question is very simple and can be answered with another question: why do national teams in africa not get far in the world cups and we see good african players representing other european countries? the answer is very simple: because in africa corruption has been so great for years that the presidents of federations in africa keep charging money for talented players but without much fame to be able to play in the national teams, in many cases the players of the national teams and who take money out of their pockets to pay for a plane ticket and hotel so they can go and be in the country where the national team is going to play
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Several times over the years I have heard about corruption in African teams (not only African teams, but since we are talking about Cameroon I will focus here) and this would be a big reason why African soccer has not yet achieved more expressive results in world cups. I don't have the sources now because I don't even remember where I read it anymore, but it is the same story you are commenting on.

It is difficult to prove something, and it is also difficult to measure how much it affects the fact that players prefer to play for European teams, as is the case of Mbapeé and France, and many other Africans who have nationalized themselves to play for European countries. Probably not all players have been involved in bribery schemes.

In Brazil for example, it is quite common for coaches of smaller teams to have some kind of influence on the players, or even coaches of youth teams, under 17 and under 21, where parents with more money can pay for their son to play, or coaches who are also players' managers and favor them in the teams.
This influence decreases in big teams, but it is still a reality. Many Brazilian talents don't make it to a professional team because they couldn't pay to play, it's sad.

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July 09, 2023, 09:48:27 PM
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I have also heard of some local stories about how some coaches require money from new footballers before they allow them on trier both in their clubs and national teams. Is this happening globally for new players who are still seeking to find a spot in clubs?

Do you think Cameroun miss Mbappe or it is Mbappe that missed Cameroun ?

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Corruption is everywhere and football is not exempted from this activity. I also heard some that you will have to bend to their will by doing same sex with some of the officials, this could be made up and is also possible because you can only defend what you know. Hence, more of the reasons why you see good player hanging around area looking for another alternative and will be in their local league and you wonder what's happening, why are they not signing this good players.

Mbape was only a fraction because he is success, there are more of these victims but they cannot open up while some are scared. I'm very sure that if it were after winning the World Cup in 2018 and ask if they will allow him play with Cameroon team, they will receive him with an open arms but France loved him and take him in with open arms and today instead of them be celebrating the World Cup winner, they are running after his vehicle still looking for the same money to dash them.

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"At first, I wanted my son to play for Cameroon, but someone at the Cameroonian Football Federation charged me money that I didn't have to make him play," he explained. " The French charged nothing."

This disappointment was a disguised blessing. Had Kylian played for Cameroonian Football National Team, he would have achieved even upto 40% of what he achieved at his present age. The god of soccer wanted us to witness a raw talent, that was why that happened.
I am glad it happened but I am not sure Cameroonians are. But a true lover of football in Cameroon should also be.

Bribing among football players is widespread in Africa, where national football federations have a vested interest in the significant earnings of their compatriots playing in Europe. Given the numerous revelations in the past, it is not surprising that such occurrences continue to happen. The fundamental issue lies in how the country's leadership responds to such news.

Nature embedded so many talents in Africa but they mismanaged it. Starting from mineral resources to human resources. Have you taken a clear examination of the French National Team to discover how many Africans are there.
Across the internet you can only hear news of bribery and corruption to a stage you will feel they need recolonization according to Trump.

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This is not with football, we were able to see this with every sports. Most of the time during the time of selection players were demanded with money. This is the reality, one who is able to pay succeed playing for the country while the one who isn't able to do ends his passion for the sports or end up moving towards something else.

This doesn't happen with everyone. Apart from this there are racial discrimination. Lot many many things have changed and lot needs to change. Many able players could've missed opportunities due to the money. Very few like Mbappe will have the thought to run and find his opportunity. Not everyone does it, and that's what made him successful.

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July 10, 2023, 01:11:39 AM
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I have also heard of some local stories about how some coaches require money from new footballers before they allow them on trier both in their clubs and national teams. Is this happening globally for new players who are still seeking to find a spot in clubs?
This kind of corruption always exists in a developing country, I am not surprised to hear this because I ever heard also in my country. The government must fix it immediately if they want their talented player appears on the football stage. Not only coach that need to attention, but all official football also, because if the official have one a bad person, another one will definitely follow in his footsteps, then so as to destroy the whole of team. So I think, instead of spending the money to hall Mbappe in Cameroon, better to give it for the development of their football.

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July 10, 2023, 01:38:44 AM
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Hey guys, reading little story on Kylian Mbappe who on Thursday visited Cameroon on a charity with the deaf and other familiarization visit to his father's home town. He spoke with Joseph Dion Ngute, the Cameroon's Prime Minister, he was honoured visiting and I believe this is just like the humanitarian work some influential people do

But one striking revelation was that he would have been a cameroonian player if they weren't asking his father to pay them money before allowing him to play while he still trying to fix his career and French allowed him without payment.

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"At first, I wanted my son to play for Cameroon, but someone at the Cameroonian Football Federation charged me money that I didn't have to make him play," he explained. " The French charged nothing."

I have also heard of some local stories about how some coaches require money from new footballers before they allow them on trier both in their clubs and national teams. Is this happening globally for new players who are still seeking to find a spot in clubs?

Do you think Cameroun miss Mbappe or it is Mbappe that missed Cameroun ?

https://theafricanhistory.com/2975#:~:text=My%20father
This is not rare at all and while it did not happen to me this happened to a friend of mine, he was really good at soccer back in our younger days and I really thought he had what it was needed to become a pro at some point, however when I asked him if he had any chance to go pro he told me he was asked for a huge sum of money in order to get the chance he needed, and since he did not had it then he never got a chance.

So it does not surprise me to read this has happened to many other people, what is surprising is that it happened to one of the players which could be considered to be the very best at the moment.
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July 10, 2023, 03:19:50 AM
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That reminds me with age fraud. This allegation was also going for cameroon football association.
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No doubt if mbappe is playing for france instead of cameroon where his farther was born. Im glad to see that someone who tried to charge mbappe's father was pushing mbappe to play for france instead of cameroon.
So many scandals happened with fecafoot. This is an usual thing when corruption is ruining everything including people's dream.

Corruption in cameroonian football was not something new.

Back a decade ago FIFA has ever suspended this country due to the bad governance and corruption.

https://www.africanliberty.org/2013/07/11/bad-governance-and-corruption-in-the-cameroon-football-federation-fecafoot-leads-to-suspension-by-the-worlds-football-federation-fifa-chofor-che/

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July 10, 2023, 07:41:37 AM
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Bribing among football players is widespread in Africa, where national football federations have a vested interest in the significant earnings of their compatriots playing in Europe. Given the numerous revelations in the past, it is not surprising that such occurrences continue to happen. The fundamental issue lies in how the country's leadership responds to such news.
Bribing has been the order of the day in football, especially in African sport.No major player would want to play for African teams since their wages and football facilities are not up to European standards. When looking at the France national squad, the number of black players outnumbers the proportion of white players. Cameron overlooked their own product, Kylian Mbappe, who is now a standout in Europe and the France national team. Although Cameron are facing the mistakes of their past, and they've learnt their lesson never to underestimate any player.

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July 10, 2023, 07:59:33 AM
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Corruption in cameroonian football was not something new.

Back a decade ago FIFA has ever suspended this country due to the bad governance and corruption.
In the football sports industry there is a very large circulation of money so that it is used by some people to make wealth easily but this actually damages the development of football in the country itself.
Maybe related parties with more authority have tried to always supervise so that there are no acts of corruption, but considering that there are lots of people at the grassroots level who can easily play money with embezzlement or corruption.

Even though FIFA has suspended the country but if there is no awareness from the leaders of the football association there then it will only be in vain.

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July 10, 2023, 10:17:40 AM
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He miss the country and the country also miss him. If he those not miss the country he wouldn't have visited the country, but the country really lost a very great talented player, the government should arrest the coach that was asking for money and he should be punished so that things like this wont happen in future again. coaches are suppose to build the team with the most talented players, and they shouldn't build the team due to the players that can pay them.

I think coming to Cameroon is to show support for the father's country to help do some charity work there, I don't think he regretted not playing for Cameroon but only explained why he didn't. Mbappe should be happy with himself I believe because even if he had parted with such money at that time, he may need to pay more at a certain stage if he wants to play in a bigger tournament for Cameroon. Moreover, it shows that the FA is not fair with their players and their judgement may have affected him in higher tournament selection but France didn't collect money from him and gave him the better rope to climb into stardom


the government should arrest the coach that was asking for money and he should be punished so that things like this wont happen in future again


A corrupt system doesn't go after offenders because they are all birds of same feathers. Even if they do out of pressure, the offender will bribe their way out. Corruption shows the rot going on in a system.

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July 10, 2023, 10:51:24 AM
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But one striking revelation was that he would have been a cameroonian player if they weren't asking his father to pay them money before allowing him to play while he still trying to fix his career and French allowed him without payment.


It is not surprising that usually officials in football "request" fees from the families of children before they can be educated at the academy. That's why usually the kids at the football academy are rich kids, only a few kids come from poor families. But usually this only happens in developing countries, where corruption cases are quite high.

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July 10, 2023, 11:09:20 AM
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It's definitely Cameroon's loss and not Mbappe's. This is what corruption brings to a country or a sports league or any organization for that matter. Instead of reaching its full potential, it will fail because they are not actually looking for the best athletes they could get. They are probably just screening athletes according to payment. You pay, you play. You don't, you can't. It's just lucky for Mbappe that France was there ready to take on young athletes with pure skill, and all for free.
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July 10, 2023, 11:17:07 AM
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I think there are people like that everywhere who have to pay bribes to be able to play for a club or national team, but not all countries are like that maybe the football federation in Cameroon will regret after seeing Mbappe play for France, whereas we know that if Mbappe plays for the Cameroon national team, of course it will be very good to be able to bring the Cameroon national team to play well in the World Cup.

Unfortunately maybe there are management regulations or there are people who really damage the image like that, I'm not a Cameroonian but if that's the case maybe the Cameroonian team will really miss and Mbappe already has a proper place in France because there he feels valued compared to Cameroon.  Cheesy

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July 10, 2023, 11:42:17 AM
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This can happen if the team does not have a strong sponsor who can fund all the activities and training of the players on the team.
Corruption knows no bounds. It is just a selfish interest and self aggrandizement, nothing of such will be an excuse. Corruption takes any form whether sponsor or not. The case of Cameroon as reviewed by Mbappe's interview is sufficient. The national team of Cameroon won't lack such sponsor I believe because the government will provide all that was needed but few top officials will divert it into personal purse.
Well, maybe anything can happen, but from the Mbappe case, the government can suspect him and investigate why something like this could have happened. Even though these schools could have provided it for free, they could produce new seeds of players with more potential to win. Later the results will also be returned to the country because they achieved good sports achievements. But indeed, it could also be due to corruption that may have been going on for a long time, so the government had difficulty finding it.

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July 10, 2023, 11:45:35 AM
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I think there are people like that everywhere who have to pay bribes to be able to play for a club or national team, but not all countries are like that maybe the football federation in Cameroon will regret after seeing Mbappe play for France, whereas we know that if Mbappe plays for the Cameroon national team, of course it will be very good to be able to bring the Cameroon national team to play well in the World Cup.

Unfortunately maybe there are management regulations or there are people who really damage the image like that, I'm not a Cameroonian but if that's the case maybe the Cameroonian team will really miss and Mbappe already has a proper place in France because there he feels valued compared to Cameroon.  Cheesy

I wouldn't generalize such case like that. That is true, some of them are ruining the image of a certain team.
But it is happening around the globe, not only for Cameroon but even for small teams.
I guess, bribery is one of the negative aspect in every business, not only in sports but all the other businesses out there.
There will be no bribery if the official won't accept bribes. But unfortunately, some are accepting such bribe because of greed.
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July 10, 2023, 12:30:39 PM
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I guess this collection of bribe before allowing a new player to showcase his talent for his country is always practice in Africa because Africa is so corrupt in everything that they do. A quality player will want to be part of his national team to bring victory for his country,instead the coach of will demand for money because he is not a good coach and he is after money and not for the betterment of his team. I wouldn't doubt this story,it is only the European countries and most countries that loves football that opens the door for all players to come in to showcase their talent for their country.
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I guess this collection of bribe before allowing a new player to showcase his talent for his country is always practice in Africa because Africa is so corrupt in everything that they do. A quality player will want to be part of his national team to bring victory for his country,instead the coach of will demand for money because he is not a good coach and he is after money and not for the betterment of his team. I wouldn't doubt this story,it is only the European countries and most countries that loves football that opens the door for all players to come in to showcase their talent for their country.

This kind of practice is very unfortunate. I mean, given the circumstances surrounding Africa, no wonder that majority of the system aim to take advantage of the situation in order to gain more in the process. These kinds of bribes destroy the reputation of football due to these corrupt practices. I just hope that the government would intervene in order to prevent this from happening again.

I remember in the Philippines, there was a basketball game which was televised and hosted but the teams were bribed as they fixed the match. It was subsequently investigated but I do think that only a few were held liable and accountable. I guess that these kinds of practices do happen especially when you are tough financially, though such is not an excuse.

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Hey guys, reading little story on Kylian Mbappe who on Thursday visited Cameroon on a charity with the deaf and other familiarization visit to his father's home town. He spoke with Joseph Dion Ngute, the Cameroon's Prime Minister, he was honoured visiting and I believe this is just like the humanitarian work some influential people do

But one striking revelation was that he would have been a cameroonian player if they weren't asking his father to pay them money before allowing him to play while he still trying to fix his career and French allowed him without payment.

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"At first, I wanted my son to play for Cameroon, but someone at the Cameroonian Football Federation charged me money that I didn't have to make him play," he explained. " The French charged nothing."

I have also heard of some local stories about how some coaches require money from new footballers before they allow them on trier both in their clubs and national teams. Is this happening globally for new players who are still seeking to find a spot in clubs?

Do you think Cameroun miss Mbappe or it is Mbappe that missed Cameroun ?

https://theafricanhistory.com/2975#:~:text=My%20father

That is how you lose on a great player like Mbappe when you are a corrupted country like Cameroon and many other African countries lose such star players exactly because of the same reason.Also in many other third countries in the world the same is happening and I think these type of interviews should have much wider visibility so those people who asked for money would be seeing how big these players become and stop doing it.I know that it is much more difficult to achieve because we are talking about poor countries but these poor countries should start to think bigger for themselves.It would be nice to see such a player playing for Cameroon,not that I don't like seeing him play with France.

It's saddening that a team just lost a good additional player on their side just because of money. But actually, this isn't really a new thing. Corruption can happen even in sports. As a matter of fact, it can happen in any industry as long as there are existing people who are just in it for the money. For me, it's Cameroun's loss and not Mbappe since the latter can potentially make a significant impact to the performance and record of the team if he were accepted without anything in return.

Let's just hope that this kind of routine will be put into halt because it's such a waste to lose great talent and skills just because someone wants to trade it for money and not really care about what will be its benefits to the country's pride and improvement in sports.
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There will be no bribery if the official won't accept bribes. But unfortunately, some are accepting such bribe because of greed.

The giver and taker of bribe is guilty of the offence. I think the laws should be implemented because that it is people will fear. When laws are implemented to the full, people's greed will reduce because when you remember how many years that you will stay in jail then to commit the crime will be discouraged. I believe every person has the greed tendency but either fear of shame when caught depending or the family background (that is ability to have self control) or the fear of punishment that will scare people from such.

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July 10, 2023, 04:52:49 PM
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Hey guys, reading little story on Kylian Mbappe who on Thursday visited Cameroon on a charity with the deaf and other familiarization visit to his father's home town. He spoke with Joseph Dion Ngute, the Cameroon's Prime Minister, he was honoured visiting and I believe this is just like the humanitarian work some influential people do

But one striking revelation was that he would have been a cameroonian player if they weren't asking his father to pay them money before allowing him to play while he still trying to fix his career and French allowed him without payment.

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"At first, I wanted my son to play for Cameroon, but someone at the Cameroonian Football Federation charged me money that I didn't have to make him play," he explained. " The French charged nothing."

I have also heard of some local stories about how some coaches require money from new footballers before they allow them on trier both in their clubs and national teams. Is this happening globally for new players who are still seeking to find a spot in clubs?

Do you think Cameroun miss Mbappe or it is Mbappe that missed Cameroun ?

https://theafricanhistory.com/2975#:~:text=My%20father

That is how you lose on a great player like Mbappe when you are a corrupted country like Cameroon and many other African countries lose such star players exactly because of the same reason.Also in many other third countries in the world the same is happening and I think these type of interviews should have much wider visibility so those people who asked for money would be seeing how big these players become and stop doing it.I know that it is much more difficult to achieve because we are talking about poor countries but these poor countries should start to think bigger for themselves.It would be nice to see such a player playing for Cameroon,not that I don't like seeing him play with France.

It's saddening that a team just lost a good additional player on their side just because of money. But actually, this isn't really a new thing. Corruption can happen even in sports. As a matter of fact, it can happen in any industry as long as there are existing people who are just in it for the money. For me, it's Cameroun's loss and not Mbappe since the latter can potentially make a significant impact to the performance and record of the team if he were accepted without anything in return.

Let's just hope that this kind of routine will be put into halt because it's such a waste to lose great talent and skills just because someone wants to trade it for money and not really care about what will be its benefits to the country's pride and improvement in sports.

Happens all the time I think. You see there are foreign athletes giving honor to countries where they reside because their own country didn't support them. Take for instance a pro boxer from Mexico yet fights for Cali. Or a Nigerian fighter fighting out of Denver. 

Its a waste however Kylian Mbappe becomes famous and have more influence in other country. Opportunity is deprived to the Cameroon by the Cameroonian Football Federation itself.


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July 10, 2023, 05:24:38 PM
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There will be no bribery if the official won't accept bribes. But unfortunately, some are accepting such bribe because of greed.

The giver and taker of bribe is guilty of the offence. I think the laws should be implemented because that it is people will fear. When laws are implemented to the full, people's greed will reduce because when you remember how many years that you will stay in jail then to commit the crime will be discouraged. I believe every person has the greed tendency but either fear of shame when caught depending or the family background (that is ability to have self control) or the fear of punishment that will scare people from such.
This should need a fast action, they need to take this as serious case, it is need to have an integrity in every sports if they will allow this one many new cases will start to show and it will become normalized , this is a bad thing. Bribery is a crime , they could be put in a jail or they will need to pay for fine but for me they should immediately kick or terminated the contract of the player or the whole team if they have complete proof.
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I thought maybe some fake representative is trying to scam them but doesn't seem to be the case. I cannot find any article where officials from the Cameroon Football Federation denying the allegations so it's probably true.
Cameroonian football officials will never accept that they asked for a bribe. It is not also a scam because it is common in Africa. Most of these sports administrators are so corrupt that they don't care about talent because they are there for their pockets. Even coaches ask for bribes before some players can play for the national team. Anthony Joshua the British heavyweight champion boxer was to represent Nigeria in the Olympics but the corrupt officials asked for some form of monetary inducement which refused to give. He went ahead to represent England and today he is bringing glory to his adopted country while Nigeria is wallowing in regrets.

Ironically, Cameroon national team lost one of the best players in the world because a greedy and corrupt agent (or a group of them) had a bribery scheme to recruit new players. Imagine how further they could reach on World Cups if they had Mbappé on the team, profiting much more and getting much more recognization than what they would have earned with the bribery... Corrupt people think they are smart, but they can only see things on short term. What really matters is what happens on long term, and that is something only God knows and sees. So better to walk straightest as possible in life, never creating obstacles for our fellow beings, rather trying to help them as possible.
He was even lucky to choose France because the same corruption is still killing the Cameroonian national team. When funds are disturbed for preparation and wages, some greedy officials will divert the money to private pockets. He wouldn't have achieved much if he had played for Cameroon. France gave him the right platform and enabling environment to succeed. This is why many African players prefer playing for well-organized national teams in Europe and America rather than playing for corruption-ridden African national teams.

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July 10, 2023, 05:43:03 PM
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Lol, This is nice. What you have asked , happens predominantly in African countries which is very corrupt to the core. And this is not the first time I have heard this kind of stories. They are so many talented footballers in Africa but their own countries refused them to play in the national teams because of bribery. In Nigeria rich people recommend their relatives to play in the national team while the skillful poor players play with monkey post games.  Mbappe did not miss Cameroon national football team but the fans of Mbappe in Cameroon miss him in the Country National Football Team. Those who were trying to collect bribe from the father did not miss him at all because theirs is not the skills but the money. In Africa we have loss a lot skillful players to the European countries.

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July 10, 2023, 06:33:05 PM
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Those who were trying to collect bribe from the father did not miss him at all because theirs is not the skills but the money.

They won't be sorry for their action because for them, it is not to select those who have passion for the game but those who are willing to bribe their way into the team. Those FA members who do this perhaps have been trading football spots to others and they will keep doing that till that. This is why some players get rejected for being over aged. Just recently, it is in the news that Samuel Eto (Cameroonian FA president) Mirror is requesting the proper age for his players and 21 out of 30 players were found to be overaged

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This issue frequently occurs especially for African players. Africa has a lot of exceptional players who possess impressive physical abilities, and with proper training they have the potential to become stars. However, the problem lies in the fact that many African countries struggle to retain their players. This may be due to financial constraints or a lack of attention towards their talented players who are playing abroad.

It is truly sad that some African countries are unable to reclaim their star players. Like for example in France, we can observe a huge presence of African players in club teams, as well as in the national team.
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Bribing among football players is widespread in Africa, where national football federations have a vested interest in the significant earnings of their compatriots playing in Europe. Given the numerous revelations in the past, it is not surprising that such occurrences continue to happen. The fundamental issue lies in how the country's leadership responds to such news.
Bribing has been the order of the day in football, especially in African sport.No major player would want to play for African teams since their wages and football facilities are not up to European standards. When looking at the France national squad, the number of black players outnumbers the proportion of white players. Cameron overlooked their own product, Kylian Mbappe, who is now a standout in Europe and the France national team. Although Cameron are facing the mistakes of their past, and they've learnt their lesson never to underestimate any player.
While we acknowledge the difficult situation faced by football associations in African countries, it is noticeable that many African players of French descent do not represent the African national teams. Mbappe's recent statement about potentially playing for Africa could be attributed to Osimhen, who has been in the media spotlight for a similar reason. Osimhen, like many other Nigerian players, has a strong connection and heritage in his home country.

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I don't really know how this system  works but the truth is that the statement  from my mppabes father seems true and I've always know some parts of Africa to always prioritize bribing in almost everything  they do even to their educational sector hence this isn't no news to me because I'm not actually shocked if they must have asked  his father to pay for letting him play and i guess he wasn't know as at then and that's one of the things tbatvhave milled alot of great potentials as they might not have the required money and finance to sponsor  their talents.


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I think this is mainly about corrupt people at football federations. This can't exactly be about all federations or all players. I suppose this sounds like a gamble for player's family because if he doesn't become better they would be wasting money. Anyways its obviously huge loss for nations if their officers do it. This is obvious bribery and bribery would make undeserving people getting shirt meanwhile good ones missing it.
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Hey guys, reading little story on Kylian Mbappe who on Thursday visited Cameroon on a charity with the deaf and other familiarization visit to his father's home town. He spoke with Joseph Dion Ngute, the Cameroon's Prime Minister, he was honoured visiting and I believe this is just like the humanitarian work some influential people do

But one striking revelation was that he would have been a cameroonian player if they weren't asking his father to pay them money before allowing him to play while he still trying to fix his career and French allowed him without payment.

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"At first, I wanted my son to play for Cameroon, but someone at the Cameroonian Football Federation charged me money that I didn't have to make him play," he explained. " The French charged nothing."

I have also heard of some local stories about how some coaches require money from new footballers before they allow them on trier both in their clubs and national teams. Is this happening globally for new players who are still seeking to find a spot in clubs?

Do you think Cameroun miss Mbappe or it is Mbappe that missed Cameroun ?

https://theafricanhistory.com/2975#:~:text=My%20father
That is how you lose on a great player like Mbappe when you are a corrupted country like Cameroon and many other African countries lose such star players exactly because of the same reason.Also in many other third countries in the world the same is happening and I think these type of interviews should have much wider visibility so those people who asked for money would be seeing how big these players become and stop doing it.I know that it is much more difficult to achieve because we are talking about poor countries but these poor countries should start to think bigger for themselves.It would be nice to see such a player playing for Cameroon,not that I don't like seeing him play with France.
What actually makes you think that the guy at the Cameroon Football Federation who asked Mbappe's father for money so that his son be able to play for the team wouldn't do it with someone else after learning about this? He probably doesn't give a shit about what has happened because he gets money from people so that they can play and personal gain is probably what he wants because if he really cared for his country, he wouldn't be doing that at all in the first place.

So, even if he rejects 10 footballers because they don't pay and all of them become successful after joining national teams of other countries, he wouldn't care much as his pocket is getting filled anyhow which is the basic purpose of him being a member of the respected football federation of the country.

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July 11, 2023, 11:29:59 AM
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I don't really know how this system  works but the truth is that the statement  from my mppabes father seems true and I've always know some parts of Africa to always prioritize bribing in almost everything  they do even to their educational sector hence this isn't no news to me because I'm not actually shocked if they must have asked  his father to pay for letting him play and i guess he wasn't know as at then and that's one of the things tbatvhave milled alot of great potentials as they might not have the required money and finance to sponsor  their talents.



Don't about such cases exist but if this activities really happen on your country then there's should be a player expose this so that this illegal actions may stop. Its easy to make this case viral and for sure those people involve on such corruptions will get fired if there top management know about their illegalities done to their team. To bad for players who can't pay their bribe because they can't play and show their full potential because of actions made by those corrupt people.

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July 11, 2023, 04:46:00 PM
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This is not rare at all and while it did not happen to me this happened to a friend of mine, he was really good at soccer back in our younger days and I really thought he had what it was needed to become a pro at some point, however when I asked him if he had any chance to go pro he told me he was asked for a huge sum of money in order to get the chance he needed, and since he did not had it then he never got a chance.

So it does not surprise me to read this has happened to many other people, what is surprising is that it happened to one of the players which could be considered to be the very best at the moment.
Even if let say your friend has that huge sum, I think there is still no guarantees that his career will last long and we are not sure if he will make it to the real pro scene as it looks like the club he was applying at is only just a scam. A legit club won't ever ask for money but they will only hire the players once they saw a potential from them and they still can make money once the team starts to play on higher tiers.

The pro players that are now known do also start small and there are also clubs which offer them that kind of deal so it wasn't shocking at all. They only ignore it and move on to the other legit clubs to successfully pursue their career.
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Hey guys, reading little story on Kylian Mbappe who on Thursday visited Cameroon on a charity with the deaf and other familiarization visit to his father's home town. He spoke with Joseph Dion Ngute, the Cameroon's Prime Minister, he was honoured visiting and I believe this is just like the humanitarian work some influential people do

But one striking revelation was that he would have been a cameroonian player if they weren't asking his father to pay them money before allowing him to play while he still trying to fix his career and French allowed him without payment.

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"At first, I wanted my son to play for Cameroon, but someone at the Cameroonian Football Federation charged me money that I didn't have to make him play," he explained. " The French charged nothing."

I have also heard of some local stories about how some coaches require money from new footballers before they allow them on trier both in their clubs and national teams. Is this happening globally for new players who are still seeking to find a spot in clubs?

Do you think Cameroun miss Mbappe or it is Mbappe that missed Cameroun ?

https://theafricanhistory.com/2975#:~:text=My%20father
That is how you lose on a great player like Mbappe when you are a corrupted country like Cameroon and many other African countries lose such star players exactly because of the same reason.Also in many other third countries in the world the same is happening and I think these type of interviews should have much wider visibility so those people who asked for money would be seeing how big these players become and stop doing it.I know that it is much more difficult to achieve because we are talking about poor countries but these poor countries should start to think bigger for themselves.It would be nice to see such a player playing for Cameroon,not that I don't like seeing him play with France.
What actually makes you think that the guy at the Cameroon Football Federation who asked Mbappe's father for money so that his son be able to play for the team wouldn't do it with someone else after learning about this? He probably doesn't give a shit about what has happened because he gets money from people so that they can play and personal gain is probably what he wants because if he really cared for his country, he wouldn't be doing that at all in the first place.

So, even if he rejects 10 footballers because they don't pay and all of them become successful after joining national teams of other countries, he wouldn't care much as his pocket is getting filled anyhow which is the basic purpose of him being a member of the respected football federation of the country.
But this shouldn't be so and the coach should be sacked immediately because he doesn't want the success of his country that is paying him well for him to do a good job but inside he is enriching himself and putting the country's national team in a low standard form. How will that coach bring out the best in these players when he doesn't know who is good or not. If this story is true,do you know how much Mbappe would have given to him currently that he is a superstar, far bigger than what he requested then.
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That is how you lose on a great player like Mbappe when you are a corrupted country like Cameroon and many other African countries lose such star players exactly because of the same reason.Also in many other third countries in the world the same is happening and I think these type of interviews should have much wider visibility so those people who asked for money would be seeing how big these players become and stop doing it.I know that it is much more difficult to achieve because we are talking about poor countries but these poor countries should start to think bigger for themselves.It would be nice to see such a player playing for Cameroon,not that I don't like seeing him play with France.

Yeah this type of stories happen in third world countries and they lose valuable players who want to give all to the club or national team. The thread is bad. When you place money first in whatever you want to do then the best will elude you. This is appalling and the reason that third world countries struggle in football especially countries from Africa.

Those at the tops only care about their own immediate financial benefit and not care where the player gets to tomorrow with the myopic thinking that they have benefited from the player. I will still blame the government when it comes to corruption.
Simply put, they are not looking at the future profits of a player, those corrupted shitbags are just looking to be paid instantly and then they are gone looking for another victim. Although I am not sure if the father of Mbappe is telling the truth or if he was a victim of just another scammer in the shadows and not really part of their sports federation, this really happens in different countries especially the poor ones where crocodiles are waiting on the door with an open mouth looking for their next food for the day.

This is the reason why sports are not blooming in other countries, they don't have many heroes that can play internationally because of the lack of support from their government and also those kinds of experiences where there is already a wall before you could even go near the door to join a club.

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Yeah this type of stories happen in third world countries and they lose valuable players who want to give all to the club or national team. The thread is bad. When you place money first in whatever you want to do then the best will elude you. This is appalling and the reason that third world countries struggle in football especially countries from Africa.

Those at the tops only care about their own immediate financial benefit and not care where the player gets to tomorrow with the myopic thinking that they have benefited from the player. I will still blame the government when it comes to corruption.

Man, there are so many African countries where football is the main sport, imagine what could happen to them if football there was more honest.

See what Morocco did in Qatar. Was that luck? No!
That was talent and a lot of will to win.
If they had more preparation, if the country invested more in football, they could certainly have excelled in football earlier.

South Africa is another country that has football as its main sport, why don't we see it stand out?

Corruption in sports ends the dream of many players, this is unfortunate, but it is good to see that people are noticing this. Maybe it starts to change.

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Corruption in sports ends the dream of many players, this is unfortunate, but it is good to see that people are noticing this. Maybe it starts to change.

Voices are consistently increasing for the right thing to be done in Africa for sanity to be the driving force in anything that is worth doing. If the government will take away corruption away you will see more football talents shining like stars. Africa is very rich in gifted resources both human but to bring all in good purpose is the challenge. Cameroon has called herself out but almost all countries in Africa are in involved in this bribe mess.

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July 12, 2023, 01:51:46 PM
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Corruption in sports ends the dream of many players, this is unfortunate, but it is good to see that people are noticing this. Maybe it starts to change.

That's true some of the best players and fighters are not getting the break that they need because of corruption, here in our country our athletes are improving because thanks to social media they can voice their complaints and their supporters will know it and they will demand explanations from these officials.
Athletes should be allowed to develop with the help of their government because, in the first place, their athletes are the ones that will represent them in international competition, so they have to send the best that they can produce.

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The Cameroonian Football Federation needed to investigate cases of bribery committed by persons serving at the Cameroonian Football Federation at that time, as a result of the despicable acts committed by certain persons, Cameroon lost one of the world's best players. Obviously, Cameroon misses Mbappe, Mbappe doesn't miss Cameroon. Mbappe has got everything with the French national team, he is also the most influential player in the Les Bleus squad.
Cases of bribery committed by some individuals in football have hindered the development of other players due to not being able to give a certain amount of money to coaches or other parties. Indirectly, they have killed the development of football in their country.

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July 12, 2023, 02:19:39 PM
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Hey guys, reading little story on Kylian Mbappe who on Thursday visited Cameroon on a charity with the deaf and other familiarization visit to his father's home town. He spoke with Joseph Dion Ngute, the Cameroon's Prime Minister, he was honoured visiting and I believe this is just like the humanitarian work some influential people do
Money is always the basis for why something can be manipulated and corruption occurs. I don't really understand the condition of African football and especially Cameroon, but this country always gives birth to someone who is able to penetrate the boundaries of European football. Kylian Mbappe is an important player in the French national team and Cameroon made a bad decision if this is true as the rumors are, because they have to lose a great player who can make their country heard around the world.

Do you think Cameroun miss Mbappe or it is Mbappe that missed Cameroun ?
It's just a charity effort that Kylian Mbappe is trying to run in his father's homeland and I don't think too far about what issues he is trying to relate to, even though it could be true or not? His father has a long history with his homeland and surely Kylian Mbappe will try to make something more memorable for his parents.

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July 12, 2023, 03:02:46 PM
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Do you think Cameroun miss Mbappe or it is Mbappe that missed Cameroun ?
Both No.....! Mbappe is fed up with the behavior of the top officials of the Cameroon national team, he does not miss and wants to play in Cameroon, he sees Cameroon as the country of his birth and his parents, nothing more.

The problem that happened to Mbappe with the Cameroonian coach yesterday has been circulating outside, so Mbappe's father made the decision to play in the French National team, there are reasons for this to happen.

The answer to that has already been answered by @Malusi MKwebu, elsewhere.
This is the rationale for the OP's answer, in my opinion, quite apt.


Kylian Mbappe is considered the future of football. His father wanted him to play for Cameroon, but was asked to pay a MASSIVE fee to play for his country. So he went with France instead. What does that tell you about African football?]
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Thanks for such a great and intelligent question, this incident that happened greatly shows you how corrupt is African football, how fractured and disorganized is my beloved continent Africa,and I remember reading an Africa report magazine in 2010/2011 .El Hadji Diouf slammed the African football officials and said that African football officials want money from football but they don't love football.

This goes to show you how unserious are we with the game of football as Africans, we love money from football ,not football, this also goes to show you how far we are as a continent if we are to ever reach the level of Europeans, if we are to be developed in the game as Europeans we need to eliminate all those kind of officials with bribery behavior.

This also goes to show you how poor are African football federations, how kleptomaniac and also how nepotistic is the African football system, they just appoint people to work in the football without even proper credentials.

So in conclusion for me losing players like Kyllian Mbappe is not a good thing in African football, Cameroon lost a world cup and the truth is Africa we are still far away ,to reach the level of other developed footballing governing bodies that are in Europe and South America.

Cameroon national team bosses don't consider and look at Mbappe, he has it all.
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1. Mbappe is the second most expensive player in history.
2. Mbappe donated various championship titles.
3. Mbappe excelled in the World Cup.
4. Set records since he was a teenager.
5. Mbappe is super fast
6. An unpretentious world football star.

What did the top officials of the Cameroon National Team do? In my opinion it was stupid and greedy, he didn't consider it for the future. In fact, if Mbappe plays in Cameroon, they can make trillions of dollars, they prefer to be corrupt.

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July 12, 2023, 03:21:52 PM
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I have also heard of some local stories about how some coaches require money from new footballers before they allow them on trier both in their clubs and national teams. Is this happening globally for new players who are still seeking to find a spot in clubs?
Sadly this is the story of many African based footballers who wished to play for their home country but corruption, nepotism and other cancers that have engulfed the football federation drives them away to play for the country they are resident in. And that was the best decision they made. Lately, the news  of Oderah Chidom a Nigerian female basketballer dumping the national team filled the air because of lack of professionalism, Saka is another player as well. African and their sporting federation needs to do better and they still have a vey long way to go.

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July 12, 2023, 03:43:04 PM
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Hey guys, reading little story on Kylian Mbappe who on Thursday visited Cameroon on a charity with the deaf and other familiarization visit to his father's home town. He spoke with Joseph Dion Ngute, the Cameroon's Prime Minister, he was honoured visiting and I believe this is just like the humanitarian work some influential people do

But one striking revelation was that he would have been a cameroonian player if they weren't asking his father to pay them money before allowing him to play while he still trying to fix his career and French allowed him without payment.

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"At first, I wanted my son to play for Cameroon, but someone at the Cameroonian Football Federation charged me money that I didn't have to make him play," he explained. " The French charged nothing."

I have also heard of some local stories about how some coaches require money from new footballers before they allow them on trier both in their clubs and national teams. Is this happening globally for new players who are still seeking to find a spot in clubs?

Do you think Cameroun miss Mbappe or it is Mbappe that missed Cameroun ?

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Cases of bribery committed by some individuals in football have hindered the development of other players due to not being able to give a certain amount of money to coaches or other parties. Indirectly, they have killed the development of football in their country.
These individuals occupying power positions on their countries aren't concerned about the development of their countries, because they put their personal financial and social interests in front of everything else. In theory, they are on such spots to do the best thinking on their countries, however, they don't have any pinch of patriotism, nationalism or empathy running through their veins, so in practice they just try taking advantage of every disponible opportunties to grow their pockets.

Thankfully, players like Mbappé don't lose anything with this, since they can find much superior opportunities and recognization in foreigner countries.

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July 12, 2023, 04:29:02 PM
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I thought maybe some fake representative is trying to scam them but doesn't seem to be the case. I cannot find any article where officials from the Cameroon Football Federation denying the allegations so it's probably true.
Cameroonian football officials will never accept that they asked for a bribe. It is not also a scam because it is common in Africa. Most of these sports administrators are so corrupt that they don't care about talent because they are there for their pockets. Even coaches ask for bribes before some players can play for the national team. Anthony Joshua the British heavyweight champion boxer was to represent Nigeria in the Olympics but the corrupt officials asked for some form of monetary inducement which refused to give. He went ahead to represent England and today he is bringing glory to his adopted country while Nigeria is wallowing in regrets.

Ironically, Cameroon national team lost one of the best players in the world because a greedy and corrupt agent (or a group of them) had a bribery scheme to recruit new players. Imagine how further they could reach on World Cups if they had Mbappé on the team, profiting much more and getting much more recognization than what they would have earned with the bribery... Corrupt people think they are smart, but they can only see things on short term. What really matters is what happens on long term, and that is something only God knows and sees. So better to walk straightest as possible in life, never creating obstacles for our fellow beings, rather trying to help them as possible.
He was even lucky to choose France because the same corruption is still killing the Cameroonian national team. When funds are disturbed for preparation and wages, some greedy officials will divert the money to private pockets. He wouldn't have achieved much if he had played for Cameroon. France gave him the right platform and enabling environment to succeed. This is why many African players prefer playing for well-organized national teams in Europe and America rather than playing for corruption-ridden African national teams.

Cameroonian team are the ones who missed Mbappe.
Think of it, no one would have heard his name had he adopted Cameroon as national team. Am sure even PSG wouldn't have hesitated to sell him compared to how they are on his neck currently to extend his contract and play the next matches.

This corruption is one that has eaten deep into almost all facets of sports in various African countries. Most times too, it is players decision as to the best place to settle. It is what led Asafa Powell to run for Jamaica,  Dele Alli to play for England, Emmanuel Adebayor to play for Togo,  Gabriel Agbonlahor to play for England.
So many players exist that had to play for other nationality for good reasons besides bribe. While it is true that bribe may have led Mbappe to play for France, let's not forget that he had spent his early career days in France and would have had to still face serious competition for team place in an African side with less prospect of world cup dominance.
Let's forget the story of the bribe, it just isn't like he made a wrong decision not to pay the bribe, but a more deliberate effort to maintain a promising career.

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Ironically, Cameroon national team lost one of the best players in the world because a greedy and corrupt agent (or a group of them) had a bribery scheme to recruit new players. Imagine how further they could reach on World Cups if they had Mbappé on the team, profiting much more and getting much more recognization than what they would have earned with the bribery... Corrupt people think they are smart, but they can only see things on short term. What really matters is what happens on long term, and that is something only God knows and sees. So better to walk straightest as possible in life, never creating obstacles for our fellow beings, rather trying to help them as possible.
He was even lucky to choose France because the same corruption is still killing the Cameroonian national team. When funds are disturbed for preparation and wages, some greedy officials will divert the money to private pockets. He wouldn't have achieved much if he had played for Cameroon. France gave him the right platform and enabling environment to succeed. This is why many African players prefer playing for well-organized national teams in Europe and America rather than playing for corruption-ridden African national teams.

Cameroonian team are the ones who missed Mbappe.
Think of it, no one would have heard his name had he adopted Cameroon as national team. Am sure even PSG wouldn't have hesitated to sell him compared to how they are on his neck currently to extend his contract and play the next matches.

This corruption is one that has eaten deep into almost all facets of sports in various African countries. Most times too, it is players decision as to the best place to settle. It is what led Asafa Powell to run for Jamaica,  Dele Alli to play for England, Emmanuel Adebayor to play for Togo,  Gabriel Agbonlahor to play for England.
So many players exist that had to play for other nationality for good reasons besides bribe. While it is true that bribe may have led Mbappe to play for France, let's not forget that he had spent his early career days in France and would have had to still face serious competition for team place in an African side with less prospect of world cup dominance.
Let's forget the story of the bribe, it just isn't like he made a wrong decision not to pay the bribe, but a more deliberate effort to maintain a promising career.

That is true. However, before I was aware about his sad reality african players face on their native countries, I had a wrong perception about them. I thought they were the faulty ones for not willing to play for their homeland and fighting to boost it to the next level inside soccer industry. I imagined they just despised their countries to play for foreigner ones as mercenaries. But now I see why they go through this route: that is because the foreigner countries are the ones which actually value them as professionals and give all the necessary tools they need to develop themselves inside the career.

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Hey guys, reading little story on Kylian Mbappe who on Thursday visited Cameroon on a charity with the deaf and other familiarization visit to his father's home town. He spoke with Joseph Dion Ngute, the Cameroon's Prime Minister, he was honoured visiting and I believe this is just like the humanitarian work some influential people do

But one striking revelation was that he would have been a cameroonian player if they weren't asking his father to pay them money before allowing him to play while he still trying to fix his career and French allowed him without payment.
I heard someone say that FIFA must draw up a law where it says that all players must play for the country where their parents are descendants, only so many African players would play for their African teams and be a power in world soccer and FIFA must also give 10 to 12 slots to the African continent for more African teams to qualify for the World Cup. I laughed because of how ignorant the person is with respect to football in the continent of Africa. My research I have done on why most players of African descent do player for their country made me come to the conclusion that there are a plethora of factors such as the one mentioned by the OP restricting these players. Indeed they want to play for their African countries and at the same time they do not want to go through all the dramas just to be in the team. That is why they just opt for the country they were birthed in or naturalized in.

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Hey guys, reading little story on Kylian Mbappe who on Thursday visited Cameroon on a charity with the deaf and other familiarization visit to his father's home town. He spoke with Joseph Dion Ngute, the Cameroon's Prime Minister, he was honoured visiting and I believe this is just like the humanitarian work some influential people do

But one striking revelation was that he would have been a cameroonian player if they weren't asking his father to pay them money before allowing him to play while he still trying to fix his career and French allowed him without payment.

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"At first, I wanted my son to play for Cameroon, but someone at the Cameroonian Football Federation charged me money that I didn't have to make him play," he explained. " The French charged nothing."

I have also heard of some local stories about how some coaches require money from new footballers before they allow them on trier both in their clubs and national teams. Is this happening globally for new players who are still seeking to find a spot in clubs?

Do you think Cameroun miss Mbappe or it is Mbappe that missed Cameroun ?

https://theafricanhistory.com/2975#:~:text=My%20father
From the look of things it quite obvious that its Cameroon that missed out on a chance for one of the best players in the world to have grasp their playing Field and who knows what they would have achieved with him playing there, I mean look at the genius performance with the French team they almost won the world cup if not for faith that has already deem them to lose to the Argentines.

But sadly this kinda of events is what has been taking place in almost all the African teams because of the level of corruption that has eaten into the country's  system.
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July 13, 2023, 08:28:21 PM
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Hey guys, reading little story on Kylian Mbappe who on Thursday visited Cameroon on a charity with the deaf and other familiarization visit to his father's home town. He spoke with Joseph Dion Ngute, the Cameroon's Prime Minister, he was honoured visiting and I believe this is just like the humanitarian work some influential people do

But one striking revelation was that he would have been a cameroonian player if they weren't asking his father to pay them money before allowing him to play while he still trying to fix his career and French allowed him without payment.

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"At first, I wanted my son to play for Cameroon, but someone at the Cameroonian Football Federation charged me money that I didn't have to make him play," he explained. " The French charged nothing."

I have also heard of some local stories about how some coaches require money from new footballers before they allow them on trier both in their clubs and national teams. Is this happening globally for new players who are still seeking to find a spot in clubs?

Do you think Cameroun miss Mbappe or it is Mbappe that missed Cameroun ?

https://theafricanhistory.com/2975#:~:text=My%20father

This is somewhat normal especially in local clubs or even in the most prestigious clubs anywhere in this world, money always moves everything and if you're that someone who wanted to play in a specific team and then the team doesn't see any capabilities within you, there is a chance that they will ask for money for you to play in their club. But after that, it is not guaranteed that you will have those certain minutes in every game because the fact is still the same, they don't trust you with the time.

I mean, not all clubs do this but I'm certain enough that there are some instances like these that are hidden behind the curtains.

Now for the question, obviously, Cameroon missed that chance to hire Mbappe to their team.
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July 13, 2023, 08:58:47 PM
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Hey guys, reading little story on Kylian Mbappe who on Thursday visited Cameroon on a charity with the deaf and other familiarization visit to his father's home town. He spoke with Joseph Dion Ngute, the Cameroon's Prime Minister, he was honoured visiting and I believe this is just like the humanitarian work some influential people do

But one striking revelation was that he would have been a cameroonian player if they weren't asking his father to pay them money before allowing him to play while he still trying to fix his career and French allowed him without payment.

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"At first, I wanted my son to play for Cameroon, but someone at the Cameroonian Football Federation charged me money that I didn't have to make him play," he explained. " The French charged nothing."

I have also heard of some local stories about how some coaches require money from new footballers before they allow them on trier both in their clubs and national teams. Is this happening globally for new players who are still seeking to find a spot in clubs?

Do you think Cameroun miss Mbappe or it is Mbappe that missed Cameroun ?

https://theafricanhistory.com/2975#:~:text=My%20father

This is somewhat normal especially in local clubs or even in the most prestigious clubs anywhere in this world, money always moves everything and if you're that someone who wanted to play in a specific team and then the team doesn't see any capabilities within you, there is a chance that they will ask for money for you to play in their club. But after that, it is not guaranteed that you will have those certain minutes in every game because the fact is still the same, they don't trust you with the time.

I mean, not all clubs do this but I'm certain enough that there are some instances like these that are hidden behind the curtains.

Now for the question, obviously, Cameroon missed that chance to hire Mbappe to their team.
I would agree with you that this tend to happen in local clubs and its truly bad and I don't know why football association seem to be corrupt on this issue. Football is a game of skill and anyone possessing these skills should be allowed to participated not withholding them and asking for extra money in order for them to express their talents and skill and anyway it's a big loss for Cameroon, mbappe would have made their team a whole better.

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July 13, 2023, 09:13:30 PM
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Corruption in sports ends the dream of many players, this is unfortunate, but it is good to see that people are noticing this. Maybe it starts to change.

That's true some of the best players and fighters are not getting the break that they need because of corruption, here in our country our athletes are improving because thanks to social media they can voice their complaints and their supporters will know it and they will demand explanations from these officials.
Athletes should be allowed to develop with the help of their government because, in the first place, their athletes are the ones that will represent them in international competition, so they have to send the best that they can produce.
With having the current era and technology and accessibility that we do have today then its really truly that easy to express and let the public know if ever there's something that you do really want or like to address
specially something like this which do pertains about some corruption or whatsoever but its not precisely or completely be that could happen because there are really indeed things which cant surface out and this is when
both parties do make out such agreement and of course this one wont really be talking that small amount of money. Corruption isnt only that happening on sports world but also in other industries as well.
Im not really that shocked anymore on what are the possible not known transactions that happen behind those curtains. Bribe or paying up for them to play? Its not impossible and as long
there would be those people who would be sitting on the top or having the authority then its always that possible.

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July 13, 2023, 09:19:31 PM
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Hey guys, reading little story on Kylian Mbappe who on Thursday visited Cameroon on a charity with the deaf and other familiarization visit to his father's home town. He spoke with Joseph Dion Ngute, the Cameroon's Prime Minister, he was honoured visiting and I believe this is just like the humanitarian work some influential people do

But one striking revelation was that he would have been a cameroonian player if they weren't asking his father to pay them money before allowing him to play while he still trying to fix his career and French allowed him without payment.

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"At first, I wanted my son to play for Cameroon, but someone at the Cameroonian Football Federation charged me money that I didn't have to make him play," he explained. " The French charged nothing."

I have also heard of some local stories about how some coaches require money from new footballers before they allow them on trier both in their clubs and national teams. Is this happening globally for new players who are still seeking to find a spot in clubs?

Do you think Cameroun miss Mbappe or it is Mbappe that missed Cameroun ?

https://theafricanhistory.com/2975#:~:text=My%20father
This doesn't just happen in Cameroon, this happens in all of soccer for all I know. The whole football scene is like this and they always victimize young talents that just wanted to play a fair game of soccer but couldn't because either their current roster's marketability is great enough that even if they don't win that much they still could get brand deals and make money off the players, or they just win so many games that changing the roster is going to affect their chances at claiming titles.

Either way it's stupid and there have been contingencies set in case something similar happens, otherwise I don't see why they would take in new talents in the first place.

This game is just stupid sometimes man. It's hard to defend it when even the system's rigged against the player.

It doesn't happen globally his father just said the French charge nothing so they stay with the French team. I'm not really familiar with football sports but I can see this is pretty much similar to other sports where players are being pirated by headhunters. Quite a revelation from Mbappe, will the football federation do something about this because someone just went rogue.

But I'm guessing the French team needs good players and they can't just let Mbappe go to some other team. No need to bribe says the captain just let us win.


The fact that an established team is doing this is evidence enough that perhaps, this also happens in other leagues. You already said this happens in other sports, so what makes you think that this only happens in the Cameroonian Team? That's a little bit unreasonable you know. Plus it doesn't change the fact that the Cameroonian team was asking for a bribe before they even let Mbappe play for them. It doesn't matter that the French team who took him up didn't ask him for a bribe. What this signifies in essence is the fact that this type of corruption happens in sports, and it's a little optimistic to assume that only one team in a league filled with hundreds of countries vying for the top spot has ever committed to such act.

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I'm from the United States and as many of you know whom aren't from here, football (soccer as we call it) is really not all that popular.  It is as a kids game in grade school and high school, but on a professional level it's just not even close to our main pro sports.  What I'm wanting to ask, being someone who's not real well versed, why is FIFA allowed to remain in place as it has?  I mean everyone on the planet knows FIFA is as corrupt as it can possibly get...can't something be changed here??

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July 15, 2023, 10:12:45 AM
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Every players have their own unique experiences when it comes to joining the league and maybe this is true since he will not say that and just ruin his reputation. Well this might not be a requirement but maybe a small team can’t pay that much and that’s why they need something in return so they can accept that player.

I don't believe that Cameroon FA is a small team. Cameroon is known in world class FIFA football tournament having been the first of Africa country to o reach the quarter finals in Italia 90. So it is not a small team that the government can't source out funds for the team. It is just the human greed that few people will want to take opportunity on. The FA didn't make a counter claim on what mbappe said and I don't think he said it with heavy heart or to spite nor indict anybody. After all, he only said that regarding the FA and not on any personality.


If other players will make a statement like this, then we can validate that statement and I’m sure its not happening anymore.

These kind of news are being filtered as rumour in local football but the difference with this is that it was made public.

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July 15, 2023, 09:34:15 PM
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I'm from the United States and as many of you know whom aren't from here, football (soccer as we call it) is really not all that popular.  It is as a kids game in grade school and high school, but on a professional level it's just not even close to our main pro sports.  What I'm wanting to ask, being someone who's not real well versed, why is FIFA allowed to remain in place as it has?  I mean everyone on the planet knows FIFA is as corrupt as it can possibly get...can't something be changed here??
There is something that can be changed in FIFA, namely the people, but that is impossible because the people in FIFA are also controlled by people who have a strong influence, so if you want to stop it, try to break the chain. But it's not easy because this has been going on for decades, and we don't know the root of the problem.

Perhaps, we can do it in our respective countries, but if there is influence from a strong person who has great power in our country and interferes in sports matters, it seems like it will be difficult to do. The morale of the people must be corrected so that corruption does not happen again, but this has been happening for a long time and is difficult to stop but not impossible.

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July 15, 2023, 09:53:09 PM
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I'm not surprised that this is happening, especially in sports federation and organizations that are handled by the government. There's just too much corruption going around these days that every single thing is riddled with it. It is Cameroon's loss, as we can see that Mbappe is really shining in his current team. His potential was honed, skills sharpened, and talent used.

In relatively rich countries, they can afford to pay for everything that their sports team needs, hence why France made Mbappe play without paying anything. But even then, poor countries should still allocate something for the development of their sports program and not charge aspirants in playing for their country.
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July 15, 2023, 09:59:08 PM
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I'm not surprised that this is happening, especially in sports federation and organizations that are handled by the government. There's just too much corruption going around these days that every single thing is riddled with it. It is Cameroon's loss, as we can see that Mbappe is really shining in his current team. His potential was honed, skills sharpened, and talent used.

In relatively rich countries, they can afford to pay for everything that their sports team needs, hence why France made Mbappe play without paying anything. But even then, poor countries should still allocate something for the development of their sports program and not charge aspirants in playing for their country.

That's the sad reality of life, not only in sports but other industries as well.
Some people are getting their position owed to bribery, as there will be officials that are prone to corruption.
But if you are good enough, you will find your way to achieve what you want in life, just like Mbappe.
He proved that he has the skills but is now representing other country, which is willing to accept him even without the bribe.
It is like a slap in the face for those people that who didn't accept him because he had no money. That's a good revenge though.
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July 15, 2023, 10:03:47 PM
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I'm from the United States and as many of you know whom aren't from here, football (soccer as we call it) is really not all that popular.  It is as a kids game in grade school and high school, but on a professional level it's just not even close to our main pro sports.  What I'm wanting to ask, being someone who's not real well versed, why is FIFA allowed to remain in place as it has?  I mean everyone on the planet knows FIFA is as corrupt as it can possibly get...can't something be changed here??
There used to be dominance from some people or certain country. How does this happen, just with the share of money. Every event hosted by FIFA on investigation gets identified with the involvement of corruption. The latest being the Qatar hosting the world cup, where it is said that big money have been used to bribe the officials. This have been a long story that gets continued. Before Qatar there is investigation that Russia bribed the officials to host the 2018 Men's World Cup. Whether there is change in the persons or the policies, whatever there'll be corruption forever.

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July 16, 2023, 12:46:28 AM
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That's the sad reality of life, not only in sports but other industries as well.
Some people are getting their position owed to bribery, as there will be officials that are prone to corruption.
But if you are good enough, you will find your way to achieve what you want in life, just like Mbappe.
He proved that he has the skills but is now representing other country, which is willing to accept him even without the bribe.
It is like a slap in the face for those people that who didn't accept him because he had no money. That's a good revenge though.
Skill will always impose itself over corrupt structures and this is just one more example of this, if those at the top use their power to suppress the talented people under the command then those people once they understand there is no future for them on that structure will simply leave.

And once they are part of a structure which cares about nothing else but they performance they will shine, and put in ridicule all of those people that hindered them.
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July 16, 2023, 01:08:59 AM
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Hey guys, reading little story on Kylian Mbappe who on Thursday visited Cameroon on a charity with the deaf and other familiarization visit to his father's home town. He spoke with Joseph Dion Ngute, the Cameroon's Prime Minister, he was honoured visiting and I believe this is just like the humanitarian work some influential people do

But one striking revelation was that he would have been a cameroonian player if they weren't asking his father to pay them money before allowing him to play while he still trying to fix his career and French allowed him without payment.

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"At first, I wanted my son to play for Cameroon, but someone at the Cameroonian Football Federation charged me money that I didn't have to make him play," he explained. " The French charged nothing."

This is nothing out of the ordinary, it's true and happening across all borders and sectors, the issue of bribery is not something that is peculiar to government, football alone, it's very much circulated, even in the music industry, many of the very popular and powerful music artiste we enjoy their songs today, once upon a time, paid a hefty fee to organizers of a show, so as to be given a chance to perform on that show.
As unfortunate as it looks, it's how the system has been configured for many.

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Do you think Cameroun miss Mbappe or it is Mbappe that missed Cameroun ?
The answer is obvious mate, mbappe is one of the best players in the whole world for me, Infact, after Messi, I consider Mbappe the next big player, imagine what cameroon national team would have been like if they had a player like Mbappe, of course they missed a great opportunity, a golden player as a result of their greed.

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July 16, 2023, 05:08:12 PM
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That's the sad reality of life, not only in sports but other industries as well.
Some people are getting their position owed to bribery, as there will be officials that are prone to corruption.
But if you are good enough, you will find your way to achieve what you want in life, just like Mbappe.
He proved that he has the skills but is now representing other country, which is willing to accept him even without the bribe.
It is like a slap in the face for those people that who didn't accept him because he had no money. That's a good revenge though.
Skill will always impose itself over corrupt structures and this is just one more example of this, if those at the top use their power to suppress the talented people under the command then those people once they understand there is no future for them on that structure will simply leave.

And once they are part of a structure which cares about nothing else but they performance they will shine, and put in ridicule all of those people that hindered them.
That's why people with skills feel better off going from place to place where skills are appreciated and can get paid well. This has happened in many countries with human resources, but the government or regulators seem to complicate their desire to be part of them, so they decide to leave and look elsewhere. And it turns out that their presence in other places can help them to get to the peak of their career quickly without hindrance because they have more reliable abilities so that their presence can change the position of the company that hired them. This is a slap in the face for the people who have rejected it because they can never get it again.

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July 16, 2023, 05:45:25 PM
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OP: Behind the players, there are usually managers who have seen their talent early on and "hire" them as prospects from a very early age, around these parts they are called scouts or in simple words headhunters, there are them in any sport, but mainly soccer, basketball, baseball, etc.

These scouts offer parents money to play for their teams with very limited contracts in the future, but in the short term the amount ($) offered for a player which is not known to become a professional, it is so tempting even if they are a few dollars that because of their social conditions they take them.

Then these same scouts depending on the player and his talent begin to "promote" him, paying coaches if necessary so that these guys are always playing.

Sometimes really the question is how much talent is left in the shadows because they're not lucky enough to have this promotion or a parent or scouts do the right thing.

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July 16, 2023, 06:34:30 PM
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I have heard similar stories in my country, and it's also for both for the movie and music industries too. stories like you have to pay money before you can be allowed to act some roles in the movie scene. I believe that those stories might not be lies, but if that's true, such a situation could only be common among up-coming footballers, and it's not right to request such a bribe before allowing them to perform. Although they are still good players, when they become very successful and popular players, they will still make more money than they have spent.

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July 16, 2023, 09:14:25 PM
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I have heard similar stories in my country, and it's also for both for the movie and music industries too. stories like you have to pay money before you can be allowed to act some roles in the movie scene. I believe that those stories might not be lies, but if that's true, such a situation could only be common among up-coming footballers, and it's not right to request such a bribe before allowing them to perform. Although they are still good players, when they become very successful and popular players, they will still make more money than they have spent.

It's not that surprising anymore because this is happening almost everywhere in this world, no matter what industry you are trying to go, there are chances that they will ask you for some money for a fee that doesn't really exist. Even receipts doesn't exists in this kind of scenario, you will just give what they wanted in-exchange for the hopes that you will be given the time that you wanted to perform in your chosen industry.

Bribery has been around us for generations now, tough to say but it became tradition already even if it's a bad practice.

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July 17, 2023, 09:57:20 AM
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That's the sad reality of life, not only in sports but other industries as well.
Some people are getting their position owed to bribery, as there will be officials that are prone to corruption.
But if you are good enough, you will find your way to achieve what you want in life, just like Mbappe.
He proved that he has the skills but is now representing other country, which is willing to accept him even without the bribe.
It is like a slap in the face for those people that who didn't accept him because he had no money. That's a good revenge though.
Skill will always impose itself over corrupt structures and this is just one more example of this, if those at the top use their power to suppress the talented people under the command then those people once they understand there is no future for them on that structure will simply leave.

And once they are part of a structure which cares about nothing else but they performance they will shine, and put in ridicule all of those people that hindered them.
In such countries if the talented person don't have access to leave the country his talent will be a waste because he wasn't given a chance to excel. I have seen that so many times down here in my country. That is why you see that the coach was after money thinking that without him Mbappe will not shine but he forgot that he is not God and can't stop the destiny of Mbappe. There are so many quality players in Africa that because of bribe,these players are not lucky to show case their talent to the world, and they are ravishing in poverty. Maybe those ones that are not lucky was not destiny to be a footballer.
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July 17, 2023, 10:21:38 AM
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Difficult as it is, it is not Cameroon's problem but that of their corrupt officials who are making some of today's star players not want to feel and become Cameroon national team players.
For Cameroon actually not only Mbappe but there are several other players who could have defended the national team and in the end refused.
Mbappe's colleagues in the French national team Tchouameni and Wiliam Saliba also have the same blood which in the end is in France now there could be the same reason like that.

Corrupt officials end up depriving the country of valuable assets for football player.

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Looks like this is because globally there are lots of prospects who wanted to play badly and the coaches and staff are taking advantage of the situation so they will just use their authority to make money from these young players. Well! this is true when you look at their statements from different parts of the world because this is an indication that they are impossible to lie together about these things. Most likely the coaches are the luckiest on the team because aside from his salary, they can also get money with this kind of sideline. Poor young players who needed to do this just to showcase their talents, this should not be happening.

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July 22, 2023, 12:57:09 AM
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Skill will always impose itself over corrupt structures and this is just one more example of this, if those at the top use their power to suppress the talented people under the command then those people once they understand there is no future for them on that structure will simply leave.

And once they are part of a structure which cares about nothing else but they performance they will shine, and put in ridicule all of those people that hindered them.
In such countries if the talented person don't have access to leave the country his talent will be a waste because he wasn't given a chance to excel. I have seen that so many times down here in my country. That is why you see that the coach was after money thinking that without him Mbappe will not shine but he forgot that he is not God and can't stop the destiny of Mbappe. There are so many quality players in Africa that because of bribe,these players are not lucky to show case their talent to the world, and they are ravishing in poverty. Maybe those ones that are not lucky was not destiny to be a footballer.
Without a doubt there are soccer players out there which were unable to overcome those corrupt structures as they did not had the right options available to them, however when the skill level of a person reaches a very high point then sooner or later the doors will open to them.

And someone of the caliber of Mbappe would have found an opportunity to shine elsewhere, as those that know about soccer would have seen his enormous potential and will not allow it to go to waste.
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Looks like this is because globally there are lots of prospects who wanted to play badly and the coaches and staff are taking advantage of the situation so they will just use their authority to make money from these young players. Well! this is true when you look at their statements from different parts of the world because this is an indication that they are impossible to lie together about these things. Most likely the coaches are the luckiest on the team because aside from his salary, they can also get money with this kind of sideline. Poor young players who needed to do this just to showcase their talents, this should not be happening.
The association should punish people who only want to profit from it. But that seems difficult because those people are so well organized that it's hard for the authorities to track them down. And it also seems that some authorities protect those who carry out this practice so that their activities are still running well. Meanwhile, talented young players could not join because many of them did not have the money to join.

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July 22, 2023, 10:54:29 AM
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Difficult as it is, it is not Cameroon's problem but that of their corrupt officials who are making some of today's star players not want to feel and become Cameroon national team players.
For Cameroon actually not only Mbappe but there are several other players who could have defended the national team and in the end refused.
Mbappe's colleagues in the French national team Tchouameni and Wiliam Saliba also have the same blood which in the end is in France now there could be the same reason like that.

Corrupt officials end up depriving the country of valuable assets for football player.
Yes, it's only done by individuals and officials, so it's normal when you see football in a country that is not developing advanced, of course there is something in the regulations that makes it difficult for talented players to join and play, maybe Mbappe and several others are just one of the published ones. There could be other players who may be players with potential too but find it difficult to enter the national team.

Usually in countries that are more advanced and free of corruption there will always be convenience for the requirements to enter the national team and even assisted in the naturalization process for moving countries so that it is not complicated, like this this will set an example for a great and more advanced national team, in my country since the replacement of the football board it has been much better.

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July 22, 2023, 11:02:30 AM
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[....]Do you think Cameroun miss Mbappe or it is Mbappe that missed Cameroun ?
The answer should be obvious.
Mbappe also said Cameroon was calling and giving him citizenship so....

I thought maybe some fake representative is trying to scam them but doesn't seem to be the case. I cannot find any article where officials from the Cameroon Football Federation denying the allegations so it's probably true.
Valid argument , as how sure they are that the one asks them to pay money is truly from the inside team or just someone who wanted to take advantage of the situation as he has a issue about citizenship things that somehow is what becomes the problem from the other side.
though we are not certain about that then they must clear that in cameroon because that is a Huge allegation and they need to prove that or else they will be in bad situation if cameroon file them a case.

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Difficult as it is, it is not Cameroon's problem but that of their corrupt officials who are making some of today's star players not want to feel and become Cameroon national team players.
For Cameroon actually not only Mbappe but there are several other players who could have defended the national team and in the end refused.
Mbappe's colleagues in the French national team Tchouameni and Wiliam Saliba also have the same blood which in the end is in France now there could be the same reason like that.

Corrupt officials end up depriving the country of valuable assets for football player.
Yes, it's only done by individuals and officials, so it's normal when you see football in a country that is not developing advanced, of course there is something in the regulations that makes it difficult for talented players to join and play, maybe Mbappe and several others are just one of the published ones. There could be other players who may be players with potential too but find it difficult to enter the national team.

Usually in countries that are more advanced and free of corruption there will always be convenience for the requirements to enter the national team and even assisted in the naturalization process for moving countries so that it is not complicated, like this this will set an example for a great and more advanced national team, in my country since the replacement of the football board it has been much better.
Mbappe and some other players who are exposed are those who have good careers and of course we also have the thought of clay in this case because only a few are exposed then things like will be very much not exposed especially for careers that are not as brilliant as Mbappe and some players I mentioned earlier.

It is difficult when corruption has become a culture for a country so it is indeed like a mafia action that is organized because it is not just one party involved but all parties and even much bigger than we imagine.

It is difficult to change things like this if there is no awareness from all parties and with this, some officials who are like this by only wanting personal gain, conditions such as corruption or anything related to public benefits will falter.

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July 23, 2023, 11:45:34 AM
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Hey guys, reading little story on Kylian Mbappe who on Thursday visited Cameroon on a charity with the deaf and other familiarization visit to his father's home town. He spoke with Joseph Dion Ngute, the Cameroon's Prime Minister, he was honoured visiting and I believe this is just like the humanitarian work some influential people do

But one striking revelation was that he would have been a cameroonian player if they weren't asking his father to pay them money before allowing him to play while he still trying to fix his career and French allowed him without payment.

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"At first, I wanted my son to play for Cameroon, but someone at the Cameroonian Football Federation charged me money that I didn't have to make him play," he explained. " The French charged nothing."

I have also heard of some local stories about how some coaches require money from new footballers before they allow them on trier both in their clubs and national teams. Is this happening globally for new players who are still seeking to find a spot in clubs?

Do you think Cameroun miss Mbappe or it is Mbappe that missed Cameroun ?

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People would always look down on you when they feel you have nothing to offer, but then come running to you when they find you beneficial to them, and that's what happened in mbappe's case and it's so unfortunate that the Cameroonian Football Federation missed out on one of the greatest football player of our time, well maybe it's his fate to play for the France team and I don't think he would had gotten this far if he played for Cameroon.
 The rule of Football doesn't encourage bribe or permit people tip a coach to be featured in a match or accepted into a team but some individuals especially those in 3rd class countries collect bribes from players to feature them into their squad, I've also heard of stories where talented players are rejected by some scouts or coaches because they lack funds to bribe their way into the team which is not right.
 Due to this corrupt act by some officials in most 3rd class countries, many talented players had to relocate to other countries where they're tried fairly and merit a spot to play and showcase there talent just like the case of mbappe.

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July 23, 2023, 12:22:45 PM
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Do you think Cameroun miss Mbappe or it is Mbappe that missed Cameroun ?
Of course it was Cameroon who lost Mbappe, because you can see how he influenced the result in the world cup final when France was in a stalemate. He was the first player to break the deadlock and managed to make the match have to go through on penalties even though in the end France lost, so you can see how strong the player's determination is.
If the story is true, it's not unusual because there are always official officials who prioritize money over sports development, because being a corrupt official will make them financially secure even though it will cause big losses for many people, and always poor countries are filled with officials with such a stupid mindset that it becomes difficult for the country to develop including sports because it loses the big opportunity to have a great player like Mbappe. There are countries with limited human resources such as athletes who will provide good facilities for any athlete who excels to move to become their citizen but more countries waste golden opportunities because of corrupt officials

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July 23, 2023, 05:25:59 PM
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I have heard similar stories in my country, and it's also for both for the movie and music industries too. stories like you have to pay money before you can be allowed to act some roles in the movie scene. I believe that those stories might not be lies, but if that's true, such a situation could only be common among up-coming footballers, and it's not right to request such a bribe before allowing them to perform. Although they are still good players, when they become very successful and popular players, they will still make more money than they have spent.
Corruption isn't bound to countries and organizations, there is corruption in each and every country and each and every organization in the world, it is just that some are hidden and some are known by the public, those that come in front of the public are shamed and those who are hidden are never known. These kinds of incidents where people are asked for money for the roles that they are assigned or deserve to get happens almost every day.

Such people are barely known by the public because those who are asked for bribes never reveal these things to the public because they know the ones asking for money are in power and if they come to know about what they did, they might never allow them to get into the position ever.

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July 23, 2023, 06:19:13 PM
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Honestly, I have no Idea if he will miss his team and the country will miss him. It depends how you look at this whole situation. I can tell you that if I were asked by a country to lead their team as captain, I'd to it and move, even if i was a low level player in my own country. Him playing for France is an achievement, especially in financial aspect, because he'd never be able to earn comparable money playing for Cameroon.
Bribes are more popular in lower leagues and in poor countries. I think that it's great the he didn't go for it and chose to migrate.

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July 24, 2023, 07:08:12 PM
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I don't know if you remember that when the QATAR game, well specifically the first game they played with Ecuador, there was a lot of speculation that the Qataris told the Ecuadorians that they were going to give them such a large amount of money that it would insure their lives and that of their families only after they let Qatar win, there was a lot of speculation almost for the first game, where Ecuador obviously won, this is something that impressed me , at least it impressed me , because I never knew if that was true or not.

This became a very strong rumor where it obviously caught the attention of the first World Cup match, these things usually get everyone's attention because when it comes to football and important matches, things in the world focus there and how is it done afterwards? Things in the world of football have put a lot of magnifying glass on it , since the things they did were discovered or came out, the corruption associated with the Blatter era that turned everything into a great revelation of things.

We as football fans know very well that things in football are still handled with some corruption, I think about VAR a lot more now that what they say cannot be made public , or what they say to the referee, we as humans make many mistakes, and those mistakes are easy to detect through technology, for this reason it is very delicate , I have faith and hope that possible cases of corruption can be fixed and dissuaded over time .

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Corruption isn't bound to countries and organizations, there is corruption in each and every country and each and every organization in the world, it is just that some are hidden and some are known by the public, those that come in front of the public are shamed and those who are hidden are never known. These kinds of incidents where people are asked for money for the roles that they are assigned or deserve to get happens almost every day.

Such people are barely known by the public because those who are asked for bribes never reveal these things to the public because they know the ones asking for money are in power and if they come to know about what they did, they might never allow them to get into the position ever.

You are right, mate, it's not just tied to one country, and for those countries where such news is not heard, there's no assurance that such corruption is not going on there. The truth is that some of those things are done secretly, so no one will disclose them, and even if you disclose the information to some people, they will not believe you because they can think that you are only trying to paint the organisation black. Also, when one is in this kind of situation, one has no other option but to pay and move on to the next stage. There's one celebrity whose autobiography I read, and she said she was only acting in some movies that did not put her name in the public eye, but that during the shooting of one interesting movie, she had to pay for the role she chose to play in that movie, and from there, she started receiving requests to be featured in some movies.

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July 26, 2023, 04:41:10 AM
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Corruption isn't bound to countries and organizations, there is corruption in each and every country and each and every organization in the world, it is just that some are hidden and some are known by the public, those that come in front of the public are shamed and those who are hidden are never known. These kinds of incidents where people are asked for money for the roles that they are assigned or deserve to get happens almost every day.

Such people are barely known by the public because those who are asked for bribes never reveal these things to the public because they know the ones asking for money are in power and if they come to know about what they did, they might never allow them to get into the position ever.
You are right, mate, it's not just tied to one country, and for those countries where such news is not heard, there's no assurance that such corruption is not going on there. The truth is that some of those things are done secretly, so no one will disclose them, and even if you disclose the information to some people, they will not believe you because they can think that you are only trying to paint the organisation black. Also, when one is in this kind of situation, one has no other option but to pay and move on to the next stage. There's one celebrity whose autobiography I read, and she said she was only acting in some movies that did not put her name in the public eye, but that during the shooting of one interesting movie, she had to pay for the role she chose to play in that movie, and from there, she started receiving requests to be featured in some movies.
The biggest reason why the people who are asked for money don't disclose this information is that they are threatened not to do that, and a person who is poor and has no strong backup would obviously not risk his life only to reveal someone else's reality because the ones who ask for a bribe are the ones in authority and has all kinds of power and can do anything, if they refuse to offer the position only because they aren't given what they asked for, the best thing is to leave silently without creating a scene.

We have seen this happening on a lot of occasions where people tried to reveal the realities of people in power, especially in politics, and they became victims of target killing right after that, which is evident that they were assassinated by the same group of people who were behind the scams.

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July 26, 2023, 06:22:46 PM
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Corruption isn't bound to countries and organizations, there is corruption in each and every country and each and every organization in the world, it is just that some are hidden and some are known by the public, those that come in front of the public are shamed and those who are hidden are never known. These kinds of incidents where people are asked for money for the roles that they are assigned or deserve to get happens almost every day.

Such people are barely known by the public because those who are asked for bribes never reveal these things to the public because they know the ones asking for money are in power and if they come to know about what they did, they might never allow them to get into the position ever.
You are right, mate, it's not just tied to one country, and for those countries where such news is not heard, there's no assurance that such corruption is not going on there. The truth is that some of those things are done secretly, so no one will disclose them, and even if you disclose the information to some people, they will not believe you because they can think that you are only trying to paint the organisation black. Also, when one is in this kind of situation, one has no other option but to pay and move on to the next stage. There's one celebrity whose autobiography I read, and she said she was only acting in some movies that did not put her name in the public eye, but that during the shooting of one interesting movie, she had to pay for the role she chose to play in that movie, and from there, she started receiving requests to be featured in some movies.
The biggest reason why the people who are asked for money don't disclose this information is that they are threatened not to do that, and a person who is poor and has no strong backup would obviously not risk his life only to reveal someone else's reality because the ones who ask for a bribe are the ones in authority and has all kinds of power and can do anything, if they refuse to offer the position only because they aren't given what they asked for, the best thing is to leave silently without creating a scene.

We have seen this happening on a lot of occasions where people tried to reveal the realities of people in power, especially in politics, and they became victims of target killing right after that, which is evident that they were assassinated by the same group of people who were behind the scams.

Sometimes, people are not that surprised anymore if bribing should come first before they can join the club and participate some of the games because these things have unfortunately became a norm and it's like a habit that people are already accustomed of. It's sad but that is the reality and even if they will voice it out, their voice won't matter or it won't reach to the desired crowd so that people will know. Some are asked to sign an NDA just to secure it behind the curtains.

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July 26, 2023, 06:32:37 PM
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Corruption isn't bound to countries and organizations, there is corruption in each and every country and each and every organization in the world, it is just that some are hidden and some are known by the public, those that come in front of the public are shamed and those who are hidden are never known. These kinds of incidents where people are asked for money for the roles that they are assigned or deserve to get happens almost every day.

Such people are barely known by the public because those who are asked for bribes never reveal these things to the public because they know the ones asking for money are in power and if they come to know about what they did, they might never allow them to get into the position ever.
You are right, mate, it's not just tied to one country, and for those countries where such news is not heard, there's no assurance that such corruption is not going on there. The truth is that some of those things are done secretly, so no one will disclose them, and even if you disclose the information to some people, they will not believe you because they can think that you are only trying to paint the organisation black. Also, when one is in this kind of situation, one has no other option but to pay and move on to the next stage. There's one celebrity whose autobiography I read, and she said she was only acting in some movies that did not put her name in the public eye, but that during the shooting of one interesting movie, she had to pay for the role she chose to play in that movie, and from there, she started receiving requests to be featured in some movies.
The biggest reason why the people who are asked for money don't disclose this information is that they are threatened not to do that, and a person who is poor and has no strong backup would obviously not risk his life only to reveal someone else's reality because the ones who ask for a bribe are the ones in authority and has all kinds of power and can do anything, if they refuse to offer the position only because they aren't given what they asked for, the best thing is to leave silently without creating a scene.

We have seen this happening on a lot of occasions where people tried to reveal the realities of people in power, especially in politics, and they became victims of target killing right after that, which is evident that they were assassinated by the same group of people who were behind the scams.

Sometimes, people are not that surprised anymore if bribing should come first before they can join the club and participate some of the games because these things have unfortunately became a norm and it's like a habit that people are already accustomed of. It's sad but that is the reality and even if they will voice it out, their voice won't matter or it won't reach to the desired crowd so that people will know. Some are asked to sign an NDA just to secure it behind the curtains.

These are moments behind the scenes but this sport makes the players like a celebrity. It is kind of hard to make them silent when people are actually reading beyond the lines. Even the contracts and the money along with it are discussed publicly.

The father however is the first to squeak. If the legacy media take focus on this revelation, this will be talked over and over in the sports news unfortunately there are lots of crazy things happening around the world. This Cameroonian one is ignored.

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July 28, 2023, 03:08:45 AM
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Corruption isn't bound to countries and organizations, there is corruption in each and every country and each and every organization in the world, it is just that some are hidden and some are known by the public, those that come in front of the public are shamed and those who are hidden are never known. These kinds of incidents where people are asked for money for the roles that they are assigned or deserve to get happens almost every day.

Such people are barely known by the public because those who are asked for bribes never reveal these things to the public because they know the ones asking for money are in power and if they come to know about what they did, they might never allow them to get into the position ever.

You are right, mate, it's not just tied to one country, and for those countries where such news is not heard, there's no assurance that such corruption is not going on there. The truth is that some of those things are done secretly, so no one will disclose them, and even if you disclose the information to some people, they will not believe you because they can think that you are only trying to paint the organisation black. Also, when one is in this kind of situation, one has no other option but to pay and move on to the next stage. There's one celebrity whose autobiography I read, and she said she was only acting in some movies that did not put her name in the public eye, but that during the shooting of one interesting movie, she had to pay for the role she chose to play in that movie, and from there, she started receiving requests to be featured in some movies.
Those in the positions of power on those industries know very well they hold a massive influence and they can destroy or make a career if they want, however while this is possible in sports, and I have no doubts it is very common too, it is also true that once a player reaches a world class level then they can skip all of those barriers to entry.

And it is important that stories like these become more widely known so when other people face that situation as well they refuse to give in.
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July 28, 2023, 09:19:24 AM
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Corruption isn't bound to countries and organizations, there is corruption in each and every country and each and every organization in the world, it is just that some are hidden and some are known by the public, those that come in front of the public are shamed and those who are hidden are never known. These kinds of incidents where people are asked for money for the roles that they are assigned or deserve to get happens almost every day.

Such people are barely known by the public because those who are asked for bribes never reveal these things to the public because they know the ones asking for money are in power and if they come to know about what they did, they might never allow them to get into the position ever.
You are right, mate, it's not just tied to one country, and for those countries where such news is not heard, there's no assurance that such corruption is not going on there. The truth is that some of those things are done secretly, so no one will disclose them, and even if you disclose the information to some people, they will not believe you because they can think that you are only trying to paint the organisation black. Also, when one is in this kind of situation, one has no other option but to pay and move on to the next stage. There's one celebrity whose autobiography I read, and she said she was only acting in some movies that did not put her name in the public eye, but that during the shooting of one interesting movie, she had to pay for the role she chose to play in that movie, and from there, she started receiving requests to be featured in some movies.
The biggest reason why the people who are asked for money don't disclose this information is that they are threatened not to do that, and a person who is poor and has no strong backup would obviously not risk his life only to reveal someone else's reality because the ones who ask for a bribe are the ones in authority and has all kinds of power and can do anything, if they refuse to offer the position only because they aren't given what they asked for, the best thing is to leave silently without creating a scene.

We have seen this happening on a lot of occasions where people tried to reveal the realities of people in power, especially in politics, and they became victims of target killing right after that, which is evident that they were assassinated by the same group of people who were behind the scams.
That's hard to take, but it's the terrible reality in many societies today. You're right: power dynamics cause corruption and abuse. Doesn't silence indicate a damaged system? Shouldn't we challenge and change this? Instead of leaving "silently," we might strengthen whistleblower protection procedures

Flip the coin: envision a society where transparency is promoted, the powerful are held accountable, and truth doesn't cost lives. Perhaps then, victims of this power play could safely reveal the truth. That's a reality worth defending!

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July 28, 2023, 02:58:35 PM
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And it is important that stories like these become more widely known so when other people face that situation as well they refuse to give in.

in africa there are many countries in a situation of extreme poverty, and in the most distant villages the situation becomes worse, but when someone with a lot of talent appears, then the soccer leaders of the country charge money so that this talented player can play in the main team or manage to be transferred to a foreign team, this is because corrupt African leaders look at that opportunity that the national team has to be playing and attracting people's attention as a way for players to gain exposure and attract attention from the big foreign clubs, so these managers africans charge money

for internal players to play in the main team, this only changes in the scenario where the player is very famous and plays in a big team abroad, in this case the managers do not charge anything for him to go play in the main team, I believe that the majority of the people in africa who follow soccer know this, there is much more corruption in soccer in africa that it is not worth me talking about it here, unfortunately there are no institutions that judge this because corruption in africa comes from the top, it comes from the top leader of the country

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July 28, 2023, 10:49:52 PM
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I have heard similar stories in my country, and it's also for both for the movie and music industries too. stories like you have to pay money before you can be allowed to act some roles in the movie scene. I believe that those stories might not be lies, but if that's true, such a situation could only be common among up-coming footballers, and it's not right to request such a bribe before allowing them to perform. Although they are still good players, when they become very successful and popular players, they will still make more money than they have spent.
Corruption isn't bound to countries and organizations, there is corruption in each and every country and each and every organization in the world, it is just that some are hidden and some are known by the public, those that come in front of the public are shamed and those who are hidden are never known. These kinds of incidents where people are asked for money for the roles that they are assigned or deserve to get happens almost every day.

Such people are barely known by the public because those who are asked for bribes never reveal these things to the public because they know the ones asking for money are in power and if they come to know about what they did, they might never allow them to get into the position ever.
Well, FIFA is an Organization that is worldwide, each Country has its FIFA representatives to Verify that everything is OK, so it is clear that in the countries of the world there may be FIFA Officials that can go wrong, in addition, Money makes many sell whatever it takes to get a good Slice, here we all know that those from FIFA have always had their acts of corruption, that now they try to cover it up, well that's something else, that's so clear and scratchy time as if they were places for preschool children.

I'm not saying that FIFA is involved in acts of corruption, but sometimes we see games that wow it seems as if the referees and all the VAR were actually involved in something, because this type of thing like corruption is sometimes evident, it's as if they wanted a particular team to pass because it happened, despite having done things well, aside from that, it is not known how things are handled in big games, whether or not there is money involved, I am a very distrustful person, And I will always be wary of the acts they do, in fact if they change the VAR it would be great.

In the VAR, conversations no longer come out, if the referees see something that they think and say they are sure of what they saw, they will not even consult the VAR and that is unheard of, so they have played very good plays and because of the referees they do not sentence them as it should be, this is not what it should be, but of course, like things when there was the VAR that discredited everything that the main referee did, they filed the claim, and they approved it, now a central referee has all the power to decide what he sees, but they should make a clause that where it is seen that they stole the game, they should take away their licenses, so that they know that they should not cheat and it is the best option they have to continue preserving their reputation, personally I don't trust much in the decision of some FIFA bodies when it comes to local tournaments.

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And it is important that stories like these become more widely known so when other people face that situation as well they refuse to give in.

in africa there are many countries in a situation of extreme poverty, and in the most distant villages the situation becomes worse, but when someone with a lot of talent appears, then the soccer leaders of the country charge money so that this talented player can play in the main team or manage to be transferred to a foreign team, this is because corrupt African leaders look at that opportunity that the national team has to be playing and attracting people's attention as a way for players to gain exposure and attract attention from the big foreign clubs, so these managers africans charge money

for internal players to play in the main team, this only changes in the scenario where the player is very famous and plays in a big team abroad, in this case the managers do not charge anything for him to go play in the main team, I believe that the majority of the people in africa who follow soccer know this, there is much more corruption in soccer in africa that it is not worth me talking about it here, unfortunately there are no institutions that judge this because corruption in africa comes from the top, it comes from the top leader of the country

Unfortunately, these leaders know that there will be good samaritans that would sponsor these talents and pay huge sums of money just to get the talent out there. These are what these corrupt leaders bank on and that's still holds true even on some of the poorest regions in the world. Football as a sport is famous, and these corrupt officials know that there is money in talent so long as they find it first and build a wall against these.
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But one striking revelation was that he would have been a cameroonian player if they weren't asking his father to pay them money before allowing him to play while he still trying to fix his career and French allowed him without payment.

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"At first, I wanted my son to play for Cameroon, but someone at the Cameroonian Football Federation charged me money that I didn't have to make him play," he explained. " The French charged nothing."

Such things happen where there is no strong state. There is corruption in every country in the world, but in general, where there are strong states and developed societies, these things don't happen.

<...> so these managers africans charge money

for internal players to play in the main team, this only changes in the scenario where the player is very famous and plays in a big team abroad, in this case the managers do not charge anything for him to go play in the main team, I believe that the majority of the people in africa who follow soccer know this, there is much more corruption in soccer in africa that it is not worth me talking about it here, unfortunately there are no institutions that judge this because corruption in africa comes from the top, it comes from the top leader of the country

If corruption comes from the top, and even those at the top are corrupt, it is not surprising that those at the bottom are also corrupt to the point of wanting to charge someone from a poor family whose son simply wants to play football. It is sad.

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Well, FIFA is an Organization that is worldwide, each Country has its FIFA representatives to Verify that everything is OK, so it is clear that in the countries of the world there may be FIFA Officials that can go wrong, in addition, Money makes many sell whatever it takes to get a good Slice, here we all know that those from FIFA have always had their acts of corruption, that now they try to cover it up, well that's something else, that's so clear and scratchy time as if they were places for preschool children.

I'm not saying that FIFA is involved in acts of corruption, but sometimes we see games that wow it seems as if the referees and all the VAR were actually involved in something, because this type of thing like corruption is sometimes evident, it's as if they wanted a particular team to pass because it happened, despite having done things well, aside from that, it is not known how things are handled in big games, whether or not there is money involved, I am a very distrustful person, And I will always be wary of the acts they do, in fact if they change the VAR it would be great.

In the VAR, conversations no longer come out, if the referees see something that they think and say they are sure of what they saw, they will not even consult the VAR and that is unheard of, so they have played very good plays and because of the referees they do not sentence them as it should be, this is not what it should be, but of course, like things when there was the VAR that discredited everything that the main referee did, they filed the claim, and they approved it, now a central referee has all the power to decide what he sees, but they should make a clause that where it is seen that they stole the game, they should take away their licenses, so that they know that they should not cheat and it is the best option they have to continue preserving their reputation, personally I don't trust much in the decision of some FIFA bodies when it comes to local tournaments.

It's disheartening, really, to see the "beautiful game" clouded with such suspicions. Yes, money can sway opinions, and the higher the stakes, the more pervasive the problem seems

But let's consider the other side of the coin. Could it be that we, as fans, attribute too much of our teams' misfortunes to refereeing bias and corruption? Sport, at its core, is about unpredictability, and errors are a part of that. I agree VAR can seem flawed and arbitrary at times, but remember it's a system in its relative infancy. Growing pains are expected, aren't they?

As for your suggestion about stricter punitive measures for referees, it's not a half-bad idea! However, we must be cautious to avoid creating a culture of fear and paranoia among officials

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July 30, 2023, 02:50:00 PM
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And it is important that stories like these become more widely known so when other people face that situation as well they refuse to give in.

in africa there are many countries in a situation of extreme poverty, and in the most distant villages the situation becomes worse, but when someone with a lot of talent appears, then the soccer leaders of the country charge money so that this talented player can play in the main team or manage to be transferred to a foreign team, this is because corrupt African leaders look at that opportunity that the national team has to be playing and attracting people's attention as a way for players to gain exposure and attract attention from the big foreign clubs, so these managers africans charge money

for internal players to play in the main team, this only changes in the scenario where the player is very famous and plays in a big team abroad, in this case the managers do not charge anything for him to go play in the main team, I believe that the majority of the people in africa who follow soccer know this, there is much more corruption in soccer in africa that it is not worth me talking about it here, unfortunately there are no institutions that judge this because corruption in africa comes from the top, it comes from the top leader of the country

Unfortunately, these leaders know that there will be good samaritans that would sponsor these talents and pay huge sums of money just to get the talent out there. These are what these corrupt leaders bank on and that's still holds true even on some of the poorest regions in the world. Football as a sport is famous, and these corrupt officials know that there is money in talent so long as they find it first and build a wall against these.

The more sad thing about this is that it became a tradition to almost every country, people who have talents in some sports should be helped so that they can give some help as well when they are already successful specially in Africa where not all are born leaders and talented. But the thing is, instead of helping them, they are charging them some ridiculous amounts just to be in a certain team and play to get the minutes. In the end, hatred will be passed on and not the other way around.

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in africa there are many countries in a situation of extreme poverty, and in the most distant villages the situation becomes worse, but when someone with a lot of talent appears, then the soccer leaders of the country charge money so that this talented player can play in the main team or manage to be transferred to a foreign team, this is because corrupt African leaders look at that opportunity that the national team has to be playing and attracting people's attention as a way for players to gain exposure and attract attention from the big foreign clubs, so these managers africans charge money

for internal players to play in the main team, this only changes in the scenario where the player is very famous and plays in a big team abroad, in this case the managers do not charge anything for him to go play in the main team, I believe that the majority of the people in africa who follow soccer know this, there is much more corruption in soccer in africa that it is not worth me talking about it here, unfortunately there are no institutions that judge this because corruption in africa comes from the top, it comes from the top leader of the country

Unfortunately, these leaders know that there will be good samaritans that would sponsor these talents and pay huge sums of money just to get the talent out there. These are what these corrupt leaders bank on and that's still holds true even on some of the poorest regions in the world. Football as a sport is famous, and these corrupt officials know that there is money in talent so long as they find it first and build a wall against these.
Fortunately for us and unfortunately for them scouts of the best leagues around the world go anywhere as long as they think they can find some talent, so even if they keep asking for huge amounts of money to allow good players to get on the field, if they are good enough at some point a scout from a foreign country will get to watch them.

And then it is just a matter of time until those players play at Europe and they never forget of all the difficulties  they were forced to face, and they decide to play for an European team instead of the country in which they were born.
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The more sad thing about this is that it became a tradition to almost every country, people who have talents in some sports should be helped so that they can give some help as well when they are already successful specially in Africa where not all are born leaders and talented. But the thing is, instead of helping them, they are charging them some ridiculous amounts just to be in a certain team and play to get the minutes. In the end, hatred will be passed on and not the other way around.
Even though that should not have happened because if people with talent in sports or other than that are assisted, it can trigger them to be able to give the best for their country. They will try hard because their country has allowed them to appear with their country's name. But yeah, that's what's happening in many countries, and they're deliberately hindering those who have talent by asking them to pay money so that those who hinder them can get a share. Hopefully, people like that can be dealt with soon and removed from the association so that the country can get talented people who can give the best for their country.

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Hey guys, reading little story on Kylian Mbappe who on Thursday visited Cameroon on a charity with the deaf and other familiarization visit to his father's home town. He spoke with Joseph Dion Ngute, the Cameroon's Prime Minister, he was honoured visiting and I believe this is just like the humanitarian work some influential people do

But one striking revelation was that he would have been a cameroonian player if they weren't asking his father to pay them money before allowing him to play while he still trying to fix his career and French allowed him without payment.

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"At first, I wanted my son to play for Cameroon, but someone at the Cameroonian Football Federation charged me money that I didn't have to make him play," he explained. " The French charged nothing."

I have also heard of some local stories about how some coaches require money from new footballers before they allow them on trier both in their clubs and national teams. Is this happening globally for new players who are still seeking to find a spot in clubs?

Do you think Cameroun miss Mbappe or it is Mbappe that missed Cameroun ?

https://theafricanhistory.com/2975#:~:text=My%20father

That does not sound like it is an official fee. If anything, it sounds like pure bribery.

Such corruption can be found at any and all socioeconomic levels and it needs to be addressed clearly. I think one of the best ways is to make calling out corruption seem like a more honorable and rewarding experience, rather than being called a snitch.

Some of these players later become very famous and this makes their image their currency. The more dirt they throw on their own image, the worse their career will become. At some point, many players, despite being talented and having an amazing streak of good games, will find themselves at the bottom of their sports career. That really is the worst consequence of accepting dirty corruption money.

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August 03, 2023, 01:53:38 PM
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The more sad thing about this is that it became a tradition to almost every country, people who have talents in some sports should be helped so that they can give some help as well when they are already successful specially in Africa where not all are born leaders and talented. But the thing is, instead of helping them, they are charging them some ridiculous amounts just to be in a certain team and play to get the minutes. In the end, hatred will be passed on and not the other way around.
Even though that should not have happened because if people with talent in sports or other than that are assisted, it can trigger them to be able to give the best for their country. They will try hard because their country has allowed them to appear with their country's name. But yeah, that's what's happening in many countries, and they're deliberately hindering those who have talent by asking them to pay money so that those who hinder them can get a share. Hopefully, people like that can be dealt with soon and removed from the association so that the country can get talented people who can give the best for their country.

In many countries there are similar schemes when in order to advance in a career a person must pay a certain amount of money is quite usual practice, because corruption, politics also affects sports as well as all other spheres of our life. I heard that in my country even to be hired as a police officer in a good department, you have to pay money to the management. Otherwise you can spend your whole life working at the lowest position and patrolling the streets on foot. 

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August 03, 2023, 10:24:11 PM
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Hey guys, reading little story on Kylian Mbappe who on Thursday visited Cameroon on a charity with the deaf and other familiarization visit to his father's home town. He spoke with Joseph Dion Ngute, the Cameroon's Prime Minister, he was honoured visiting and I believe this is just like the humanitarian work some influential people do

But one striking revelation was that he would have been a cameroonian player if they weren't asking his father to pay them money before allowing him to play while he still trying to fix his career and French allowed him without payment.

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"At first, I wanted my son to play for Cameroon, but someone at the Cameroonian Football Federation charged me money that I didn't have to make him play," he explained. " The French charged nothing."

I have also heard of some local stories about how some coaches require money from new footballers before they allow them on trier both in their clubs and national teams. Is this happening globally for new players who are still seeking to find a spot in clubs?

Do you think Cameroun miss Mbappe or it is Mbappe that missed Cameroun ?

https://theafricanhistory.com/2975#:~:text=My%20father

That does not sound like it is an official fee. If anything, it sounds like pure bribery.

Such corruption can be found at any and all socioeconomic levels and it needs to be addressed clearly. I think one of the best ways is to make calling out corruption seem like a more honorable and rewarding experience, rather than being called a snitch.

Some of these players later become very famous and this makes their image their currency. The more dirt they throw on their own image, the worse their career will become. At some point, many players, despite being talented and having an amazing streak of good games, will find themselves at the bottom of their sports career. That really is the worst consequence of accepting dirty corruption money.
it's not even bribery cause it's not like the Mbappe's Dad's the one that's giving them the cash, this is pure roadside robbery extortion lols. They literally are asking you to do something for them first which in this case is pay them what I could only guess is a stupendous amount of money, before even allowing your kid to play. And the worst part is that you can't really do anything about it because the extortion mechanism is embedded within the social construct that we ourselves established. We made it so some people are higher than us in power, we forgot that not everyone could and would handle it with care and now we're dealing with the consequences of people abusing their power in the process. We can literally change people that are seated in these positions of power and extortion will keep up.

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August 04, 2023, 02:28:22 PM
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In many countries there are similar schemes when in order to advance in a career a person must pay a certain amount of money is quite usual practice, because corruption, politics also affects sports as well as all other spheres of our life. I heard that in my country even to be hired as a police officer in a good department, you have to pay money to the management. Otherwise you can spend your whole life working at the lowest position and patrolling the streets on foot. 
It has happened in many countries where to get promoted, one has to pay bribes to officials with higher positions. Otherwise, they will remain in their position until they retire unless there is a central person who really cares about his subordinates and can evaluate the performance of subordinate employees properly so that person can be promoted without having to pay bribes. Stories like that are no longer a secret because many already know about it. This case is never finished because it involves officials from the lowest to the highest levels. And if this also happens in sports, we won't be surprised because it also happens in other places.

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Well, FIFA is an Organization that is worldwide, each Country has its FIFA representatives to Verify that everything is OK, so it is clear that in the countries of the world there may be FIFA Officials that can go wrong, in addition, Money makes many sell whatever it takes to get a good Slice, here we all know that those from FIFA have always had their acts of corruption, that now they try to cover it up, well that's something else, that's so clear and scratchy time as if they were places for preschool children.

I'm not saying that FIFA is involved in acts of corruption, but sometimes we see games that wow it seems as if the referees and all the VAR were actually involved in something, because this type of thing like corruption is sometimes evident, it's as if they wanted a particular team to pass because it happened, despite having done things well, aside from that, it is not known how things are handled in big games, whether or not there is money involved, I am a very distrustful person, And I will always be wary of the acts they do, in fact if they change the VAR it would be great.

In the VAR, conversations no longer come out, if the referees see something that they think and say they are sure of what they saw, they will not even consult the VAR and that is unheard of, so they have played very good plays and because of the referees they do not sentence them as it should be, this is not what it should be, but of course, like things when there was the VAR that discredited everything that the main referee did, they filed the claim, and they approved it, now a central referee has all the power to decide what he sees, but they should make a clause that where it is seen that they stole the game, they should take away their licenses, so that they know that they should not cheat and it is the best option they have to continue preserving their reputation, personally I don't trust much in the decision of some FIFA bodies when it comes to local tournaments.

It's disheartening, really, to see the "beautiful game" clouded with such suspicions. Yes, money can sway opinions, and the higher the stakes, the more pervasive the problem seems

But let's consider the other side of the coin. Could it be that we, as fans, attribute too much of our teams' misfortunes to refereeing bias and corruption? Sport, at its core, is about unpredictability, and errors are a part of that. I agree VAR can seem flawed and arbitrary at times, but remember it's a system in its relative infancy. Growing pains are expected, aren't they?

As for your suggestion about stricter punitive measures for referees, it's not a half-bad idea! However, we must be cautious to avoid creating a culture of fear and paranoia among officials

I have also thought about all this, and I say, well, if there is a technology associated with this football thing, then what role do the referees play? everything would be more focused on the possible degenerations of the human being, but seeing that there is and that there is so much corruption in sport, that sometimes it is not shown because that type of news sometimes does not come to light, but those of us who know how it is football, we know when someone is stealing from us and that makes us even more angry, that's when we say that a robot would do it very well, and then based on that things can change and look like a more just world. And a referee who makes a mistake on purpose is the technology to denounce him and make him pay.

I only think of something, sometimes technology is there to help and minimize human errors, that whenever there is a bad decision by a referee, it is when the VAR has to give a warning to the referee, and if he obeys much better, it's their method of covering their ass, otherwise every game should always be audited by experts to see if the game was completely fair.

In sport there are obviously many things to improve and it can be achieved as long as things are required, I believe that in FIFA, as in any sport, there should be no case where an act that has to do with corruption is committed, here these sports are watched by children and if they set a bad example, what can we expect?

I like to emphasize soccer because it is the King sport, apart from that it is the sport that I like the most, contact sports are also my favorites, essentially because I have practiced them all my life, maybe that is where my taste for those comes from. sports, on the other hand with others like basketball, baseball, are not to my taste and that makes things that interest me change, I don't know how it is in the case of corruption if it exists or not in those sports, maybe yes, because that is a network that never breaks, there are always interests involved that are above sports, it is a pity, but it is the reality in which we live.


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August 05, 2023, 06:24:00 AM
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The more sad thing about this is that it became a tradition to almost every country, people who have talents in some sports should be helped so that they can give some help as well when they are already successful specially in Africa where not all are born leaders and talented. But the thing is, instead of helping them, they are charging them some ridiculous amounts just to be in a certain team and play to get the minutes. In the end, hatred will be passed on and not the other way around.
Even though that should not have happened because if people with talent in sports or other than that are assisted, it can trigger them to be able to give the best for their country. They will try hard because their country has allowed them to appear with their country's name. But yeah, that's what's happening in many countries, and they're deliberately hindering those who have talent by asking them to pay money so that those who hinder them can get a share. Hopefully, people like that can be dealt with soon and removed from the association so that the country can get talented people who can give the best for their country.
Things like these can barely vanish forever, even if the current people are found, punished, removed from their positions, and new people are hired in their place, someday in the future, the same thing will start happening again because greed doesn't leave human at all, and it's only some people who can actually control their greed but those who see they have some power and can do certain things, they will barely have any control and they do things like these.

And they don't really care about their country at all, all they care about is their own selves and their bank balance, so they don't think it through that if they reject a good player, that player might go to another country and play from there and become a precious asset for that country which could happen with their own country but only didn't because some scoundrel wanted to get money out of him.

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August 05, 2023, 12:30:26 PM
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Things like these can barely vanish forever, even if the current people are found, punished, removed from their positions, and new people are hired in their place, someday in the future, the same thing will start happening again because greed doesn't leave human at all, and it's only some people who can actually control their greed but those who see they have some power and can do certain things, they will barely have any control and they do things like these.

And they don't really care about their country at all, all they care about is their own selves and their bank balance, so they don't think it through that if they reject a good player, that player might go to another country and play from there and become a precious asset for that country which could happen with their own country but only didn't because some scoundrel wanted to get money out of him.
That's because everything is too deep-rooted and done long ago. This can only be done if there is a total overhaul of the association from the bottom to the highest and all are replaced by new employees who are experienced in their respective fields. But even so, there is still an opportunity to do that because corruption and illegal things cannot be eliminated easily.

They only think about how they can get much money from doing that. Even if they can accept talented players, they will also receive prizes not only from the government but also from the community will give something to them. Apart from that, the players who got the chance to play will not forget their services for having chosen them to join the team that defended their country.

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August 05, 2023, 12:47:53 PM
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In many countries there are similar schemes when in order to advance in a career a person must pay a certain amount of money is quite usual practice, because corruption, politics also affects sports as well as all other spheres of our life. I heard that in my country even to be hired as a police officer in a good department, you have to pay money to the management. Otherwise you can spend your whole life working at the lowest position and patrolling the streets on foot. 
It has happened in many countries where to get promoted, one has to pay bribes to officials with higher positions. Otherwise, they will remain in their position until they retire unless there is a central person who really cares about his subordinates and can evaluate the performance of subordinate employees properly so that person can be promoted without having to pay bribes. Stories like that are no longer a secret because many already know about it. This case is never finished because it involves officials from the lowest to the highest levels. And if this also happens in sports, we won't be surprised because it also happens in other places.
This is happening throughout the world. Very few use their power in the right way and give respect whereas the majority are arrogant and corrupt. To overcome all the political and other discrimination is really big pressure for the players. When the senior official is corrupt, it means the selection won't happen in the right way and the wrong person will get opportunity to represent the team/club/nation or whatever. With each and everyonen this money will be collected and shared among them on different proportions. Another form of corruption that is happening around is the Nepotism. All this needs to change and the able one need to be chosen.

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August 05, 2023, 01:34:12 PM
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An interesting story and I think that there is nothing new here - this is the norm for backward corrupted countries. Involvement in the national team of the country can give a good boost to the career of a young player, so this opportunity is monetized in backward countries. Many talented football players because of this do not have the opportunity to show themselves. It's good that in the case of Mbappe, everything turned out in favor of the player.

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August 05, 2023, 02:15:46 PM
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That's because everything is too deep-rooted and done long ago. This can only be done if there is a total overhaul of the association from the bottom to the highest and all are replaced by new employees who are experienced in their respective fields. But even so, there is still an opportunity to do that because corruption and illegal things cannot be eliminated easily.

They only think about how they can get much money from doing that. Even if they can accept talented players, they will also receive prizes not only from the government but also from the community will give something to them. Apart from that, the players who got the chance to play will not forget their services for having chosen them to join the team that defended their country.
Its obvious that you're troubled by some long-standing, core issues, man. You see a thorough demolition and reconstruction as your only option. Major changes, new personnel, and reorganised policies. Yes, I do recognise that... but does that truly address the issue at hand?

Just imagine we've done a complete 180 and decided to start again with a whole new team. But who's to say we wont end up creating entirely new issues? Not to mention all the wrongdoing? Difficult to squish. Its a lot of work, man. There is no easy way out of this predicament.

What about the athletes being showered with praise and rewards? Everyone appreciates being recognised for a job well done, right? We'd all like to get a little something, right? But again, thats not where the trouble lies, is it?

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August 10, 2023, 02:32:13 AM
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An interesting story and I think that there is nothing new here - this is the norm for backward corrupted countries. Involvement in the national team of the country can give a good boost to the career of a young player, so this opportunity is monetized in backward countries. Many talented football players because of this do not have the opportunity to show themselves. It's good that in the case of Mbappe, everything turned out in favor of the player.
It is true that was the way playing for a national team was seen on the past, but I think that slowly this is changing, soccer players are realizing that they are basically playing for free while their national soccer associations are getting rich through their hard work, and now there are many players that are not happy with this.

So it would not surprise me if during the next years we saw a change of posture by some players and simply they decided to disregard their national team and instead concentrate themselves on their clubs, after all they are the ones that actually pay them and it is their performance there that can actually get them a better pay down the line.
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August 10, 2023, 03:00:46 AM
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There are lot of players who are talented. But not all players are lucky. You have to be talented as well as lucky to play for the big teams. Only 11 players can play in a team, but there are plenty of talented players, so all cannot make into the team. This advantage is being taken by the coaches or the player hiring team. They ask for money in order to select the player to play in the team. This happening with almost all types of games. Sad thing we can’t do anything about it. Now regarding Mbappe story, then yes the club which asked him money made the losses by not selecting him on the basis of his skills.

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August 10, 2023, 10:04:23 AM
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This is happening throughout the world. Very few use their power in the right way and give respect whereas the majority are arrogant and corrupt. To overcome all the political and other discrimination is really big pressure for the players. When the senior official is corrupt, it means the selection won't happen in the right way and the wrong person will get opportunity to represent the team/club/nation or whatever. With each and everyonen this money will be collected and shared among them on different proportions. Another form of corruption that is happening around is the Nepotism. All this needs to change and the able one need to be chosen.
That causes a lack of opportunities for talented people who should be able to give the best for their country. They are always hindered by the complicated bureaucracy and money matters that must exist to get help from people who have power in their fields, in this case, in sports. Those corrupt senior officials can also easily abuse their power for their own interests without fear of being punished because they are protected by officers who have higher powers. This is difficult to eradicate because it has become a habit, so changing it requires many things, including having more honest officers.

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Its obvious that you're troubled by some long-standing, core issues, man. You see a thorough demolition and reconstruction as your only option. Major changes, new personnel, and reorganised policies. Yes, I do recognise that... but does that truly address the issue at hand?

Just imagine we've done a complete 180 and decided to start again with a whole new team. But who's to say we wont end up creating entirely new issues? Not to mention all the wrongdoing? Difficult to squish. Its a lot of work, man. There is no easy way out of this predicament.

What about the athletes being showered with praise and rewards? Everyone appreciates being recognised for a job well done, right? We'd all like to get a little something, right? But again, thats not where the trouble lies, is it?
Indeed, that is not where the problem lies because solving the problem requires a lot of effort and will. Meanwhile, we have lost more talented people in many fields, which has caused many of these fields not to be more advanced than before.

This is indeed too difficult to resolve because it involves many interests behind it, so, likely, this will still be around for the next few years. At least until those in power retire, but if the same people replace them with the same will as the previous ones, this will always be ongoing.

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August 10, 2023, 11:47:18 AM
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There are lot of players who are talented. But not all players are lucky. You have to be talented as well as lucky to play for the big teams. Only 11 players can play in a team, but there are plenty of talented players, so all cannot make into the team. This advantage is being taken by the coaches or the player hiring team. They ask for money in order to select the player to play in the team. This happening with almost all types of games. Sad thing we can’t do anything about it. Now regarding Mbappe story, then yes the club which asked him money made the losses by not selecting him on the basis of his skills.
But when a really great player becomes a core player and can provide a great opportunity for a club to win a match, then there is no need for bribes to be able to play because the coach will definitely put him in the position he plays so can end the match with a win.
Even though there are several clubs that do things like that to be able to play their players, not all of them and big clubs certainly won't do something like that because what big clubs achieve is not about money but wins and titles.

Speaking of bad luck, Mbappe actually didn't play for a while of the problems that happened, so we can't say it's a financial problem.

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August 14, 2023, 01:11:49 PM
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An interesting story and I think that there is nothing new here - this is the norm for backward corrupted countries. Involvement in the national team of the country can give a good boost to the career of a young player, so this opportunity is monetized in backward countries. Many talented football players because of this do not have the opportunity to show themselves. It's good that in the case of Mbappe, everything turned out in favor of the player.
It's not really a loss for the player as they are surely going to reach somewhere no one would have imagined if they are talented and has enough dedication towards their passion, but it's definitely a loss for that country and that nation because if such things don't happen, they would have a lot of talented people in their national teams instead of those who are added by reference of people in power, and this doesn't happen only in football but in every single sport.

I know a lot of people from my home town who are cricketers and they have been playing for years and are extremely talented. They say that they went for trials for getting into the national team, and they passed the tests taken by the experts, but later they were asked to pay money which they couldn't do so they were rejected.

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Things like these can barely vanish forever, even if the current people are found, punished, removed from their positions, and new people are hired in their place, someday in the future, the same thing will start happening again because greed doesn't leave human at all, and it's only some people who can actually control their greed but those who see they have some power and can do certain things, they will barely have any control and they do things like these.

And they don't really care about their country at all, all they care about is their own selves and their bank balance, so they don't think it through that if they reject a good player, that player might go to another country and play from there and become a precious asset for that country which could happen with their own country but only didn't because some scoundrel wanted to get money out of him.
That's because everything is too deep-rooted and done long ago. This can only be done if there is a total overhaul of the association from the bottom to the highest and all are replaced by new employees who are experienced in their respective fields. But even so, there is still an opportunity to do that because corruption and illegal things cannot be eliminated easily.

They only think about how they can get much money from doing that. Even if they can accept talented players, they will also receive prizes not only from the government but also from the community will give something to them. Apart from that, the players who got the chance to play will not forget their services for having chosen them to join the team that defended their country.
Corruption is always present in every aspect, also inseparable from the world of sports. This is often encountered and cannot be avoided where people who have skills and abilities lose to people who have money. It's also been rooted a long time ago, so it's very hard to get rid of. So it's true as you said to overcome this problem by carrying out a major overhaul from the ground up to clean up corrupt people and close the loopholes for corruption.

It is this reputation that causes everyone to want to be at the highest peak in football so that they justify any means to achieve it, including by committing acts of corruption. So this can hinder people who are talented in soccer but don't have enough money to get into it.

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August 14, 2023, 01:51:17 PM
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Corruption is always present in every aspect, also inseparable from the world of sports. This is often encountered and cannot be avoided where people who have skills and abilities lose to people who have money. It's also been rooted a long time ago, so it's very hard to get rid of. So it's true as you said to overcome this problem by carrying out a major overhaul from the ground up to clean up corrupt people and close the loopholes for corruption.

It is this reputation that causes everyone to want to be at the highest peak in football so that they justify any means to achieve it, including by committing acts of corruption. So this can hinder people who are talented in soccer but don't have enough money to get into it.
I believe in this case of Mbappé, corruption didn't have a negative consequence after all, at least for him and for France national soccer. The negative impact felt entirely over the corrupt agent who tried to get money from Mbappé's father, consequently losing the best soccer player Cameroon could have on its currently generation of athletes. It was totally deserved and there is nothing to complain about it.

I would feel troubled about the case only if the action of the corrupt agent had stopped Mbappé from reaching further on his career. Thankfully that is not the case.

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August 14, 2023, 04:46:36 PM
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Corruption is always present in every aspect, also inseparable from the world of sports. This is often encountered and cannot be avoided where people who have skills and abilities lose to people who have money. It's also been rooted a long time ago, so it's very hard to get rid of. So it's true as you said to overcome this problem by carrying out a major overhaul from the ground up to clean up corrupt people and close the loopholes for corruption.

It is this reputation that causes everyone to want to be at the highest peak in football so that they justify any means to achieve it, including by committing acts of corruption. So this can hinder people who are talented in soccer but don't have enough money to get into it.
That's why we may often witness someone talented lose the opportunity to show his talent to the people of his country. And this makes those talented people look elsewhere and move to another country where there is more respect for his talent he can do it. And when that happens, the country has lost a valuable asset that the country should be proud of.

Corruption is a long-standing problem in many countries and is difficult to eradicate. Moreover, this corruption occurs from the lowest level to the top. When there are organizations that want to uncover corruption cases, they will stop because there is a strong hand protecting people who commit corruption. This dilemma will probably continue for all time and is difficult to eradicate.

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August 14, 2023, 06:55:49 PM
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That's why we may often witness someone talented lose the opportunity to show his talent to the people of his country. And this makes those talented people look elsewhere and move to another country where there is more respect for his talent he can do it. And when that happens, the country has lost a valuable asset that the country should be proud of.

Corruption is a long-standing problem in many countries and is difficult to eradicate. Moreover, this corruption occurs from the lowest level to the top. When there are organizations that want to uncover corruption cases, they will stop because there is a strong hand protecting people who commit corruption. This dilemma will probably continue for all time and is difficult to eradicate.

The football is the short game,the player will get retired before the age of 32 mostly.So the most of the good players get into the bribe to fix the game,they also allow the corruption.Once the player was found guilty and he had a chance of penalty of some years of no matches with some money as fine.The country itself start to hurt the player after he found in the fixing.Mostly the head of board will fire him without announcing to the media.This is to help the player to get away with no red hand and for the safety of committee name.The level of the corruption was in all the level of the team.Even some coach or manager get corrupted by selecting the team for the match and it was worst part of the football match fixing.
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August 15, 2023, 01:10:48 PM
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The football is the short game,the player will get retired before the age of 32 mostly.So the most of the good players get into the bribe to fix the game,they also allow the corruption.Once the player was found guilty and he had a chance of penalty of some years of no matches with some money as fine.The country itself start to hurt the player after he found in the fixing.Mostly the head of board will fire him without announcing to the media.This is to help the player to get away with no red hand and for the safety of committee name.The level of the corruption was in all the level of the team.Even some coach or manager get corrupted by selecting the team for the match and it was worst part of the football match fixing.
And that's what happens in a sport that has people who are corrupt, including in determining who can join the association. They are the ones who decide, and the players allowed to play have to pay a certain amount to become a player in their country's team. This shouldn't be happening because it would take away the opportunity for talented players who don't have the money to get into the team. It is difficult to eradicate people who have abused their power just for the sake of money, which is the people's money. Such people should be severely punished and not allowed to hold any power anymore and may have to be jailed for some time.

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August 15, 2023, 05:11:26 PM
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Corruption is always present in every aspect, also inseparable from the world of sports. This is often encountered and cannot be avoided where people who have skills and abilities lose to people who have money. It's also been rooted a long time ago, so it's very hard to get rid of. So it's true as you said to overcome this problem by carrying out a major overhaul from the ground up to clean up corrupt people and close the loopholes for corruption.

It is this reputation that causes everyone to want to be at the highest peak in football so that they justify any means to achieve it, including by committing acts of corruption. So this can hinder people who are talented in soccer but don't have enough money to get into it.
I believe in this case of Mbappé, corruption didn't have a negative consequence after all, at least for him and for France national soccer. The negative impact felt entirely over the corrupt agent who tried to get money from Mbappé's father, consequently losing the best soccer player Cameroon could have on its currently generation of athletes. It was totally deserved and there is nothing to complain about it.

I would feel troubled about the case only if the action of the corrupt agent had stopped Mbappé from reaching further on his career. Thankfully that is not the case.
Even so, the act of corruption is still wrong and must be avoided and cannot be justified for whatever reason.

That's why we may often witness someone talented lose the opportunity to show his talent to the people of his country. And this makes those talented people look elsewhere and move to another country where there is more respect for his talent he can do it. And when that happens, the country has lost a valuable asset that the country should be proud of.

Corruption is a long-standing problem in many countries and is difficult to eradicate. Moreover, this corruption occurs from the lowest level to the top. When there are organizations that want to uncover corruption cases, they will stop because there is a strong hand protecting people who commit corruption. This dilemma will probably continue for all time and is difficult to eradicate.
Yes... that's how someone will live in a place where he can be respected. And changing nationality is not a bad decision rather than having to bury the ideals that he dreamed of long ago. And a country losing a talented athlete is a consequence that must be accepted because the government in that country is unable to eradicate corruption.

There are sympathizers of mass organizations who reveal and shout about corruption cases, most of them do not last long not only because there is a strong hand in front of them but they also become silent when they are given some money. Like dogs that bark and when given a bone by their master they will be silent. Corruption is too strong and deep-rooted to be difficult to eradicate.

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August 16, 2023, 12:46:22 AM
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And that's what happens in a sport that has people who are corrupt, including in determining who can join the association. They are the ones who decide, and the players allowed to play have to pay a certain amount to become a player in their country's team. This shouldn't be happening because it would take away the opportunity for talented players who don't have the money to get into the team. It is difficult to eradicate people who have abused their power just for the sake of money, which is the people's money. Such people should be severely punished and not allowed to hold any power anymore and may have to be jailed for some time.
That is how it should be but unfortunately this is very rarely the case, and this is because FIFA wants to silence all of those incidents as soon as they happen, the only reason they could not do so here is because we are talking about the player that is probably at the top of soccer at the moment.

However just like this story there should be tens of thousands all over the world, and those players either did not had the courage to come forward or they were bribed on return by FIFA so they never talked about their experiences.
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August 16, 2023, 11:38:16 AM
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Yes... that's how someone will live in a place where he can be respected. And changing nationality is not a bad decision rather than having to bury the ideals that he dreamed of long ago. And a country losing a talented athlete is a consequence that must be accepted because the government in that country is unable to eradicate corruption.

There are sympathizers of mass organizations who reveal and shout about corruption cases, most of them do not last long not only because there is a strong hand in front of them but they also become silent when they are given some money. Like dogs that bark and when given a bone by their master they will be silent. Corruption is too strong and deep-rooted to be difficult to eradicate.
It is better to change nationality, which can further support him in developing his talent than to stay in his country where he cannot develop his talent. This is not a bad thing to do, and if anyone questions him, he can tell the truth that someone asked him for money when he wanted to join his country's national team. It would become a hot news topic in his country, and the people who cared about him would look for those who had tried to blackmail him.

But we know corruption is deeply rooted in the government, making it difficult to eradicate. And we can only let it be like that because we are sure of their power. And even though they are retired, they are still not touched by the law because their other friends protect them.

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That is how it should be but unfortunately this is very rarely the case, and this is because FIFA wants to silence all of those incidents as soon as they happen, the only reason they could not do so here is because we are talking about the player that is probably at the top of soccer at the moment.

However just like this story there should be tens of thousands all over the world, and those players either did not had the courage to come forward or they were bribed on return by FIFA so they never talked about their experiences.
Obviously, those who did that wouldn't let this go public because that could widen the investigation against them and put them in danger. Those players didn't dare to go against people who had more power than those who were just players or ordinary citizens who didn't have any power. But they may have the option of moving to another country that is more supportive of their career so that they can play in another country's national team after changing citizenship. Yes, this story may have been around for a long time, but because of the many obstacles preventing it from being released to the public, people needed to learn more about it. Even the government doesn't give much appreciation to athletes who have contributed a lot to bring their country's name to international matches but just let it go when the athlete has retired from sports.

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August 16, 2023, 12:12:47 PM
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And that's what happens in a sport that has people who are corrupt, including in determining who can join the association. They are the ones who decide, and the players allowed to play have to pay a certain amount to become a player in their country's team. This shouldn't be happening because it would take away the opportunity for talented players who don't have the money to get into the team. It is difficult to eradicate people who have abused their power just for the sake of money, which is the people's money. Such people should be severely punished and not allowed to hold any power anymore and may have to be jailed for some time.
That is how it should be but unfortunately this is very rarely the case, and this is because FIFA wants to silence all of those incidents as soon as they happen, the only reason they could not do so here is because we are talking about the player that is probably at the top of soccer at the moment.

However just like this story there should be tens of thousands all over the world, and those players either did not had the courage to come forward or they were bribed on return by FIFA so they never talked about their experiences.

If they goes silent and let this corruption still happening on their team then this anomaly will not stop then continue to happen to other players. But if someone will step up to put an end on this illegal activities then for sure this will be eliminated easily knowing that to many media outlets are seeking for big scoop and might this will be a good story for them to expose then penalize those officials who will do such corruptions on their teams. This is really a rare case and so far I didn't see any cases or featured by mainstream media about this issue, so maybe this is commonly happen on unpopular leagues.

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August 17, 2023, 11:26:31 AM
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And that's what happens in a sport that has people who are corrupt, including in determining who can join the association. They are the ones who decide, and the players allowed to play have to pay a certain amount to become a player in their country's team. This shouldn't be happening because it would take away the opportunity for talented players who don't have the money to get into the team. It is difficult to eradicate people who have abused their power just for the sake of money, which is the people's money. Such people should be severely punished and not allowed to hold any power anymore and may have to be jailed for some time.
That is how it should be but unfortunately this is very rarely the case, and this is because FIFA wants to silence all of those incidents as soon as they happen, the only reason they could not do so here is because we are talking about the player that is probably at the top of soccer at the moment.

However just like this story there should be tens of thousands all over the world, and those players either did not had the courage to come forward or they were bribed on return by FIFA so they never talked about their experiences.
It's not only about a single foundation or an organization but it happens in almost every sport all around the world which is very unfortunate but there is nothing that can be done as long as the government of a country doesn't take any action against such organizations and remove those who are corrupt to the core and are becoming the reason for talented players leaving the country only for the sake of playing the game they love playing and wants to play on a big stage.

You can often find people from different countries playing for other countries, there can only be two reasons for that, either they have migrated to that country and then joined the game or they moved to another country just because they were not getting any opportunities in their own country.

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August 20, 2023, 04:42:34 PM
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And that's what happens in a sport that has people who are corrupt, including in determining who can join the association. They are the ones who decide, and the players allowed to play have to pay a certain amount to become a player in their country's team. This shouldn't be happening because it would take away the opportunity for talented players who don't have the money to get into the team. It is difficult to eradicate people who have abused their power just for the sake of money, which is the people's money. Such people should be severely punished and not allowed to hold any power anymore and may have to be jailed for some time.
That is how it should be but unfortunately this is very rarely the case, and this is because FIFA wants to silence all of those incidents as soon as they happen, the only reason they could not do so here is because we are talking about the player that is probably at the top of soccer at the moment.

However just like this story there should be tens of thousands all over the world, and those players either did not had the courage to come forward or they were bribed on return by FIFA so they never talked about their experiences.

If they goes silent and let this corruption still happening on their team then this anomaly will not stop then continue to happen to other players. But if someone will step up to put an end on this illegal activities then for sure this will be eliminated easily knowing that to many media outlets are seeking for big scoop and might this will be a good story for them to expose then penalize those officials who will do such corruptions on their teams. This is really a rare case and so far I didn't see any cases or featured by mainstream media about this issue, so maybe this is commonly happen on unpopular leagues.

It is always good to leave for the best of things, in a country where the authorities have good honesty and good ethics it is possible to do it, in third world countries things look different, those who do this type of act are generally The big mafias and those mafias with their money are capable of buying anyone, and the mechanism they use is the threat, a player who is told that he has to accept a certain amount of money, but who makes his team lose or win or whatever, and if they refuse, well, they will kill all their family and friends little by little and they will see how it is fulfilled, the player being the last, that is a chaos that happens a lot, at least in Colombia I know that It is like this, for example, the case of a Colombian defensive player when he was in the USA1994 World Cup, the player scored an own goal and that made Colombia lose, after that Colombia was eliminated and they left the World Cup, then the players arrived. to Colombia, the player did not last very long, because they searched for him and killed him, it is said that it was the mafia, perhaps the men who were in charge after Pablo Escobar, everything points to that type of Mafias.

So sometimes in Fútbol the Mafias in the third world of Dfucino are like this, that's why when they play in the local leagues it's something dangerous, because the good bets move at a high level and there's a lot of money , and well that's where All these Dangers will enter, in which a Player is always from these parts of the world, because he always looks for a player to play in Europe , which is where there is more security and tranquility, and the players from here on these sides always look to live in Europe or USA where it is more difficult for these organisms to reach, however they have a lot of intelligence, counterintelligence, all that is what they do, for that Reason it is sometimes difficult to denounce the authorities, I do not know how this type of thing is handled in Europe I don't know who will be worse, but here is just a sample , that's why being a professional footballer here you have to deal with those things.


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August 20, 2023, 07:18:06 PM
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There are lot of players who are talented. But not all players are lucky. You have to be talented as well as lucky to play for the big teams. Only 11 players can play in a team, but there are plenty of talented players, so all cannot make into the team. This advantage is being taken by the coaches or the player hiring team. They ask for money in order to select the player to play in the team. This happening with almost all types of games. Sad thing we can’t do anything about it. Now regarding Mbappe story, then yes the club which asked him money made the losses by not selecting him on the basis of his skills.
Exactly what I said. People are assuming the good in everyone as if they aren't capable of doing shitty things. I've had a little interaction with someone within this thread about it too, saying that I shouldn't assume this happens in other sports cause no confirmation was made, when this couldn't be farther from the truth. The fact that people are capable of red-taping sports and giving other people unequal advantage over money is enough of an evidence to assume that this is something that happens with every sports.

Anywho, you're right, you also have to be really lucky if you want to make it into competitive athleticism especially football. Everyone can kick the ball into the net. Everyone can be talented at it, but only a lucky few would be given the chance to get paid millions of dollars for kicking it.

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That is how you lose on a great player like Mbappe when you are a corrupted country like Cameroon and many other African countries lose such star players exactly because of the same reason.Also in many other third countries in the world the same is happening and I think these type of interviews should have much wider visibility so those people who asked for money would be seeing how big these players become and stop doing it.I know that it is much more difficult to achieve because we are talking about poor countries but these poor countries should start to think bigger for themselves.It would be nice to see such a player playing for Cameroon,not that I don't like seeing him play with France.

Yeah this type of stories happen in third world countries and they lose valuable players who want to give all to the club or national team. The thread is bad. When you place money first in whatever you want to do then the best will elude you. This is appalling and the reason that third world countries struggle in football especially countries from Africa.

Those at the tops only care about their own immediate financial benefit and not care where the player gets to tomorrow with the myopic thinking that they have benefited from the player. I will still blame the government when it comes to corruption.
Yes. Whatever the attitude of these coaches, it will still reflect back on what type of government does this country had. The corruption is worst that will eventually lead to the deprivation of opportunities for some great players to be part of the team which for me is a sad reality. Not just in football but I also think this is also true with  some ball games. If you can’t give a bribe in the first place, maybe you will lost your slot in no time. And obviously, the team will also lose promising players in return.

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August 20, 2023, 10:33:16 PM
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Unfortunately that happens in world three countries, I didn’t hear stories but i witnessed that one of my family members that player two years for our local football team in third division, when it was time to join Senior team as he was so talented the coach and team responsables asked him to pay some large money to allow him join otherwise they won’t. So I’m very sure that this thing of bribing actually exists everywhere in our countries and that’s why it’s very possible for what happened to Mbapee.
I imagine how many talented players got disappointed and stopped their careers because of this. Since i noticed that foreign player from our country are more successful than here. For example Karim Benzema, Zinedine Zidane and more players from my region wouldn’t get as successful as if they stayed here.

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August 22, 2023, 01:03:27 AM
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Unfortunately that happens in world three countries, I didn’t hear stories but i witnessed that one of my family members that player two years for our local football team in third division, when it was time to join Senior team as he was so talented the coach and team responsables asked him to pay some large money to allow him join otherwise they won’t. So I’m very sure that this thing of bribing actually exists everywhere in our countries and that’s why it’s very possible for what happened to Mbapee.
I imagine how many talented players got disappointed and stopped their careers because of this. Since i noticed that foreign player from our country are more successful than here. For example Karim Benzema, Zinedine Zidane and more players from my region wouldn’t get as successful as if they stayed here.
What those people fail to realize is that due to their shortsightedness not only they affect many young talented players, they even affect themselves.

If those talented players were allowed to continue their natural development not only this will increase the overall level of their national team and their local league, this will also bring a lot of investment from inside and outside the country and they will be the first beneficiaries, as they could claim that success as their own, but they are so concentrated on just getting a slice of a small cake they do not realize they could get much more by simply doing nothing.
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August 23, 2023, 01:45:02 PM
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Unfortunately that happens in world three countries, I didn’t hear stories but i witnessed that one of my family members that player two years for our local football team in third division, when it was time to join Senior team as he was so talented the coach and team responsables asked him to pay some large money to allow him join otherwise they won’t. So I’m very sure that this thing of bribing actually exists everywhere in our countries and that’s why it’s very possible for what happened to Mbapee.
I imagine how many talented players got disappointed and stopped their careers because of this. Since i noticed that foreign player from our country are more successful than here. For example Karim Benzema, Zinedine Zidane and more players from my region wouldn’t get as successful as if they stayed here.
What those people fail to realize is that due to their shortsightedness not only they affect many young talented players, they even affect themselves.

If those talented players were allowed to continue their natural development not only this will increase the overall level of their national team and their local league, this will also bring a lot of investment from inside and outside the country and they will be the first beneficiaries, as they could claim that success as their own, but they are so concentrated on just getting a slice of a small cake they do not realize they could get much more by simply doing nothing.

I definitely agree with you about it. What they are doing is they are already underestimating the newly sprouts that could make their team proud someday and instead of giving them the support and guidance that they needed to mold them and showcase what they are made of or what could they bring for the team, unfortunately, a short change is what they've got. And again, corruption is eating the industry that is why people aren't that convinced because they know what is happening behind the scenes even if they don't have any evidence for it.

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August 23, 2023, 06:19:57 PM
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I have also heard of some local stories about how some coaches require money from new footballers before they allow them on trier both in their clubs and national teams. Is this happening globally for new players who are still seeking to find a spot in clubs?


It seems, cases like what you said could happen all over the world. however, usually most of these things happen in developing countries. I have another story, there are several local football academies in my country doing almost the same thing as happened in the case you said in this thread. one concrete example, in a football academy there will always be youth players who have talent with great potential to develop. but because they don't have the finances, or in other words don't give compensation money to coaches, managers or staff, the boy player won't be recommended to the first team if he doesn't have something to offer.

Well, there is a difference for the mediocre youth player. with the money his parents had, he was able to enter the main squad even though his talent was mediocre. that's why football in my country has been slow to develop. also, some other technical and non-technical problems.
however the case I am telling you about happened roughly a decade ago, and I hope the current system has changed and each academies highlight and prioritize players who do have talent. referring to what you said, what's happening is not only in Cameroon. maybe, practices like this still exist especially in developing countries.

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August 23, 2023, 08:47:18 PM
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[....]Do you think Cameroun miss Mbappe or it is Mbappe that missed Cameroun ?
The answer should be obvious.
Mbappe also said Cameroon was calling and giving him citizenship so....

I thought maybe some fake representative is trying to scam them but doesn't seem to be the case. I cannot find any article where officials from the Cameroon Football Federation denying the allegations so it's probably true.
I think this is just a normal charity trip from mbappe, he doesn't miss Cameroon at all, last July, mbappe played in Cameroon's Vent d'Etoudi team and then news like this spread.

Talking about whether new players have to pay bribes to be able to play is actually no longer a secret anymore.  In developing countries, the country's football federations are still prone to corruption and collusion.  Even if you have good talent playing football, they will only allow people with strong families, who played.  fortunately mbappe did not stay in cameroon, he went to france where his life changed drastically and he became a big paid footballer, all that was his way and mbappe was very lucky to find the best path for his future.

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August 25, 2023, 08:13:51 AM
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I definitely agree with you about it. What they are doing is they are already underestimating the newly sprouts that could make their team proud someday and instead of giving them the support and guidance that they needed to mold them and showcase what they are made of or what could they bring for the team, unfortunately, a short change is what they've got. And again, corruption is eating the industry that is why people aren't that convinced because they know what is happening behind the scenes even if they don't have any evidence for it.
They will not see that these new shoots can give the best for their country because they have moved to another country that values their abilities and talents more. The pride is not for the country but for players who have that talent because they have been given the opportunity to present their best to other countries and not their country. If those people can put aside the corruption problem to recruit players with better talents, their country will get more awards and it will have a positive effect on the country because it will open investment opportunities to enter all fields of business.

The general public will not be able to prove matters related to corruption because there is an invisible game of hands by the authorities to protect those who commit corruption. If they showed evidence, they would be in trouble. If that happened, more people would be in trouble too. This corruption has been going on for a long time and is difficult to eradicate.

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August 25, 2023, 04:25:13 PM
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I definitely agree with you about it. What they are doing is they are already underestimating the newly sprouts that could make their team proud someday and instead of giving them the support and guidance that they needed to mold them and showcase what they are made of or what could they bring for the team, unfortunately, a short change is what they've got. And again, corruption is eating the industry that is why people aren't that convinced because they know what is happening behind the scenes even if they don't have any evidence for it.
They will not see that these new shoots can give the best for their country because they have moved to another country that values their abilities and talents more. The pride is not for the country but for players who have that talent because they have been given the opportunity to present their best to other countries and not their country. If those people can put aside the corruption problem to recruit players with better talents, their country will get more awards and it will have a positive effect on the country because it will open investment opportunities to enter all fields of business.

The general public will not be able to prove matters related to corruption because there is an invisible game of hands by the authorities to protect those who commit corruption. If they showed evidence, they would be in trouble. If that happened, more people would be in trouble too. This corruption has been going on for a long time and is difficult to eradicate.
When skill in a nation is undervalued, its citizens will inevitably look for better opportunities outside. Whence would they not? A true shame, that. But believe me when I say that if there's one thing I can do, it's identify talent. And when talented people leave your nation to prosper abroad, that's a hugely lost opportunity

The part about corruption? A complete loss. It's comparable to placing a large wager on a hand that you may have won rather than lost. The people are getting a raw deal if the government are really hiding things and engaging in these "invisible games," as you put it. I understand that combating corruption is difficult, but you can't just ignore it and hope for the best. Honesty is a right, and individuals in positions of authority should act in the best interests of the people, not their own

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August 26, 2023, 06:47:38 AM
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When skill in a nation is undervalued, its citizens will inevitably look for better opportunities outside. Whence would they not? A true shame, that. But believe me when I say that if there's one thing I can do, it's identify talent. And when talented people leave your nation to prosper abroad, that's a hugely lost opportunity

The part about corruption? A complete loss. It's comparable to placing a large wager on a hand that you may have won rather than lost. The people are getting a raw deal if the government are really hiding things and engaging in these "invisible games," as you put it. I understand that combating corruption is difficult, but you can't just ignore it and hope for the best. Honesty is a right, and individuals in positions of authority should act in the best interests of the people, not their own
The country will lose more talented people who should be able to provide the best for the country. But if everything doesn't work because there are still people who want to find opportunities to earn money, even from people who don't have money but have talent, the country will regret it because talented people aren't easy to find. Meanwhile, their country already has many talented people but instead, it is being wasted by those corrupt people.

Because of corruption by irresponsible officials, the country has finally lost talented people who should be able to work and provide something that can elevate their country to be on par with other countries. And yes, eradicating corruption is a difficult thing to do because there are already many officials who have committed corruption, making it difficult to trace them. And if more and more talented people move to other countries because irresponsible officials belittle them, it is a fatal mistake made by those officials so they should be dismissed from their positions and not allowed to do anything close.

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August 26, 2023, 11:33:49 AM
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When skill in a nation is undervalued, its citizens will inevitably look for better opportunities outside. Whence would they not? A true shame, that. But believe me when I say that if there's one thing I can do, it's identify talent. And when talented people leave your nation to prosper abroad, that's a hugely lost opportunity

The part about corruption? A complete loss. It's comparable to placing a large wager on a hand that you may have won rather than lost. The people are getting a raw deal if the government are really hiding things and engaging in these "invisible games," as you put it. I understand that combating corruption is difficult, but you can't just ignore it and hope for the best. Honesty is a right, and individuals in positions of authority should act in the best interests of the people, not their own
The country will lose more talented people who should be able to provide the best for the country. But if everything doesn't work because there are still people who want to find opportunities to earn money, even from people who don't have money but have talent, the country will regret it because talented people aren't easy to find. Meanwhile, their country already has many talented people but instead, it is being wasted by those corrupt people.

Because of corruption by irresponsible officials, the country has finally lost talented people who should be able to work and provide something that can elevate their country to be on par with other countries. And yes, eradicating corruption is a difficult thing to do because there are already many officials who have committed corruption, making it difficult to trace them. And if more and more talented people move to other countries because irresponsible officials belittle them, it is a fatal mistake made by those officials so they should be dismissed from their positions and not allowed to do anything close.
I've seen corruption's effects on nations. I've seen talent, dreams, and hope wasted. A shame, I tell you. The smartest and brightest of a country must look elsewhere when dishonest authorities waste their potential. That's a response to a failed system, not a decision

Talented people are rare, not numbers. You lose more than potential; you lose the essence of what makes a nation great. It's like a high-stakes poker game when a few cheaters fold the country's winning hand

Eradicating corruption requires more than just finding dishonest people. Trust must be rebuilt. I've always thought that to make a significant difference, you must lead by example. Those officials should go, and we should honor our talented people

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August 26, 2023, 11:59:27 AM
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Eradicating corruption requires more than just finding dishonest people. Trust must be rebuilt. I've always thought that to make a significant difference, you must lead by example. Those officials should go, and we should honor our talented people
It depends on how the attitude of the government in that country is, if there are indeed many corruptors' nests and left unchecked, of course it is difficult to make the country progress, in my country, corruptors are special, even the sentences can be reduced, the punishment is better than motorbike thieves, I think also if the leader in the government is clean, I I am sure that all the institutions under it will be clean, especially in sports institutions, it is very important to promote sports in that country, including football.

Eradicating officials like that requires a leader in the country who is firm because then all other officials will not apply bribery like that, I think we all know that there are countries that are strict and some are not, but if this continues to happen don't expect either sports or football institutions in that country to grow.

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August 26, 2023, 12:56:28 PM
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Actually not only in football because there's a lot of transactions can be made under the table with the different management especially we are talking about a large team so they could possible buy, offer or make a trade to the management just to have this things and for example with this kind of career its a large opportunity to them to take this risk or not, but the consequences is right there if someone really investigate and act to protect the rights to get fair this could be a large issue.

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August 26, 2023, 03:11:22 PM
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I have also heard of some local stories about how some coaches require money from new footballers before they allow them on trier both in their clubs and national teams. Is this happening globally for new players who are still seeking to find a spot in clubs?

A player that is not confident in himself will engage in this act, bribery is very common but is not what should be seen happening in football or gambling in general, any coach or player found in this kind of attitude will only disgrace himself and his reputation and loose trust that have been placed upon him, most times people bribe each other due to lack of patients or greediness for money which is a bad habit, it may delay but surely will last if you don't engage in bribery to secure it fast.

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August 27, 2023, 04:31:13 AM
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I've seen corruption's effects on nations. I've seen talent, dreams, and hope wasted. A shame, I tell you. The smartest and brightest of a country must look elsewhere when dishonest authorities waste their potential. That's a response to a failed system, not a decision

Talented people are rare, not numbers. You lose more than potential; you lose the essence of what makes a nation great. It's like a high-stakes poker game when a few cheaters fold the country's winning hand

Eradicating corruption requires more than just finding dishonest people. Trust must be rebuilt. I've always thought that to make a significant difference, you must lead by example. Those officials should go, and we should honor our talented people
The country has lost many people who commit corruption because they have taken everything they can to profit from them. The country is also not progressing any better with corruption that still occurs everywhere so this will not provide room for people with talent to advance the country so that it is even better. They will lose out competing, especially with people with a lot of money to buy the position. But it's better for those talented people to move to another country where their talent is more appreciated so they can show it to the world. Not for the country but for themselves.

Let the people who commit corruption continue to do corruption. If the country does not progress in 5 countries, the people who commit corruption must be blamed and punished as severely as possible to be held accountable. And the state must be able to act decisively against corrupt people to reduce the amount of corruption in the country. But this requires honest people with higher ranks, so there is no pressure to eradicate corruption.

In this way, only then will there be changes in the country so that the level of corruption can be further reduced and even eliminated slowly. But it is still too difficult to eradicate corruption rooted for a long time.

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August 27, 2023, 06:03:35 AM
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I have also heard of some local stories about how some coaches require money from new footballers before they allow them on trier both in their clubs and national teams. Is this happening globally for new players who are still seeking to find a spot in clubs?

Although I do not have any proof of bribes being taken from the players before they were allowed to play for the clubs or teams, I think we cannot rule out these possibilities, especially at the club level.

Also, this bribe talking is not just from the coaches or higher management, sometimes the players themselves will be willing to give bribes in order to play for a club or team. They do this because of high competition, or else they may be left out and other players may be given a chance. These things do not come out in the media as if this information is leaked, then it will be an embarrassment both for the team and the player.

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August 27, 2023, 05:21:37 PM
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I've seen corruption's effects on nations. I've seen talent, dreams, and hope wasted. A shame, I tell you. The smartest and brightest of a country must look elsewhere when dishonest authorities waste their potential. That's a response to a failed system, not a decision

Talented people are rare, not numbers. You lose more than potential; you lose the essence of what makes a nation great. It's like a high-stakes poker game when a few cheaters fold the country's winning hand

Eradicating corruption requires more than just finding dishonest people. Trust must be rebuilt. I've always thought that to make a significant difference, you must lead by example. Those officials should go, and we should honor our talented people
The country has lost many people who commit corruption because they have taken everything they can to profit from them. The country is also not progressing any better with corruption that still occurs everywhere so this will not provide room for people with talent to advance the country so that it is even better. They will lose out competing, especially with people with a lot of money to buy the position. But it's better for those talented people to move to another country where their talent is more appreciated so they can show it to the world. Not for the country but for themselves.

Let the people who commit corruption continue to do corruption. If the country does not progress in 5 countries, the people who commit corruption must be blamed and punished as severely as possible to be held accountable. And the state must be able to act decisively against corrupt people to reduce the amount of corruption in the country. But this requires honest people with higher ranks, so there is no pressure to eradicate corruption.

In this way, only then will there be changes in the country so that the level of corruption can be further reduced and even eliminated slowly. But it is still too difficult to eradicate corruption rooted for a long time.
I must state, corruption? It is equivalent to skipping your morning jog and consuming junk food all day while expecting to be fit. People, its a no-brainer. The longer you ignore a problem, the worse it becomes. Similar to those slackers who complain about their lack of fitness but never visit the gym.

Are gifted individuals being shoved aside? Why would you even stay around? Find another court if the playing field is not level here! But allowing the corrupt to continue to play? No, I draw the line at that point. If they want to play dirty, they must be prepared to confront the consequences. Put those corrupt idiots out of the game immediately

And those in authority? They need to stand up! Serve as the leader of the crew. Ensure that every participant is in it for the right reasons by demonstrating moral leadership. Clean the system sprint by sprint. However, what if they dont? Irresponsible of them

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August 28, 2023, 07:22:42 AM
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I must state, corruption? It is equivalent to skipping your morning jog and consuming junk food all day while expecting to be fit. People, its a no-brainer. The longer you ignore a problem, the worse it becomes. Similar to those slackers who complain about their lack of fitness but never visit the gym.

Are gifted individuals being shoved aside? Why would you even stay around? Find another court if the playing field is not level here! But allowing the corrupt to continue to play? No, I draw the line at that point. If they want to play dirty, they must be prepared to confront the consequences. Put those corrupt idiots out of the game immediately

And those in authority? They need to stand up! Serve as the leader of the crew. Ensure that every participant is in it for the right reasons by demonstrating moral leadership. Clean the system sprint by sprint. However, what if they dont? Irresponsible of them
That's how corruption is. We may not be able to imagine what kind of corruption has occurred in each country but we all have in common to look for and get opportunities to earn even more money.

Someone with talent in many things cannot get good appreciation from the state because most of them come from poor families, so when they are required to pay money when they want to enter training to develop their talents, they cannot do it because of limited funds. But that wouldn't happen to someone who came from a family that had money because they could pay money to enter the training.

Only by moving to another country that can provide more complete facilities and are willing to accept them for free can they do so that their talents can be further developed.

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August 28, 2023, 07:45:13 AM
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Actually not only in football because there's a lot of transactions can be made under the table with the different management especially we are talking about a large team so they could possible buy, offer or make a trade to the management just to have this things and for example with this kind of career its a large opportunity to them to take this risk or not, but the consequences is right there if someone really investigate and act to protect the rights to get fair this could be a large issue.
Without a doubt this happens in all sports, but with soccer being the most popular sport around the world then I would guess this is more common there.

It is also very problematic that since soccer is managed by a monopoly called FIFA that this happens at all, I have always thought that soccer will be better of if there was an association which competed against FIFA for good players and resources, but FIFA will never allow it as the control they have over soccer is absolute.
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Havent heard of this kind of thing happening in the developed countries. its a sad thing because it denies the developing countries of the kind of players that can really help them to win world trophies. if you really look at it many of these talented players do come from poor homes which is why some of them move away to where they would be accepted without paying a dime. This country would have imagined how their national team would be with kylian mbappe among them. it shows how much they miss him but its too late. 

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October 08, 2023, 11:51:06 PM
Last edit: October 09, 2023, 04:31:45 PM by Westinhome
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Havent heard of this kind of thing happening in the developed countries. its a sad thing because it denies the developing countries of the kind of players that can really help them to win world trophies. if you really look at it many of these talented players do come from poor homes which is why some of them move away to where they would be accepted without paying a dime. This country would have imagined how their national team would be with kylian mbappe among them. it shows how much they miss him but its too late.  

This was the wired one to be happened in the developed countries,the economy of the developed countries will be the double the value of economy to their people money flow.The players of the developing countries will suffer the lot,So they involved in the match fixing.The football players from the developing countries will not get the chance of the game again and again.The football player from the big economy country will have good exposure to the international game as compared to the players of the developing country.
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