Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Boxing October 28

[notblox1]

I’m sorry, but you follow the fan boy behavior pattern 100%: you don’t like my opinion and that’s why I suddenly became a Ukrainian and Usyk fan   You made a mistake twice.
And by the way, I do not understand how you deny reality? There is already a fact that Fury shamefully refused to fight Usyk. This is a fact and not an opinion - what can be discussed here?

You are obviously not from Saudi Arabia or Papua New Guinea, and you know a lot about Usyk, Klitchko and other things from that region.
It is not me that keeps mentioning Usyk and he was not mentioned anywhere else by anyone in this topic.
If you want to talk about him just create new topic and glorify him more, maybe he sends you few local currencies as a gift  

You probably haven’t heard anything about the mystical nandrolone that helped Fury win, but even if we discard this, Fury ran away like a coward from the rematch with Klitschko. Fury is a serial coward.  

Mystical?  
I think you confused languages or your translator is not working correctly.
Another expert evidence showing that you know a lot about Klitschko asking for a rematch.

Mystical

a: having a spiritual meaning or reality that is neither apparent to the senses nor obvious to the intelligence
the mystical food of the sacrament
b: involving or having the nature of an individual's direct subjective communion with God or ultimate reality

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mystical

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[Yaunfitda]

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I personally would want to see an underdog story especially if the challenger is worth it, just like this one because Ngannou is not a push over.
We all probably seen those stories if you're around in the 80s - 90s era where there are challengers surfacing who would want to take their chance.

You are mentioning the underdog story of a boxer making a huge upset, Francis Ngannou is making his boxing debut. In MMA he is a force to recon as he has huge power, if you check out all his knockouts in MMA you will understand why he will not replicate the same in boxing especially against someone elite like Tyson Fury, who could read the punch coming from a mile .

So, you mean that upsets are impossible to happen to a fight where the challenger is still making his boxing debut? I seriously think that it's not really limited to boxers who already have their own share of experience in this industry.

And while it is correct that Fury is an elite boxer, that is not a guarantee that it will be a walk in the park for him just because of the stated fact above. Francis Ngannou might have no experience in boxing professionally, but I still believe that he got a fair chance against Fury.

There is still some small element of upsets here, Mike Tyson during his prime was upset by Buster Douglas, it's not a lucky shot though, it is because Mike Tyson didn't train that hard in the gym but just casually go and not put 100% of his effort and then underestimate Douglas.

So if Fury will have that kind of mentality here, thinking that Francis is just a walk in the park for him because he is not a pure boxer but a MMA and trying to cross over, then it could be the same outcome.

[Josefjix]

There is still some small element of upsets here, Mike Tyson during his prime was upset by Buster Douglas, it's not a lucky shot though, it is because Mike Tyson didn't train that hard in the gym but just casually go and not put 100% of his effort and then underestimate Douglas.

So if Fury will have that kind of mentality here, thinking that Francis is just a walk in the park for him because he is not a pure boxer but a MMA and trying to cross over, then it could be the same outcome.

Expecting 100% performance from both fighters; no place for extraneous excuses; they put in the time and effort and are prepared to face the consequences of their actions. I give credit to Tyson Fury; Francis Ngannou is no match for him, and I predicted a straightforward victory. The boxing match would be rough in the ring; I can envision the worst thrashing lead by Tyson Fury; he's one of the few outstanding fighters, and I believe in his strengths. Perhaps if he underestimates his opponent, Francis Ngannou, who is rising through the ranks of boxing.

[bittraffic]

There is still some small element of upsets here, Mike Tyson during his prime was upset by Buster Douglas, it's not a lucky shot though, it is because Mike Tyson didn't train that hard in the gym but just casually go and not put 100% of his effort and then underestimate Douglas.

So if Fury will have that kind of mentality here, thinking that Francis is just a walk in the park for him because he is not a pure boxer but a MMA and trying to cross over, then it could be the same outcome.

Expecting 100% performance from both fighters; no place for extraneous excuses; they put in the time and effort and are prepared to face the consequences of their actions. I give credit to Tyson Fury; Francis Ngannou is no match for him, and I predicted a straightforward victory. The boxing match would be rough in the ring; I can envision the worst thrashing lead by Tyson Fury; he's one of the few outstanding fighters, and I believe in his strengths. Perhaps if he underestimates his opponent, Francis Ngannou, who is rising through the ranks of boxing.

With Ngannou earning 8 FIGURES, he will definitely give his hundred percent in this fight because if he wins, there is another opportunity for him in the rematch. Ofc if he loses, he wouldn't get a rematch.

Just one hit, that's just what Ngannou needs to disrupt Fury and eventually KO him. It is harder in reality though. Fury is the champ, knows his trade who can outbox his opponent with one hand behind him.

[Oasisman]

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I personally would want to see an underdog story especially if the challenger is worth it, just like this one because Ngannou is not a push over.
We all probably seen those stories if you're around in the 80s - 90s era where there are challengers surfacing who would want to take their chance.

You are mentioning the underdog story of a boxer making a huge upset, Francis Ngannou is making his boxing debut. In MMA he is a force to recon as he has huge power, if you check out all his knockouts in MMA you will understand why he will not replicate the same in boxing especially against someone elite like Tyson Fury, who could read the punch coming from a mile .

So, you mean that upsets are impossible to happen to a fight where the challenger is still making his boxing debut? I seriously think that it's not really limited to boxers who already have their own share of experience in this industry.

And while it is correct that Fury is an elite boxer, that is not a guarantee that it will be a walk in the park for him just because of the stated fact above. Francis Ngannou might have no experience in boxing professionally, but I still believe that he got a fair chance against Fury.

There is still some small element of upsets here, Mike Tyson during his prime was upset by Buster Douglas, it's not a lucky shot though, it is because Mike Tyson didn't train that hard in the gym but just casually go and not put 100% of his effort and then underestimate Douglas.

So if Fury will have that kind of mentality here, thinking that Francis is just a walk in the park for him because he is not a pure boxer but a MMA and trying to cross over, then it could be the same outcome.

Can't put all 4 different fighters in the same scenario, but nevertheless, Fury would never underestimate a fighter who has a lot of punching power, nobody does, because that's Ngannou's strength. However, with a thicker gloves it might cause him a bit of discomfort. There are actually a lot of disadvantages for Ngannou here causing him to reduce his chances to win, simply because MMA and Boxing are totally different combat sport, but then again we're not taking away the possibilities of an upset here.
Common scenario that would most likely to happen with this fight :
-Ngannou will have a hard time hitting Fury with a solid punch.
-Fury will use his reach advantage as he knows very well every corner of the ring.
-Ngannou will gas out in the middle of the scheduled number of rounds.

[KTChampions]

I’m sorry, but you follow the fan boy behavior pattern 100%: you don’t like my opinion and that’s why I suddenly became a Ukrainian and Usyk fan   You made a mistake twice.
And by the way, I do not understand how you deny reality? There is already a fact that Fury shamefully refused to fight Usyk. This is a fact and not an opinion - what can be discussed here?

You are obviously not from Saudi Arabia or Papua New Guinea, and you know a lot about Usyk, Klitchko and other things from that region.
It is not me that keeps mentioning Usyk and he was not mentioned anywhere else by anyone in this topic.
If you want to talk about him just create new topic and glorify him more, maybe he sends you few local currencies as a gift  

Judging by the fact that you continue to get personal and discuss me, and not the facts that Fury was running away from Klitschko, and then from Usyk, you admit that Fury is a serial coward. Great 

Mystical?  
I think you confused languages or your translator is not working correctly.
Another expert evidence showing that you know a lot about Klitschko asking for a rematch.

Mystical

a: having a spiritual meaning or reality that is neither apparent to the senses nor obvious to the intelligence
the mystical food of the sacrament
b: involving or having the nature of an individual's direct subjective communion with God or ultimate reality

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mystical

Firstly, it's funny that since you don't understand why this word is used here, it means I'm right about the fact that you don't know how cowardly drug addict and lover of nandrolone Fury was doped through wild boar meat 
Secondly, you can additionally look for my errors in punctuation or somewhere else. I see you have few arguments, but at least you try, good boy. But be careful - if you continue like this, then I will apply your logic and announce that you are Russian and my fan 

[notblox1]

Firstly, it's funny that since you don't understand why this word is used here

Stupid mystical explanations.

But be careful - if you continue like this, then I will apply your logic and announce that you are Russian and my fan  

More stupid things coming from your mouth  
You are the one who is writing russian in forum, not me  
I am seriously starting to think if you are even human being, or just robot with algorithm made to write stupid posts.
I am done talking with you because I think you have problem in you head.
I hope you get well soon and get healthy.

[KTChampions]

Firstly, it's funny that since you don't understand why this word is used here

Stupid mystical explanations.

But be careful - if you continue like this, then I will apply your logic and announce that you are Russian and my fan  

More stupid things coming from your mouth  
You are the one who is writing russian in forum, not me  
I am seriously starting to think if you are even human being, or just robot with algorithm made to write stupid posts.
I am done talking with you because I think you have problem in you head.
I hope you get well soon and get healthy.

The little offended boy moved on to "new" arguments - swearing and insults   
I am not ready to continue the conversation at this level, if suddenly you find something to say on the topic, then I will return to the discussion.

[Kelvinid]

With Ngannou earning 8 FIGURES, he will definitely give his hundred percent in this fight because if he wins, there is another opportunity for him in the rematch. Ofc if he loses, he wouldn't get a rematch.

Do you have the exact figures on how much he'll make in this fight? You are saying eight figures, so the minimum he will make is $10 million. I tried to search for the specific amount, but I only see that he is making around $6 to $8 million.

According to The Mirror, his purse for the Fury fight will exceed the £6m-a-fight ($8m) deal he was offered by the UFC to extend his stay and become their 'highest paid athlete' last year.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-12298481/Francis-Ngannou-earn-money-did-14-fight-UFC-career-one-night-vs-Tyson-Fury.html

[bittraffic]

With Ngannou earning 8 FIGURES, he will definitely give his hundred percent in this fight because if he wins, there is another opportunity for him in the rematch. Ofc if he loses, he wouldn't get a rematch.

Do you have the exact figures on how much he'll make in this fight? You are saying eight figures, so the minimum he will make is $10 million. I tried to search for the specific amount, but I only see that he is making around $6 to $8 million.

According to The Mirror, his purse for the Fury fight will exceed the £6m-a-fight ($8m) deal he was offered by the UFC to extend his stay and become their 'highest paid athlete' last year.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-12298481/Francis-Ngannou-earn-money-did-14-fight-UFC-career-one-night-vs-Tyson-Fury.html

No I don't have exact amount, I don't think they will say it, we could just keep guessing. Its says 8 figures in some articles but lets just say $6M only. Lower fee for him I guess its fairer. Lets make it $8M, its not our money anyway.  $8M is more than a motivation since he can't get that amount with 5 fights in UFC. He does have a chance against his opponent. Fury had been hit before and down to the ground.

It could go south for Ngannou. Watching his game with Gane, he barely make it and gassed out in the 3rd round. This is what he should be working out.

[TopTort777]

With Ngannou earning 8 FIGURES, he will definitely give his hundred percent in this fight because if he wins, there is another opportunity for him in the rematch. Ofc if he loses, he wouldn't get a rematch.

Do you have the exact figures on how much he'll make in this fight? You are saying eight figures, so the minimum he will make is $10 million. I tried to search for the specific amount, but I only see that he is making around $6 to $8 million.

According to The Mirror, his purse for the Fury fight will exceed the £6m-a-fight ($8m) deal he was offered by the UFC to extend his stay and become their 'highest paid athlete' last year.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-12298481/Francis-Ngannou-earn-money-did-14-fight-UFC-career-one-night-vs-Tyson-Fury.html

Imho it does not really matters how much Ngannou gonna get now, as there is a rematch clause in their contract. If I was Ngannou, such a confident bad ass knockout artist. I would take a risk and fight Fury for free right now and try to finish him. But for a rematch, I would ask for a real fortune. That will be a huge motivation for me. Plus Fury for taking whole purse will be motivated to fight against me. Anyway, Ngannou have independent sponsorship contracts, which means he would earn anyway.

[aioc]

Imho it does not really matters how much Ngannou gonna get now, as there is a rematch clause in their contract. If I was Ngannou, such a confident bad ass knockout artist. I would take a risk and fight Fury for free right now and try to finish him. But for a rematch, I would ask for a real fortune. That will be a huge motivation for me. Plus Fury for taking whole purse will be motivated to fight against me. Anyway, Ngannou have independent sponsorship contracts, which means he would earn anyway.

Independent Sponsorship is what Ngannou has been fighting when he is negotiating his contract with Dana, unfortunately, they did not grant him that privilege, now that he is in a boxing match he can still earn from independent sponsorship, and he can get a better deal because of the sponsorship, remember some of the great athletes have earned more from sponsorship than their actual contract if Ngannou shows a good performance he'll have more sponsor because he represents the MMA, he is in a much better deal than any of the MMA fighters.

[Synchronice]

Imho it does not really matters how much Ngannou gonna get now, as there is a rematch clause in their contract. If I was Ngannou, such a confident bad ass knockout artist. I would take a risk and fight Fury for free right now and try to finish him. But for a rematch, I would ask for a real fortune. That will be a huge motivation for me. Plus Fury for taking whole purse will be motivated to fight against me. Anyway, Ngannou have independent sponsorship contracts, which means he would earn anyway.

Ngannou has the most powerful punch but you know, every tool is useless if it's not used by the master. While Ngannou is a great fighter, he is not a great boxer while Tyson Fury actually is.
By the way, that's still a huge risk. Profit will be much more but still a huge risk, his opponent is Tyson Fury after all. This post of your reminds me the moment when Jake Paul asked Tyson's brother, Tommy Fury that winner takes all and loser gets nothing and Tommy, while way more experienced and dedicated boxer than Jake Paul, couldn't take this risk. So, I think Ngannou won't take such a big risk too. While it sounds easy to tell, this risk could hugely affect his psychology and make him very stressed, very pressured, this is not something that boxer needs to think about every second he fights.

[Botnake]

If I was Ngannou, such a confident bad ass knockout artist. I would take a risk and fight Fury for free right now and try to finish him.

Fury would so happy to accept this terms, but Ngannou cannot be too confident that he can win on this fight as Fury is at advantage here as he has already knockout a knockout artist in boxing, remember Wilder?

Odds don't lie.

Tyson Fury vs. Francis Ngannou Odds
Fighter   Tyson Fury vs. Francis Ngannou Odds   Implied Chance
Tyson Fury                                            -400   80%
Francis Ngannou                                   +300   25%

source :
https://www.oddschecker.com/us/insight/boxing/mma/20230711-tyson-fury-vs-francis-ngannou-odds-fury-given-80pp-chance-to-win-as-fight-is-officially-announced

[cabron]

Imho it does not really matters how much Ngannou gonna get now, as there is a rematch clause in their contract. If I was Ngannou, such a confident bad ass knockout artist. I would take a risk and fight Fury for free right now and try to finish him. But for a rematch, I would ask for a real fortune. That will be a huge motivation for me. Plus Fury for taking whole purse will be motivated to fight against me. Anyway, Ngannou have independent sponsorship contracts, which means he would earn anyway.

Ngannou has the most powerful punch but you know, every tool is useless if it's not used by the master. While Ngannou is a great fighter, he is not a great boxer while Tyson Fury actually is.
By the way, that's still a huge risk. Profit will be much more but still a huge risk, his opponent is Tyson Fury after all. This post of your reminds me the moment when Jake Paul asked Tyson's brother, Tommy Fury that winner takes all and loser gets nothing and Tommy, while way more experienced and dedicated boxer than Jake Paul, couldn't take this risk. So, I think Ngannou won't take such a big risk too. While it sounds easy to tell, this risk could hugely affect his psychology and make him very stressed, very pressured, this is not something that boxer needs to think about every second he fights.

None wouldn't honor that winner take all deal when its just done verbally. Jake never talked about that deal after he lost. Francis took a risk retiring from UFC just so he could have a fight in boxing, that will defeat the purpose if he fights for free.

Francis also thinks its tough for him to connect to Fury a distance especially since Fury is a pro. But him reaching to the 10th round is more of an uphill battle. Tyson will tire him out.
https://youtu.be/MQ8pXLk6T4c?t=5733

[Casdinyard]

While I love both fighters and see them as the new face of boxing after Pacquiao's fall into grace lmao. I gotta hand the preemptive win to Tyson Fury this time. Francis is a fucking powerhouse I give him that, he's a tank that could take punches and give the blows back twice as hard if not more, but Tyson is a better fighter through and through and provided that he doesn't get smacked in the face by a pain-packing punch he's going to win. There's a lot of win conditions for Fury and only one for Ngannou, plus he's lost his charm all these years for some reason and now I don't think he's as confident about his abilities as he was back in the day. Tyson still has a long way ahead of him and he's probably still not in his prime (although I say this with a full clenched fist of salt in a hand).

[Stepstowealth]

Ngannou has the most powerful punch but you know, every tool is useless if it's not used by the master. While Ngannou is a great fighter, he is not a great boxer while Tyson Fury actually is.

This is a one shot for Ngannou to become a bigger name than he is and he knows this, It is also an opportunity to win the biggest sum of money he has ever won in his career. Adesanya supports Ngannou who he has fought against before to beat Tyson Fury in the fight, not just because they both have roots from the same continent Africa, but because he has been in the ring before with Francis and he knows how powerful his punches are. A few good punches against Fury may affect his composure.

[lionheart78]

There is still some small element of upsets here, Mike Tyson during his prime was upset by Buster Douglas, it's not a lucky shot though, it is because Mike Tyson didn't train that hard in the gym but just casually go and not put 100% of his effort and then underestimate Douglas.

So if Fury will have that kind of mentality here, thinking that Francis is just a walk in the park for him because he is not a pure boxer but a MMA and trying to cross over, then it could be the same outcome.

Overconfidence sure and at the same time belittling the opponent sure can give a boxer his demise.  Since when a boxer enter that states, he somehow don't put 100% of his effort and just toy with the opponent when his opponent is exerting more than 100% of his ability.  So this event bring lapses to the one who is overconfident and eventually gets cocky and careless which enhance the possibility of an upset win.

But I do not think that Tyso Fury will exercise this thing since as a champion and well-experienced boxer, he knows what to do.  Besides he's been careful in choosing his opponent to avoid blemishing his record, I am sure that Tyson Fury will not be careless in this fight.

[Synchronice]

None wouldn't honor that winner take all deal when its just done verbally. Jake never talked about that deal after he lost. Francis took a risk retiring from UFC just so he could have a fight in boxing, that will defeat the purpose if he fights for free.

Francis also thinks its tough for him to connect to Fury a distance especially since Fury is a pro. But him reaching to the 10th round is more of an uphill battle. Tyson will tire him out.
https://youtu.be/MQ8pXLk6T4c?t=5733

Jake offered him official contract and they denied it, so why would Jake Paul talk about winner takes all after that? If they made a deal, signed a contract, then I believe he would pay him, that money was really nothing for Jake Paul.
It's definitely tough for Francis to win against Tyson. Francis is an MMA fighter and Tyson is a boxer, match is in boxing. It's like to compete indoor footballer to the real footballer in real football match, definitely, the last one has a huge advantage.
Btw this boxing match will be very interesting.

[Kelvinid]

There is still some small element of upsets here, Mike Tyson during his prime was upset by Buster Douglas, it's not a lucky shot though, it is because Mike Tyson didn't train that hard in the gym but just casually go and not put 100% of his effort and then underestimate Douglas.

So if Fury will have that kind of mentality here, thinking that Francis is just a walk in the park for him because he is not a pure boxer but a MMA and trying to cross over, then it could be the same outcome.

Overconfidence sure and at the same time belittling the opponent sure can give a boxer his demise.  Since when a boxer enter that states, he somehow don't put 100% of his effort and just toy with the opponent when his opponent is exerting more than 100% of his ability.  So this event bring lapses to the one who is overconfident and eventually gets cocky and careless which enhance the possibility of an upset win.

But I do not think that Tyso Fury will exercise this thing since as a champion and well-experienced boxer, he knows what to do.  Besides he's been careful in choosing his opponent to avoid blemishing his record, I am sure that Tyson Fury will not be careless in this fight.

Indeed, Fury is aware of his opponent's knockout power, and he will take precautions to avoid getting knocked out. His undefeated record showcases his discipline and dedication as a boxer. Fury trains hard for every fight and demonstrates high ring intelligence. He has shown resilience by knowing how to recover and stand up after being knocked down. These qualities highlight his strength and capabilities in the ring, so I would see an upset only a slight chance.