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Question: Winner
Tyson - 27 (55.1%)
Ngannou - 21 (42.9%)
Draw - 1 (2%)
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Author Topic: Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Boxing October 28  (Read 3741 times)
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September 02, 2023, 03:52:16 PM
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It will be struggle for Francis Ngannou because nobody did cracked Fury before and that is also one of the obvious reasons why most people don't believe that the MMA fighter can make a difference in this fight. Not this time. But I'm still looking forward to see a good fight between the two of them.

I'm inclined as well that this will be a good fight because Ngannou is not that unknown after all, even if he is not from the boxing industry. He can somehow make the fight worth it even though the upper hand is not with him and of course he knows that but still, he is still eager and confident enough that he can make a difference. You know, even the slightest hand still stand a chance.
Ngannou is training with one of the best boxers in the history of the sport, so he can shock the boxing world and spectators with a win over Fury. Even with all the experience Fury has got, it is not going to be an easy fight for him because Ngannou is also going for the win in this fight and even if he looses will not make the fight easy for Fury. Some few weeks to the fight, both fighters will be studying the moves and tactics of each other as well as training physically, and eating right for the fight. If you bet on Ngannou, you can make a lot of money if he wins.

That's quite a big word mate, to say that Ngannou can shock the boxing world along with its spectators by upsetting the Tyson Fury in a duel inside the boxing ring which is the latter's sport. I know that there is a chance even if it's just slim but it's still too soon for it to say specially after knowing that the odds aren't in favor with the MMA fighter.

Tyson Fury may or may not face some troubles in this fight because Ngannou isn't an ordinary fighter as well but I know that Fury already have his eyes on the prize and will not underestimate his opponent because his undefeated record is on the line while Ngannou here have nothing to lose as after all, this is still his boxing debut and won't probably matter anyway because he's an MMA fighter in the first place.

In HW boxing, Fury had beaten everyone in that division, which may be the reason why Ngannou was introduced and most likely after this fight win or lose Fury will face Usyk. It is also a win-win for Fury, he ducked Usyk while also making a cross-fight and making millions at the same time.

But Ngannou has a fighting chance and with Mike Tyson training him + a KO punch, his winning chance increases the fact that Fury had been knockout before he managed to get up though.



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September 02, 2023, 09:14:19 PM
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Thanks, and that's what I'm saying, there is no value on betting for Fury. However, if we go for Francis, high risk high rewards for some of us. Small bet means big profits. But still depend on the gambler though.

Maybe they are going to be smart and just bet a lot of money on Fury, just to win big as well.

But for us, we will have to take some risk, average gamblers.

In my opinion, the best option is not just to take a chance and bet on Ngannou, but also try to guess the round in which he can win - if successful, the multiplier will justify the risk. A bet on Fury doesn't make sense because of the low odds and because Fury is unstable, who knows how much beer (or cocaine haha) he will use knowing that he will have an easy fight ahead of him.

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September 03, 2023, 01:24:30 PM
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Thanks, and that's what I'm saying, there is no value on betting for Fury. However, if we go for Francis, high risk high rewards for some of us. Small bet means big profits. But still depend on the gambler though.

Maybe they are going to be smart and just bet a lot of money on Fury, just to win big as well.

But for us, we will have to take some risk, average gamblers.

In my opinion, the best option is not just to take a chance and bet on Ngannou, but also try to guess the round in which he can win - if successful, the multiplier will justify the risk. A bet on Fury doesn't make sense because of the low odds and because Fury is unstable, who knows how much beer (or cocaine haha) he will use knowing that he will have an easy fight ahead of him.

That should be the best move in this fight, we know that Tyson Fury's odds will not give us anything good because we're just an average gambler who mostly want good odds with some few risks that somehow got a decent chance in winning. And if Fury will think that this is just a mere walk in the park to him then it's good because that gives us more chances because we know that Ngannou doesn't play games.

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September 04, 2023, 05:49:30 AM
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In HW boxing, Fury had beaten everyone in that division, which may be the reason why Ngannou was introduced and most likely after this fight win or lose Fury will face Usyk. It is also a win-win for Fury, he ducked Usyk while also making a cross-fight and making millions at the same time.

But Ngannou has a fighting chance and with Mike Tyson training him + a KO punch, his winning chance increases the fact that Fury had been knockout before he managed to get up though.


Tyson Fury has a title in the heavyweight class and he has succeeded in making many challengers fall when they want to take the championship belt from his hands but later when the fight on October 28 brings him together with Francis Ngannou there will most likely be some difficulties Tyson Fury not going to win because Francis Ngannou is not a boxer who is easy to beat and cannot be taken lightly.
In addition Francis Ngannou was really expected by many people including Mike Tyson to become a winner and made Tyson Fury unable to boast about his every victory.

If you look at the physique of both of them Francis Ngannou is more likely to have a body posture that looks strong and tough so he can withstand every hug from Tyson Fury.
In this heavyweight fight we are waiting to see who is truly the strongest and deserves to be called a heavyweight monster.

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September 04, 2023, 08:45:38 AM
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If you look at the physique of both of them Francis Ngannou is more likely to have a body posture that looks strong and tough so he can withstand every hug from Tyson Fury.
In this heavyweight fight we are waiting to see who is truly the strongest and deserves to be called a heavyweight monster.

This comparison isn't quite apt. While Ngannou may appear physically tougher than Fury, you can't discount Fury's achievements in boxing. He's undefeated and currently holds the heavyweight championship. I'm not sure if you've seen him fight against boxers with strong physiques, but he has beaten them. One of the most notable boxers he defeated was Wilder, a KO artist, but Fury identified his weaknesses and exploited them during the fight. Fury is a smart boxer, and he wouldn't allow himself to lose to a fighter who isn't a boxing pro. So, it's important not to set overly high expectations for Ngannou; you might end up disappointed.

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September 04, 2023, 01:58:12 PM
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The poll has 38 votes and the statistics are quite stunning:

Tyson         - 21 (55.3%)
Ngannou    - 17 (44.7%)


I am surprised at the number of members that have rated Ngannou to have a chance to cause an upset when he will be facing Tyson Fury in the ring. He might get some success within the fight here and there but it will be a big task for him to win.

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September 04, 2023, 04:01:50 PM
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The poll has 38 votes and the statistics are quite stunning:

Tyson         - 21 (55.3%)
Ngannou    - 17 (44.7%)


I am surprised at the number of members that have rated Ngannou to have a chance to cause an upset when he will be facing Tyson Fury in the ring. He might get some success within the fight here and there but it will be a big task for him to win.

Because why not? Wink This fight is already interesting enough for the people around the world specially if they know both fighter's features, and even us here in this forum are making some wild speculations about what could happen on the day of their fight knowing that both of them are good enough to withstand each other's punches.

Ngannou might be an MMA fighter but he sure ain't the kind of fighter that can be underestimated easily even if he fights in a sport that he knows less about. And if Fury will cut him some slack, I won't be surprised if an upset will happen.

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September 04, 2023, 05:23:41 PM
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The poll has 38 votes and the statistics are quite stunning:

Tyson         - 21 (55.3%)
Ngannou    - 17 (44.7%)


I am surprised at the number of members that have rated Ngannou to have a chance to cause an upset when he will be facing Tyson Fury in the ring. He might get some success within the fight here and there but it will be a big task for him to win.

Because why not? Wink This fight is already interesting enough for the people around the world specially if they know both fighter's features, and even us here in this forum are making some wild speculations about what could happen on the day of their fight knowing that both of them are good enough to withstand each other's punches.

Ngannou might be an MMA fighter but he sure ain't the kind of fighter that can be underestimated easily even if he fights in a sport that he knows less about. And if Fury will cut him some slack, I won't be surprised if an upset will happen.

I vote for Ngannou because it just feels great to see a story of someone from rags to riches and him fighting back against the enslaving UFC contract and ending up getting support from other promotions and getting a boxing contract was the greatest win against Dana. Ofc this is just a speculation yet.

But once Ngannou makes it. It will be the greatest story of a Cameroonian who gambles his future from digging dirt to getting out of poverty in the land of opportunity.




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The poll has 38 votes and the statistics are quite stunning:

Tyson         - 21 (55.3%)
Ngannou    - 17 (44.7%)


I am surprised at the number of members that have rated Ngannou to have a chance to cause an upset when he will be facing Tyson Fury in the ring. He might get some success within the fight here and there but it will be a big task for him to win.

Because why not? Wink This fight is already interesting enough for the people around the world specially if they know both fighter's features, and even us here in this forum are making some wild speculations about what could happen on the day of their fight knowing that both of them are good enough to withstand each other's punches.

Ngannou might be an MMA fighter but he sure ain't the kind of fighter that can be underestimated easily even if he fights in a sport that he knows less about. And if Fury will cut him some slack, I won't be surprised if an upset will happen.

I vote for Ngannou because it just feels great to see a story of someone from rags to riches and him fighting back against the enslaving UFC contract and ending up getting support from other promotions and getting a boxing contract was the greatest win against Dana. Ofc this is just a speculation yet.

But once Ngannou makes it. It will be the greatest story of a Cameroonian who gambles his future from digging dirt to getting out of poverty in the land of opportunity.

I know his chances are not that good specially because this fight is going to be contested in a sports of boxing where he already have the disadvantage but I believe that he can make a difference and knowing Ngannou, he's not cutting some slack whenever he got an upcoming fight as he always makes sure that he prepares for what he think is best so that in the end, he can tell himself that he did his best. But this time, it should be no different even if this is not his sport, he's a live underdog and Tyson should watch his move because Ngannou can be also unpredictable.

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The poll has 38 votes and the statistics are quite stunning:

Tyson         - 21 (55.3%)
Ngannou    - 17 (44.7%)


I am surprised at the number of members that have rated Ngannou to have a chance to cause an upset when he will be facing Tyson Fury in the ring. He might get some success within the fight here and there but it will be a big task for him to win.
I will give my vote to Ngannou. Now the poll looks like this:
Tyson - 21 (53.8%)
Ngannou - 18 (46.2%)

and still Fury has an advantage, although not a big one. Fury and Ngannou met for the first time yesterday, and Ngannou pointed out Fury's overweight, and Fury, as always, was very verbose in response.  Grin

Fury also said that he would like to fight Ngannou according to the UFC rules, that he is confident that he will defeat him. Self-confidence is good, but I think that in this case Fury simply won’t have a chance.
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I will give my vote to Ngannou. Now the poll looks like this:
Tyson - 21 (53.8%)
Ngannou - 18 (46.2%)

and still Fury has an advantage, although not a big one. Fury and Ngannou met for the first time yesterday, and Ngannou pointed out Fury's overweight, and Fury, as always, was very verbose in response.  Grin

Fury also said that he would like to fight Ngannou according to the UFC rules, that he is confident that he will defeat him. Self-confidence is good, but I think that in this case Fury simply won’t have a chance.

Fury is such a yaper that few people take his words seriously, especially this trash talk. It seems to me that if their fight was according to the UFC rules, then Ngannou would have a much greater advantage than the bookmakers now give in favor of Fury in a fight according to boxing rules.

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September 08, 2023, 01:41:36 PM
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I will give my vote to Ngannou. Now the poll looks like this:
Tyson - 21 (53.8%)
Ngannou - 18 (46.2%)

and still Fury has an advantage, although not a big one. Fury and Ngannou met for the first time yesterday, and Ngannou pointed out Fury's overweight, and Fury, as always, was very verbose in response.  Grin

Fury also said that he would like to fight Ngannou according to the UFC rules, that he is confident that he will defeat him. Self-confidence is good, but I think that in this case Fury simply won’t have a chance.

Fury is such a yaper that few people take his words seriously, especially this trash talk. It seems to me that if their fight was according to the UFC rules, then Ngannou would have a much greater advantage than the bookmakers now give in favor of Fury in a fight according to boxing rules.

This is a boxing match, and it would be nice if we could refrain from entertaining discussions about the UFC, as it's quite obvious that Fury is just engaging in trash talk. Furthermore, he is well aware that he wouldn't stand a chance under UFC rules, so it wouldn't be in his favor. Currently, he still enjoys respect in the boxing world due to the caliber of opponents he has faced. Thus, he aims to protect his undefeated record, as he plans to return to boxing in the future for an undisputed fight against a champion.

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I will give my vote to Ngannou. Now the poll looks like this:
Tyson - 21 (53.8%)
Ngannou - 18 (46.2%)

and still Fury has an advantage, although not a big one. Fury and Ngannou met for the first time yesterday, and Ngannou pointed out Fury's overweight, and Fury, as always, was very verbose in response.  Grin

Fury also said that he would like to fight Ngannou according to the UFC rules, that he is confident that he will defeat him. Self-confidence is good, but I think that in this case Fury simply won’t have a chance.

Fury is such a yaper that few people take his words seriously, especially this trash talk. It seems to me that if their fight was according to the UFC rules, then Ngannou would have a much greater advantage than the bookmakers now give in favor of Fury in a fight according to boxing rules.

This is a boxing match, and it would be nice if we could refrain from entertaining discussions about the UFC, as it's quite obvious that Fury is just engaging in trash talk. Furthermore, he is well aware that he wouldn't stand a chance under UFC rules, so it wouldn't be in his favor. Currently, he still enjoys respect in the boxing world due to the caliber of opponents he has faced. Thus, he aims to protect his undefeated record, as he plans to return to boxing in the future for an undisputed fight against a champion.
I understand, it's just funny to me though to think that Francis Ngannou really tried to suggest that in this particular bout, they should be wearing grappling gloves (the ones that are used in MMA). I don't know what are his reasons for that because the article that I've read did not explain why but I think that it's either one of this two reason; he's not that accustomed or he believe that he cannot have the same power if boxing gloves will be used.

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^ It's possible. Boxing gloves are heavy, they would have to agree on which boxing gloves to wear and if Fury suggests the heaviest boxing glove, there goes the chance of Ngannou to the south. The ball is with Fury and the fight result might just decide to be cruel to Ngannou.

Fury is very confident he can beat the shit out of Ngannou and he was just acting it like is the easiest to do in the Tom Hardy interview. He seems not realizing he is out of shape.


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September 09, 2023, 04:45:08 AM
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The poll has 38 votes and the statistics are quite stunning:

Tyson         - 21 (55.3%)
Ngannou    - 17 (44.7%)


I am surprised at the number of members that have rated Ngannou to have a chance to cause an upset when he will be facing Tyson Fury in the ring. He might get some success within the fight here and there but it will be a big task for him to win.
I will give my vote to Ngannou. Now the poll looks like this:
Tyson - 21 (53.8%)
Ngannou - 18 (46.2%)

and still Fury has an advantage, although not a big one. Fury and Ngannou met for the first time yesterday, and Ngannou pointed out Fury's overweight, and Fury, as always, was very verbose in response.  Grin

Fury also said that he would like to fight Ngannou according to the UFC rules, that he is confident that he will defeat him. Self-confidence is good, but I think that in this case Fury simply won’t have a chance.

This is only trashtalk from Fury hehe. I am 100% certain Tyson Fury will not win in MMA against Francis Ngannou. MMA gloves are different. Ngannou might kill Fury with one knockout punch and it will be Tommy Fury bringing the stretcher to carry his brother to the hospital hehehehe. Ngannou can also shockingly wrestle and he did this with only one healthy knee vs. Cyril Gane.

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The poll has 38 votes and the statistics are quite stunning:

Tyson         - 21 (55.3%)
Ngannou    - 17 (44.7%)


I am surprised at the number of members that have rated Ngannou to have a chance to cause an upset when he will be facing Tyson Fury in the ring. He might get some success within the fight here and there but it will be a big task for him to win.
I will give my vote to Ngannou. Now the poll looks like this:
Tyson - 21 (53.8%)
Ngannou - 18 (46.2%)

and still Fury has an advantage, although not a big one. Fury and Ngannou met for the first time yesterday, and Ngannou pointed out Fury's overweight, and Fury, as always, was very verbose in response.  Grin

Fury also said that he would like to fight Ngannou according to the UFC rules, that he is confident that he will defeat him. Self-confidence is good, but I think that in this case Fury simply won’t have a chance.

This is only trashtalk from Fury hehe. I am 100% certain Tyson Fury will not win in MMA against Francis Ngannou. MMA gloves are different. Ngannou might kill Fury with one knockout punch and it will be Tommy Fury bringing the stretcher to carry his brother to the hospital hehehehe. Ngannou can also shockingly wrestle and he did this with only one healthy knee vs. Cyril Gane.

I do agree, it's very different combat sports, like the gloves in boxing is more padded if I'm not mistaken than in UFC/MMA. So I doubt that Fury is going to win or ever last a round against Francis if they fought on a the Octagon. And this is the same reason why we don't see boxers going into UFC or even trying it because it's going to be very hard for them to transition. As compare to let's say Conor who fought Floyd in the square ring. And now it's time for Francis to go for real shit here against the best Heavyweight in this generation and try to make an upset.

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September 09, 2023, 08:19:37 AM
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Fury also said that he would like to fight Ngannou according to the UFC rules, that he is confident that he will defeat him. Self-confidence is good, but I think that in this case Fury simply won’t have a chance.
He has no chance in UFC I think, he has never used his lower body for fighting and Ngannou has been fighting with full body for years. I think he can't escape in UFC via only fighting skills too and he is old enough to not master the fight with his lower body.

Fury is very confident he can beat the shit out of Ngannou and he was just acting it like is the easiest to do in the Tom Hardy interview. He seems not realizing he is out of shape.
Out of shape? Physically? Or do you mean fighting skills? His physical shape indicates nothing because while he is as fat as pig (as he says  Cheesy), he is still one of the most athletic man in boxing. And his fighting skills? His shape and his record indicates that he has the top fighting skills, he is a pure born talent.

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September 09, 2023, 11:43:17 AM
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Fury is very confident he can beat the shit out of Ngannou and he was just acting it like is the easiest to do in the Tom Hardy interview. He seems not realizing he is out of shape.

He has the right and the privilege he is the lineal Champion He just happened to beat the guy who is considered the hardest puncher in heavyweight in this era not once but twice, he may look out of shape but looks can be deceiving and Fury always proves it, come fight night he will in his best shape.

The poll is very close but I still maintain Fury has the edge, he is fighting a guy who has no experience and is limited with his boxing skills.

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September 09, 2023, 02:36:55 PM
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Fury is such a yaper that few people take his words seriously, especially this trash talk. It seems to me that if their fight was according to the UFC rules, then Ngannou would have a much greater advantage than the bookmakers now give in favor of Fury in a fight according to boxing rules.
Yes, I agree, in this case Fury’s chances would be much lower than they are now in a boxing match. Fury is certainly a yaper, but his punch is very powerful, you can’t take that away from him. It is not clear what he is capable of now, since he had a long break without fights, and it is clear from his form that he did not devote much time to training. But the same can be said about Ngannou, he has also been without practice in the ring for a very long time, it is not clear how this will affect his results.

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September 09, 2023, 02:47:25 PM
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I don't believe Mike Tyson when he said that " He only needs 1 good punch in order to KO Fury" . This might be true if Mike was on the ring but with Ngannou , I really cannot see him doing a KO on fury or even doing important damage to him. However ,a luck punch can always occur during the match but I doubt it will happen.

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