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On July 17, 2023, Russia withdrew from the “grain agreement” and officially notified Turkey and Ukraine, as well as the UN secretariat, of its objection to the extension of the “grain deal” for the export of grain and other agricultural products from Ukrainian ports to the world market. In connection with the termination of the Black Sea Initiative and the curtailment of the maritime humanitarian corridor, from 00:00 Moscow time on July 20, 2023, all ships en route to Ukrainian ports in the Black Sea will be considered as potential carriers of military cargo. Accordingly, the flag countries of such vessels will be considered involved in the Ukrainian conflict on the side of the Kyiv regime, the Russian Defense Ministry said. Thus, Russia stated that it intends to sink any civilian ships that will be sent to the Black Sea ports of Ukraine. This will greatly complicate the delivery of agricultural products to many poor regions of the world. Due to Russia's sabotage of the "grain corridor" in recent months, the world has not received an additional 25 million tons of agricultural products from Ukraine. In total, 1,002 vessels left Ukrainian ports during the year of this agreement. According to the Ministry of Infrastructure of Ukraine, since the start of the “grain agreement”, more than 33 million tons of products of Ukrainian farmers have been exported to 45 countries of the world. It is worth noting that after withdrawing from the grain deal, Russia has been attacking Ukrainian ports with missiles and drones for the third night in a row, trying to hit terminals with Ukrainian grain. So, on July 19, 60,000 tons of grain were destroyed in the terminal of the Ukrainian port of Chornomorsk, which was planned to be delivered to the world market two months ago. With its piracy, Russia is blackmailing the whole world, trying to partially lift sanctions for its military invasion of Ukraine and jeopardizing food security in the world, thereby increasing the threat of hunger in many poor countries of the world. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://1prime.ru/state_regulation/20230719/841129477.html&ved=2ahUKEwjp-8fln5uAAxUCGhAIHUh2CGgQFnoECB4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw2Y-4 amIIxS74jQpfr8rfTw https://news.zerkalo.io/world/44156.htmlhttps://m.gordonua.com/news/war/rossiya-zayavila-chto-budet-schitat-vse-suda-idushchie-v-ukrainskie-porty-perevozchikami-gruzov-voennogo-naznacheniya-1673774.html
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What did you expect from a terrorist country and a loser country? All their fairy tales about greatness, world influence (in a good sense) and so on are fake. Therefore, the only and favorite method of the Kremlin fuckers remains - TERROR, and an attempt to just "shit on everyone". Terror both military and economic. At that, the official version is the failure to honor some promises and agreements.... It is ridiculous to hear an international criminal country squealing about agreements and treaties that it itself violates at every step, in total. But let's leave that for psychiatrists to investigate ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The real reason is the critical importance of the return of the SWIFT bank RosSelkhozBank. Why ? This bank is owned by the son of Patrushev, the head of the FSB. The purpose of this bank is to serve the money of the Russian top brass - laundering, withdrawal and other illegal activities with the criminal money of Putin and his inner circle. And no matter how the pathetic underfuhrer squeals that the dollar is worthless, his and his friends' savings are in dollars and stored in banks of the "decaying west" ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ) Everything is very simple - Putin's pocket does not get and loses money. And here will include all methods - from sending hand dogs (look who squeals about returning SWIFT to the specified bank), to direct economic and military terror ! There is only one way out - the destruction of the Rashist regime, as Nazism was destroyed in 1945 .... Otherwise, all this will continue and expand to the whole world
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July 20, 2023, 08:19:09 AM |
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Anything could be used as a weapon of war because all warring nations want to win by all means. Russia wants to pressurize the West to do its bidding because it seems that sanctions have started hitting the Russian economy hard. The economy that was portrayed as sanctioned poof is gradually losing its strength. The war is costing so much and it was not expected to last for this long. This halt in this grain deal will affect the world, especially poor nations.
But Russia also raised some valid points. The Kremlin claimed that the West is not keeping its part of the agreement. Russian agricultural products have been restricted from the international market, which is against the agreement. Another point is that one of the main reasons for this agreement is the negative effect the grain blockade had on poor nations. Russia agreed to lift the blockade because many poor nations might experience severe food shortages. But from different reports, it is only 4.5% of grains from Ukraine went to poorest nations. Most of them were diverted to influential nations.
Russia said it is willing to come back to the negotiation table. And as citizens of one of these developing nation I expect that this issue will be settled because the last time the gains supplies from Ukraine was halted, most of us couldn't afford bread. But the perfect solution to all these problems is a peaceful resolution of the war in Ukraine.
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July 20, 2023, 10:37:23 AM |
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Anything could be used as a weapon of war because all warring nations want to win by all means. Russia wants to pressurize the West to do its bidding because it seems that sanctions have started hitting the Russian economy hard. The economy that was portrayed as sanctioned poof is gradually losing its strength. The war is costing so much and it was not expected to last for this long. This halt in this grain deal will affect the world, especially poor nations.
But Russia also raised some valid points. The Kremlin claimed that the West is not keeping its part of the agreement. Russian agricultural products have been restricted from the international market, which is against the agreement. Another point is that one of the main reasons for this agreement is the negative effect the grain blockade had on poor nations. Russia agreed to lift the blockade because many poor nations might experience severe food shortages. But from different reports, it is only 4.5% of grains from Ukraine went to poorest nations. Most of them were diverted to influential nations.
Russia said it is willing to come back to the negotiation table. And as citizens of one of these developing nation I expect that this issue will be settled because the last time the gains supplies from Ukraine was halted, most of us couldn't afford bread. But the perfect solution to all these problems is a peaceful resolution of the war in Ukraine.
Yes, I also heard arguments that the terms of the grain deal were violated, since grain was actually supplied not to the poorest, but to developed (quite successful) countries. In my opinion, this is a rather weak argument. Additional volumes of grain entering the market, of course, affect the world price of grain. As a result, poorer countries can buy it at a lower price. In general, I believe that we should strive to ensure that there is an excess of food in the world. No one in the world should starve, let alone starve to death. Human interests must prevail over national interests. Nations are an abstraction. Nation states are a relic of the past. All people can have sex with people of other nationalities and have children from them Because all people belong to the same human species. This is our reality, not the illusions that politicians juggle. It is also necessary that there be no hatred towards other people in the hearts of people. Only love can save the world. https://youtu.be/wKX6JkG2W68
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July 20, 2023, 10:58:33 AM |
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But Russia also raised some valid points. The Kremlin claimed that the West is not keeping its part of the agreement. Russian agricultural products have been restricted from the international market, which is against the agreement. Another point is that one of the main reasons for this agreement is the negative effect the grain blockade had on poor nations. Russia agreed to lift the blockade because many poor nations might experience severe food shortages. But from different reports, it is only 4.5% of grains from Ukraine went to poorest nations. Most of them were diverted to influential nations.
It seems that you are using the data voiced by Putin, who, as you know, cannot be trusted. Statements by Russian President Putin that allegedly 45% of the grain in the framework of the "grain deal" were delivered to European countries and only 3% to Africa - do not correspond to reality. This was stated by the speaker of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Oleg Nikolenko. "Russia does not stop trying to undermine the Black Sea Grain Initiative. The indicated statistics are not true. From August 1, 2022 (to March 20, 2023), Ukraine exported 25.1 million tons of agricultural products through the grain corridor to 45 countries of the world: Africa - 2.9 million tons (11.6%) Asia - 12.1 million tons (48.2%) Europe - 10.1 million tons (40.2%) Russia is also well aware that part of the Ukrainian grain purchased by the “well-fed countries” of Europe is sent as humanitarian re-export to Africa and Asia. Therefore, the real statistics of exports to the African continent is even higher than 11.6%. Not to mention the fact that almost 50% of the production goes to support Asian countries," the Foreign Ministry spokesman said. Source: https://www.epravda.com.ua/rus/news/2023/03/20/698251/
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July 20, 2023, 11:32:32 AM |
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But Russia also raised some valid points. The Kremlin claimed that the West is not keeping its part of the agreement. Russian agricultural products have been restricted from the international market, which is against the agreement. Another point is that one of the main reasons for this agreement is the negative effect the grain blockade had on poor nations. Russia agreed to lift the blockade because many poor nations might experience severe food shortages. But from different reports, it is only 4.5% of grains from Ukraine went to poorest nations. Most of them were diverted to influential nations.
It seems that you are using the data voiced by Putin, who, as you know, cannot be trusted. Statements by Russian President Putin that allegedly 45% of the grain in the framework of the "grain deal" were delivered to European countries and only 3% to Africa - do not correspond to reality.This was stated by the speaker of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Oleg Nikolenko. "Russia does not stop trying to undermine the Black Sea Grain Initiative. The indicated statistics are not true. From August 1, 2022 (to March 20, 2023), Ukraine exported 25.1 million tons of agricultural products through the grain corridor to 45 countries of the world: Africa - 2.9 million tons (11.6%) Asia - 12.1 million tons (48.2%) Europe - 10.1 million tons (40.2%) Russia is also well aware that part of the Ukrainian grain purchased by the “well-fed countries” of Europe is sent as humanitarian re-export to Africa and Asia. Therefore, the real statistics of exports to the African continent is even higher than 11.6%. Not to mention the fact that almost 50% of the production goes to support Asian countries," the Foreign Ministry spokesman said. Source: https://www.epravda.com.ua/rus/news/2023/03/20/698251/Putin in his statement relied on UN data. If you scroll down the link, there is a UN infographic showing that low-income countries received only 2.5% of the total exported grain from Ukraine.
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Big thugs charging off the cliff instead of to their victim, not surprised at all.
If they continue on this trajectory of wasting their exports, sooner or later, when food prices start to go up in their own country, they will gain half a brain and start smuggling in some of it to Russia. Perhaps this has already happened. But expect it to be short-lived, because modern Russia cannot fight a protracted war for several years.
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~snip~ With its piracy, Russia is blackmailing the whole world, trying to partially lift sanctions for its military invasion of Ukraine and jeopardizing food security in the world, thereby increasing the threat of hunger in many poor countries of the world.
There is an old saying that says "In love and in war everything is allowed", and in the context of this saying why should this even be news if we know that Russia has already killed about 10 000 civilians (of which over 500 children) by aggression against a neighboring country. For them, it makes no difference whether they kill with weapons or by causing famine in some poor country. Besides, blackmail isn't going to help them, because we crossed the threshold long ago when negotiating with terrorists. It is true that some countries depend on cheap grain from Ukraine, but these needs will simply have to be covered from some other sources. Perhaps some think that Ukraine is irreplaceable in this regard, but only the EU produces as much as 6 times more grain than Ukraine, which this year is at only 21 000 metric tons, which is 12 000 metric tons less than the previous year. Source
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July 20, 2023, 02:23:51 PM |
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Thus, Russia stated that it intends to sink any civilian ships that will be sent to the Black Sea ports of Ukraine.
They're acting like a bully. The Black Sea doesn't belong to Russia! It's like saying that if you see anybody walking on the street in front of your house you'll shoot them. IMO countries should show their objection and send a group of ships, followed by a military escort, preferably in the air. If these transport ships are attacked, the escort should elliminate the attacker with air-sea missiles and that would be it. Bullies should be dealt with immediately, otherwise they will become more confident.
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July 20, 2023, 03:28:36 PM |
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Food security in the world has been shaken by Russia's actions
This ongoing conflict between Ukraine and Russia has had profound impact on human lives worldwide and its ripple effects are of global concerns. One of the significant consequence is logistic issue, resulting in food and gas shortage not only in war zone but all over the world as Ukraine and Russia are major suppliers of food items and petroleum products.The severity of this situation can potentially trigger severe economic meltdown globally that concerns all of us.. In the light of these grave circumstances, it is imperative for world community to take decisive actions and make vigorous efforts to facilitate a peaceful resolution to this conflict.
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July 20, 2023, 04:02:21 PM |
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I mean, it's just classic Russia at this point. They've committed lots of war crimes, and if they sink civilian ships with grain, it won't even make the top-10, unfortunately. I hope that Ukrainian ships will be accompanied by Turkish ships, ignoring Russia, and Russia won't dare to attack vessels accompanied by a NATO member, and vessels which are known to carry grains and nothing military-related. As for the countries getting the grain, of course I'll all up for low-income countries getting more of it, but that's still zero excuse to destroy Ukrainian grain (which they already did) and threaten to sink civilian cargo ships (which they currently intend to do). In terms of food security, though, I think the market is quite diverse, but the situation is already awful, so even a small change can result in preventable deaths.
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That is definitely horrifying situation. If some other country did not arise to form an alliance with the UN and affected countries for providing the food that is cut off then it’s gonna be nightmare. Many countries are incapable of growing the essential grains due to their geographical location and this is the main reason we have the import and export trades all over the world. This does not apply to grains only but there are many other Special food items that grow only to specific region, climate and soil around the globe and thus it creates demand in the other regions too. This is going to affect severely if continued for very long period of time. It is definitely decision that’s taken in the angry mode. Not good people!
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July 20, 2023, 07:32:47 PM |
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It's a retaliation for Ukrainian attacks strikes on the Kerch Bridge, but then, can we really talk about retaliation? Russia attacked first, so every consecutive Ukrainian response was already a retaliation. I agree that they're bullying the West. Russia is losing the war, not because it is close to losing all its military power, but because it cannot stop Ukraine from fighting back and cannot stabilize the occupied territories. The war cannot be won if you cannot secure the land. Both sides will keep throwing lead at each other until either one side gives up or runs out of resources.
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July 20, 2023, 07:52:00 PM |
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On July 17, 2023, Russia withdrew from the “grain agreement” and officially notified Turkey and Ukraine, as well as the UN secretariat, of its objection to the extension of the “grain deal” for the export of grain and other agricultural products from Ukrainian ports to the world market.
In connection with the termination of the Black Sea Initiative and the curtailment of the maritime humanitarian corridor, from 00:00 Moscow time on July 20, 2023, all ships en route to Ukrainian ports in the Black Sea will be considered as potential carriers of military cargo. Accordingly, the flag countries of such vessels will be considered involved in the Ukrainian conflict on the side of the Kyiv regime, the Russian Defense Ministry said.
Thus, Russia stated that it intends to sink any civilian ships that will be sent to the Black Sea ports of Ukraine. This will greatly complicate the delivery of agricultural products to many poor regions of the world. Due to Russia's sabotage of the "grain corridor" in recent months, the world has not received an additional 25 million tons of agricultural products from Ukraine. In total, 1,002 vessels left Ukrainian ports during the year of this agreement. According to the Ministry of Infrastructure of Ukraine, since the start of the “grain agreement”, more than 33 million tons of products of Ukrainian farmers have been exported to 45 countries of the world.
It is worth noting that after withdrawing from the grain deal, Russia has been attacking Ukrainian ports with missiles and drones for the third night in a row, trying to hit terminals with Ukrainian grain. So, on July 19, 60,000 tons of grain were destroyed in the terminal of the Ukrainian port of Chornomorsk, which was planned to be delivered to the world market two months ago.
With its piracy, Russia is blackmailing the whole world, trying to partially lift sanctions for its military invasion of Ukraine and jeopardizing food security in the world, thereby increasing the threat of hunger in many poor countries of the world.
Who would have thought a country that invaded it's neighbor, just because the people overthrew his dictator buddy, would stoop so low as to cut off food supplies that affect the poorest people around the world? Oh right, everyone! Every Russian who does not stand up or undermine Putin's government at every opportunity is guilty of supporting this terror. Putin literally has no other outlets for trying to force Ukraine to negotiate, but Ukraine has no interest in negotiating with this evil man and he could not be trusted anyway. Russia is an absolute joke of a country and their leader has taken them from faking an impressive army, to showing that they are completely incompetent. The sooner Putin is dead the better the world will be.
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Russian should change their strategy,the exports should be used wisely.When the food scarcity begins,the people of their own country will hold the food to get more money.The smuggling of food will increase in the Russia,if this condition will continuous in long run.This will not good for the Russia and the world population.Because Russia is the biggest powerful country as like the US,it will surely affect the developing country and under developing country lot.So the Russia should change their way of approach,it will prevent the world from food scarcity.
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July 20, 2023, 10:15:41 PM |
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I don't want it to appear as if there's more dependency on one particular country for the world sustainability inbterms of food supply and workforce needed in farming, this has to be the general opinion that we must all work on to give more priority to agriculture and let farming be what the government will support and encourage everyone to do, let's the whole world embacked on agricultural projects to encourage farming and sustainability for people not to rely on a single country for a particular supply, we are meant to help each other in food supply that's why you could important and export food items from one country to another.
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July 20, 2023, 11:39:56 PM |
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honestly it's hard to try to understand a dictator and even worse and harder to try to understand how such a large people can keep looking at the atrocities that his government is causing in another country with a senseless invasion and now blackmails the world by blocking the cereal agreement and even makes threats so that the Black Sea does not pass to the ports of Ukraine, I believe that the dictator was convinced that as Europe depended a lot on his gas and Ukraine was not a heavily armed country and he has chemical weapons so the invasion would go smoothly but it all got worse for him because ukraine is having strong support and this is prolonging the war
with many sanctions that were placed on the dictator's country, so now he is already seeing the circus closing for him and the more time passes, he will lose troops and weapons and his economy will retract and it will reach a point where his soldiers will no longer have the will to fight and in his country the people will not like him anymore because life will be hard. nobody wants to live with war and sanctions, unfortunately dictators don't think so, they even when they have a scenario in which they could go back and apologize and fix their mistakes they don't, for them the end is only with death or coups d'état in their own country, we've seen a lot happen throughout history
countries need to unite and put much more sanctions on the dictator's country in order to force a peace negotiation
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July 21, 2023, 03:43:25 AM |
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Russia is only part of the problem. I would say the main contributor to the food inflation is Covid. It started all these supply chain issues and with shortages everywhere they started to hike prices everywhere.
Companies saw that they could get away with it and using Covid as an excuse for their price hikes for food, so prices for food skyrocketed in many countries. Look at your grocery bill, you are pretty much paying double what you did back in 2018. So Russian is a small contributor but Covid is what created this mess to begin with.
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July 21, 2023, 02:28:52 PM |
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The Russian geopolitical events can have complex and far-reaching effects on global food supply chains, trade, and distribution.
In some cases, international sanctions or trade disruptions can impact food availability and prices, leading to food security concerns in certain regions. Additionally, actions that disrupt agricultural production or trade routes could have implications for food security.
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July 21, 2023, 02:44:14 PM |
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With all that have happened between Ukraine and Russia , I am a bit surprised that any nation in the world still depend on Russia for food supplies or any other of supplies what so ever. Relationship between countries is something I don't should be forced, if a country like Russia says they want to be on their own totally, I don't see a reason why they should not be allowed to be, instead of trying to force them into some kind of agreement which will only lead to more wastage of resources and possibly human lives, every country on their own should be up and doing in terms of food supplies and security, it is a shame on humanity if one nation, not to talk of the entire world at large, is thrown into hunger because one country decided to pull out from a grain agreement deal.
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