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September 07, 2023, 02:11:53 PM
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They just turned a blind eye to what could have made them rich.
They can't do so much with it as they've been taken advantage.
I wouldn't agree with this, all the media propaganda that the top-world countries have taken sway of the developing or underdeveloped nations are fallacies, I don't let reporters' reporting skills get into my head because most often some of them are bais. If you look at the settings in African countries for example, you would see that it's a mutual relationship (security, financial aid, political relevance etc.), so why are so many people letting others believe that some countries are cheating others?

Even at all, if some terms and conditions of an intercountry relationship are not okay for a nation anymore, that nation is entitled to decline further cooperation. No one can force any nation from harnessing their potential, only that Africans have not woken up, they've not embraced their leadership capability, creativity and potential, talkless of harnessing their natural resources, including lands to their advantage. And often times, their leaders are too corrupt and are some of the betrayers of their countries for more benefits and to the benefit of foreigners.

So, it's still part of the issues with them, there must be a change of mindset and attitude, and if they have a good leader that has integrity and the fear of God, and who can also shun corruption and could put the nation through, and cause their eye-opening, then better terms with foreigners and greater results as a nation would be achieved.
Specific on that nation, as you've said that they can decline such deals and partnerships but why is it that some or majority of it are still taken advantaged and approved.
That's what I think that they can't really do anything with that. Despite that they know that it won't be for the sake of their people but only for some rich folks.
Honestly, we know what's better for each of our nations pertaining certain issues. But the sad part is that, we can just discuss it but the changes won't be applied as it's in the hands of the rulers.


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September 07, 2023, 07:09:54 PM
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This war will be extended. I think this is not just a war between Ukraine and Russia. This is considered a war between NATO and Russia. President Putin believes that he has carefully prepared for this war and has solved the problem from the countless sanctions that the West imposed on Russia. Putin has launched harsh counterattacks on Western gas and food.
Russia's failure to agree to extend the Black Sea Agreement makes the risk of a global food crisis once again closer than ever.
This war will last a long time if NATO continues to intervene and the US continues to supply weapons. In the end, the impact of this war made everyone panic and only made third countries hungry, while Putin ensured that food supply to African countries was smooth.
The UN must have the right solution to end this war, the UN must not defend the interests of America and the EU. The UN was founded not to defend one country or a particular group of countries, the UN must be fair and wise in looking at it. And the UN must not be dictated to by a group of countries, the UN must have wisdom in solving problems, not making problems or situations worse.

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On July 17, 2023, Russia withdrew from the “grain agreement” and officially notified Turkey and Ukraine, as well as the UN secretariat, of its objection to the extension of the “grain deal” for the export of grain and other agricultural products from Ukrainian ports to the world market.

In connection with the termination of the Black Sea Initiative and the curtailment of the maritime humanitarian corridor, from 00:00 Moscow time on July 20, 2023, all ships en route to Ukrainian ports in the Black Sea will be considered as potential carriers of military cargo. Accordingly, the flag countries of such vessels will be considered involved in the Ukrainian conflict on the side of the Kyiv regime, the Russian Defense Ministry said.

Thus, Russia stated that it intends to sink any civilian ships that will be sent to the Black Sea ports of Ukraine. This will greatly complicate the delivery of agricultural products to many poor regions of the world. Due to Russia's sabotage of the "grain corridor" in recent months, the world has not received an additional 25 million tons of agricultural products from Ukraine. In total, 1,002 vessels left Ukrainian ports during the year of this agreement. According to the Ministry of Infrastructure of Ukraine, since the start of the “grain agreement”, more than 33 million tons of products of Ukrainian farmers have been exported to 45 countries of the world.

It is worth noting that after withdrawing from the grain deal, Russia has been attacking Ukrainian ports with missiles and drones for the third night in a row, trying to hit terminals with Ukrainian grain. So, on July 19, 60,000 tons of grain were destroyed in the terminal of the Ukrainian port of Chornomorsk, which was planned to be delivered to the world market two months ago.

With its piracy, Russia is blackmailing the whole world, trying to partially lift sanctions for its military invasion of Ukraine and jeopardizing food security in the world, thereby increasing the threat of hunger in many poor countries of the world.

Russia grows weaker every day they leave the lunatic Putin in charge, and the rest of the world grows stronger. Maybe one day the Russian people will wake up a realize the fool they've left in charge while he's gone senile. Sadly it is the poorest in the world who will be most affected by Putin's actions in attacking one of the biggest grain producers in the world and restricting grain exports during this war. It's funny the leaders in certain African countries praise him, while he kills their people via starvation, but we know they are untouched and living the lives of luxury. The sooner this war ends, the sooner everything can start to heal. Construction is a lot more positive and helpful than the destruction he brought for no reason.

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September 08, 2023, 06:59:34 AM
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This war will be extended. I think this is not just a war between Ukraine and Russia. This is considered a war between NATO and Russia. President Putin believes that he has carefully prepared for this war and has solved the problem from the countless sanctions that the West imposed on Russia. Putin has launched harsh counterattacks on Western gas and food.
Russia's failure to agree to extend the Black Sea Agreement makes the risk of a global food crisis once again closer than ever.
This war will last a long time if NATO continues to intervene and the US continues to supply weapons. In the end, the impact of this war made everyone panic and only made third countries hungry, while Putin ensured that food supply to African countries was smooth.
The UN must have the right solution to end this war, the UN must not defend the interests of America and the EU. The UN was founded not to defend one country or a particular group of countries, the UN must be fair and wise in looking at it. And the UN must not be dictated to by a group of countries, the UN must have wisdom in solving problems, not making problems or situations worse.


Please tell me - is the destruction of Ukraine an acceptable option for you to end the Russian terror ?
Putin has provided for African countries ? Are you serious? So the fact that he is trying to "feed" some tame dogs with grain stolen from Ukraine is help ? The fact that now he has ordered the maximum destruction of the port infrastructure in the south of Ukraine in order to disrupt grain shipments, including to those very African countries.
But the good thing is that the CIVILIZED world will continue to help destroy the new brown plague - RASHISM. And we will see the terrorist country collapse, and you will be very surprised, but after its collapse - the whole world terrorism will suddenly collapse !  This is a really interesting fact by the way Smiley You can even observe in history - as soon as Russia/USSR/RF had really big problems - world terror suddenly began to decline ! Smiley

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September 08, 2023, 07:14:18 AM
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This war will last a long time if NATO continues to intervene and the US continues to supply weapons. In the end, the impact of this war made everyone panic and only made third countries hungry, while Putin ensured that food supply to African countries was smooth.
The UN must have the right solution to end this war, the UN must not defend the interests of America and the EU. The UN was founded not to defend one country or a particular group of countries, the UN must be fair and wise in looking at it. And the UN must not be dictated to by a group of countries, the UN must have wisdom in solving problems, not making problems or situations worse.
That is, you want to say that the United States and other NATO members should not supply weapons to Ukraine and thus the war will end faster by quickly destroying Ukraine and a significant part of Ukrainians by Russia?

Did you know that on December 5, 1994, the leaders of Ukraine, Russia, Great Britain and the United States signed a memorandum of security guarantees for Ukraine in connection with Ukraine’s accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons? These states, including Russia, pledged not only not to attack Ukraine in order to change its territory, but they themselves were guarantors of the security of such non-aggression by other states. At the same time, Ukraine abandoned the third most powerful nuclear potential, transferred its nuclear weapons, strategic bombers and even long-range missiles to Russia, and now Russia has treacherously violated the terms of this agreement and is firing Ukrainian missiles from Ukrainian aircraft at peaceful cities in Ukraine. The United States and other NATO countries, by now providing weapons to Ukraine, are fulfilling the terms of the Budapest Memorandum on guarantees for the security of Ukraine. Ukraine tried to be an absolutely peaceful state and began to sharply reduce its armed forces. At the time of the Russian attack in 2014, Ukraine had only a few tens of thousands of combat-ready army. But, as it turned out, the proverb that if you want peace, prepare for war remains true. Therefore, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are now one of the best armies in the world with invaluable experience of modern warfare and are successfully beating the Russian “second army of the world.”

The UN is supposed to ensure that countries comply with the UN Charter, which Russia has now completely violated by trying to seize Ukraine militarily. In this war, Russia is the attacking party and the aggressor, and Ukraine is only defending its freedom and independence. For some reason you completely forgot about this. This war will end immediately if Russia withdraws its troops from Ukraine.

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September 08, 2023, 07:24:48 AM
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They just turned a blind eye to what could have made them rich.
They can't do so much with it as they've been taken advantage.
I wouldn't agree with this, all the media propaganda that the top-world countries have taken sway of the developing or underdeveloped nations are fallacies, I don't let reporters' reporting skills get into my head because most often some of them are bais. If you look at the settings in African countries for example, you would see that it's a mutual relationship (security, financial aid, political relevance etc.), so why are so many people letting others believe that some countries are cheating others?

Even at all, if some terms and conditions of an intercountry relationship are not okay for a nation anymore, that nation is entitled to decline further cooperation. No one can force any nation from harnessing their potential, only that Africans have not woken up, they've not embraced their leadership capability, creativity and potential, talkless of harnessing their natural resources, including lands to their advantage. And often times, their leaders are too corrupt and are some of the betrayers of their countries for more benefits and to the benefit of foreigners.

So, it's still part of the issues with them, there must be a change of mindset and attitude, and if they have a good leader that has integrity and the fear of God, and who can also shun corruption and could put the nation through, and cause their eye-opening, then better terms with foreigners and greater results as a nation would be achieved.
Specific on that nation, as you've said that they can decline such deals and partnerships but why is it that some or majority of it are still taken advantaged and approved.
That's what I think that they can't really do anything with that. Despite that they know that it won't be for the sake of their people but only for some rich folks.
Honestly, we know what's better for each of our nations pertaining certain issues. But the sad part is that, we can just discuss it but the changes won't be applied as it's in the hands of the rulers.
I should specify??? There are countless of them, but specifically in Africa, you can see many of them in Francophone nations. People should stop pitying these nations as if their hands are tied. As a sovereign nation you have your rights, but will their leaders help the rights manifest due to their selfish gain? That's the issue here. I've even explained what you asked in the earlier reply and be sure that if they say "No" today, it becomes binding and the whole world will support them, even fellow African nations will support them more.

Also, people and media are getting the gist wrongly, or perhaps some media are biased and some would want to say what people want to hear. The agreement with France for example in such nations is bilateral and has mutual gains. France gains with mineral resources at low prices while those countries have security and political gain, including financial aid. And if not for France, I wonder if terrorists wouldn't have taken over most of the West African nations, they don't have what it takes to repel them. But people do forget this. It would have been better if African leaders were not corrupt too, they could negotiate better, but instead, would connive with foreigners to swindle the nation.

Who is to blame?

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September 08, 2023, 07:54:57 AM
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This war will be extended. I think this is not just a war between Ukraine and Russia. This is considered a war between NATO and Russia. President Putin believes that he has carefully prepared for this war and has solved the problem from the countless sanctions that the West imposed on Russia. Putin has launched harsh counterattacks on Western gas and food.
Russia's failure to agree to extend the Black Sea Agreement makes the risk of a global food crisis once again closer than ever.
This war will last a long time if NATO continues to intervene and the US continues to supply weapons. In the end, the impact of this war made everyone panic and only made third countries hungry, while Putin ensured that food supply to African countries was smooth.
The UN must have the right solution to end this war, the UN must not defend the interests of America and the EU. The UN was founded not to defend one country or a particular group of countries, the UN must be fair and wise in looking at it. And the UN must not be dictated to by a group of countries, the UN must have wisdom in solving problems, not making problems or situations worse.

But the problem is that the United Nations is also led by the US and all decisions of the UN are also decided by the US, so they cannot act as a bridge to mediate this war. The war has lasted for 2 years and still no one is strong enough to mediate between the two sides. I also believe that the war will not end until America has truly achieved its goals. They even just supplied Ukraine with depleted uranium ammunition, which is known to cause cancer rates and birth defects for generations to come. They want to create more tension by using cluster bombs and now uranium munitions for Ukraine.



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We know that Ukraine is called the breadbasket of the world and most of the world's wheat is produced there, and especially Russia, Ukraine is the world's leading producer of wheat Many countries depend on their food grains, especially Asian and African countries, depending on those two countries to import food Those ports that were allowed to export are on the way to a halt due to Russia's attack, resulting in severe food shortages in the world's poor nations as they are not getting enough food grains.If Russia does not allow the use of Black Sea ports, the scenario is more dire.As a result of this war, various countries are suffering from severe energy crisis Can't produce food, can't fertilize properly, can't transport agricultural products, can't do anything about marketing, resulting in food crisis.Russia's aggressive attitude after another will further disrupt food production, and both Ukraine and Russia will be hampered in their exports, resulting in severe food shortages for poorer countries There will be a food crisis. Most of the countries in the African region depend on the food of these two countries, and the countries in the Asian region such as India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, etc. will face a lot of food crisis because these countries are Russia depends on less or other products.Ukraine's main source of economic strength is its food exports, but due to the war, it is unable to produce and export as much as it wants Russia and other countries to The embargo has been lifted, and they can export food, but Russia is forcing Ukraine to stop doing this through blackmail one after another, and is squeezing from all sides, as a result of which the world Inviting more hungry and other countries playing about food and food and these two countries
Let's say that if we can stop Russian aggression and teach those who supported Ukraine, then hopefully all problems will be solved.As a result of Russia's actions, the global food system is not only shaky but on the verge of collapsing and will create starving conditions in developed countries.
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September 08, 2023, 12:36:03 PM
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But the problem is that the United Nations is also led by the US and all decisions of the UN are also decided by the US, so they cannot act as a bridge to mediate this war. The war has lasted for 2 years and still no one is strong enough to mediate between the two sides. I also believe that the war will not end until America has truly achieved its goals. They even just supplied Ukraine with depleted uranium ammunition, which is known to cause cancer rates and birth defects for generations to come. They want to create more tension by using cluster bombs and now uranium munitions for Ukraine.

Tell me - why isn't there a word about in your touching post:
- the destruction of dozens of Ukrainian cities, and thousands of villages
- hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian citizens destroyed. Peaceful citizens. Destroyed in an extremely sadistic manner.
- about the terrorist attacks that led to global economic, human and environmental tragedies.
- Russia's violation of all treaties and laws since 2014.
- the use of prohibited weapons against the civilian population of Ukraine since 2014.

I understand in 1939-1945, you should have been outraged why the US helps Britain sink the German Navy, provides arms to Britain, USSR and other countries ? Is that correct ? Or "that other thing" ? 

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September 08, 2023, 12:59:11 PM
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This war will last a long time if NATO continues to intervene and the US continues to supply weapons. In the end, the impact of this war made everyone panic and only made third countries hungry, while Putin ensured that food supply to African countries was smooth.
The UN must have the right solution to end this war, the UN must not defend the interests of America and the EU. The UN was founded not to defend one country or a particular group of countries, the UN must be fair and wise in looking at it. And the UN must not be dictated to by a group of countries, the UN must have wisdom in solving problems, not making problems or situations worse.
The UN definitely has a wiser solution to resolve this problem because the UN itself clearly knows what their role is in this matter so you don't need to think that it is easier for the UN to be dictated to by a group of countries or groups of people who have an interest in this matter. Any war will indeed have an adverse effect on several other important sectors such as the economic sector, so all parties should be able to find a solution to resolve this even though it is more directed at the United Nations, but other parties can also provide a solution as long as it is for the good of all country and not just personal interests.

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It is true that the war between Russia and Ukraine is affecting many poor countries. But we know that any side in a war does a lot to win.  Russia is also trying hard to win.  But as far as I know Russia wants to lift their ban.  And willing to hold a discussion meeting.  The only solution to this problem is a peace agreement between the two countries.  Many 3rd parties here want the war to continue.  Both Russia and Ukraine should come forward to end this ongoing war


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It is true that the war between Russia and Ukraine is affecting many poor countries. But we know that any side in a war does a lot to win.  Russia is also trying hard to win.  But as far as I know Russia wants to lift their ban.  And willing to hold a discussion meeting.  The only solution to this problem is a peace agreement between the two countries.  Many 3rd parties here want the war to continue.  Both Russia and Ukraine should come forward to end this ongoing war

And you don't want to voice the official Russian demands that they have been trying to slip in for a year now ?
I will tell you - recognition of the occupied territories as Russian territories, refusal to prosecute for Russia's crimes, lifting of sanctions, Ukraine's obligations not to join the EU and NATO, and so on.
Say - if a homicidal maniac breaks into your house, destroys part of your family, steals your money, things, breaks everything in the house, and says - no no, no police, what claims to me, you are to blame for everything! And demand the following - you give me always half of the house, officially recognize me as a friend, and to me on your part no claims will not be, and I will tell you how you live and what you do.
What would you say to that if it affected you in that way? Honestly?

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Oh look who the cat drug in! You're still here? The Eastern front is waiting! You have to leave immediately and fight for the glory of Ukraine! Remember, they're now accepting retarded people like you!  Grin

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Tell me - why isn't there a word about in your touching post:
- the destruction of dozens of Ukrainian cities, and thousands of villages

Tell me: where these cities and villages destroyed exclusively by the Russians? It's like AFU is shelling Russian trenches and the Russians are shelling the civilians? What's the point in that? No-one in his right mind would spend ammo to destroy cities instead of the military. Only a bozo like you can suggest something like this.  Grin

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- hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian citizens destroyed. Peaceful citizens. Destroyed in an extremely sadistic manner.

You're a total liar and a clown:

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Ukraine war civilian deaths cross grim milestone of 9,500
Source: https://efe.com/en/latest-news/2023-08-28/ukraine-war-civilian-deaths-cross-grim-milestone-of-9500/

Or perhaps you wanted to say "hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian troops destroyed"?  Grin That could be a fact. And no source, I'm kinda used to that.

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- about the terrorist attacks that led to global economic, human and environmental tragedies.
Terrorist attacks like drone attacks on Russian cities? Or environmental disasters like US/Ukraine blowing up Nord Stream? Or economic tragedies like smothering global economy by sanctions? Attacks like that, right?  Grin

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- Russia's violation of all treaties and laws since 2014.

Like what treaties and laws? Source? Oh wait, I forgot I'm talking to a clown.  Grin

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- the use of prohibited weapons against the civilian population of Ukraine since 2014.

Like what? You probably mean using depleted uranium ammo and cluster bombs, right? RIGHT?  Grin
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Tell me: where these cities and villages destroyed exclusively by the Russians? It's like AFU is shelling Russian trenches and the Russians are shelling the civilians? What's the point in that? No-one in his right mind would spend ammo to destroy cities instead of the military.

Russia fires cruise missiles at the entire territory of Ukraine almost every day and launches dozens of attack drones. You can tell different things about where the Russians are aiming, but the missiles mainly hit civilian infrastructure and residential buildings of civilian citizens of Ukraine. Either the Russians have crooked hands, or the Russians’ military equipment is so inaccurate, or they still deliberately shoot in such a way as to cause more harm to the economy of Ukraine and kill more civilians. Just yesterday, on September 8, Russia launched missile attacks on Sumy, Zaporozhye and Krivoy Rog, where civilian infrastructure and residential buildings were hit.
Source:
https://rus.azattyq.org/a/32584034.html

I can also give you an example. On September 6, the Russians fired rockets at the market in the city of Konstantinovka, Donetsk region. The attack took place around 2 p.m., when there were a lot of people in the market. There are 17 deaths and 32 wounded among the civilian population. 28 trade pavilions were destroyed. There were no military targets nearby, that is, the attack was carried out exclusively on civilians. There is already a reaction from officials in the US, Europe and other countries to this terrorist attack.
Source:
https://uatv.ua/takoj-tragedii-gorod-eshhe-ne-videl-posledstviya-rossijskogo-obstrela-rynka-v-konstantinovke-video/

So you are saying that there is no point in such shelling? No one in their right mind would waste ammunition on destroying cities instead of an army? Apparently the Kremlin and the Russian army have not been guided by common sense for a long time, because this has been going on for a year and a half.

In the combat zone in the Donetsk region and southern Ukraine, the destruction by Russians of 70-90 percent of cities and other settlements during their “liberation” has generally become a normal practice. After this war, the numbers and real consequences of the actions of the Russian occupation forces will definitely be announced. Over 71 thousand crimes of the occupiers have already been registered in Ukraine. In due time, they will be announced by the international tribunal when condemning racism.

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Like what treaties and laws? Source? Oh wait, I forgot I'm talking to a clown.  Grin


...observing your behavior, I am sure you are a resident of Russia Smiley Nah, well, what else is psychiatry at such a low level, at the level of the Stone Age Smiley

Here we go, I'll dunk your empty head in reality again.

One simple answer is enough to realize that everything else is also your primitive, habitual, but stupid lie Smiley

So, before Russia's terrorist attack on Ukraine, the relationship between the countries was described by several fundamental laws and memorandums:

1. "Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Partnership between the Russian Federation and Ukraine", dated May 31, 1997

According to the treaty, both countries guarantee the rights and freedoms of citizens of the other country on the same basis and to the same extent as their own citizens, except in cases established by the national legislation of the states or their international treaties.

Each country shall protect, in accordance with the established procedure, the rights of its citizens residing in the territory of the other country, in accordance with its obligations under the documents of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe and other universally recognized principles and norms of international law and the agreements within the Commonwealth of Independent States to which it is a party.

Ukraine and Russia take the necessary measures on their territories, including the adoption of appropriate legislation, to prevent and suppress any acts constituting incitement to violence or violence based on national, racial, ethnic or religious intolerance.

Ukraine and Russia cooperate in the UN and other international organizations, including economic, financial, support each other in joining international organizations and acceding to agreements and conventions to which neither country is a party.

Both sides have pledged to respect each other's territorial integrity and reaffirmed the inviolability of the existing borders between them.

2. Memorandum on Security Assurances in Connection with Ukraine's Accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (Budapest Memorandum) - an interstate document on security assurances in connection with Ukraine's accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. Signed on December 5, 1994 by the leaders of Ukraine, Russia, Great Britain and the United States.

Text of the memorandum
- The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm to Ukraine their commitment, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the CSCE, to respect the independence, sovereignty and existing borders of Ukraine.
-The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their arms will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defense or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.
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- The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to seek immediate action by the United Nations Security Council to assist Ukraine as a non-nuclear-weapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons in the event that Ukraine becomes the victim of an act of aggression or the object of a threat of aggression using nuclear weapons.
- The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm with respect to Ukraine their commitment not to use nuclear weapons against any non-nuclear-weapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons except in the event of an attack on them, their territories or dependent territories, their armed forces or their allies by such a State acting together with a nuclear-weapon State or by an alliance agreement associated with it.
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3. "Helsinki Accords," dated August 1, 1975.
.... and a host of others of lesser significance, but to which the terrorist country was a signatory
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Tell me - why isn't there a word about in your touching post:
- the destruction of dozens of Ukrainian cities, and thousands of villages
- hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian citizens destroyed. Peaceful citizens. Destroyed in an extremely sadistic manner.
- about the terrorist attacks that led to global economic, human and environmental tragedies.
- Russia's violation of all treaties and laws since 2014.
- the use of prohibited weapons against the civilian population of Ukraine since 2014.

I understand in 1939-1945, you should have been outraged why the US helps Britain sink the German Navy, provides arms to Britain, USSR and other countries ? Is that correct ? Or "that other thing" ? 

I really don't want to argue too much because your country is a victim of war, I understand what you are going through. Just like my country in 1945, the British colonialists, then the French and American imperialists invaded my country one after another. But what's worse is that America failed and they used and sprayed dioxin for 10 consecutive years to destroy our entire nation. I think you will easily find the harmful effects of that deadly poison.

There is no good country, everything is for their national interests and power. So don't try to idolize or worship any country, especially great powers. Don't worship them more than your parents. We also need to recognize the cause of the problem, not to be led by the nose or become a pawn for others.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dioxin



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Tell me - why isn't there a word about in your touching post:
- the destruction of dozens of Ukrainian cities, and thousands of villages
- hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian citizens destroyed. Peaceful citizens. Destroyed in an extremely sadistic manner.
- about the terrorist attacks that led to global economic, human and environmental tragedies.
- Russia's violation of all treaties and laws since 2014.
- the use of prohibited weapons against the civilian population of Ukraine since 2014.

I understand in 1939-1945, you should have been outraged why the US helps Britain sink the German Navy, provides arms to Britain, USSR and other countries ? Is that correct ? Or "that other thing" ?  

I really don't want to argue too much because your country is a victim of war, I understand what you are going through. Just like my country in 1945, the British colonialists, then the French and American imperialists invaded my country one after another. But what's worse is that America failed and they used and sprayed dioxin for 10 consecutive years to destroy our entire nation. I think you will easily find the harmful effects of that deadly poison.

There is no good country, everything is for their national interests and power. So don't try to idolize or worship any country, especially great powers. Don't worship them more than your parents. We also need to recognize the cause of the problem, not to be led by the nose or become a pawn for others.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dioxin

But I do not propose to argue, I am stating the facts of crimes committed by a terrorist country - Russia! And also the fact that many countries in the developed West are fulfilling their human duty in the fight against RASCHISM.
A significant part of the charges have already been recognized at the official international level, including a crime, a copy of the Nazi regime, the abduction and removal of children from occupied territories, for which a certain Putin V, V, is wanted by the International CRIMINAL Tribunal in The Hague.
What is there to argue about? The court ruled and the international community recognized the crimes.

And the most important thing is that Russia has shown the whole world that it is possible to violate international agreements and destabilize the security of not only the region but also the whole world, if some regime has the right not to bear responsibility and punishment! Plus, most likely, after the defeat of Russia, the world will reconsider the work and expediency of some international organizations that can only receive money but not fulfill their obligations, such as the UN, the Red Cross and many other “impotent” structures


Is this your post?

But the problem is that the United Nations is also led by the US and all decisions of the UN are also decided by the US, so they cannot act as a bridge to mediate this war. The war has lasted for 2 years and still no one is strong enough to mediate between the two sides. I also believe that the war will not end until America has truly achieved its goals. They even just supplied Ukraine with depleted uranium ammunition, which is known to cause cancer rates and birth defects for generations to come. They want to create more tension by using cluster bombs and now uranium munitions for Ukraine.


Here you don’t say a word about the fact that the initiator and aggressor is Russia, and Ukraine is defending itself, and it is being helped not only by the United States but by the whole world. Moreover, the United States and Britain are fulfilling their obligations under the Budapest Memorandum. But you blame the United States for this war and for supporting Ukraine’s weapons. This is really an absolutely controversial idea

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This war will last a long time if NATO continues to intervene and the US continues to supply weapons. In the end, the impact of this war made everyone panic and only made third countries hungry, while Putin ensured that food supply to African countries was smooth.
The UN must have the right solution to end this war, the UN must not defend the interests of America and the EU. The UN was founded not to defend one country or a particular group of countries, the UN must be fair and wise in looking at it. And the UN must not be dictated to by a group of countries, the UN must have wisdom in solving problems, not making problems or situations worse.
Putin and his troops continue to bomb and shell Ukraine’s Black Sea port infrastructure, elevators and grain storage facilities. Thus, Putin is deliberately creating a shortage of grain that will not reach world markets, and this, in turn, will increase prices. Doesn't this bother you? Is this how Putin ensures uninterrupted food supplies to African countries? Or by taking stolen grain from the occupied territories of Ukraine and trying to sell it to third countries?

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Tell me: where these cities and villages destroyed exclusively by the Russians? It's like AFU is shelling Russian trenches and the Russians are shelling the civilians? What's the point in that? No-one in his right mind would spend ammo to destroy cities instead of the military.

Russia fires cruise missiles at the entire territory of Ukraine almost every day and launches dozens of attack drones. You can tell different things about where the Russians are aiming, but the missiles mainly hit civilian infrastructure and residential buildings of civilian citizens of Ukraine. Either the Russians have crooked hands, or the Russians’ military equipment is so inaccurate, or they still deliberately shoot in such a way as to cause more harm to the economy of Ukraine and kill more civilians. Just yesterday, on September 8, Russia launched missile attacks on Sumy, Zaporozhye and Krivoy Rog, where civilian infrastructure and residential buildings were hit.
Source:
https://rus.azattyq.org/a/32584034.html

I can also give you an example. On September 6, the Russians fired rockets at the market in the city of Konstantinovka, Donetsk region. The attack took place around 2 p.m., when there were a lot of people in the market. There are 17 deaths and 32 wounded among the civilian population. 28 trade pavilions were destroyed. There were no military targets nearby, that is, the attack was carried out exclusively on civilians. There is already a reaction from officials in the US, Europe and other countries to this terrorist attack.
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https://uatv.ua/takoj-tragedii-gorod-eshhe-ne-videl-posledstviya-rossijskogo-obstrela-rynka-v-konstantinovke-video/

So you are saying that there is no point in such shelling? No one in their right mind would waste ammunition on destroying cities instead of an army? Apparently the Kremlin and the Russian army have not been guided by common sense for a long time, because this has been going on for a year and a half.

Bad news for you, troll: it was a Ukrainian missile. It's actually AFU destroying their own citizens! 

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But evidence collected and analyzed by The New York Times, including missile fragments, satellite imagery, witness accounts and social media posts, strongly suggests the catastrophic strike was the result of an errant Ukrainian air defense missile fired by a Buk launch system.

The attack appears to have been a tragic mishap. Air defense experts say missiles like the one that hit the market can go off course for a variety of reasons, including an electronic malfunction or a guidance fin that is damaged or sheared off at the time of launch.

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/18/world/europe/ukraine-missile-kostiantynivka-market.html

There are also reports of other incidents involving air defence systems in Ukraine, when missiles miss aircraft or enemy rocket and hit residential buildings. But I guess Russia is to blame for poor skills of AFU personnel?   Grin
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The situation is changing. It was necessary to put StormShadow in Ukraine, as the Black Sea fleet of the "second army of the world", staggered, and some even went to the bottom Smiley After that, the "terrible, invincible and unparalleled" remaining fleet of the terrorist country, cowardly moved to the Sea of Azov, and now has completely forgotten about its formidable promises to "consider any ships going to Ukrainian ports as those that carry weapons", and quietly sits in the docks and harbors Smiley
I have been saying for a long time - terrorists should be simply destroyed, and they become "quiet and calm".

PS About the Sea of Azov - and here a new surprise awaits the fleet of the terrorist country.... but about it a little later Smiley

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