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August 14, 2023, 01:17:23 PM
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Personally, I won around x50 - x100 plenty of times through small sports accumulator bets and was never asked to submit KYC so far though the amounts weren't huge or anything.

Almost every crypto gambling site will request KYC if the amount is huge these days though only a couple of them give bullshit excuses even after providing KYC.

Smaller withdrawals could bypass KYC, but it would take a lot longer to fully access your winnings.

Really, you are great. Are you still playing the sports bet you are talking about? Which platform are you referring to? Is it still operational? I'm just curious because I want to try the platform you mentioned.

Because you're right, almost the majority of crypto casinos now demand Kyc, especially if the platform knows that you'll be withdrawing a large amount of money from their gambling casino, but you've had 50-100 cases where you've never been asked for Kyc. when you took out what you won, for sure there were a lot of gamblers playing there as you said that, right?



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August 14, 2023, 02:15:14 PM
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True , as soon as an user hits a big win or a jackpot , the bookies will obligate you to make KYC and that is completely fine as long as you don't have something to hide on your side.

Smaller withdrawals are not worthy for a bookie to make you complete the KYC but if you hit a lot of small win consecutive , at some point , you will have to make KYC to actually continuing to play there. Grin

This is not to be so because it could mean the casino already know that gamblers are only wasting their money by not winning big. They are suppose to keep it a flat regulation for everyone both big or small winner or they forget the aspect of KYC. When a casino set such rule, it looks biase like whoever wins big or a jackpot have done something wrong or has scammed and has to go through KYC. It is not looking nice for such biase rule. This is also the reason that some winners have complained when they win big and the tales of KYC begin to show up. Hence, it is better that bettors know the casino rule and if there is a clause on KYC to be done in the future, it is better to pass it before you start playing.

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August 14, 2023, 02:43:54 PM
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I do not think that too many have won with that kind of setup. Majority of the people here have been gambling for a long time but if it's about winning, you'll see how many are happy to share those moments, of course. And it has become a norm when someone wins big, the casino will ask you kyc for that. They also need to comply to their government so whether you like it or not, you have to.

Personally, I won around x50 - x100 plenty of times through small sports accumulator bets and was never asked to submit KYC so far though the amounts weren't huge or anything.
That's nice to hear that you haven't asked to submit kyc when that's a lot of money that you've won against that casino you've played with.

Almost every crypto gambling site will request KYC if the amount is huge these days though only a couple of them give bullshit excuses even after providing KYC.
That's right, it is to be expected when you're gambling and you suddenly won huge amounts these days. Even if there's a promise that there will be no kyc from the beginning, you don't believe that.

Smaller withdrawals could bypass KYC, but it would take a lot longer to fully access your winnings.
They'll notice it if you'll withdraw in many small parts and will still end up being kyced.

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August 14, 2023, 02:57:08 PM
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True, but only one in a thousand people can get lucky like that in fact, I think it will be very rare for a gambler who can be lucky with a small bet to get a big win or jackpot and not all types of games or bets can provide this opportunity.
Yes, because playing gambling, for example slot machines and some casino games like that, these games always rely on luck so it can happen that even though a small bet can get a jackpot, I have never been too into playing slots but someone has won it with a small bet even though the jackpot is not too big according to the amount of bets that are made, as you say one in a thousand lucky people every day gets that opportunity.

But the fact is that on the ground most of them, when they win, forget themselves and keep playing gambling until all the wins are used up, they don't withdraw their winnings quickly, because if a true gambler manages to get an opportunity to win like that, he will definitely withdraw money immediately and withdraw from the platform, different with the losers they will continue the game to get even bigger wins.  Grin

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August 14, 2023, 03:44:31 PM
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True, but only one in a thousand people can get lucky like that in fact, I think it will be very rare for a gambler who can be lucky with a small bet to get a big win or jackpot and not all types of games or bets can provide this opportunity.
Yes, because playing gambling, for example slot machines and some casino games like that, these games always rely on luck so it can happen that even though a small bet can get a jackpot, I have never been too into playing slots but someone has won it with a small bet even though the jackpot is not too big according to the amount of bets that are made, as you say one in a thousand lucky people every day gets that opportunity.

True in slots game a small bet can be multiplied to thousands times or hundred thousand times depending on the maxwin of the slots.  Just like what happen to this guy in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5463081.40, he won a huge amount of money without depositing although the withdrawal request is delayed due to some verification (the casino did not even asked for KYC but the guy did it to hasten the process) and eventually released the winning amount worth $99k.  This is a big boost of reputation to Bitcasino.io platform.

But the fact is that on the ground most of them, when they win, forget themselves and keep playing gambling until all the wins are used up, they don't withdraw their winnings quickly, because if a true gambler manages to get an opportunity to win like that, he will definitely withdraw money immediately and withdraw from the platform, different with the losers they will continue the game to get even bigger wins.  Grin

Yeah, others got addicted to winning that they found themselves chasing it again and again until they end up badly.

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August 14, 2023, 06:33:15 PM
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   -   In this generation I don't think I've ever seen anyone like that who won a large sum of money with a small amount entered in a casino. It seems that this is no longer a realistic or realistic event. As far as I know, most people who play here in crypto gambling only deposit a small amount and maybe others are still taking chances that they might get lucky and win a large amount.

But so far it seems that no one is getting anything like that, even if someone wins but it's not big, but they still win compared to the amount that was entered to match.
I remember a guy had posted somewhere in this forum that they have won about $2,000 with just a spin of a few cents which was probably a pretty big win considering his country of residence, I think he was from Nigeria which we know isn't a very advanced and developed country. So I believe some people do manage to get some wins from here and there but they are obviously not life-changing because such things only happen to a few out of millions.

Every single gambler has the wish when they gamble that they win something that may change their lives for good, but it barely happens, this hope keeps them gambling even if they are using small amounts, they spend a lot of money on it if they are counted in a few years.

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In gambling there's no amount one is not liable to win irrespective of the staking rate used, not every gambler using a huge amount to gamble wins big, but the rate of the risk involved that some gamblers took in using a smaller amount and use to gamble and they win massively, we should not be distracted by this because it's a rare occurrence in gambling, winning or loosing is not in the staking amount but how accurate we could predict the bet we made for a win.

You're right, your staking amount doesn't mean you'll win but for some gamblers, the more they stake the higher their chances of winning but this doesn't have anything to do with the fairness of the game. It's just how it works for them and when they bet small they lose.

I have a friend that doesn't bet if he isn't using five digits figures, when he use just few dollars he'll lose and that's his superstition. Our beliefs can influence the outcome of the games we bet on. This is because superstition can give us confidence or make you lose it.

Before betting you have to believe that you're going to win that game, if you don't believe then there's no point betting unless you want to throwaway your money. Having confidence will make you think straight and your choices will be those that can make you win and not lose.

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August 14, 2023, 08:31:13 PM
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   -   In this generation I don't think I've ever seen anyone like that who won a large sum of money with a small amount entered in a casino. It seems that this is no longer a realistic or realistic event. As far as I know, most people who play here in crypto gambling only deposit a small amount and maybe others are still taking chances that they might get lucky and win a large amount.

But so far it seems that no one is getting anything like that, even if someone wins but it's not big, but they still win compared to the amount that was entered to match.
I remember a guy had posted somewhere in this forum that they have won about $2,000 with just a spin of a few cents which was probably a pretty big win considering his country of residence, I think he was from Nigeria which we know isn't a very advanced and developed country. So I believe some people do manage to get some wins from here and there but they are obviously not life-changing because such things only happen to a few out of millions.

Every single gambler has the wish when they gamble that they win something that may change their lives for good, but it barely happens, this hope keeps them gambling even if they are using small amounts, they spend a lot of money on it if they are counted in a few years.
Winning you to a thousand dollars with a cent is a big amount of money and just imagine how much the person could have made if he uses an amount like $100 to $500. This will be in hundred of thousands. But the funny part is that, we don't always know when we are going have a bug win that is why it mostly comes suddenly without knowing the exact possibility. I have also had a big winning too with a little amount of money but it is not little as we can compare it to this one. Betting can profitable with winnings when we never expected it.









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August 15, 2023, 07:41:56 AM
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It's never my goal to win big from any online casinos, I have always use small amount to gamble and I have only won good amount twice, I don't care about wining higher amount if money as safety gambling is what I like to practice to avoid bad stories.

The higher the stakes the higher your chances to win but the chances to lose is still going to ne present, I don't want to play such dangerous game, not from someone like me who still plan to grow big some day through my hard work not through gambling.

If you don't honor yourself gambling will teach you some lessons you won't be able to forget for the rest of your life.

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August 15, 2023, 11:39:32 AM
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If any one doesn't have KYC approval then it is not unusual to face such situation. But in some cases KYC becomes very important as one wins there like a big jackpot. However, in some good casino if big amount is won, then the money can be refunded properly by fulfilling the KYC conditions, but if the gambling site is not good, then the casino platform does not take any kind of complaint rather they freeze the winning amount and refuse to pay the winnings. A gambler must read their terms and conditions thoroughly before selecting any gambling platform.
The question is basically different and you answered it differently, the very first question by the OP is that whether someone have deposited a small amount and won a very big amount with it and then withdrew it successfully without the platform asking any questions about KYC verification or anything. Honestly, I don't really think that is possible these days considering most of the platforms are licensed and they would obviously require KYC before withdrawals.

And, casinos that are not licensed and might not ask for KYC are basically not trusted enough to pay you 1000x of your initial bet so they will probably make some kind of a lame excuse and avoid paying you the money since they can't ask you for KYC as they aren't licensed.

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August 15, 2023, 12:17:28 PM
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True, but only one in a thousand people can get lucky like that in fact, I think it will be very rare for a gambler who can be lucky with a small bet to get a big win or jackpot and not all types of games or bets can provide this opportunity.
Yes, because playing gambling, for example slot machines and some casino games like that, these games always rely on luck so it can happen that even though a small bet can get a jackpot, I have never been too into playing slots but someone has won it with a small bet even though the jackpot is not too big according to the amount of bets that are made, as you say one in a thousand lucky people every day gets that opportunity.

But the fact is that on the ground most of them, when they win, forget themselves and keep playing gambling until all the wins are used up, they don't withdraw their winnings quickly, because if a true gambler manages to get an opportunity to win like that, he will definitely withdraw money immediately and withdraw from the platform, different with the losers they will continue the game to get even bigger wins.  Grin
We all can speculate about the all possible outcomes unless there is someone get into the situation so I am going with one, let's say someone deposited $10 and managed to win $5000 and still managed to withdraw all their winnings with no problem like KYC because there is no suspicious activity in their bets, no bugs found by the casino at the time of bet so the player won the bets genuinely which means no problem whatsoever.









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August 15, 2023, 12:48:09 PM
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The main thing is that make sure you gamble using a trusted gambling platform that has been recommended, a trusted gambling platform that has the best reputation rating will guarantee withdrawals even if you have won the jackpot and they don't make withdrawals difficult even if your account has not been KYC verified.

Many complaints from members have complained that withdrawals of high wins are not processed because they choose to gamble at a low reputation casino, the casino accuses wins of being fraudulent and makes every effort to make withdrawals difficult, so you have to choose a trusted casino wisely so you don't experience any problems when submitting a withdrawal.
And we already have a list of trusted casinos from this forum that helps us to avoid shady casinos that can make us lose money. A trusted casino will not prevent its players from withdrawing their winnings, especially if the casino does not suspect any abuse after checking their accounts. And the casino will process the withdrawal.

And if a member complains about withdrawing their winnings, it could be because the casino is still checking their account and the inspection process hasn't been completed. And they have to keep waiting until the process is complete, then the casino will process the withdrawal. But if the casino finds that its member is cheating, it will not process the withdrawal and may even ban the account immediately.

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True, but only one in a thousand people can get lucky like that in fact, I think it will be very rare for a gambler who can be lucky with a small bet to get a big win or jackpot and not all types of games or bets can provide this opportunity.
KYC requirements may only be set for customers who have big wins and want to withdraw them, but this is casino policy, so however we as gamblers who are also casino customers must be able to accept all of that for the successful withdrawal that we make.
It's impossible for a gambler who gets a big win and is asked for KYC requirements for the withdrawal process but instead refuses it, even though it will take days it seems like all gamblers will accept and patiently wait.
Hopefully, we will become lucky gamblers by betting small bets and succeed in getting big wins one day. Thus we can become very lucky gamblers by getting a lot of money.

And shouldn't those who win a lot of money mind the KYC requirements imposed on them because casinos must ask their members to do KYC. As members of the casino, we must also follow the rules the casino applies. After all, by doing KYC, we can deposit and withdraw a lot of money from casinos. And as long as we don't commit any fraud, the casino will process it immediately.
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August 15, 2023, 03:26:16 PM
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In gambling there's no amount one is not liable to win irrespective of the staking rate used, not every gambler using a huge amount to gamble wins big, but the rate of the risk involved that some gamblers took in using a smaller amount and use to gamble and they win massively, we should not be distracted by this because it's a rare occurrence in gambling, winning or loosing is not in the staking amount but how accurate we could predict the bet we made for a win.
But winning and losing will still determine the results of the predictions that we place. And if gamblers place big bets, they will also get big wins if their predictions are correct. But to get an accurate or nearly accurate prediction, we must have a good analysis to find out which team we have chosen.

But it's very difficult to get a big win with a small bet, moreover get a big multiplier like @OP said. And only lucky people can get it.
What you guys are talking about is only possible in sports betting and we should understand that it is not possible for someone to bet a small amount and win a huge amount with that single bet through a sports bet, even if the odds are very high, they can't be higher than 10x or maybe 20x and it is way too difficult to win a bet where the odds are 20x for a team that you are selecting since the odds mostly are set based on the abilities of a team or a player.

What OP is referring to where a person can win a huge amount with just a small amount is only possible through gambling games such as slots or maybe some other game where one can hit a jackpot, and whether or not one can withdraw it depends on the nature of the platform obviously.
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August 15, 2023, 08:58:42 PM
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yes, big win with small bet is almost impossible. I don't know if it's true that anyone got a big win after a few small bets were made. but there's no way the casino would give such good luck.
still those who get big wins are those who have been playing at the casino long enough. and regularly they deposit large sums of money.
anyone hopes that big wins will be obtained in their gambling. but luck doesn't come with little effort either.
Even though it seems impossible, it is possible if someone really has great luck so that, he can get a big win. But the next problem was whether he could withdraw that big win easily when the casino would ask him various conditions. Or he can do KYC and wait until the process is complete before the casino will process the money withdrawal. Usually, if a casino asks a customer to do KYC, it must take days until the casino approves it. And that's what happens to a lot of people.
True, but only one in a thousand people can get lucky like that in fact, I think it will be very rare for a gambler who can be lucky with a small bet to get a big win or jackpot and not all types of games or bets can provide this opportunity.
KYC requirements may only be set for customers who have big wins and want to withdraw them, but this is casino policy, so however we as gamblers who are also casino customers must be able to accept all of that for the successful withdrawal that we make.
It's impossible for a gambler who gets a big win and is asked for KYC requirements for the withdrawal process but instead refuses it, even though it will take days it seems like all gamblers will accept and patiently wait.

KYC plays a role in legal sites and it is for us to decide if we would rather be on sites that do not use it, even that is becoming much more difficult due to the pressure from US mostly, but also from other countries. Having an unnecessary KYC and only when withdrawing is probably not the best a site can do to spread a positive word in the future. I think these sites will have a problem.

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anyone deposited very less amount and luckily won a big jackpot like a 100x or 500x or 1000x of base bet and withdrawn without kyc or without facing any problem from the platform?

if yes, how much was that amount? and what was the casino?

i seen many people complaining about they don't give big wins easily or just don't give by making unanswerable queries like very hard KYC, freezing accounts, etc. this problem is very common with trusted casino's also/

do anyone withdrawn successfully the winning amount and if yes what was the process, it was seamless or you need to pass a hard kyc?
I can't say I have...I'm never in it to win it, or lose it.

Based on everything I read in the gambling board, it is extremely unlikely that a casino is going to allow you to withdraw anything of significant value, especially if it came from a jackpot. If you use a VPN, they will confiscate. If you can't jump through infinite KYC hoops, bad luck again.

People are constantly complaining about account freezing because unfortunately, it is happening at 95℅+ of the casinos on the board. I wish I could say I was being dramatic, but I'm being conservative...that 5℅ that aren't conducting this practice for profit are unknown to me.
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August 16, 2023, 01:20:44 PM
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What you guys are talking about is only possible in sports betting and we should understand that it is not possible for someone to bet a small amount and win a huge amount with that single bet through a sports bet, even if the odds are very high, they can't be higher than 10x or maybe 20x and it is way too difficult to win a bet where the odds are 20x for a team that you are selecting since the odds mostly are set based on the abilities of a team or a player.

What OP is referring to where a person can win a huge amount with just a small amount is only possible through gambling games such as slots or maybe some other game where one can hit a jackpot, and whether or not one can withdraw it depends on the nature of the platform obviously.
It is possible to happen in playing slots, especially if they or we get big luck that can give us big wins. And several people managed to get it, including members of this forum because they got lucky.

For sports betting, it can't happen because the bets we place may not pay off big unless we also place big bets. So what we should pay attention to is the number of bets in each gambling game and leave the results to luck.
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True , as soon as an user hits a big win or a jackpot , the bookies will obligate you to make KYC and that is completely fine as long as you don't have something to hide on your side.

Smaller withdrawals are not worthy for a bookie to make you complete the KYC but if you hit a lot of small win consecutive , at some point , you will have to make KYC to actually continuing to play there. Grin

This is not to be so because it could mean the casino already know that gamblers are only wasting their money by not winning big. They are suppose to keep it a flat regulation for everyone both big or small winner or they forget the aspect of KYC. When a casino set such rule, it looks biase like whoever wins big or a jackpot have done something wrong or has scammed and has to go through KYC. It is not looking nice for such biase rule. This is also the reason that some winners have complained when they win big and the tales of KYC begin to show up. Hence, it is better that bettors know the casino rule and if there is a clause on KYC to be done in the future, it is better to pass it before you start playing.

That's true, as long as a casino is the type that requires for kyc they will always make demands irrespective of winning big or small because that's part of their own instituted policy, in the case of a gambler who win huge amount of money, they may also in addition subject such user to an advanced level of kyc procedures just for them to be more convinced that he's the bearer, except if the casino is known not to be a KYC gambling platform, they should not initiate kyc request only on winning a particular amount but rather make it a general responsibility on every gambler using their platform for gambling.



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August 16, 2023, 01:58:52 PM
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anyone deposited very less amount and luckily won a big jackpot like a 100x or 500x or 1000x of base bet and withdrawn without kyc or without facing any problem from the platform?
100x to 1000x win is not a easy task. it require a big luck but in this case if any user win 100-1000x without kyc then he/she can face problem for withdrawal. Because no site allows withdraw above $5k without KYC. It will depend on how much amount a gambler wins.  If someone bet $1 he would only win $1000 at 1000x.  In that case he will be able to withdraw.  But if you win 1000x by placing high amount bet then it will definitely be huge winning and in that case there may be problem in withdrawal. However, if there is a reputable site, then they can be withdrawn by doing kyc again


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August 16, 2023, 05:36:33 PM
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True , as soon as an user hits a big win or a jackpot , the bookies will obligate you to make KYC and that is completely fine as long as you don't have something to hide on your side.

Smaller withdrawals are not worthy for a bookie to make you complete the KYC but if you hit a lot of small win consecutive , at some point , you will have to make KYC to actually continuing to play there. Grin

This is not to be so because it could mean the casino already know that gamblers are only wasting their money by not winning big. They are suppose to keep it a flat regulation for everyone both big or small winner or they forget the aspect of KYC. When a casino set such rule, it looks biase like whoever wins big or a jackpot have done something wrong or has scammed and has to go through KYC. It is not looking nice for such biase rule. This is also the reason that some winners have complained when they win big and the tales of KYC begin to show up. Hence, it is better that bettors know the casino rule and if there is a clause on KYC to be done in the future, it is better to pass it before you start playing.

That's true, as long as a casino is the type that requires for kyc they will always make demands irrespective of winning big or small because that's part of their own instituted policy, in the case of a gambler who win huge amount of money, they may also in addition subject such user to an advanced level of kyc procedures just for them to be more convinced that he's the bearer, except if the casino is known not to be a KYC gambling platform, they should not initiate kyc request only on winning a particular amount but rather make it a general responsibility on every gambler using their platform for gambling.

I have come across casinos where if you win less than 1000 dollars there is no problem, you can withdraw without KYC, it also seems like a good policy to me, if you have more than 1000 dollars you must comply if it is not done normally, the kyc for me is a measure That doesn't make any sense, I don't think I'll be more protected with my money, the way I'll be more protected is if the casino takes the necessary measures to stay safe, the fact that the kyc has been done doesn't mean that the government authorities They are going to give us our money, the servers that are from the casino are the ones that must keep records, whether or not it is with the kyc, that is logical and what it should be.

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August 16, 2023, 06:34:28 PM
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In gambling there's no amount one is not liable to win irrespective of the staking rate used, not every gambler using a huge amount to gamble wins big, but the rate of the risk involved that some gamblers took in using a smaller amount and use to gamble and they win massively, we should not be distracted by this because it's a rare occurrence in gambling, winning or loosing is not in the staking amount but how accurate we could predict the bet we made for a win.
But winning and losing will still determine the results of the predictions that we place. And if gamblers place big bets, they will also get big wins if their predictions are correct. But to get an accurate or nearly accurate prediction, we must have a good analysis to find out which team we have chosen.

But it's very difficult to get a big win with a small bet, moreover get a big multiplier like @OP said. And only lucky people can get it.
What you guys are talking about is only possible in sports betting and we should understand that it is not possible for someone to bet a small amount and win a huge amount with that single bet through a sports bet, even if the odds are very high, they can't be higher than 10x or maybe 20x and it is way too difficult to win a bet where the odds are 20x for a team that you are selecting since the odds mostly are set based on the abilities of a team or a player.

What OP is referring to where a person can win a huge amount with just a small amount is only possible through gambling games such as slots or maybe some other game where one can hit a jackpot, and whether or not one can withdraw it depends on the nature of the platform obviously.


Well, the debate is interesting, because I had not thought that one as a player has the right to win a certain part, and not a large part, that limits a lot, in fact I have that doubt, because if I enter a casino I can win the amount whatever, within the possibilities it is, in fact if a casino limits that option it is very badly done and it is not something reliable, so I think that nlso casinos do not limit the fact that one can win more than what is believed, in In this sense, if a casino applies that, it seems dishonest to me, and they would be new casinos or with many options of being scams, in the case of nominal, reliable casinos because they are highly renowned in the forum, I consider that if pse can win whatever As long as you are lucky, it is allowed.

Now, when playing with a very small balance, if I see that the chances of winning large amounts are somewhat difficult, but it is difficult and not impossible and obviously it is allowed to do so, whoever says no, I think they are very wrong. , however, with a balance of 10USD you can even win 400usd in a slot machine, and I say this because it has happened to me, so it is allowed, now to take it to great profits, that is to say to balances that are above the $10k if I see it difficult, because it is something that requires a lot of patience, knowing how to play, the truth is that I see it as complicated, although there are people who are experts in slots, because they play very regularly.

Not only in slots, but also in other games, such as dice, there are great chances of winning in doatoss because there are many things that can be done, some win with the most dangerous strategy for me, which is the martingale , others apply multipliers and hit the jackpot, increasing their balance in an incredible way, others with crash, with Black Jack, but that is with a good stroke of luck and with a lot of daring.

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