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August 19, 2023, 09:15:35 PM
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I don't know if I have given my points of view in this thread, but what I know in some of the gambling platforms that is desperate in gambling always not allow their customers to make a withdrawal when kyc verification is not done or not completed, because some times gambling platforms when you are not be verified or when you have ascertain first and second gambling platform verification you can be allowed to make withdrawal and sometimes some gambling platforms doesn't welcome such and you most completed your verification before you will grant permission to make a withdrawal, it depends on rule and regulations of the gambling platform

I don't think there's any casino that allows you to withdraw without completing your KYC verification anymore. Regulators has made it very compulsory so before you use any casino you don't want to complete KYC, read their terms and conditions first before using.

There are still casinos that let me withdraw without undergoing KYC, Bitcasino, Livecasino, Stake, Rollbit, Gamdom and I think there are more to this lists.  I am able to withdraw in these sites without undergoing KYC and don't find any troubles as of today.

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Casino aren't wrong for requesting for KYC because they need to know who they're serving as they're not a decentralized company but a centralized one that the regulators can hold responsible if investigation expose their customers using their casino for illegal activities.

I agree, it is the right of the casino to ask for KYC and we have agreed on it upon registering to their platform.  KYC although many of us here thinks it is annoying, it is also one of the security measure for account security.

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I don't have a problem with KYC on casino when the casinos are serving us rightly and they're not exposing our secret information to others. I don't have a problem completing my KYC with them, before I start using some casino I would have already done my KYC to avoid issues.

These casinos that asks for KYC should be responsible enough to protect their customers data.  Licensed casinos is bound to data privacy act where they are obligated to protect their customers data.

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August 19, 2023, 09:59:37 PM
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With how the norm these days about casinos asking for KYC, it’s hard to expect that you’ll not be required to pass KYC even with an average win, most especially if it’s a jackpot prize. So I can’t give any of those casinos who will never ask for KYC, as most of the casinos I’ve come to play are already making KYC verification a compulsory one. However, if you gamble at a decentralized casino, maybe that could be possible. But it’s hard to trust decentralized casinos these days especially if you are risking a huge amount of capital.

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August 19, 2023, 10:59:59 PM
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Almost all casinos have now implemented KYC and we must always comply with it if we don't want to get into trouble like it's difficult to withdraw big wins without providing KYC.
Exactly. Almost all casinos enforce kyc especially when someone requests to withdraw a huge amount of money. Not only that, I remember a case where a casino (unfortunately I don't remember its name) had an an thread here and claimed they will never ask their customers to verify their identity, but as soon as someone made a huge win they froze his account and asked him to complete kyc!

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August 19, 2023, 11:06:24 PM
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Almost all casinos have now implemented KYC and we must always comply with it if we don't want to get into trouble like it's difficult to withdraw big wins without providing KYC.
Exactly. Almost all casinos enforce kyc especially when someone requests to withdraw a huge amount of money. Not only that, I remember a case where a casino (unfortunately I don't remember its name) had an an thread here and claimed they will never ask their customers to verify their identity, but as soon as someone made a huge win they froze his account and asked him to complete kyc!
It's true most of the casino these days do ask or require KYC verification on their website these days but I feel most of them do these things because of the steady watch by government official on their business and website towards illegal money laundering activities so that they would avoid any situation that could lead to the casino being shut down.

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August 19, 2023, 11:10:52 PM
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Almost all casinos have now implemented KYC and we must always comply with it if we don't want to get into trouble like it's difficult to withdraw big wins without providing KYC.
Exactly. Almost all casinos enforce kyc especially when someone requests to withdraw a huge amount of money. Not only that, I remember a case where a casino (unfortunately I don't remember its name) had an an thread here and claimed they will never ask their customers to verify their identity, but as soon as someone made a huge win they froze his account and asked him to complete kyc!
That's the main problem with most online casino right now. Declaring that they do not require KYC and will never ask for it in the long run. And then once you have made a huge winning, they will freeze your account, ask for KYC, will require you to submit a lot of documents and waste your time. Unlike before, kyc is not a thing, if you win you can withdraw directly in your wallet without any problem.


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August 19, 2023, 11:54:33 PM
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It's true most of the casino these days do ask or require KYC verification on their website these days but I feel most of them do these things because of the steady watch by government official on their business and website towards illegal money laundering activities so that they would avoid any situation that could lead to the casino being shut down.
You are right but the casino I was talking about didn't even have a license. They didn't have to comply with any regulations.
Their excuse for freezing the customer account was that they were suspecting he was cheating or found a bug in their system and he exploited it. So they had to make a thorough investigation including identity verification to know if the win is legit or not.
The moral of the story is that all centralized services can and will ask you to pass kyc any moment they want whether they are licensed or not.

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With how the norm these days about casinos asking for KYC, it’s hard to expect that you’ll not be required to pass KYC even with an average win, most especially if it’s a jackpot prize. So I can’t give any of those casinos who will never ask for KYC, as most of the casinos I’ve come to play are already making KYC verification a compulsory one. However, if you gamble at a decentralized casino, maybe that could be possible. But it’s hard to trust decentralized casinos these days especially if you are risking a huge amount of capital.
All of the top casino lists currently prioritize accounts that must be KYC verified and I rarely use decentralized gambling, the most important factor is that you must complete KYC verification before betting anything to anticipate that if you win the jackpot it will not be difficult with KYC related matters, but if some anti KYC people have to choose gamble on trusted decentralized casino and I think decentralized casino has been abandoned because more enthusiast gamblers prefer centralized casinos, but all gamblers expect more trusted decentralized casinos to increase security for gambling.

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August 20, 2023, 06:51:43 AM
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do anyone withdrawn successfully the winning amount and if yes what was the process, it was seamless or you need to pass a hard kyc?
When KYC was not mandatory for gambling in a crypto casino then no such problem would have been faced. However, if the amount is large, each casino will ask for the client's information, which must be provided. However, some scam sites, when ordinary gamblers win a big jackpot or money, they refuse to pay that money by showing various excuses. A gambler must gamble on a good casino platform. Otherwise there may be big hindrance to his big win. I haven't won any big jackpots so can't find out such problem.

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August 20, 2023, 12:12:17 PM
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Casinos always have a special interest in everyone to want to deposit money to gamble and come back the next day repeating the same thing.
Casinos are made to do business and make big profits, so it's only natural that every casino always does anything to attract gamblers, such as giving promotional bonuses.
No gambler really wins from the casino even when they win big and then stop I don't believe gamblers can stop completely because they will definitely come back to get even bigger wins, winning always has an addictive effect and that's why almost all gamblers have trouble when they want to stop.
Almost all casinos have now implemented KYC and we must always comply with it if we don't want to get into trouble like it's difficult to withdraw big wins without providing KYC.
The casino may continue to send offers in the form of more attractive promotions to people willing to deposit money to gamble and come back the next day. Casinos will pay more attention to people like that because casinos can get big profits if they lose gambling. But for people who only make gambling as entertainment, the casino will treat it as usual, and if they give promotions, the promotions may be too interesting. However, promotions given by casinos can always attract gamblers to join and spend money.

The gamblers only win a fraction of the total income the casino can get, so the casino will still get the biggest win and the biggest income. And yes, almost all casinos have implemented KYC, and all members must comply by doing KYC. So we can only follow the rules of the casino, but we can also move to another casino if doing KYC makes us uncomfortable. But perhaps we will still be asked to do KYC.
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August 20, 2023, 12:29:19 PM
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do anyone withdrawn successfully the winning amount and if yes what was the process, it was seamless or you need to pass a hard kyc?
When KYC was not mandatory for gambling in a crypto casino then no such problem would have been faced. However, if the amount is large, each casino will ask for the client's information, which must be provided. However, some scam sites, when ordinary gamblers win a big jackpot or money, they refuse to pay that money by showing various excuses. A gambler must gamble on a good casino platform. Otherwise there may be big hindrance to his big win. I haven't won any big jackpots so can't find out such problem.
Choosing only reputable casinos to gamble on is something we all as gamblers have been singing all over the forum, and it seems we will never stop singing about it, KYC as of today have become a very normal thing casinos, every casino today have implemented some level of KYC for their customers, even the ones that were once KYC free..
So for me, I think one way to know or be suspicious of a casino is when they promise KYC free gambling experience, because to me, no reputable casino that have been running for some time will promise gamblers a KYC free experience no matter how much they win, except it be a new casino that is yet to get an operational gambling license, which means their operation is illegal, and playing on such casinos could be risky.

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I don't have a problem with KYC on casino when the casinos are serving us rightly and they're not exposing our secret information to others. I don't have a problem completing my KYC with them, before I start using some casino I would have already done my KYC to avoid issues.

These casinos that asks for KYC should be responsible enough to protect their customers data.  Licensed casinos is bound to data privacy act where they are obligated to protect their customers data.
Yes, you also have to select several reputable casinos in this forum, of course you don't only talk about responsibility, because recently there were cases of casino sites like Betnomi that just disappeared and what is really worrying is that some users have given their KYC there, because of this it's not only about the money but about the privacy that might be lost if giving out to casinos such scams.

I also have never considered a problem with my KYC for playing at a Stake gambling site, because they are a big casino so I trust that especially if you play at a casino that is an official sponsor of several sports it is increasingly convincing that they have big business there so they won't try to do fraud to all users especially regarding KYC where all users give it because they believe.

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August 20, 2023, 02:41:40 PM
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Casinos always have a special interest in everyone to want to deposit money to gamble and come back the next day repeating the same thing.
Casinos are made to do business and make big profits, so it's only natural that every casino always does anything to attract gamblers, such as giving promotional bonuses.
No gambler really wins from the casino even when they win big and then stop I don't believe gamblers can stop completely because they will definitely come back to get even bigger wins, winning always has an addictive effect and that's why almost all gamblers have trouble when they want to stop.
Almost all casinos have now implemented KYC and we must always comply with it if we don't want to get into trouble like it's difficult to withdraw big wins without providing KYC.
The casino may continue to send offers in the form of more attractive promotions to people willing to deposit money to gamble and come back the next day. Casinos will pay more attention to people like that because casinos can get big profits if they lose gambling. But for people who only make gambling as entertainment, the casino will treat it as usual, and if they give promotions, the promotions may be too interesting. However, promotions given by casinos can always attract gamblers to join and spend money.

The gamblers only win a fraction of the total income the casino can get, so the casino will still get the biggest win and the biggest income. And yes, almost all casinos have implemented KYC, and all members must comply by doing KYC. So we can only follow the rules of the casino, but we can also move to another casino if doing KYC makes us uncomfortable. But perhaps we will still be asked to do KYC.

Well it makes sense they certainly have many ways to be able to increase their promotion so that gamblers want to join them, promotion on various social media is their ultimate way of running a casino business. And it is true that they will continue to improve it so that it can always look attractive in the eyes of everyone. Well, the casino is very happy when it sees people who are easily provoked or provoked into their environment because obviously it will bring huge profits than from ordinary gamblers who come just for entertainment alone and do not pursue victory there continuously. It's true, casino revenue is huge and only a few percent of it goes to gamblers' winnings, but that's the kind of money all casino agents want, so that's a pretty good excuse for casino greed by not increasing the winning percentage for gamblers.
For the KYC issue itself, maybe this is now a common requirement in every casino, they will implement this system, indirectly this may be a little guarantee from the gamblers to be in the casino.

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August 20, 2023, 10:08:43 PM
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I don't have a problem with KYC on casino when the casinos are serving us rightly and they're not exposing our secret information to others. I don't have a problem completing my KYC with them, before I start using some casino I would have already done my KYC to avoid issues.

These casinos that asks for KYC should be responsible enough to protect their customers data.  Licensed casinos is bound to data privacy act where they are obligated to protect their customers data.
Yes, you also have to select several reputable casinos in this forum, of course you don't only talk about responsibility, because recently there were cases of casino sites like Betnomi that just disappeared and what is really worrying is that some users have given their KYC there, because of this it's not only about the money but about the privacy that might be lost if giving out to casinos such scams.

This is really out of control since many Betnomi players even us think Betnomi is a reputable casino until they pull their exit scam.  I was also in shock that Betnomi pull rugged and exit scam, Lucky that I just don't do KYC on every casino I am registered, I only do KYC if a huge amount of money is in hand.

I also have never considered a problem with my KYC for playing at a Stake gambling site, because they are a big casino so I trust that especially if you play at a casino that is an official sponsor of several sports it is increasingly convincing that they have big business there so they won't try to do fraud to all users especially regarding KYC where all users give it because they believe.

True that, I have done KYC on exchanges that I often used, and some reputable casinos that enable me to win huge amount of money, so I perform KYC before hand so that withdrawing won't be problem in case they asked for KYC.

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Well it makes sense they certainly have many ways to be able to increase their promotion so that gamblers want to join them, promotion on various social media is their ultimate way of running a casino business. And it is true that they will continue to improve it so that it can always look attractive in the eyes of everyone. Well, the casino is very happy when it sees people who are easily provoked or provoked into their environment because obviously it will bring huge profits than from ordinary gamblers who come just for entertainment alone and do not pursue victory there continuously. It's true, casino revenue is huge and only a few percent of it goes to gamblers' winnings, but that's the kind of money all casino agents want, so that's a pretty good excuse for casino greed by not increasing the winning percentage for gamblers.
For the KYC issue itself, maybe this is now a common requirement in every casino, they will implement this system, indirectly this may be a little guarantee from the gamblers to be in the casino.
That promotion is what casinos continue to run to get new customers and still invite old customers to stay in the casino, which has been going on for a long time. And casinos always have promotional methods that can be run even though other casinos also use promotions that may be new to the gambling industry. And if more gamblers gamble and lose, the casino will earn income to grow its business even bigger. In this case, the casino has succeeded in getting what they want because more gamblers will come to their place, so the casino must provide even better service. And yes, the casino can ask KYC to every gambler as a common rule in many casinos, so every gambler also needs to be aware of it.
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August 21, 2023, 02:13:02 PM
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do anyone withdrawn successfully the winning amount and if yes what was the process, it was seamless or you need to pass a hard kyc?
When KYC was not mandatory for gambling in a crypto casino then no such problem would have been faced. However, if the amount is large, each casino will ask for the client's information, which must be provided. However, some scam sites, when ordinary gamblers win a big jackpot or money, they refuse to pay that money by showing various excuses. A gambler must gamble on a good casino platform. Otherwise there may be big hindrance to his big win. I haven't won any big jackpots so can't find out such problem.
KYC is not a problem if we are using a reputable site because we are aware that this a mandatory now especially if you are moving huge amounts even if it was the money we won from the jackpot prize, there is no excuse for that as some people are using gambling sites for money laundering. I consider KYC to be a helping tool to prevent it and help to stop illegalities. So, if we are into gambling, we are also willing to comply with our KYC, or else, better not gamble anymore, or use new sites (scam sites).



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August 21, 2023, 02:19:26 PM
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That promotion is what casinos continue to run to get new customers and still invite old customers to stay in the casino, which has been going on for a long time. And casinos always have promotional methods that can be run even though other casinos also use promotions that may be new to the gambling industry. And if more gamblers gamble and lose, the casino will earn income to grow its business even bigger. In this case, the casino has succeeded in getting what they want because more gamblers will come to their place, so the casino must provide even better service. And yes, the casino can ask KYC to every gambler as a common rule in many casinos, so every gambler also needs to be aware of it.

The promotion was made all the time to attract the new customers and to keep the old customer in the casino and get away the casino at any extreme.Most the casino user will switch to the casino which paying high bonus to the users.The casino should stay updated with more and more bonus with certain time period.So it retain the old customers to the casino and attract the new one to them.When the gambler income was increased they also increase the deposit money to the gambling site.All the time the gamblers will look into the new casino which enable more benefits.Some gamblers only prepare the casino that allow the players to play without the kyc.

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August 21, 2023, 04:00:22 PM
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Well it makes sense they certainly have many ways to be able to increase their promotion so that gamblers want to join them, promotion on various social media is their ultimate way of running a casino business. And it is true that they will continue to improve it so that it can always look attractive in the eyes of everyone. Well, the casino is very happy when it sees people who are easily provoked or provoked into their environment because obviously it will bring huge profits than from ordinary gamblers who come just for entertainment alone and do not pursue victory there continuously. It's true, casino revenue is huge and only a few percent of it goes to gamblers' winnings, but that's the kind of money all casino agents want, so that's a pretty good excuse for casino greed by not increasing the winning percentage for gamblers.
For the KYC issue itself, maybe this is now a common requirement in every casino, they will implement this system, indirectly this may be a little guarantee from the gamblers to be in the casino.
Of course, they promote on social media! Why wouldn't they? It's the easiest way to trap naive gamblers, draw them in, and make a quick buck. You talk about casinos wanting to "look attractive in the eyes of everyone." That's the entire point! They aren't running a charity, they're running a business. And if people are foolish enough to get easily provoked or lured in, why wouldn't the casino capitalize on that? I say, smart move on their part

A few percentages go to the gamblers' winnings? Who cares! It's a game, and the house always wins. That's the reality, and if gamblers can't handle that, then they shouldn’t be playing. As for KYC, they should be thankful casinos have such systems. It ensures no one is swindling the casino, which, believe me, people would try if given half a chance

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August 21, 2023, 05:13:53 PM
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Well it makes sense they certainly have many ways to be able to increase their promotion so that gamblers want to join them, promotion on various social media is their ultimate way of running a casino business. And it is true that they will continue to improve it so that it can always look attractive in the eyes of everyone. Well, the casino is very happy when it sees people who are easily provoked or provoked into their environment because obviously it will bring huge profits than from ordinary gamblers who come just for entertainment alone and do not pursue victory there continuously. It's true, casino revenue is huge and only a few percent of it goes to gamblers' winnings, but that's the kind of money all casino agents want, so that's a pretty good excuse for casino greed by not increasing the winning percentage for gamblers.
For the KYC issue itself, maybe this is now a common requirement in every casino, they will implement this system, indirectly this may be a little guarantee from the gamblers to be in the casino.
Of course, they promote on social media! Why wouldn't they? It's the easiest way to trap naive gamblers, draw them in, and make a quick buck. You talk about casinos wanting to "look attractive in the eyes of everyone." That's the entire point! They aren't running a charity, they're running a business. And if people are foolish enough to get easily provoked or lured in, why wouldn't the casino capitalize on that? I say, smart move on their part

A few percentages go to the gamblers' winnings? Who cares! It's a game, and the house always wins. That's the reality, and if gamblers can't handle that, then they shouldn’t be playing. As for KYC, they should be thankful casinos have such systems. It ensures no one is swindling the casino, which, believe me, people would try if given half a chance

we know what will happen to a casino which doesn't really give a good service to the gamblers is that, people talk, and the word of mouth is a very powerful tool when it comes to marketing. they may have promotions and all but if people will give negative feedback and it is consistent, then, doubt that there's really something wrong with the site. and with such doubt, people will dig more up until they will be exposed about their true nature. so whatever promotions they are running, it won't really give them the edge if players have doubt on their services.

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August 21, 2023, 05:28:06 PM
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It's true most of the casino these days do ask or require KYC verification on their website these days but I feel most of them do these things because of the steady watch by government official on their business and website towards illegal money laundering activities so that they would avoid any situation that could lead to the casino being shut down.
You are right but the casino I was talking about didn't even have a license. They didn't have to comply with any regulations.
Their excuse for freezing the customer account was that they were suspecting he was cheating or found a bug in their system and he exploited it. So they had to make a thorough investigation including identity verification to know if the win is legit or not.

This is funny, how can they prove whether the win is legit or not through KYC?  KYC is not related to the gameplay.  If they wanted to verify if the winning is legit, they should contact the game provider and inquire about the winning session of the suspected player.  This unlicensed Casino has no right to ask for KYC because they are not conforming to the gambling regulation since they are operating illegally.  I believe with this kind of illegal casino, asking for KYC is just an excuse to deprived the play of his winnings.

The moral of the story is that all centralized services can and will ask you to pass kyc any moment they want whether they are licensed or not.

True, so it is better to play in a licensed casino at least in this platform, due to their license, they are bound to data privacy law.

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August 22, 2023, 04:18:09 AM
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I don't think there's any casino that allows you to withdraw without completing your KYC verification anymore. Regulators has made it very compulsory so before you use any casino you don't want to complete KYC, read their terms and conditions first before using.

Casino aren't wrong for requesting for KYC because they need to know who they're serving as they're not a decentralized company but a centralized one that the regulators can hold responsible if investigation expose their customers using their casino for illegal activities.

I don't have a problem with KYC on casino when the casinos are serving us rightly and they're not exposing our secret information to others. I don't have a problem completing my KYC with them, before I start using some casino I would have already done my KYC to avoid issues.
I'm not sure about high amounts, but there are some platforms that would allow you to withdraw small amounts without having to verify your identity, however, what's the point? The platforms that won't require you to complete KYC verification would probably not have a license and when a platform isn't licensed, it can't really be trusted for the long term and authorities can always approach them and ask them to close down their services or something.

So, it is much better if a gambler chooses a platform that is trusted, has a good reputation, and is licensed so that they can complete their KYC verification with it and gamble without any problems at all, and when you do KYC with a trusted platform, you will have peace of mind that your information is safe.

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