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July 24, 2023, 02:36:54 PM
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I think everyone probably understands that most middle and lower class people only have the goal of making money at gambling because they believe that gambling is a fast way to get rich, even though gambling is also a way to make people poor or bankrupt in a short time. that's why it all has to depend on the nature of a person and their respective mindsets.
That is the reality about gambling and as we can see, the majority who do lotteries are poor people making their fortune relying on luck to become rich instantly. And such kind of mindset drives them to spend more on buying lottery tickets rather than spending for their health. How unfortunate is that but that is how some people look into gambling and consider this as a tool to get into a higher position of life without realizing that if they keep that money it is huge already.



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July 24, 2023, 03:43:30 PM
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I think everyone probably understands that most middle and lower class people only have the goal of making money at gambling because they believe that gambling is a fast way to get rich, even though gambling is also a way to make people poor or bankrupt in a short time. that's why it all has to depend on the nature of a person and their respective mindsets.
That is the reality about gambling and as we can see, the majority who do lotteries are poor people making their fortune relying on luck to become rich instantly. And such kind of mindset drives them to spend more on buying lottery tickets rather than spending for their health. How unfortunate is that but that is how some people look into gambling and consider this as a tool to get into a higher position of life without realizing that if they keep that money it is huge already.
Naturally those who are poor people they always want to change their fate. Therefore, if there is a shortcut way to get rich, they choose it. In gambling I have seen that poor people have a great interest in earning money without effort. As such they are interested in gambling and lotteries which are also present among the rich but comparatively less. Poor people lose repeatedly in gambling and try to find ways to change their fortunes. These people constantly lose their money in hopes of getting more money. But it cannot be said that rich people are not interested in gambling but their statistics will be less than poor people.

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July 24, 2023, 04:19:27 PM
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I was in argument with someone. His view is that people who gamble are those that what they have is not sufficient for them and so they try to make more money from gambling. He said if you have sufficient money to take care of your needs that you won't think of gambling. He made reference to some rich people, who don't gamble because they have sufficient money to even gift to charity but that those rich who still gamble are only addicted to it not just because of the money. Therefore, that the percentage of the rich gambling is very small compared to those in middle class and lower class.

So my question is, is the percentage of the rich gambling lower than the middle and lower class?

It is easier to gamble when you have extra cash. That way you are not rushing, you're not forcing, and you are not pressured to make money. you just simply enjoy the games available in the casino. That's also why rich are consistently winning most often. Because they play either in a way for their business or for their entertainment. They allowed money for it with sufficient or greater amounts to also diversify their money. However not many rich people would take the risk to put their money on casino unline to middle lower class who will deposit even their last dollar.

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July 24, 2023, 07:01:30 PM
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I think everyone probably understands that most middle and lower class people only have the goal of making money at gambling because they believe that gambling is a fast way to get rich, even though gambling is also a way to make people poor or bankrupt in a short time. that's why it all has to depend on the nature of a person and their respective mindsets.
That is the reality about gambling and as we can see, the majority who do lotteries are poor people making their fortune relying on luck to become rich instantly. And such kind of mindset drives them to spend more on buying lottery tickets rather than spending for their health. How unfortunate is that but that is how some people look into gambling and consider this as a tool to get into a higher position of life without realizing that if they keep that money it is huge already.
Naturally those who are poor people they always want to change their fate. Therefore, if there is a shortcut way to get rich, they choose it. In gambling I have seen that poor people have a great interest in earning money without effort. As such they are interested in gambling and lotteries which are also present among the rich but comparatively less. Poor people lose repeatedly in gambling and try to find ways to change their fortunes. These people constantly lose their money in hopes of getting more money. But it cannot be said that rich people are not interested in gambling but their statistics will be less than poor people.
Yes, its correct that everyone craves to upgrade their financial status. But generalizing all poor folks as hopeless gamblers is far-fetched. My skepticism springs from the flawed premise that poverty drives a person to gambling or schemes like lotteries, and rich folks are immune to such attractions.

Look around! There are millions busting their humps off working hard, building businesses, upskilling themselves. These people aren't trying to cash in their dreams for a lottery ticket. Its not about the poverty or richness of one's pocket; its about the poverty or richness of one's mindset. Some rich people are just as eager to turn a quick buck and get caught in the same gambling web

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July 24, 2023, 07:08:31 PM
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I was in argument with someone. His view is that people who gamble are those that what they have is not sufficient for them and so they try to make more money from gambling. He said if you have sufficient money to take care of your needs that you won't think of gambling. He made reference to some rich people, who don't gamble because they have sufficient money to even gift to charity but that those rich who still gamble are only addicted to it not just because of the money. Therefore, that the percentage of the rich gambling is very small compared to those in middle class and lower class.

So my question is, is the percentage of the rich gambling lower than the middle and lower class?

It's a terrible idea to gamble if you do not consider the money expendable or simply "fun" money from your wider financial budget. If you cannot afford to spend the amount you want on gambling, then you put yourself in an extremely desperate situation and out of greed you are more likely to engage in risky behavior that will end up ruining your finances even more. You'll also be more susceptible to putting in "good money after bad", aka chasing losses with some very incorrect notion that the casino / bookmaker somehow owes you a win. They do not and all game plays are calculated independently each time you hit the betting button. The richer you get, the more likely you are to put your money to better use and not gamble.

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July 24, 2023, 07:15:38 PM
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I think everyone probably understands that most middle and lower class people only have the goal of making money at gambling because they believe that gambling is a fast way to get rich, even though gambling is also a way to make people poor or bankrupt in a short time. that's why it all has to depend on the nature of a person and their respective mindsets.
That is the reality about gambling and as we can see, the majority who do lotteries are poor people making their fortune relying on luck to become rich instantly. And such kind of mindset drives them to spend more on buying lottery tickets rather than spending for their health. How unfortunate is that but that is how some people look into gambling and consider this as a tool to get into a higher position of life without realizing that if they keep that money it is huge already.
Well, not every body buying lottery tickets are so broke to the extent of not having extra fund to take care of their health and some other important basics of life, as much as i know, many of those we tend to consider as being poor people might even be more disciplined in terms of gambling than the rich ones, not every poor man who gamblers is majorly after the win or money, many have good businesses they are managing and only trying out their luck on gambling, not like its a do or die affair for them in any way.

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July 24, 2023, 07:17:51 PM
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~snip~Look around! There are millions busting their humps off working hard, building businesses, upskilling themselves. These people aren't trying to cash in their dreams for a lottery ticket. Its not about the poverty or richness of one's pocket; its about the poverty or richness of one's mindset. Some rich people are just as eager to turn a quick buck and get caught in the same gambling web

The mindset of a person will indeed be different, the rich and the poor certainly have a different mindset too. Those who work hard to build their business from scratch will certainly not be interested enough in gambling because they realize that it will only be a waste of their money if it is not done with full control. Gambling is nothing more than entertainment and if it is used as a game or a place to make money then they are wrong, it will not always make money but there will be a lot of expenses that will be made if you are addicted. Some people who are poor and also have a short mindset, will only do gambling without seeing how he makes money. they will only be miserable because there is no planning whatsoever.
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July 24, 2023, 07:27:44 PM
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Naturally those who are poor people they always want to change their fate. Therefore, if there is a shortcut way to get rich, they choose it. In gambling I have seen that poor people have a great interest in earning money without effort. As such they are interested in gambling and lotteries which are also present among the rich but comparatively less. Poor people lose repeatedly in gambling and try to find ways to change their fortunes. These people constantly lose their money in hopes of getting more money. But it cannot be said that rich people are not interested in gambling but their statistics will be less than poor people.
Yes, its correct that everyone craves to upgrade their financial status. But generalizing all poor folks as hopeless gamblers is far-fetched. My skepticism springs from the flawed premise that poverty drives a person to gambling or schemes like lotteries, and rich folks are immune to such attractions.

Look around! There are millions busting their humps off working hard, building businesses, upskilling themselves. These people aren't trying to cash in their dreams for a lottery ticket. Its not about the poverty or richness of one's pocket; its about the poverty or richness of one's mindset. Some rich people are just as eager to turn a quick buck and get caught in the same gambling web

I highly agree, not all poor people are into gambling even though many of these poor people buy tickets of lottery to change their fate while some who are hooked to gambling , gamble everyday, many are still trying their best to avoid gambling because in their minds, the possibility of losing their money is larger than winning.  So we really cannot generalized that all poor people are into gambling in order to make their money sufficient.  Same goes with other status, medium and rich people also have their own preference, other gamble while other don't.

I was in argument with someone. His view is that people who gamble are those that what they have is not sufficient for them and so they try to make more money from gambling. He said if you have sufficient money to take care of your needs that you won't think of gambling. He made reference to some rich people, who don't gamble because they have sufficient money to even gift to charity but that those rich who still gamble are only addicted to it not just because of the money. Therefore, that the percentage of the rich gambling is very small compared to those in middle class and lower class.

So my question is, is the percentage of the rich gambling lower than the middle and lower class?

It is easier to gamble when you have extra cash. That way you are not rushing, you're not forcing, and you are not pressured to make money. you just simply enjoy the games available in the casino. That's also why rich are consistently winning most often. Because they play either in a way for their business or for their entertainment. They allowed money for it with sufficient or greater amounts to also diversify their money. However not many rich people would take the risk to put their money on casino unline to middle lower class who will deposit even their last dollar.

True that since gambling the extra money is stress free.  We also can do anything we want with the fund because it is a free money after all.  Win or lose, it won't affect our budget.
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July 24, 2023, 07:35:06 PM
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~snip~Look around! There are millions busting their humps off working hard, building businesses, upskilling themselves. These people aren't trying to cash in their dreams for a lottery ticket. Its not about the poverty or richness of one's pocket; its about the poverty or richness of one's mindset. Some rich people are just as eager to turn a quick buck and get caught in the same gambling web

The mindset of a person will indeed be different, the rich and the poor certainly have a different mindset too. Those who work hard to build their business from scratch will certainly not be interested enough in gambling because they realize that it will only be a waste of their money if it is not done with full control. Gambling is nothing more than entertainment and if it is used as a game or a place to make money then they are wrong, it will not always make money but there will be a lot of expenses that will be made if you are addicted. Some people who are poor and also have a short mindset, will only do gambling without seeing how he makes money. they will only be miserable because there is no planning whatsoever.
It is true that different individuals have their own purpose on Why they gamble,but I can say most persons who gamble are related to not having enough money at hand to be able to do what they intend doing,it might actually prompt them to want to gamble so as to make the money easily but they forget to know that gambling is not money guaranteed,it's base on luck,if you are lucky enough,then you win,but if that day is going to be a bad day for you,then you will still loose.As you said,the rich have their own way of gambling,while the poor have their way of gambling as well,but what is important is the both of them are pursuing a common goal which is to make money.
For me,I gamble simply because I want to double the little income I have,and that is the reason why I have been loosing money,because I am not contented with the little money I have.We can call it greed,the moment you want to double your amount despite the fact that you are ok at that time,there is every tendency that you'll end up regretting why you have to play that round of game.

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July 24, 2023, 07:51:56 PM
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It is true that different individuals have their own purpose on Why they gamble

We all share the common title of being a gambler together but everyone has his own reasons for gambling, some made it for fun while some take it as an avenue to seize the opportunity for making money with gambling, some can be right though when the economy is not going well with their financial lives and they take gambling for a second chance opportunity to make money even though they are very aware that gambling does not guarantee making money from it each time we bet, but we are taking the risk to seek for an opportunity in doing so for some earnings.

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July 24, 2023, 08:07:36 PM
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It is true that different individuals have their own purpose on Why they gamble

We all share the common title of being a gambler together but everyone has his own reasons for gambling, some made it for fun while some take it as an avenue to seize the opportunity for making money with gambling, some can be right though when the economy is not going well with their financial lives and they take gambling for a second chance opportunity to make money even though they are very aware that gambling does not guarantee making money from it each time we bet, but we are taking the risk to seek for an opportunity in doing so for some earnings.

There are so many things to do to be entertained actually if that is just what they want. Some people take a dive from 10,000 feet above only to feel the adrenaline. I would believe they want entertainment if they gamble on sports but on card games, it's certainly for money. It's always the money the reason why a person would gamble. Once addicted, he doesn't need much reason already.

And whether they don't have enough or they have enough money to live a life, they bet on sports because they love the sport.

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I mean that's the basic gist of it anyway. The poor gamble because they feel like they need to, the rich gamble because they can. Plus as I said in a previous comment I made that certain gambling forms like sweepstakes and lotteries are literal money traps that are made to lure poor unwitting people into playing, they paint the picture of a better life if you win the game and claim the jackpot, but we all know that's far from happening considering the whole system's rigged against the player. Still, since these poor people, most of the time uneducated and desperate to get their big break in life, fall victim to these traps where they constantly spend money, some of them even dedicating a portion of their salary to pay for tickets and shit. Can we do something about it? No, not really.

If I may assume, I do not agree to generalize that poor people feel the need to gamble, I think all factors are affected by the environment. not all poor people like to gamble, only some of them hope to win a victory from their gambling session. in a sense, getting rich in one night. and the only type of gambling that makes someone a millionaire, is lottery gambling. Lots of gamblers hope to get the jackpot from the lottery. even if it has to be percentaged, the probability of winning is very slim. only lucky people once in a lifetime win the jackpot from lottery gambling. but make no mistake, if there are some rich people who also like this type of lottery gambling.

btw, I'm intrigued by one point you said, "the whole system is rigged" I don't know how you knew that was the case. for an illegal casino, it is highly likely that cheating could occur. but for reputable casinos, which have a credible reputation. less likely, if they commit fraud. logically, they don't want the reputation that they have pioneered to be destroyed immediately because the casino is suspected of cheating.

For the rich, yes it is true they gamble because they can afford it. yet it makes no difference to the casual gambler and even the poor gambler, that they are potentially addicted. the difference is, they have a source of funds even though some of them have gone bankrupt because of their gambling. it could also be, they are just gambling for fun, after going through a series of busyness in their business.
anyway, for the most part we agree with what you said even though not completely.

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July 24, 2023, 08:49:00 PM
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How unfortunate is that but that is how some people look into gambling and consider this as a tool to get into a higher position of life without realizing that if they keep that money it is huge already.

I agree that it is an unfortunate situation that people look into gambling this way, expecting to be rich through gambling and because of such mentality, they play life savings and no borrowed money on it. This situation is usually rampant with the low income earners who don't have better monthly salary but want to find another source of income. Gambling is not another source of income , you can't calculate the ROI with gambling for it to favour you. ROI will always favour casino owner.

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July 24, 2023, 09:58:15 PM
Last edit: July 24, 2023, 10:09:45 PM by Sandra_hakeem
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Everyone gambles, both rich or poor.. That's what you need to know..
Secondly, yes - I must say the percentage of the average poor people is much more than that of the rich ... Yeah, for the actual fact that poor people are really keen of enriching themselves thus, Thier motives are different.
There's no how that would be graded on a perfect scale of equality.... But sometimes too, the rich makes speculations with huge potential wins,..and ofcourse that infers huge stakes too.. so why would anyone stake that high without an EXPECTATIONS at the end??
P/S: you don't stake high because you're rich, but because you actually have the guts and convictions of winning big..

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July 24, 2023, 11:41:58 PM
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I was in argument with someone. His view is that people who gamble are those that what they have is not sufficient for them and so they try to make more money from gambling. He said if you have sufficient money to take care of your needs that you won't think of gambling. He made reference to some rich people, who don't gamble because they have sufficient money to even gift to charity but that those rich who still gamble are only addicted to it not just because of the money. Therefore, that the percentage of the rich gambling is very small compared to those in middle class and lower class.

So my question is, is the percentage of the rich gambling lower than the middle and lower class?
There's no precise or accurate numbers on this one because there's no such thing about tallying on whose people that are rich or middle class or poor who had been playing and there's no way on knowing that but

somewhat we could be able to tell basing up on how they do bet up because rich people are the ones who would really be having those enormous wagering counts compared to those typical average gamblers who do really bet out a few bucks on their gambling activity. Speaking about the reason on why people gamble? It would be a personal thing but it would be coming on different variations on which it would really be just that
common that they would really be neither because of gambling addiction or would be solely just because they do make gambling as a source of income.

Each person does have their different set of interest in life and financial capacity and this is why reasoning would really be entirely be different to each other and this is why we cant really make out
some conclusive approach in between numbers.

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July 24, 2023, 11:53:15 PM
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Everyone wants their lives to be better than before. The same when happens with ease it'll be more enjoyable. This makes people to gamble as look for good profit. Not everyone are successful in it. Whether you've got sufficient money or not, it is human mind to look for more and more. We can't term it greed all the time, but this is how human minds were developed  Wink

Myself have got the same thoughts on gambling. I usually prefer to have my wallet balance stable and make some earning beyond that. This is usually to meet some of my needs, but the same won't succeed everytime and we should have the mind to accept the reality of gambling.

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Everyone wants their lives to be better than before. The same when happens with ease it'll be more enjoyable. This makes people to gamble as look for good profit. Not everyone are successful in it. Whether you've got sufficient money or not, it is human mind to look for more and more. We can't term it greed all the time, but this is how human minds were developed  Wink

Myself have got the same thoughts on gambling. I usually prefer to have my wallet balance stable and make some earning beyond that. This is usually to meet some of my needs, but the same won't succeed everytime and we should have the mind to accept the reality of gambling.
Alot of work needs to be put to the tests inother to lifts the gambling burdens. Bills and needs continue to arise; we cannot avoid them; rather, we must address them. Gambling for a better future is completely out of the question. A better life, comfortable and more improved than the previous. We all have basic needs to meet, and all we can do is strive every day to do the things that will help us and make us comfortable. The fundamental reason we gamble is not for amusement, but rather to generate some additional cash to add to our pockets in order to pay off pertinent bills that come our way.

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July 25, 2023, 02:01:03 AM
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I was in argument with someone. His view is that people who gamble are those that what they have is not sufficient for them and so they try to make more money from gambling. He said if you have sufficient money to take care of your needs that you won't think of gambling. He made reference to some rich people, who don't gamble because they have sufficient money to even gift to charity but that those rich who still gamble are only addicted to it not just because of the money. Therefore, that the percentage of the rich gambling is very small compared to those in middle class and lower class.
The person you had the argument with is naive both about human behaviour and how the economy and businesses work. First the person need to understand that nobody gambles because they do not have enough. In fact it is to me the least reasons why people gamble. I have never seen a gambler who wins money from gambling and uses the money to start a business. They always return to gambling because they believe that more luck will shine on them.

What the person should argue is that the rich are more prudent and financially literate than the poor. Reason why the rich own the casino and the poor goes them to give them their money.

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July 25, 2023, 02:21:18 AM
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How unfortunate is that but that is how some people look into gambling and consider this as a tool to get into a higher position of life without realizing that if they keep that money it is huge already.

I agree that it is an unfortunate situation that people look into gambling this way, expecting to be rich through gambling and because of such mentality, they play life savings and no borrowed money on it. This situation is usually rampant with the low income earners who don't have better monthly salary but want to find another source of income. Gambling is not another source of income , you can't calculate the ROI with gambling for it to favour you. ROI will always favour casino owner.
It is someone's fault in viewing or using gambling.
By now there should be more and more people who are aware that gambling is not a place that can be used to make a profit unless there is luck.
Yes, some people use their life savings to gamble and in the end they actually lose the savings they have, even worse, they ask for a loan so they can continue playing or betting in the hope of returning the losses that have occurred.

Want to wonder but that's what happens and is done by most of the gamblers out there.

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I was in argument with someone. His view is that people who gamble are those that what they have is not sufficient for them and so they try to make more money from gambling. He said if you have sufficient money to take care of your needs that you won't think of gambling. He made reference to some rich people, who don't gamble because they have sufficient money to even gift to charity but that those rich who still gamble are only addicted to it not just because of the money. Therefore, that the percentage of the rich gambling is very small compared to those in middle class and lower class.
The person you had the argument with is naive both about human behaviour and how the economy and businesses work. First the person need to understand that nobody gambles because they do not have enough. In fact it is to me the least reasons why people gamble. I have never seen a gambler who wins money from gambling and uses the money to start a business. They always return to gambling because they believe that more luck will shine on them.

What the person should argue is that the rich are more prudent and financially literate than the poor. Reason why the rich own the casino and the poor goes them to give them their money.

This is more logical indeed, I also think that people who do gambling are people who don't have money, to be precise they don't have enough money with them so they want to risk it in gambling to get more profit from practical profit methods even though they realize it's not easy to get profit from gambling because the percentage is very small, we need to take the average, and that's true.

Agree that someone who wins a decent amount of gambling won't even open a business, and usually they go back to gambling to double it again, if that's the reason it's definitely a fallacy.

Rich people think more about how they make money easily and don't make a loss, like the illustration you gave, the difference is that rich people make casinos while people who are below give their money, rich people have a more healthy and systematic mindset to earn money.
But personally, it's not that I don't have enough money or anything else as a reason for gambling, I'm just sometimes bored and gambling is a place where I get pleasure, and sometimes I want to try my luck. LOL

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