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September 17, 2023, 11:06:05 AM
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Only you can help yourself. That is really the scary truth for sure. That kind of gambler is kind of blind and deaf on advice and doesn't see those people who are trying to help those people, but for sure he will be waken up after something happens very worse to him. Because right now, for sure, if that mistake happens to him, even if we see it as a big one, for that gambler it is still small, so he is not shaken up on this. But again, if worse happens to him, he will struggle a lot, like pain emotionally or physically.

The thing is that in some cases nothing can "wake up" an addicted gambler. He always thinks he's main problem is not enough time and money. If he doesn't have sufficient money he thinks he should gamble even more. This is a big mistake that you should try improve your financial situation through gambling, but many people think like that. I said "think", but hardly it can be called "thinking". Gambling addiction deprived them of their ability to think. Only professionals can help such people.
And even professionals can have problems helping those people, as once a person has been addicted to anything for a very long period of time, it is very difficult for them to understand their life without the source of their addiction, so even if they could stay away from it for months or even years, at some point an event will happen on their lives which they will be unable to endure and in their minds the only way to cope with the situation is to go back to what they know best, which is their former addiction.

I think if they could stay away from the source of their addiction for years it would be a big victory for them. Then if they snapped at some point, they should turn to professionals again. You can't be cured for life from your addiction, or at least it happens in very rare cases.
A few years of abstinence is a great achievement, imo.

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September 17, 2023, 11:34:58 AM
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I don't quite agree with you. Almost any person can get rid of addiction even without the help of specialists once and for all, but only he must have a clear understanding that addiction brings him problems and a sincere desire to get rid of it. Most gamblers with gambling addiction are not ready to admit even to themselves that they have a problem. This is the main barrier in getting rid of addiction.

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September 17, 2023, 12:01:07 PM
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Well that's right, there is a difference in ability that we should know between the rich and the poor and it's obvious. As you said above, rich people can gamble whenever they want because they seem to have a lot of spare lives to gamble with, and also it's because they have a lot of income outside of gambling so there's nothing wrong if they allocate a little bit of their money to gambling some time. And what I predict from the rich is that they will not be too ambitious in pursuing victory in gambling, in the real world they already know how to make a real income and there is no way they give up all the results of their hard work just to gamble, it looks like it's impossible.

And yes I would say that too, I mean it's quite sad to see poor people who come with strong goals and passion but with the wrong mindset, like you said they will give up their hard earned money just to gamble and after that lose and yes they may have trouble eating because of that stupid action. I would say that it is not uncommon for the poor to come to casinos with the aim of multiplying the money they bring with them even if it is a small amount, so yes you really need to correct your mindset. It's better to use the money for your living needs, not just because you win then you easily fall into gambling.
Rich people can play games of chance without losing much since they have so much money. They play for fun, not need. Gamblers with little money risk more than money. Risk safety, food, and sometimes health.

Life is like gambling, isnt it? Rich people dont mind trying new things, while poor people should be cautious. However, dice, cards, and wheels never remember who you are or what you own.

Casinos are a way for the poor to escape reality for a while. However, lasting change comes from sensible choices, not risking everything for a fantasy. Always prioritize needs over wants or fun. Since the house always wins, its best to play it safe, especially with such big stakes.

Yes maybe that's true, I think the rich are just looking for entertainment and enjoyment there, but that doesn't mean they don't lose a lot, I'm saying maybe the amount they lose is quite a lot for us but for them it's just a small part of their treasure because yes they have a lot of money. It's clear that their friends the rich gamble just for fun, like I said above, not to seek income for needs, because it's clear that by not gambling alone they can already make a lot of money with the means they have.

Yes, that's right, rich people can be more free to try various new things related to money because they have abilities above poor people in money matters, so yes it is clearly very different from poor people who must always be careful in gambling, because if they lose it's like they give up the money that is not that much from their hard work, But yes maybe the dice round never sees who the person is, poor or rich will not affect in terms of opportunities or luck, it is very possible that those who are poor are much luckier than the rich but for the impact of defeat it is clear that the poor will definitely feel more lost than the rich, because that's the only money they have.

Some people have such assumptions especially for the poor, they come with very high goals and expectations, not infrequently we find those who come with the intention of multiplying the money they bring even with small amounts, but well I would say that it is the wrong mindset in gambling, instead of winning but they suffer with all the losses there. So yes it is better to prevent all of that, you must be able to be more assertive in seeing gambling, don't overdo it there and always think logically because it is clear that the house will always win.

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September 17, 2023, 06:54:59 PM
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I was in argument with someone. His view is that people who gamble are those that what they have is not sufficient for them and so they try to make more money from gambling. He said if you have sufficient money to take care of your needs that you won't think of gambling. He made reference to some rich people, who don't gamble because they have sufficient money to even gift to charity but that those rich who still gamble are only addicted to it not just because of the money. Therefore, that the percentage of the rich gambling is very small compared to those in middle class and lower class.

So my question is, is the percentage of the rich gambling lower than the middle and lower class?
Everybody have the reason for going into gambling in which the lack of money or the want for more money is a part of it. I have seen the rich gamble and I have seen the poor gamble. Statistically speaking, I would agree that there are more low to middle income earners gambling than the rich because the rich would rather prefer to own the casino than to gamble at the casino.
This is an issue with their mentality, those that achieved great wealth through their own efforts or they were raised with that level of wealth see the world differently, so when they see all the money that moves at casinos they do not think about gambling itself but about creating their own casino, while those that have lived their lives in lower levels of wealth know immediately they will never be able to create their own casino, and this means that if they want some of that money that moves at casinos then they will have to develop some sort of strategy that can make them some profits.
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September 24, 2023, 10:55:49 AM
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I don't quite agree with you. Almost any person can get rid of addiction even without the help of specialists once and for all, but only he must have a clear understanding that addiction brings him problems and a sincere desire to get rid of it. Most gamblers with gambling addiction are not ready to admit even to themselves that they have a problem. This is the main barrier in getting rid of addiction.

Well, it would be great, but in reality we don't see a lot of such cases, do we? It's like saying, anyone can go to university and graduate. Yes, in theory, it's true, but what about reality? In reality you need professionals to train you so you could at least be enrolled to the university. Of course, there are exceptions, and with getting rid of gambling addiction too. But those are rare cases.

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Rich people own the casinos and gambling websites lol. Actually rich people are fewer in percentage in comparison where poor and middle class are huge in numbers. the reason we normally see poor involving gambling more is becaus,  Most of such people gambling aggressive to change their status from poor to rich and keep doing such thing even after several times, make them more poorer. Apart from that, rich people don't need to change thier luck by doing gambler as they are already finally strong.they do Gambling for entertainment but it also true that they stake huge fund as because they have enough

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September 29, 2023, 08:59:54 AM
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Rich people own the casinos and gambling websites lol. Actually rich people are fewer in percentage in comparison where poor and middle class are huge in numbers. the reason we normally see poor involving gambling more is becaus,  Most of such people gambling aggressive to change their status from poor to rich and keep doing such thing even after several times, make them more poorer. Apart from that, rich people don't need to change thier luck by doing gambler as they are already finally strong.they do Gambling for entertainment but it also true that they stake huge fund as because they have enough
- The difference in mindset between the rich and the poor is evident. Consequently, their approach to gambling also varies. One group can casually engage in gambling as entertainment because, fundamentally, the wealthy can easily recover any potential losses with their existing mindset and resources.
- On the other hand, for the less fortunate, it's a completely different story; rebuilding what's lost can be incredibly challenging. These differing mentalities lead to distinct outcomes, making it often easier for the wealthy to succeed in gambling.

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September 29, 2023, 02:00:39 PM
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Rich people own the casinos and gambling websites lol. Actually rich people are fewer in percentage in comparison where poor and middle class are huge in numbers. the reason we normally see poor involving gambling more is becaus,  Most of such people gambling aggressive to change their status from poor to rich and keep doing such thing even after several times, make them more poorer. Apart from that, rich people don't need to change thier luck by doing gambler as they are already finally strong.they do Gambling for entertainment but it also true that they stake huge fund as because they have enough
These people see gambling as a way to get rich quickly so they don't think twice that gambling is not a place to make money. They are fascinated by the stories of people who managed to win from gambling so that it is indirectly embedded in their subconscious mind and say they should try it once or twice. But the reality will not be as they imagine because many of them will lose all their money from gambling. Even if they want to recover their losses, they will have difficulty and lose even more. That's why they don't need to gamble if they want to get rich quickly because that way won't exist unless they are really lucky.

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September 29, 2023, 02:18:58 PM
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Rich people own the casinos and gambling websites lol. Actually rich people are fewer in percentage in comparison where poor and middle class are huge in numbers. the reason we normally see poor involving gambling more is becaus,  Most of such people gambling aggressive to change their status from poor to rich and keep doing such thing even after several times, make them more poorer. Apart from that, rich people don't need to change thier luck by doing gambler as they are already finally strong.they do Gambling for entertainment but it also true that they stake huge fund as because they have enough
The rich gamble for fun and with reserved or extra cash they have they don't gamble because it's going to get them rich but if they eventually get lucky at the casino they become even richer as their staking power is usually high enough such that if it doubles up it becomes almost a fortune and if it turns out a loss they feel it but don't get crazy as the intentions was basically for fun and they attached less emotions.

The so called poor or middle class wants to get rich with a single bet or stake which is definitely not really realistic as it's almost not possible that with little stake you amass a fortune, 95% of the time it turns out a loss and they keep their hopes high and continue placing more bets and end up loosing out the little they have to the casino.

But then if only this poor or average people will follow some principles as done by the rich then they can gradually build a fortune by a compounding profit system where they start small, stake on possible events regardless of the small odds and finally compound their profits, this way they could be able to gradually grow wealth with gambling, although this is not proven to be a 100% strategy but then you can risk it if you want to.

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That is quite for sure, But whether people gamble for fun or for the fact they don't have at all a source of income or a stable income, so far it involves staking of money, the target of everyone that gambles is to realize a profit, Either you are rich,  poor, or a middle-class,  just that the difference is in that the rich gamble with less pressure or money they can afford to lose and also have hope of getting back the money from another source if they lose, while the poor mostly gamble or throw in any money and even at some point over risk because they are desperate to sustain from the profit they are hoping to make from the bet.

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September 29, 2023, 06:43:34 PM
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I don't quite agree with you. Almost any person can get rid of addiction even without the help of specialists once and for all, but only he must have a clear understanding that addiction brings him problems and a sincere desire to get rid of it. Most gamblers with gambling addiction are not ready to admit even to themselves that they have a problem. This is the main barrier in getting rid of addiction.
Yah you are right, but it is very difficult to do especially if you are the only one fighting right? So for me it is possible if you are surrounded by people who love and care about you, people you can trust. It's a big thing to know that there are people who are still there for you. It's a great help but not only that, you should also avoid any temptations when it comes to gambling.

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I don't quite agree with you. Almost any person can get rid of addiction even without the help of specialists once and for all, but only he must have a clear understanding that addiction brings him problems and a sincere desire to get rid of it. Most gamblers with gambling addiction are not ready to admit even to themselves that they have a problem. This is the main barrier in getting rid of addiction.
I somewhat agree, being addicted to gambling is certainly a very detrimental thing for anyone who does it, because they are not thinking intelligently enough to carry out actions that will harm themselves and other people as well. In principle, people who are addicted to gambling will do anything for the sake of it. fulfilling their inner desires even though they have to sacrifice their own family, there are quite a few cases where perpetrators who are addicted to gambling will destroy their families, especially if they have a certain business, their business will be destroyed because of their addiction to gambling. Therefore, there are many things that must be anticipated in social life, including avoiding the habit of gambling, and even more simply, never approaching gambling if you don't want to destroy yourself and your family.

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September 30, 2023, 03:51:19 AM
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So my question is, is the percentage of the rich gambling lower than the middle and lower class?
- Wealthy individuals often view gambling as a form of amusement, where they can enjoy the thrill without fearing significant financial consequences. They can afford calculated risks, accepting losses as part of the game.
- In contrast, the poor might turn to gambling out of desperation, seeking a quick financial remedy, which often leads to riskier decisions and more substantial losses. In essence, this variance in mindset significantly influences divergent outcomes, typically favoring the wealthy in the realm of gambling.
- The middle and lower classes make up a larger portion of the population compared to the wealthy. Therefore, I believe that the percentage of wealthy individuals who engage in gambling will be lower than that of the middle and lower classes.
Therefore, there are many things that must be anticipated in social life, including avoiding the habit of gambling, and even more simply, never approaching gambling if you don't want to destroy yourself and your family.
I agree with you that we should try to avoid this habit, but sometimes in our lives, we get caught up in the game passively. So, I think it's best to learn how to manage it rather than just avoiding it altogether.

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I don't quite agree with you. Almost any person can get rid of addiction even without the help of specialists once and for all, but only he must have a clear understanding that addiction brings him problems and a sincere desire to get rid of it. Most gamblers with gambling addiction are not ready to admit even to themselves that they have a problem. This is the main barrier in getting rid of addiction.
Yah you are right, but it is very difficult to do especially if you are the only one fighting right? So for me it is possible if you are surrounded by people who love and care about you, people you can trust. It's a big thing to know that there are people who are still there for you. It's a great help but not only that, you should also avoid any temptations when it comes to gambling.
It's okay if he struggles alone to cure his gambling addiction, but it's not easy because he has to conquer his ego to leave gambling. Most gamblers will not easily admit their gambling addiction because they feel they do not have a gambling addiction and are still gambling. If they can admit it and try to quit gambling within their means, it will be a blessing for them because they can finally leave their gambling addiction behind. They will no longer gamble because they have no money and will look for money from other places because that is more feasible than making money from gambling.
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It's okay if he struggles alone to cure his gambling addiction, but it's not easy because he has to conquer his ego to leave gambling. Most gamblers will not easily admit their gambling addiction because they feel they do not have a gambling addiction and are still gambling. If they can admit it and try to quit gambling within their means, it will be a blessing for them because they can finally leave their gambling addiction behind. They will no longer gamble because they have no money and will look for money from other places because that is more feasible than making money from gambling.
Gambling is essentially for us to keep making steady extra changes for our wants, and not our basic needs. Exactly the point most gamblers failed to understand, we can not depend on gambling for gigantic earnings, rather we should keen on making multiple reliable streams of incomes that would be beneficial for us and taking care of our families wouldn't be a challenging task. Gambler been in the position to discover that he's an addict is rare these days because no one would admits they've fallen victims of gambling because everyone is grownup and wouldn't offered to take corrections.

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So my question is, is the percentage of the rich gambling lower than the middle and lower class?
According to what have I researched on in the past, rich people gamble too. They are less in number than average and poor people, but they spend more.

No rich people who did not make his money from gambling goes into gambling, unless he is fighting depression and going through alot or he does it with his friends for fun sake. What rich people do is investment. If you doubt it, you can check those rich people who gamble and their lifestyle. And since the number of rich people in the world is smaller compared to poor people, it is expected that the percentage of gambling rich people will be smaller also.
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Maybe it's not what is that bad if one should need some money and think about risking getting some through gambling, in this case, he realized that gambling is not an investment, such user is also aware of the risk with gambling for either winning or losing, lastly he's not taking gambling as a steady source of income to sustain or maintain a living, but instead trying out the opportunity to wether something new surprising could comes out while gambling to settle his needs.



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who don't gamble because they have sufficient money to even gift to charity but that those rich who still gamble are only addicted to it not just because of the money. Therefore, that the percentage of the rich gambling is very small compared to those in middle class and lower class.

So my question is, is the percentage of the rich gambling lower than the middle and lower class?
To know this we need to observe what is the purpose of our gambling? If the issue of money income is get the highest priority, then it must be understood that the number of middle class or lower class is more because they try to be quick rich though there is no exact calculation, but approximately the result can be like this. On the other hand, if Gambling is only focus for entertainment purpose, then there may be a higher number of elites, but there is no way to say for accurately. As there is a middle class in every part of the world, they will certainly try to income more than elite, Although there is no exact statistics of it.

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September 30, 2023, 02:47:01 PM
 #480

Maybe it's not what is that bad if one should need some money and think about risking getting some through gambling, in this case, he realized that gambling is not an investment, such user is also aware of the risk with gambling for either winning or losing, lastly he's not taking gambling as a steady source of income to sustain or maintain a living, but instead trying out the opportunity to wether something new surprising could comes out while gambling to settle his needs.
For me, I started to gamble when my friend showed his earnings to me. I got jealous because of that and me want to earn more, I become greedy and it makes me frustrated because I want to earn more. I gamble not because I have insufficient funds but rather because of my greed and I want to earn more like my friend. My money is sufficient in our everyday needs, but when I started to play unendlessly it becomes an addiction but luckily I caught myself so early.

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