⚽ Lega Serie A 🇮🇹 (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2024/2025⚽

[giammangiato]

Juventus has a bad habit lately to sell great defenders right ? We all remember how they had Dragusin ( now Spurs players ) on their academy and simply let him go to Genoa where he developed massively in just half a year and then they sold him to Spurs for quite amount of money + Bayern were also on the line to transfer him but he chose Spurs. So yea , let's hope they didn't make a huge mistake and the kid will be able to develop in Premier League and catch a big transfer next year for a top 4 team in Premier League.

In recent years, you may have noticed that Juventus' results have not been the best.  You may have noticed that in two years we have accomplished nothing or won anything.  If a team like this doesn't win and monetize, it practically dies and goes bankrupt.
We need a change of mentality to fix things: Thiago Motta.

[bastisisca]

Source: Transfermarkt

Dean Hujsen is shown like he is a "defensive prospect" for Juventus but set to sign for Bournemouth on the other hand. Even for only 18 million euros. How much do you know about him? I hope they aren't losing an important talent.

Juventus needs every single skilled player as of now. They are in a new era with Motta. If Hujsen is also skilled for real then they should loan him the most, not sell him permanently. There are so many centre-backs in their squad of course. Maybe the player also wants to leave because of thinking he wouldn't find much chance in the near future. Maybe after gaining some experience in the Premier League he would return to Italy stronger. 

He really looks super young, he has the face of a little boy here.  Exactly if they want to chase away the old era they have to target young talents while also trying not to ruin them, it doesn't take much to ruin a young man permanently (if you remember Balotelli the teams ruined him, namely Inter)

[ILuckyGuyI]

Still I don't see another centre-forward speculation on Milan's agenda, interesting. I guess they are thinking of creating a duo with Morata and Jovic then? Morata had better not be the only forward ahead. He isn't good with that responsibility. 

Giroud's contribution to the team has been enormous until now. He was great last season too and now he has left. Milan needs to make their plans accordingly not to get less productive.

By the way it is sad to see De Ketelaere leaving Milan by not contributing properly. He is actually a talented midfielder but I guess he had problems on adapting to Milan. Because he was great at Atalanta last season which must be why they wanted to make the deal permanent. 

[tusandii]

For most people betting on friendly matches is something absolutely crazy but I couldn't resist when I saw the tempting odds.

Napoli win
Bologna win
Torino lose or draw

This is a short prediction from me because we can't see how much the chance of victory is like this but in my opinion the option I choose will provide a decent profit for me.
We can see the previous performance of Napoli and Bologna who always scored more than 2 goals in every friendly match and for Torino actually their performance is almost equal to Lyon and anyone can choose both clubs to score to get odds @1.47

[bastisisca]

Still I don't see another centre-forward speculation on Milan's agenda, interesting. I guess they are thinking of creating a duo with Morata and Jovic then? Morata had better not be the only forward ahead. He isn't good with that responsibility. 
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Milan AC is strangely silent in this signing season, I'm not really understanding their strategy in this regard, it seems like they're keeping everything a secret.  I don't understand why but that's okay.  Of course I agree with you on Morata, we'll see what happens in the next few weeks.

[giammangiato]

new speculation about transfer

when	who	from	to	price
Jul 26	Andrea Colpani Midfielder	Monza	Fiorentina	Loan
Jul 26	Filip Marchwinski Midfielder	Lech Poznan	Lecce	Undisclosed
Jul 24	Dailon Rocha Livramento Attacker	MVV Maastricht	Hellas Verona	600000
Jul 23	Che Adams Attacker	Southampton	Torino	Free
Jul 23	Thijs Dallinga Attacker	Toulouse	Bologna	15million
Jul 22	Mattia Viti Defender	OGC Nice	Empoli	Loan

[babo]

Source: Transfermarkt

Dean Hujsen is shown like he is a "defensive prospect" for Juventus but set to sign for Bournemouth on the other hand. Even for only 18 million euros. How much do you know about him? I hope they aren't losing an important talent.

Juventus needs every single skilled player as of now. They are in a new era with Motta. If Hujsen is also skilled for real then they should loan him the most, not sell him permanently. There are so many centre-backs in their squad of course. Maybe the player also wants to leave because of thinking he wouldn't find much chance in the near future. Maybe after gaining some experience in the Premier League he would return to Italy stronger. 

I personally would do the opposite of what some teams do, I would sell all the "great" players at an advanced age to cultivate very strong spring teams.
A strong spring guarantees you a powerful generational turnover, and also allows you to monetize.
Football schools are very useful.

[giammangiato]

Milan AC is strangely silent in this signing season, I'm not really understanding their strategy in this regard, it seems like they're keeping everything a secret.  I don't understand why but that's okay.  Of course I agree with you on Morata, we'll see what happens in the next few weeks.

In reality they signed Alvaro Morata, but it's true only 1 purchase, perhaps Fonseca doesn't want to go too far and is copying Carlo Ancelotti's strategy and buying is what's needed.  Honestly, I'm also stunned, even if if you think about it they really don't have a "shortage" of players, it was Pioli who didn't know how to use them too well.

[babo]

the strategy of buying young promising players is not a strategy of a super intelligent person, it's an obvious strategy
only the stupid and stupid do the opposite, they sell talented young players
it means that they don't want to invest in the future and obviously for me this makes them become dead teams

[bastisisca]

the strategy of buying young promising players is not a strategy of a super intelligent person, it's an obvious strategy
only the stupid and stupid do the opposite, they sell talented young players
it means that they don't want to invest in the future and obviously for me this makes them become dead teams

Some teams have no interest in doing this, they have become listed companies their aim is to make money
Managing new talent is expensive and not very profitable, which is why they prefer to buy and exchange.  They are no longer talented coaches but traders.
Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad, but their job is different now.  This in my opinion.

[giammangiato]

Modern football has changed a lot in recent years, we have witnessed things that have unfortunately distorted it from what it was, the reason being money.
..follow me in my reasoning, to make money they have to play games and play, by playing so much they need players who basically burn like wood in the fireplace
So let's say their objective becomes short-term and no longer long-term

[Lillominato89]

Modern football has changed a lot in recent years, we have witnessed things that have unfortunately distorted it from what it was, the reason being money.
..follow me in my reasoning, to make money they have to play games and play, by playing so much they need players who basically burn like wood in the fireplace
So let's say their objective becomes short-term and no longer long-term

It's always nice to read your opinions dear friend, every now and then I come back and make an appearance, as you know work and family commitments are many and time is always short, but let's get back to the point. You are absolutely right, nowadays soccer is no longer passionate but pure business, there is a lot of money going around and there will be more and more, because to keep the circus going more and more money will be needed. Have you ever tried lately to buy a ticket for a match of a major team? Like Juventus- Lecce? A ticket starts from no less than 40€ is we are talking about a simple league game, for big matches the price goes up, a Champions League final costs at least 10 times as much. There is a lot of money going around, and it will always take more to be able to pay salaries to players

[Lillominato89]

the strategy of buying young promising players is not a strategy of a super intelligent person, it's an obvious strategy
only the stupid and stupid do the opposite, they sell talented young players
it means that they don't want to invest in the future and obviously for me this makes them become dead teams

Some teams have no interest in doing this, they have become listed companies their aim is to make money
Managing new talent is expensive and not very profitable, which is why they prefer to buy and exchange.  They are no longer talented coaches but traders.
Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad, but their job is different now.  This in my opinion.

In Italy very few coaches try to put young talent in the team, especially in the big teams almost no one wants to take the risk of constantly using young talent, and almost no one bets on young Italians, one of the many reasons why the Italian national team is the worst in the last 50 years. Only Allegri I have seen often use promising young people but he has paid the consequences

[bastisisca]

In Italy very few coaches try to put young talent in the team, especially in the big teams almost no one wants to take the risk of constantly using young talent, and almost no one bets on young Italians, one of the many reasons why the Italian national team is the worst in the last 50 years. Only Allegri I have seen often use promising young people but he has paid the consequences

How stupid really, young talent should be an investment for teams to make and not a way to punish coaches who use them.
Then you just have to spend millions to buy players who are in fashion, another stupid thing.
I honestly don't understand this, but I can't help it.

[giammangiato]

It's always nice to read your opinions dear friend, every now and then I come back and make an appearance, as you know work and family commitments are many and time is always short, but let's get back to the point. You are absolutely right, nowadays soccer is no longer passionate but pure business, there is a lot of money going around and there will be more and more, because to keep the circus going more and more money will be needed. Have you ever tried lately to buy a ticket for a match of a major team? Like Juventus- Lecce? A ticket starts from no less than 40? is we are talking about a simple league game, for big matches the price goes up, a Champions League final costs at least 10 times as much. There is a lot of money going around, and it will always take more to be able to pay salaries to players

Thank you and welcome back, you will surely have spent a little time during the summer holidays, please rest.
Exactly the matches cost too much, but evidently people find it easy to go to the stadium anyway by subtracting money from other things.
As long as people can afford it the game holds up, if something goes into crisis the first thing that gets cut is the fun.  So you understand well that the system cannot last.

[hahay]

In Italy very few coaches try to put young talent in the team, especially in the big teams almost no one wants to take the risk of constantly using young talent, and almost no one bets on young Italians, one of the many reasons why the Italian national team is the worst in the last 50 years. Only Allegri I have seen often use promising young people but he has paid the consequences

How stupid really, young talent should be an investment for teams to make and not a way to punish coaches who use them.
Then you just have to spend millions to buy players who are in fashion, another stupid thing.
I honestly don't understand this, but I can't help it.

It's not just about Allegri which playing young players because after all, other teams in Serie A also still have young players and in fact about Inter, who won the Scudetto, also has Lautaro Martinez who is a key player in their success. Do you know how old Lautaro Martinez is now? he is currently 26 years old but they still managed to be the best in Serie A. Also, there are still other teams in Serie A who play and maximize their young talents and not only Allegri. So, I don't agree if you conclude that Allegri's dismissal was because he failed to maximize the young talent in the Juventus squad.

But the point is, teams in Serie A have been deemed still willing to play older players compared to the Premier League which relies heavily on speed. But that doesn't mean that the teams in Serie A all play older players more than young players because after all, the proof is that there are still Serie A teams that are still successful by relying on and/or maximizing young players and also about Atalanta who managed to become the team that won the Europa League last season with the young players he had as well.

[Hirose UK]

the strategy of buying young promising players is not a strategy of a super intelligent person, it's an obvious strategy
only the stupid and stupid do the opposite, they sell talented young players
it means that they don't want to invest in the future and obviously for me this makes them become dead teams

Some teams have no interest in doing this, they have become listed companies their aim is to make money
Managing new talent is expensive and not very profitable, which is why they prefer to buy and exchange.  They are no longer talented coaches but traders.
Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad, but their job is different now.  This in my opinion.

In Italy very few coaches try to put young talent in the team, especially in the big teams almost no one wants to take the risk of constantly using young talent, and almost no one bets on young Italians, one of the many reasons why the Italian national team is the worst in the last 50 years. Only Allegri I have seen often use promising young people but he has paid the consequences

It is not easy to build team by fulfilling most of the players using young talents, there will be several conditions and also risks that can occur such as decline in performance when young players cannot develop properly and can be detrimental to the team if young players experience unwanted things such as injuries.
For now, every Serie-A team prefers and prioritizes being able to fulfill all the needs of players with mature age and have more dominant skills.
Difference in the past and now has been very clear, in the past Serie-A became League that had most of the teams able to create great young generation, almost every team could develop players and make young players valuable assets.
Now maybe we can only see young players who already have quite good careers, each team does not dare to take risks and choose shortcuts by buying young players who have succeeded in developing from other League team.

But it can be admitted that Allegri is one of the last coaches who still often uses young players and tries to develop hidden talents, unfortunately he failed and there was no success as expected.

[babo]

building a team that works takes a lot of work
it is not enough to simply buy strong players, in fact you can very well see that often Brazil, which certainly has the strongest players in the world, is not able to orchestrate these talents well
the problem is to fit together talents that compensate each other and also people with a character that compensates for each other
Furthermore, we need to create a harmonious environment where working together is a pleasure

It's not easy, you have to work many months for this

[Sg4j1n3ll0]

building a team that works takes a lot of work
it is not enough to simply buy strong players, in fact you can very well see that often Brazil, which certainly has the strongest players in the world, is not able to orchestrate these talents well
the problem is to fit together talents that compensate each other and also people with a character that compensates for each other
Furthermore, we need to create a harmonious environment where working together is a pleasure

It's not easy, you have to work many months for this

It is true but let's also say that to work well they also need good players, I am thinking about an easy example, Juventus for example is the classic club that the thing are not going well because there was a coach who could not Orchestrate all the talents of the group and I honestly see it like this, better its departure, with a new coach the speech changes but it is difficult and it takes time, I also see a coach who wants to upset everything like Antonio Conte who wants to all Costs Lukaku in my opinion has a strong team that needs only time instead he wants at all costs new players and so it will be the ruin of the team!

[len01]

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But the point is, teams in Serie A have been deemed still willing to play older players compared to the Premier League which relies heavily on speed. But that doesn't mean that the teams in Serie A all play older players more than young players because after all, the proof is that there are still Serie A teams that are still successful by relying on and/or maximizing young players and also about Atalanta who managed to become the team that won the Europa League last season with the young players he had as well.

The reason is quite simple, if the team from series A is more believed that older players are more professional and have great experience in all competitions and certainly have a great mentality. Not that only relying on old players, but some teams have also begun to rely on young players who are currently in the process of building the expertise possessed by the young player.
And on the one hand when comparing EPL with series A, in my opinion it makes no difference. Because these two leagues are equally competitive and in fact there is no dominance and Inter becomes a strong candidate in UCL a few seasons ago when qualifying for the final round.