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August 21, 2024, 10:06:55 AM
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...Chiesa is really out of squad as of now. He is no longer a part of Motta's plans. But it was obvious this was going to happen. Because there wasn't any good signal for his future...
I don't agree with this wicked choice at all, absolutely zero. Unfortunately, he is the coach, Thiago Motta and he has chosen this way.
Meanwhile, the match against Como went very well, three goals scored for the newly promoted team and a lot of entertainment. So much beauty in the game. I'm hopeful.
Looking at the news and some rumors, many have stated that several of Juventus rival teams in Serie-A will not get Chiesa services because he himself refused to play with other Serie-A team if he had to leave Juventus.
Previously, Chiesa was mainstay player who was always included in the main squad for Juventus planning while still under the leadership of coach Allegri, but now under Thiago Motta everything has changed and major overhaul has really happened.
Barcelona, ​​Manchester United, and Chelsea are three team that are interested in being able to bring in Chiesa but I really don't know if one of them will really be able to have Chiesa and reach an agreement or not before the summer transfer window closes at the end of this month.
I hope Juventus can really perform impressively this season, they must be able to show that they are one of the strongest team like in the last few season when Juventus were the defending champions in Serie-A.

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August 21, 2024, 10:14:46 AM
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Looking at the news and some rumors, many have stated that several of Juventus rival teams in Serie-A will not get Chiesa --snip--

As a true Roma fan, I think only to my team, but i think this: the Coach take decision. If coach decide to drop a player, he decide and take decisions. We can only watch and said something at bar with friends

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August 21, 2024, 03:49:06 PM
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...Chiesa is really out of squad as of now. He is no longer a part of Motta's plans. But it was obvious this was going to happen. Because there wasn't any good signal for his future...

I don't agree with this wicked choice at all, absolutely zero. Unfortunately, he is the coach, Thiago Motta and he has chosen this way.
Meanwhile, the match against Como went very well, three goals scored for the newly promoted team and a lot of entertainment. So much beauty in the game. I'm hopeful.

unfortunately he is the coach like it or not you have to accept this: I understand that you think it is a stupid choice, and I understand very well the logic behind your way of thinking. What you say makes sense but evidently Federico Chiesa doesn't need him in framing players or he doesn't think he can use him in his strategies.

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August 21, 2024, 07:48:30 PM
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Chiesa's next team will definitely be an important part if he stays in Italy, it could change the league in the sense that it will make one team better. Juventus already doesn't want him and they made that known easily, but we need to make sure that where he goes could actually benefit from him.

I do not think that he is a bad player at all, I think he could help a team out, and if he goes to Roma, then suddenly Roma is better thanks to him as well. It's a mistake to let him go if you ask me, he could help Juventus massively, but for some reason manager just came in and decided that he doesn't want him and that was the end of it. In any case, it's good that he can at least leave for a team that will want him, that matters for him.
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August 21, 2024, 08:03:40 PM
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Chiesa's next team will definitely be an important part if he stays in Italy, it could change the league in the sense that it will make one team better. Juventus already doesn't want him and they made that known easily, but we need to make sure that where he goes could actually benefit from him.

I do not think that he is a bad player at all, I think he could help a team out, and if he goes to Roma, then suddenly Roma is better thanks to him as well. It's a mistake to let him go if you ask me, he could help Juventus massively, but for some reason manager just came in and decided that he doesn't want him and that was the end of it. In any case, it's good that he can at least leave for a team that will want him, that matters for him.

Thiago Motta also doesn't seem to need Chiesa because after all, for their first match yesterday against Como also the fact that Chiesa was not included in the Juventus squad. Thus, it will certainly be a good choice for Chiesa to leave immediately. Because after all, with his young age, Chiesa should still be actively playing because Chiesa also has great potential as a soccer player.

But, based on one of the sources I got it looks like Chiesa also prefers to play outside Serie A and rumor has it, Barcelona is also interested in negotiating. But yes, I think if Chiesa chooses Barcelona then it seems to be very unfortunate because Barcelona also has a lot of problems. Thus, it would be better for Chiesa to immediately accept the offer even if it is from a team playing in Serie A. Because anyway, Juventus also don't need him anymore, so playing for AS Roma or maybe another top Serie A team I think would be good for Chiesa than having to play at Barcelona.

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August 22, 2024, 07:59:34 AM
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unfortunately he is the coach like it or not you have to accept this: I understand that you think it is a stupid choice, and I understand very well the logic behind your way of thinking. What you say makes sense but evidently Federico Chiesa doesn't need him in framing players or he doesn't think he can use him in his strategies.

Ok this makes you angry but I mean, is the team winning? is the team playing well? So why complain. If he is managing to do something and has decided not to use Federico Chiesa, he is probably right at this point.

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August 22, 2024, 08:07:09 AM
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unfortunately he is the coach like it or not you have to accept this: I understand that you think it is a stupid choice, and I understand very well the logic behind your way of thinking. What you say makes sense but evidently Federico Chiesa doesn't need him in framing players or he doesn't think he can use him in his strategies.

Ok this makes you angry but I mean, is the team winning? is the team playing well? So why complain. If he is managing to do something and has decided not to use Federico Chiesa, he is probably right at this point.

In fact you are not entirely wrong, but you know what they say, in Italy we are all a bit of a coach and a bit too much of a football fan and therefore we take certain decisions like this one to remove Federico Chiesa from the squad to heart.
But you're right, if the team wins, it means that they were right and that perhaps a player as good as him unfortunately doesn't work with his strategies.

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August 22, 2024, 08:09:15 AM
 #1629

In fact you are not entirely wrong, but you know what they say, in Italy we are all a bit of a coach and a bit too much of a football fan and therefore we take certain decisions like this one to remove Federico Chiesa from the squad to heart.
But you're right, if the team wins, it means that they were right and that perhaps a player as good as him unfortunately doesn't work with his strategies.

Indeed, if I were a Juventus fan I would already be happy, he scored three goals against Como with a dominated match. Let remember last year was a year of suffering and passion for Juventus fans. Clearly it is still early to judge, we have to wait a few months to understand if he is really good or not like coach.

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August 22, 2024, 12:21:06 PM
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Indeed, if I were a Juventus fan I would already be happy, he scored three goals against Como with a dominated match. Let remember last year was a year of suffering and passion for Juventus fans. Clearly it is still early to judge, we have to wait a few months to understand if he is really good or not like coach.

True true, for example the fans of Inter who didn't start well at all can't be happy nor the fans of Napoli who got slapped by Verona.
I am not a Juventus fan, I always feel sorry when talented young Italians are not exploited: this is with a view to having strong players in the national team.
If they don't play, they don't gain experience and therefore aren't of much use. That's why I felt bad about it.

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August 22, 2024, 03:33:39 PM
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Chiesa's next team will definitely be an important part if he stays in Italy, it could change the league in the sense that it will make one team better. Juventus already doesn't want him and they made that known easily, but we need to make sure that where he goes could actually benefit from him.

I do not think that he is a bad player at all, I think he could help a team out, and if he goes to Roma, then suddenly Roma is better thanks to him as well. It's a mistake to let him go if you ask me, he could help Juventus massively, but for some reason manager just came in and decided that he doesn't want him and that was the end of it. In any case, it's good that he can at least leave for a team that will want him, that matters for him.


It seems Chiesa won't stay in Italy. I found this news recently.



Source: https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/40940003/barcelona-considering-federico-chiesa-signing-sources

Juventus didn't treat him well, and he is very close to the door of leaving Juventus. It's obvious Motta doesn't need him. It gives Barcelona a chance to use Chiesa as an alternative LW for Nico W. At 15 million, Chiesa is a bargain for them. It's better than signing Nico.

Chiesa was not a bad player, but Motta sees he doesn't fit his strategy. So, Motta decides to cash him in for some money.


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August 22, 2024, 03:37:04 PM
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Motta has started his Juventus career really well. That convincing performance and win must have made the supporters very contented.  Smiley  It is quite the beginning but I have good feelings about Motta this season. I think he will have a better finish than the previous season. By saying better I mean collecting more points at first. Finishing in 2nd place at worst would also be quite possible with this effort.

This is really a new era. I mean for young coaches. They have started to shine a lot and Xabi Alonso's success also has a good role in that. It has made teams more courageous to give those coaches a chance too.

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August 22, 2024, 04:17:21 PM
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Previously, Chiesa was mainstay player who was always included in the main squad for Juventus planning while still under the leadership of coach Allegri, but now under Thiago Motta everything has changed and major overhaul has really happened.

If the rumours are to be believed, Barcelona is the most advanced club to sign Chiesa. The club is asking for about 15 million for Chiesa but it seems Barcelona want a lower price and they also need to offload some players so there will be space for the new signings. I'm also seeing news that Barcelona are considering a loan option. I doubt the deal will go through, everything seems too slow and there is not enough time.

I hope Juventus can really perform impressively this season, they must be able to show that they are one of the strongest team like in the last few season when Juventus were the defending champions in Serie-A.

I also want Juventus to do well this season. I would like them to win the league because they worked very hard to finish in that position last season despite the point deductions. Also, I like what Thiago Motta did with Bologna last season and that made me a fan. I am excited to see what he can do with Juventus this season.

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August 22, 2024, 05:08:42 PM
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Motta has started his Juventus career really well. That convincing performance and win must have made the supporters very contented.  Smiley  It is quite the beginning but I have good feelings about Motta this season. I think he will have a better finish than the previous season. By saying better I mean collecting more points at first. Finishing in 2nd place at worst would also be quite possible with this effort.

English: It can be said that Thiago Motta achieved success in his first match, this indicates a significant change shown by Juventus, yesterday I watched the match and compared the game shown by Juventus last season with now, the difference is clearly visible, it is possible that Motta can achieve success with Juventus this season, and can compete at the top of the Serie A standings, but I will not expect too much considering this is still the first week, and yesterday's opponent was not a team that was able to compete, there are still many matches that Juventus will play. I hope Thiago Motta can appear consistently in every match he will play this season so that the final result can benefit Juventus.

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August 22, 2024, 06:07:27 PM
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Motta has started his Juventus career really well. That convincing performance and win must have made the supporters very contented.  Smiley  It is quite the beginning but I have good feelings about Motta this season. I think he will have a better finish than the previous season. By saying better I mean collecting more points at first. Finishing in 2nd place at worst would also be quite possible with this effort.

This is really a new era. I mean for young coaches. They have started to shine a lot and Xabi Alonso's success also has a good role in that. It has made teams more courageous to give those coaches a chance too.

I really enjoy the gameplay of Juventus against Como. It's a really unexpected result for me to see us completely destroy Como. Though it was a newly promoted club, there were many stars there. Some players showed extraordinary performances in that game. Yıldız had great control. Thuram excelled at ball distribution. Mbangula looked so hungry and carried us.

There are many positive things shown in the game against Como. That's what I called it if Motta made progress in his new club, and also if he successfully motivated his players. Despite poor results in our pre-season games, Motta was able to change the game play in a short time.

We are back to our best form. If Juventus's players can keep this up, we'll compete for the title. Our competitors are nothing.

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August 22, 2024, 06:24:33 PM
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Indeed, if I were a Juventus fan I would already be happy, he scored three goals against Como with a dominated match. Let remember last year was a year of suffering and passion for Juventus fans. Clearly it is still early to judge, we have to wait a few months to understand if he is really good or not like coach.

True true, for example the fans of Inter who didn't start well at all can't be happy nor the fans of Napoli who got slapped by Verona.
I am not a Juventus fan, I always feel sorry when talented young Italians are not exploited: this is with a view to having strong players in the national team.
If they don't play, they don't gain experience and therefore aren't of much use. That's why I felt bad about it.

It seems, if it is related to Chiesa I think Juventus maybe wants to get profit from his sale because after all, considering that Chiesa only has one season left on his contract. Therefore, I personally think this is not about Chiesa's poor performance, but because maybe with the new coach Juventus also doesn't need Chiesa and at the same time Juventus will also sell him to still get profit.

But, if considering the fate of young players who at least play in Serie A, I think not only Chiesa but also Osimhen who is also no longer needed by the team or maybe in a rough term is thrown away or kicked. Obviously,  it is very unfortunate because the fate of young players with great potential is not utilized as well as possible by the team. But besides the two young players, at least there is still Dybala who AS Roma also seems ready to sell, it is really unfortunate for them because they are also clearly still able and capable of playing well.

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August 22, 2024, 11:18:52 PM
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Looking at the news and some rumors, many have stated that several of Juventus rival teams in Serie-A will not get Chiesa --snip--

As a true Roma fan, I think only to my team, but i think this: the Coach take decision. If coach decide to drop a player, he decide and take decisions. We can only watch and said something at bar with friends

Last season Roma had an impressive recovery, but in the last few league games they have fallen a lot, the strangest thing is that this season Roma have not made any big signings, which shows that they are not looking to win Serie A as their main objective, from what I could see they have signed the following players: Artem Dovbyk, João Costa, Matías Soulé, Niccolò Pisilli, Enzo Le Fée, Samuel Dahl, Angeliño. But they lost Lukaku who in many situations helped in the goals and they were also very close to losing Dybala.

Paulo Dybala has rejected €75m package as salary spread over three years from Al Qadsiah…

…he wanted to stay at AS Roma.

source: https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1826690420908126535

which in my opinion means that this season Roma's attack will be weaker than last season. I don't know what Roma's management plans are, but in my opinion Roma won't win anything relevant this season. Maybe this new coach can't convince the good players to go to Roma and had to settle for the available players.

Chiesa's next team will definitely be an important part if he stays in Italy, it could change the league in the sense that it will make one team better. Juventus already doesn't want him and they made that known easily, but we need to make sure that where he goes could actually benefit from him.

I do not think that he is a bad player at all, I think he could help a team out, and if he goes to Roma, then suddenly Roma is better thanks to him as well. It's a mistake to let him go if you ask me, he could help Juventus massively, but for some reason manager just came in and decided that he doesn't want him and that was the end of it. In any case, it's good that he can at least leave for a team that will want him, that matters for him.


It seems Chiesa won't stay in Italy. I found this news recently.



Source: https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/40940003/barcelona-considering-federico-chiesa-signing-sources

Juventus didn't treat him well, and he is very close to the door of leaving Juventus. It's obvious Motta doesn't need him. It gives Barcelona a chance to use Chiesa as an alternative LW for Nico W. At 15 million, Chiesa is a bargain for them. It's better than signing Nico.

Chiesa was not a bad player, but Motta sees he doesn't fit his strategy. So, Motta decides to cash him in for some money.



Barcelona is a bankrupt team, it has become the worst team for any player who wants to succeed in his career.

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August 23, 2024, 07:25:10 AM
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Juventus definitely looks like a good team, and they look like they are ready for a better season. They were fine last season before breaking down and the fans are just expecting Juventus to end up with something that is much better, it is going to end up being very good, it is going to be a fine result without a doubt. I feel like it is going to be nice result and not going to be like last season for them. They have a much better manager and they got some decent players as well, it all looks good for them and the first game was definitely a great one as well.

This should be a good period for them, I do not think that they are going to get a bad result, it might be a season where they are quite happy with what they get. Being champions at the end of the season is the goal but I am not sure if they are going to be THAT good, they have the potential but it is not going to be easy and it will take time for them to have something like that, probably top four again is enough.

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August 23, 2024, 05:33:07 PM
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unfortunately he is the coach like it or not you have to accept this: I understand that you think it is a stupid choice, and I understand very well the logic behind your way of thinking. What you say makes sense but evidently Federico Chiesa doesn't need him in framing players or he doesn't think he can use him in his strategies.

I understand that I am not the coach, but we can say that it is logical to keep young and talented players in the team. Not just for you, but if you give it away to your opponent you are essentially giving the enemy a gift. I think this way and I am free to think this way.

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