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August 18, 2023, 10:56:20 PM
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A family member reported to me that her eighteen years old son has started gambling. She is not worried that he is gaming but her problem is that he is a student that solely depends on her for everything he needs. Her fear is also that her son might start stealing from her if he has no access to the money he needs to gamble. My relative has even started suspecting that some money she feels was misplaced might have been stolen by her son.

I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?

Those small habits will be very destructive in time. IMO it's best to heed the advice of the mother in order to curb this possible gambling addiction. You'll never know how deep you would want to be in this hobby especially if there is an incentive every time you win from it. Anything that will give you rewards, you will go back to no matter the risks are. That's how our brains are wired.

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August 18, 2023, 11:03:40 PM
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A family member reported to me that her eighteen years old son has started gambling. She is not worried that he is gaming but her problem is that he is a student that solely depends on her for everything he needs. Her fear is also that her son might start stealing from her if he has no access to the money he needs to gamble. My relative has even started suspecting that some money she feels was misplaced might have been stolen by her son.
She understands what it would be like for him when their is no body he could get money from, she is aware what addiction in gambling can turn people into just to satisfy their interests in gambling.  It is dangerous for young people who do not have any source of income to be lover of gambling, it can change their mindset which they can take gambling as a way to generate money that will end up getting them to be addicted to gamble. I see her reason why she is so worried about her son  because she knows the side effects.  

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August 18, 2023, 11:11:21 PM
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What I would have said is that, he gambles responsibly but from the OP, yiu say his already doing that which means, he ain't got no problem.  I think who has a problem or who needs advice is the parent.
Some patents needs to come to terms with the fact that, their kid is a young adult and has fly the net. Yeah, though till dependent, there comes a time in a child's life where they want certain things, want to experience things the adult way and there happens to be very little a parent can do about it. You can't hover over them for ever. If you did a good job in the upbringing of the child, it becomes a time where you trust in your upbringing to aid your child chose between vice and a morally guided life.

Let him play if he must and he alone could find reasons not to. You can only put options before him but, he's got yo chose freely and not because he's been pressured to.

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August 18, 2023, 11:15:59 PM
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A family member reported to me that her eighteen years old son has started gambling. She is not worried that he is gaming but her problem is that he is a student that solely depends on her for everything he needs. Her fear is also that her son might start stealing from her if he has no access to the money he needs to gamble. My relative has even started suspecting that some money she feels was misplaced might have been stolen by her son.

I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?
The problem in this case isn't gambling itself, but the possibility the son is stealing money from the mother. That is a very serious issue. He said to not have stolen anything, but if it wasn't he, who was it, then? I think for a mother to accuse her own son of such terrible crime it means she has strong evidences of that, correct? Because when you point your finger to someone calling him a thief, you are directly attacking the honor of this person, so you must be sure of what you are doing.

What I can say is that this situation should be further investigated before reaching any conclusions here.

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August 18, 2023, 11:17:41 PM
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There's a little percentage of boys that are responsible at 18 years of age. So yes, he may look responsible now, but what about a year later if he keeps on doing that? The worst case scenario is, he is doing that thing while he was underage and faking his ID. Did you ask the boy who taught him to gamble? I bet his friends are the ones who urge him to do that if his mother is against it. Because there will be no example in the house and he should've not learned about it.
There is a simple way to make him stop and it actually doesn't need a long talk.
Stop it or you won't receive any money anymore. Because that's the problem, he is still dependent on the money he receives and he won't likely have any means to gamble if no one gives him cash. I doubt he will also find a decent job especially if he is hooked to the gambling game.

Also, suggest to the Mommy to stop using credit cards because once it is stolen by the boy then he can just swipe it away. Use debit instead with a password that is not hers or his birthdate. Don't bring cash.

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August 18, 2023, 11:26:40 PM
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A family member reported to me that her eighteen years old son has started gambling. She is not worried that he is gaming but her problem is that he is a student that solely depends on her for everything he needs. Her fear is also that her son might start stealing from her if he has no access to the money he needs to gamble. My relative has even started suspecting that some money she feels was misplaced might have been stolen by her son.

I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?
it's not easy to raise a child especially when they grow up and turn into someone who is independent and don't listen to advice from parents anymore, If i were to become the parent of this adult boy, i would try to talk heart to heart with him about the negative impact that might happen to him if he could not control his gambling activities.  Besides that, he would also tell him that living humans have responsibilities and when he is able to make his own money then it is his right to use the money but limit it to gambling capital.

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August 18, 2023, 11:30:31 PM
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A family member reported to me that her eighteen years old son has started gambling. She is not worried that he is gaming but her problem is that he is a student that solely depends on her for everything he needs. Her fear is also that her son might start stealing from her if he has no access to the money he needs to gamble. My relative has even started suspecting that some money she feels was misplaced might have been stolen by her son.

I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?
The problem in this case isn't gambling itself, but the possibility the son is stealing money from the mother. That is a very serious issue. He said to not have stolen anything, but if it wasn't he, who was it, then? I think for a mother to accuse her own son of such terrible crime it means she has strong evidences of that, correct? Because when you point your finger to someone calling him a thief, you are directly attacking the honor of this person, so you must be sure of what you are doing.

What I can say is that this situation should be further investigated before reaching any conclusions here.
If he wont be stopping on engaging with gambling then sooner or later his son would definitely be stealing up something from her which it is really that a huge problem specially on family-related issues or problems which needs to be cut-off or needed up some solution. We know that active dealing with gambling could really be potentially be making you that an addicted person and this is a must thing that

should really be avoided but scolding out your children wont do something good but rather they would become that rebelious.This is why i do agree on some points that in order to solve this one then
better talk one on one with your child and telling them on stopping or minimizing on doing gambling because it doesnt really give out that good financial status or condition but rather on too much spending on leisure or entertainment is always that not a good step to make. Cutting off the allowance might be the key but on the time that you are on a tough situation then this would might spark out
on making your child stealing specially if the addiction is severe.
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August 18, 2023, 11:39:11 PM
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I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?
Even though he was gambling use his weekly savings but it must be monitored properly. I meant there must be a prevention act before he was being addicted with gambling. Always try to tell him about the risk once he becomes addicted. He shall only focus on his study. He must stop as he doesn't have active income. He may potentially face a trouble in the future once he becomes very addicted to the gambling and he doesn't have money to play.
Try to stop him before it's too late. I can understand he has been trying properly using money from his saving but a prevention act is needed to make sure he will not be addicted.
It will be so difficult to stop him if he will be addicted to the gambling. Try to take care of him before it's too late. He was doing everything correctly but since he has no active income source and his mother must be careful with him.

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August 18, 2023, 11:42:36 PM
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A family member reported to me that her eighteen years old son has started gambling. She is not worried that he is gaming but her problem is that he is a student that solely depends on her for everything he needs. Her fear is also that her son might start stealing from her if he has no access to the money he needs to gamble. My relative has even started suspecting that some money she feels was misplaced might have been stolen by her son.

I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?
It's easy to deny things when someone has gotta know that you're gambling. The boy is still a teenager and that's why he might have told you a lie or he could also be telling the truth.

The boy should just have to stop gambling because he's starting to build it up. By the time that he gets his job then he can continue again so that he's earning what he's using in gambling.

That's also the advice to me by my parents that if ever I've got vices or what not, it should come from my own effort and salary.

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August 18, 2023, 11:42:56 PM
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I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?

He never stole from his mother but he is putting his mother's money where it should not belong and that is in his education, Young men should know that they are not free to do what they want to do if they are not yet earning on their own, gambling is vice and parents knows that gambling is an addiction they have no way of knowing if their children are already addicted and they will resort to bad deeds to get more money because when it comes to addiction no money is enough.

The kid should stop if he has respect for his parent, no parent will tolerate their children gambling if they are still studying, and it will affect their studies.

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August 18, 2023, 11:52:30 PM
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This should be stopped at the right time, if not he could end up with addiction. During their school education they shouldn't be exposed to such activities. Nowadays this is really difficult, it is the parents responsibility to explain the student in this best way and keep him away from gambling. Once started to experience the addiction, surely it'll keep them follow it unlike the scenario around them.

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August 19, 2023, 12:03:08 AM
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A family member reported to me that her eighteen years old son has started gambling. She is not worried that he is gaming but her problem is that he is a student that solely depends on her for everything he needs. Her fear is also that her son might start stealing from her if he has no access to the money he needs to gamble. My relative has even started suspecting that some money she feels was misplaced might have been stolen by her son.
At this age, children are often exploring new things. And whatever they like, usually they will continue to do it. The problem is related to gambling. what is worrying is if he continues to play gambling and then becomes addicted to gambling, this is what is dangerous. because after all, at this age, most teenagers are still unstable and cannot manage and control themselves properly. Not only financially but also mentally and emotionally. Meanwhile, in gambling, everything has to be good, otherwise there will be more negatives than positives. As parents, our job is to monitor, guide, and also give direction if it is felt to be too much. give understanding to him so that he can be wiser, smarter, and also alert in any condition, especially in gambling. Take care and control yourself so that you can stay under control and not get addicted to gambling which will give more negative issues later. Tell them slowly.

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August 19, 2023, 01:12:47 AM
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I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?

It is a complicated subject, as it depends a lot on the discipline and education that the young person has received.
If the parents are communicative and the child is obedient, the best way is to teach the youngster the harm that games of chance can cause if they are played irresponsibly.
In addition, it is necessary to "awaken" in young people the need to direct part of the money they receive to something that is not related to gambling, either in some investment for the future or in another leisure activity that provides moments nice.

If it were a child, it would certainly be best to fully control the spending of money, but as we are already talking about an adult, it is necessary to think that he will be able to seek other "sources of income" to continue playing, so the best way is certainly dialogue.

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August 19, 2023, 02:04:54 AM
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I don't think the forum is the right place to judge your nephew. Unless more information related to his activities are shared here none of us can judge him. Do remember every addict would always defend themselves by telling lies. If cash is missing from the house then things have gone from bad to worst. Just by talking you cannot judge or conclude whether he is a responsible gambler. My recommendation would be to keep an eye on him and if things look worst then necessary actions should be taken against him.

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August 19, 2023, 02:57:59 AM
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This should be stopped at the right time, if not he could end up with addiction. During their school education they shouldn't be exposed to such activities. Nowadays this is really difficult, it is the parents responsibility to explain the student in this best way and keep him away from gambling. Once started to experience the addiction, surely it'll keep them follow it unlike the scenario around them.
Financial freedom is the ultimate priorities of everyone in the universe, we need it to achieved our goals and paying our bills independently. That alone will puts respect on your name without been a dependent clause on your guardians. Gambling is present and legal, specifically now that's online, which is easily accessible to everyone without differentiating the age number level. Gambling are not meant for teenagers, rather by working class individuals, those that have a profession going. Teenagers who gamble should be urged to quit because it would be the beginning of their down fall.

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August 19, 2023, 04:35:14 AM
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I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?
Stealing money from him is a risk that is as close to reality as it is likely to be. There is an even bigger risk that does not rule out the possibility that it will happen if his child continues to play gambling games such as robbing until he is ready to kill to fulfill his gambling hobby.
We have found many stories in the media related to murder cases due to gambling motives.

As a parent, I will not directly forbid the child to stop gambling, the approach I take is by saying that get a decent job first. Please fulfill all your wishes from the results of the income you get from your work.
Psychologically, children will fight when their wishes are denied or prohibited. But give him the choice to think.

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August 19, 2023, 04:43:50 AM
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A family member reported to me that her eighteen years old son has started gambling. She is not worried that he is gaming but her problem is that he is a student that solely depends on her for everything he needs. Her fear is also that her son might start stealing from her if he has no access to the money he needs to gamble. My relative has even started suspecting that some money she feels was misplaced might have been stolen by her son.

I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?
That is one form of the lack of parental supervision of their children and also the wrong association in making friends, I'm sure he also has friends who like to gamble so that it affects him.
He must be given direction before it's too late because the impact of gambling addiction for a student is very bad and can affect the performance of his brain in learning while at school.
After all, he is still a student and has not been able to work to earn money for gambling, so when he is really addicted, it can have a negative impact steal to gamble.

You are more experienced at gambling so you can give advice and direction to your nephew.
Do not let the younger generation be poisoned by gambling activities which can be addictive and then do things that are not desirable.

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August 19, 2023, 04:50:20 AM
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A family member reported to me that her eighteen years old son has started gambling. She is not worried that he is gaming but her problem is that he is a student that solely depends on her for everything he needs.

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What will be your advice for this young boy?

Well, I don't think it's a good idea for him to spend what little pocket money his mother gives him on gambling. Let him spend it on going out with his friends, on entertainment, but not on that.

My advice would be to teach him mathematics applied to gambling. If he is a student, even if he is not a science major, he will understand and see that when one gambles, the expected return is usually negative, then act accordingly. After a talk like that, and maybe I would take him to the casino one day, for normalising the subject, giving explanations about odds, HE and EV, negative in this case in casino games.

After that, I would tell him not to gamble with my money, that if I found out he was doing it, I would not give him any more pocket money. But I think that the explanations would be enough to open his eyes so that he wouldn't have false hopes about gambling.

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August 19, 2023, 05:12:09 AM
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A family member reported to me that her eighteen years old son has started gambling. She is not worried that he is gaming but her problem is that he is a student that solely depends on her for everything he needs. Her fear is also that her son might start stealing from her if he has no access to the money he needs to gamble.
If I were her, I won't be afraid if he has stolen the money, but afraid that his morals are broken because it's not time yet to play gambling. because his psyche (young) is still unstable. He could be an emotional person when mature. he will probably spend more time in casinos without thing again his future.

What will be your advice for this young boy?
maybe it's better to add him to tutoring outside school, I have a nephew who is always active when school hours are over, so in that situation, his father brings him to take additional lessons Piano player outside the main school.

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August 19, 2023, 05:22:26 AM
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What will be your advice for this young boy?
Help him understand responsible gambling by enlightening him about the potential risks associated with his gambling activities, including the possible impact on his studies. Make sure he comprehends that gambling is an addictive activity and emphasize that developing an addiction is a deeper and more serious concern than mere participation.

I'm pleased that you are seeking advice from the community regarding this matter. It would be beneficial to monitor his actions while maintaining an open and positive approach of support toward him.

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