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September 02, 2023, 05:49:31 PM
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Children shouldn't be allowed near gambling before a certain age but parents nowadays don't really care about these things, they don't even supervise their children after providing them with all kinds of facilities like electronic devices and internet connections and everything else they might need for gambling or being able to gamble. If they have a device with internet access and has money and also know how to access gambling platforms, what can stop them?

The only thing that can stop children from getting involved in such things is the regular supervision of the parents. They shouldn't allow them to always stay locked in their rooms and do whatever they want without even checking their devices to see what they do on them, such children will surely get spoiled.
This may seem complicated for parents who are busy and have jobs, let alone busy doing business, so they rarely see their children and are never involved in anything their children do. I agree with that that children should be prohibited from gambling before they reach the right age. relatively mature, let's say they can make money from work, not from their parents' money.

At least when gambling with the results of your work or your own money, I think it's a sign of maturity, it's difficult to supervise children in this technological age where everything can be accessed just using a cellphone, the most important thing is that they must be taught responsibility where what they do will always be there. risky, because to ban him from gambling would usually bring his curiosity to try it.
Educating their children from the early age is the least they can do if they are busy working. Making their kids responsible of every movement they make and making their kids understand the negative effects of gambling. Most likely, their kids can carry out the knowledge that their parents pass to them even when they are on the legal age.

Technology has their own advantage, Restricting some possible actions in the devices of your children is possible nowadays. I wonder if there's an application that can block known websites that shouldn't be accessed by minors like casinos.
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September 02, 2023, 06:02:30 PM
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Children shouldn't be allowed near gambling before a certain age but parents nowadays don't really care about these things, they don't even supervise their children after providing them with all kinds of facilities like electronic devices and internet connections and everything else they might need for gambling or being able to gamble. If they have a device with internet access and has money and also know how to access gambling platforms, what can stop them?

The only thing that can stop children from getting involved in such things is the regular supervision of the parents. They shouldn't allow them to always stay locked in their rooms and do whatever they want without even checking their devices to see what they do on them, such children will surely get spoiled.
This may seem complicated for parents who are busy and have jobs, let alone busy doing business, so they rarely see their children and are never involved in anything their children do. I agree with that that children should be prohibited from gambling before they reach the right age. relatively mature, let's say they can make money from work, not from their parents' money.

At least when gambling with the results of your work or your own money, I think it's a sign of maturity, it's difficult to supervise children in this technological age where everything can be accessed just using a cellphone, the most important thing is that they must be taught responsibility where what they do will always be there. risky, because to ban him from gambling would usually bring his curiosity to try it.
Educating their children from the early age is the least they can do if they are busy working. Making their kids responsible of every movement they make and making their kids understand the negative effects of gambling. Most likely, their kids can carry out the knowledge that their parents pass to them even when they are on the legal age.

Technology has their own advantage, Restricting some possible actions in the devices of your children is possible nowadays. I wonder if there's an application that can block known websites that shouldn't be accessed by minors like casinos.
Unfortunately, it seems to me that such devices never fully block the access to sites that are not intended for children.  In every school class there is always a computer genius, the same age as your children, who, from an early age is knows well how to get around all these protections.  Children and teenagers constantly communicate with each other and such information from this local genius soom becomes known to other children.  Very often, a local computer prodigy is much better than adults in bypassing system restrictions.  Therefore, the problem can perhaps be solved only if any gadget which can be used for gambling and other non-child activties (a phone, a laptop, a computer) is taken away from a child. Otherwise, no access limiting applications would help.

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September 02, 2023, 06:19:14 PM
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Unfortunately, it seems to me that such devices only partially block the access of children, and especially teenagers, to sites that are not intended for children.  In any school classroom there is always a computer genius, the same age as your children, who from an early age is well versed in how to get around all these protections. 

Even without this othe children help. There’s a lot of available source in the internet to fix almost everything related to the gadget such as forum and youtube since internet gives the freedom to explore almost anything in the web.

A simple child restriction will only work for a short time because human always have the curiosity to explore those forbidden and try it for themselves. I were the parents, I will slowly educate them about gambling so that they can decide for their own that gambling is risky instead of giving them a restriction that will push them to explore more out of curiosity.

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September 02, 2023, 06:45:04 PM
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Even without this othe children help. There’s a lot of available source in the internet to fix almost everything related to the gadget such as forum and youtube since internet gives the freedom to explore almost anything in the web.

A simple child restriction will only work for a short time because human always have the curiosity to explore those forbidden and try it for themselves. I were the parents, I will slowly educate them about gambling so that they can decide for their own that gambling is risky instead of giving them a restriction that will push them to explore more out of curiosity.

The internet was huge available for most of the source,even though the parents start to restrict the children.The children get curiosity about the gambling and start to play without the parents knowledge.This may leads to stealing of money from their parents wallet and bank account by their own children.To avoid such things,one  should do some spreading about the gambling knowledge to their children.Then the children can play with their parents the game and no hide between the parents and children.This help the parents to control the children and control the number of games played by their children for a week.This also help the gambling parents to avoid of their children to become a gambling addict.

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September 02, 2023, 07:22:07 PM
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Current with my environment habit, many of the as gambler not have financial dependents and brave spent their money for gambling, its not right decision before having financial dependents but want to spent their money who needed for their family. Indeed with financial dependent or not but for single person is not matter if spent their money for gambling but how come for people have family and they are not having financial dependent keep push their self deposit money in gambling. I have give education about gambling is not way for earning consistency and not place for getting higher return, its only for entertainment and spent their time when getting difficult situation at working place.

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September 02, 2023, 07:36:51 PM
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Everyone is looking for one or two way that they will be earning money, but gambling is not way of earning if we are to be sincere but do to lack of ways are hard that is why some people take gambling as way maybe it will be possible to making some money there. It is not bad for eighteen years old person to gamble and I think that is the qualified age that many gambling companies are using but the main problem now is that the boy is still a student which have not started earning expect to rely on his mother,which I can say is big problem because when it become addicted and he don't have money with him, it can make attempts to gave it in others which can illegal ways. So I will just advise is her to tell him to stop gambling.

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September 02, 2023, 08:59:03 PM
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Children shouldn't be allowed near gambling before a certain age but parents nowadays don't really care about these things, they don't even supervise their children after providing them with all kinds of facilities like electronic devices and internet connections and everything else they might need for gambling or being able to gamble. If they have a device with internet access and has money and also know how to access gambling platforms, what can stop them?

The only thing that can stop children from getting involved in such things is the regular supervision of the parents. They shouldn't allow them to always stay locked in their rooms and do whatever they want without even checking their devices to see what they do on them, such children will surely get spoiled.
This may seem complicated for parents who are busy and have jobs, let alone busy doing business, so they rarely see their children and are never involved in anything their children do. I agree with that that children should be prohibited from gambling before they reach the right age. relatively mature, let's say they can make money from work, not from their parents' money.

At least when gambling with the results of your work or your own money, I think it's a sign of maturity, it's difficult to supervise children in this technological age where everything can be accessed just using a cellphone, the most important thing is that they must be taught responsibility where what they do will always be there. risky, because to ban him from gambling would usually bring his curiosity to try it.
Educating their children from the early age is the least they can do if they are busy working. Making their kids responsible of every movement they make and making their kids understand the negative effects of gambling. Most likely, their kids can carry out the knowledge that their parents pass to them even when they are on the legal age.

Technology has their own advantage, Restricting some possible actions in the devices of your children is possible nowadays. I wonder if there's an application that can block known websites that shouldn't be accessed by minors like casinos.

Unfortunately, it seems to me that such devices never fully block the access to sites that are not intended for children.  In every school class there is always a computer genius, the same age as your children, who, from an early age is knows well how to get around all these protections.  Children and teenagers constantly communicate with each other and such information from this local genius soom becomes known to other children.  Very often, a local computer prodigy is much better than adults in bypassing system restrictions.  Therefore, the problem can perhaps be solved only if any gadget which can be used for gambling and other non-child activties (a phone, a laptop, a computer) is taken away from a child. Otherwise, no access limiting applications would help.
But in todays era on which these devices are really that indeed relevant or really that a necessity on someones learning because we know that when it comes to researches and other stuffs then these things
are really the main things that been used when you are really that tending to learn on something and come in mind that in education then this would really be that relevant. It is really just that there are some usage which it would really be putting you out on a wrong direction on which this is something that cant really be avoided for a child to be able to encounter. This is why proper guidance and proper realizations towards those
things is crucial or much needed.
If you do find that you children is on the verge of that addiction then its better to cut off those sources on which you would really be able to definitely stop that possible addiction.
You are the ones who would really be needing to make such act so that you would really be able to completely stop on what are those potential things that could happen.
Be wary and be attentive because you are the ones who would really be suffering later on when problems had become severe.

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September 02, 2023, 08:59:08 PM
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It is not bad for eighteen years old person to gamble and I think that is the qualified age that many gambling companies are using but the main problem now is that the boy is still a student which have not started earning expect to rely on his mother,which I can say is big problem because when it become addicted and he don't have money with him, it can make attempts to gave it in others which can illegal ways. So I will just advise is her to tell him to stop gambling.
By many state laws, 18years of age is a proper age to allow for certain decisions and activities as a person. Once you’re 18 years of age, you’re backed by law on so many grounds as well as you would be prosecuted by those laws in the event that you’re found wanting in a crime.
There is a reason why the 18year of age was picked and that’s because, it’s been averaged as the age where one could have the least success with making good decisions and do they, well, that’s persons specific.

Gambling isn’t a crime and neither is it a crime when you gamble as a student or use your parents funds. It just happens that your not being fair to yourself and parent or guardian should you be gambling based on what is been provided for you to carter for your education. That’s outrightly wrong on all counts.

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September 02, 2023, 09:58:24 PM
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If gambling has become a habit, then we cannot force someone easily to stop or refrain it from doing. Sometimes the best revenue for that is to educate that person so that he will never gamble without caution. That simply means that he should also gamble with his own budget, and if ever he’ll lose all his budget, then call it a day.

Students nowadays are most likely to be exposed in gambling since it’s only a one click away. And since we can’t do nothing about this as this is part of their growth on how they adopt this new revolution, at least we should learn to educate them instead and always give them reminders not to fall for gambling addiction. And that they should only gamble at a moderate level, by not compromising their studies.

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September 06, 2023, 03:06:42 AM
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It is not bad for eighteen years old person to gamble and I think that is the qualified age that many gambling companies are using but the main problem now is that the boy is still a student which have not started earning expect to rely on his mother,which I can say is big problem because when it become addicted and he don't have money with him, it can make attempts to gave it in others which can illegal ways. So I will just advise is her to tell him to stop gambling.
By many state laws, 18years of age is a proper age to allow for certain decisions and activities as a person. Once you’re 18 years of age, you’re backed by law on so many grounds as well as you would be prosecuted by those laws in the event that you’re found wanting in a crime.
There is a reason why the 18year of age was picked and that’s because, it’s been averaged as the age where one could have the least success with making good decisions and do they, well, that’s persons specific.

Gambling isn’t a crime and neither is it a crime when you gamble as a student or use your parents funds. It just happens that your not being fair to yourself and parent or guardian should you be gambling based on what is been provided for you to carter for your education. That’s outrightly wrong on all counts.
Correct, this is about responsibility towards oneself and the person giving you that money, in a way giving money to a young person is a test imposed by their parents or guardians, what will you do with this money? Can you use it responsibly or will you do something wild with it? And it is clear that someone which uses the money they were given to gamble instead of covering their most basic needs has failed this test completely.
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September 06, 2023, 04:21:39 AM
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In fact, the issue is much more acute than it seems at first glance. The student's mother is worried about what gambling can lead to for her son, because he has no regular income, and she is well aware that gambling requires money.

I would advise this guy to quit gambling and save his mother's psychological health, or to find a part-time job and spend the money he earns as he sees fit. In this case, the guy will have a job and his mother will not worry.

It is good when relatives know what you are into and watch for changes in your behavior.

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September 06, 2023, 04:40:45 AM
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I would advise this guy to quit gambling and save his mother's psychological health, or to find a part-time job and spend the money he earns as he sees fit. In this case, the guy will have a job and his mother will not worry.
I agree. Even he's already in legal age to gamble, the point is, he's still depending on his parents financially and the money given is meant for his studies and not for leisure.

Thus, it's normal for parents to be worried if they became aware that their son is into gambling. Therefore, an advice of looking for a side job is better rather than relying on his mother's given allowance. This way, the son can have a budget if he wants to entertain himself through gambling.

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September 06, 2023, 04:53:26 AM
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If this guy is a student, he has little life experience and is unlikely to realize that the most precious thing a person can have is his parents, brothers, sisters, spouses and children. I believe that if your behavior or activity affects their psychological health, then you need to find a way to stop negatively affecting them. In my opinion the option of this guy hiding his gambling habits from his mother would be much better than her constant worrying.

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September 06, 2023, 05:02:07 AM
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The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?

I think that it is a bit late to worry about it. I mean, I don't think overprotection will be the best solution for an adult. The only way to help would've been to educate him about gambling habits when he was younger and unable to play, and teach him some fundamentals so he understands that bets are not a reasonable business or investment, but leisure and it costs money.

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September 06, 2023, 05:42:07 AM
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The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?

I think that it is a bit late to worry about it. I mean, I don't think overprotection will be the best solution for an adult. The only way to help would've been to educate him about gambling habits when he was younger and unable to play, and teach him some fundamentals so he understands that bets are not a reasonable business or investment, but leisure and it costs money.

Again, it has already been too late, as for sure he already tastes the gambling feeling and is always wanting it. Also,  right now, I would say he is already a big boy, and somewhat the way you disciplined that boy before is not working, so it would be better to talk about him seriously and have a sit-down with him about the risks of gambling to him and to people around him. Tell him the story about other people who got addicted to it and how it ruined their lives.
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September 06, 2023, 06:27:08 AM
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I agree. Even he's already in legal age to gamble, the point is, he's still depending on his parents financially and the money given is meant for his studies and not for leisure.

Thus, it's normal for parents to be worried if they became aware that their son is into gambling. Therefore, an advice of looking for a side job is better rather than relying on his mother's given allowance. This way, the son can have a budget if he wants to entertain himself through gambling.

When I reached the age of majority, I could provide for myself, in which case you begin to look at money with a completely different responsibility. Of course, I tried different strategies in gambling at this time, because I was looking for a way to get rich quick, but I did it with extreme caution and worried even about losing small amounts on a loss. So it is possible that when a teenager starts earning money on his own, then his responsibility in gambling will be higher.

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September 06, 2023, 09:07:42 AM
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I agree. Even he's already in legal age to gamble, the point is, he's still depending on his parents financially and the money given is meant for his studies and not for leisure.

Thus, it's normal for parents to be worried if they became aware that their son is into gambling. Therefore, an advice of looking for a side job is better rather than relying on his mother's given allowance. This way, the son can have a budget if he wants to entertain himself through gambling.

When I reached the age of majority, I could provide for myself, in which case you begin to look at money with a completely different responsibility. Of course, I tried different strategies in gambling at this time, because I was looking for a way to get rich quick, but I did it with extreme caution and worried even about losing small amounts on a loss. So it is possible that when a teenager starts earning money on his own, then his responsibility in gambling will be higher.

Yes, when you reach adulthood, you will have the opportunity to look for and get a job and like you said, you will be able to support yourself, albeit not fully, but at least you won't be so dependent on your mother. You say that you're looking for ways to get rich from gambling? I honestly don't believe in this at all, the principle is that gambling was invented just for fun friends and nothing more than that, so don't go too far looking for winnings there, especially if your goal is to get rich quick. Okay, I understand that you'll be using your own money here and won't be using your parents' dependent money, but still we should have a healthier view of gambling.

Lastly, I honestly don't think there's any strategy that can increase the odds of winning, that's just nonsense, and if that were true it would mean a lot of people getting rich but the fact is you probably also know that the rich get poor and the poor get poorer, that's gambling. So the bottom line is don't expect anything from gambling except fun, because it's purely about luck.
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September 06, 2023, 09:52:31 AM
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Children shouldn't be allowed near gambling before a certain age but parents nowadays don't really care about these things, they don't even supervise their children after providing them with all kinds of facilities like electronic devices and internet connections and everything else they might need for gambling or being able to gamble. If they have a device with internet access and has money and also know how to access gambling platforms, what can stop them?

The only thing that can stop children from getting involved in such things is the regular supervision of the parents. They shouldn't allow them to always stay locked in their rooms and do whatever they want without even checking their devices to see what they do on them, such children will surely get spoiled.
This may seem complicated for parents who are busy and have jobs, let alone busy doing business, so they rarely see their children and are never involved in anything their children do. I agree with that that children should be prohibited from gambling before they reach the right age. relatively mature, let's say they can make money from work, not from their parents' money.

At least when gambling with the results of your work or your own money, I think it's a sign of maturity, it's difficult to supervise children in this technological age where everything can be accessed just using a cellphone, the most important thing is that they must be taught responsibility where what they do will always be there. risky, because to ban him from gambling would usually bring his curiosity to try it.
Educating their children from the early age is the least they can do if they are busy working. Making their kids responsible of every movement they make and making their kids understand the negative effects of gambling. Most likely, their kids can carry out the knowledge that their parents pass to them even when they are on the legal age.

Technology has their own advantage, Restricting some possible actions in the devices of your children is possible nowadays. I wonder if there's an application that can block known websites that shouldn't be accessed by minors like casinos.
Unfortunately, it seems to me that such devices never fully block the access to sites that are not intended for children.  In every school class there is always a computer genius, the same age as your children, who, from an early age is knows well how to get around all these protections.  Children and teenagers constantly communicate with each other and such information from this local genius soom becomes known to other children.  Very often, a local computer prodigy is much better than adults in bypassing system restrictions.  Therefore, the problem can perhaps be solved only if any gadget which can be used for gambling and other non-child activties (a phone, a laptop, a computer) is taken away from a child. Otherwise, no access limiting applications would help.
The concluding part is very good, no matter how much you protect a regular gadget from children, they might still find their way around it. Children discuss a lot among friends and some children's parents don't care much, a loose child could infest yours if care is not taken. Aside from that, there are children with wider gaps from their older siblings, those ones could tell them a whole lot of things or they naturally learn a lot from them at their tender age. As parents are trying to guide against all that, I believe it's good to hand over to your children the right gadgets at the right age. There are gadgets that are specifically made for children, they will not allow anything adult programs, that is my suggestion on the gadget concern.

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September 06, 2023, 12:47:41 PM
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I agree. Even he's already in legal age to gamble, the point is, he's still depending on his parents financially and the money given is meant for his studies and not for leisure.

Thus, it's normal for parents to be worried if they became aware that their son is into gambling. Therefore, an advice of looking for a side job is better rather than relying on his mother's given allowance. This way, the son can have a budget if he wants to entertain himself through gambling.

When I reached the age of majority, I could provide for myself, in which case you begin to look at money with a completely different responsibility. Of course, I tried different strategies in gambling at this time, because I was looking for a way to get rich quick, but I did it with extreme caution and worried even about losing small amounts on a loss. So it is possible that when a teenager starts earning money on his own, then his responsibility in gambling will be higher.

Well, that's another way to see it, and I think that you are right and your case repeats in many cases when teenagers have to face the real world when they reach the majority. Unfortunately, not all of them will be as responsible as you were or we may think, and for the parents who suffer something like that it has to be a difficult situation to handle. Because their son is free to do what he wants, and some of them will do the wrong thing. That's why education at a young age is the best prevention.

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September 06, 2023, 03:33:04 PM
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If this guy is a student, he has little life experience and is unlikely to realize that the most precious thing a person can have is his parents, brothers, sisters, spouses and children. I believe that if your behavior or activity affects their psychological health, then you need to find a way to stop negatively affecting them. In my opinion the option of this guy hiding his gambling habits from his mother would be much better than her constant worrying.
A student does not have good financial ability unless he is from a rich family and is given a lot of money daily by his parents. But this method does not educate him to be able to manage his finances because usually when he is still a teenager, he tends to be easily tempted to try something. And it is made easier by having a lot of money from his parents so he can use it.

And I presume the man hid his gambling habit so no one would know what he was doing. Otherwise, he wouldn't have taken the short route to end it all. This is a lesson for all of us always to supervise and pay attention to our children who are starting to grow up so that they do not get involved in things that have a bad impact on them.

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