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September 06, 2023, 05:14:16 PM
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I agree. Even he's already in legal age to gamble, the point is, he's still depending on his parents financially and the money given is meant for his studies and not for leisure.

Thus, it's normal for parents to be worried if they became aware that their son is into gambling. Therefore, an advice of looking for a side job is better rather than relying on his mother's given allowance. This way, the son can have a budget if he wants to entertain himself through gambling.

When I reached the age of majority, I could provide for myself, in which case you begin to look at money with a completely different responsibility. Of course, I tried different strategies in gambling at this time, because I was looking for a way to get rich quick, but I did it with extreme caution and worried even about losing small amounts on a loss. So it is possible that when a teenager starts earning money on his own, then his responsibility in gambling will be higher.

Yes, when you reach adulthood, you will have the opportunity to look for and get a job and like you said, you will be able to support yourself, albeit not fully, but at least you won't be so dependent on your mother. You say that you're looking for ways to get rich from gambling? I honestly don't believe in this at all, the principle is that gambling was invented just for fun friends and nothing more than that, so don't go too far looking for winnings there, especially if your goal is to get rich quick. Okay, I understand that you'll be using your own money here and won't be using your parents' dependent money, but still we should have a healthier view of gambling.

Lastly, I honestly don't think there's any strategy that can increase the odds of winning, that's just nonsense, and if that were true it would mean a lot of people getting rich but the fact is you probably also know that the rich get poor and the poor get poorer, that's gambling. So the bottom line is don't expect anything from gambling except fun, because it's purely about luck.
While gambling is mostly luck, I think games like Poker and Blackjack require talent and strategy. I've discovered that odds, game theory, and behavioral psychology can help, but not much. Even with ability and strategy, the odds are usually against one. I agree: bet just what you can afford to lose and see gambling as entertainment, not a source of money. I admire your care about gambling health.

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September 06, 2023, 06:02:49 PM
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Well, that's another way to see it, and I think that you are right and your case repeats in many cases when teenagers have to face the real world when they reach the majority. Unfortunately, not all of them will be as responsible as you were or we may think, and for the parents who suffer something like that it has to be a difficult situation to handle. Because their son is free to do what he wants, and some of them will do the wrong thing. That's why education at a young age is the best prevention.

Most likely students are getting their allowance from their parents and if that was the case, then they are not allowed to use the money that is entrusted to them because it's not really appropriate for children to waste their money just because they are getting it freely from their parents. They don't understand how hard was it to earn such an amount of money and they are just wasting it overnight and in the morning they ask for more. That's why they shouldn't be allowed teenagers to play and they should be strict with it.

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September 06, 2023, 06:21:55 PM
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I agree. Even he's already in legal age to gamble, the point is, he's still depending on his parents financially and the money given is meant for his studies and not for leisure.

Thus, it's normal for parents to be worried if they became aware that their son is into gambling. Therefore, an advice of looking for a side job is better rather than relying on his mother's given allowance. This way, the son can have a budget if he wants to entertain himself through gambling.

When I reached the age of majority, I could provide for myself, in which case you begin to look at money with a completely different responsibility. Of course, I tried different strategies in gambling at this time, because I was looking for a way to get rich quick, but I did it with extreme caution and worried even about losing small amounts on a loss. So it is possible that when a teenager starts earning money on his own, then his responsibility in gambling will be higher.

Yes, when you reach adulthood, you will have the opportunity to look for and get a job and like you said, you will be able to support yourself, albeit not fully, but at least you won't be so dependent on your mother. You say that you're looking for ways to get rich from gambling? I honestly don't believe in this at all, the principle is that gambling was invented just for fun friends and nothing more than that, so don't go too far looking for winnings there, especially if your goal is to get rich quick. Okay, I understand that you'll be using your own money here and won't be using your parents' dependent money, but still we should have a healthier view of gambling.

Lastly, I honestly don't think there's any strategy that can increase the odds of winning, that's just nonsense, and if that were true it would mean a lot of people getting rich but the fact is you probably also know that the rich get poor and the poor get poorer, that's gambling. So the bottom line is don't expect anything from gambling except fun, because it's purely about luck.
While gambling is mostly luck, I think games like Poker and Blackjack require talent and strategy. I've discovered that odds, game theory, and behavioral psychology can help, but not much. Even with ability and strategy, the odds are usually against one. I agree: bet just what you can afford to lose and see gambling as entertainment, not a source of money. I admire your care about gambling health.
A must thing to be done specially if you are really that dealing with gambling, it isnt really just that something that could bring out sure profits or winning but rather mind off about on the entertainment and enjoyment

that it gives on which it would really be just that normal that you would really be winning but majority of the time you would be losing up money specially if you are really that dealing against with the house.
Its true that once you do make yourself that get involved with poker or blackjack which it does really needing up that skills and experience the it is really that something a part of gambling which you would really be making use of your experience for your upperhand but since everything could really be still that random specially on pulling those cards then luck would really be still a huge or main factor.

Basing up on the condition or situation based up on op then it would really be just that simple on which as a parent and seeing his son/children does have that kind of gambling addiction and tends to deny
on being that addicted one but spending that much then it would really be that just right to lessen up his allowance and speaks about the main reason which it might help for him to
realize on the wrong thing that hes been doing.

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September 06, 2023, 06:25:58 PM
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Anyone who started gambling is like someone who started smoking at the main it will be enjoyable but as time goes you started seeing the effects (the bad side of gambling) but when trying to stop it will creates more harm to him because as then he might gotten routed in the system.That's why we must not even allowed our children to start practicing gambling, because whatever makes them to step in could results to another dangerous harm.


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September 06, 2023, 06:29:13 PM
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Gambling is like an addiction that once you get addicted you can never quit so people who like to gamble daily don't worry about capital. Moreover, gambling is more rewarding for those who have huge amounts of money. You probably know that gambling is a game where you can suddenly become rich and then suddenly become poor. Many poor people sell their possessions to raise money for gambling and also steal. However you can gamble if you don't have money crisis.

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September 06, 2023, 07:09:36 PM
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Most likely students are getting their allowance from their parents and if that was the case, then they are not allowed to use the money that is entrusted to them because it's not really appropriate for children to waste their money just because they are getting it freely from their parents. They don't understand how hard was it to earn such an amount of money and they are just wasting it overnight and in the morning they ask for more. That's why they shouldn't be allowed teenagers to play and they should be strict with it.

In the OP's story, this teenager is gambling with his savings. plus, the weekly money he gets from his family. In fact, this teenager is only 18+ and doesn't understand many things about life. even at his age, gambling was legalized. however, ideally he would be better off doing other activities. In the end, this teenager relied on the weekly money he received, with the alibi that he had savings.

I don't want to judge someone by their gambling, but at an age that is still very vulnerable and unstable, the side effects will be very bad for their development. At this age, it will be difficult for us to know whether this boy is truly responsible with his gambling. let alone those who are still teenagers, we as adults have quite a hard time dealing with issues of responsibility. in particular, those dealing with gambling. which in the end, as you said. this teenager has the potential to squander the money he gets from his weekly allotment. they have the potential to spend money in one night on gambling, at a very young age, self-control, understanding and responsibility, unlike what mature men understand. So, in OP's story, it's only natural that parents feel worried about their children.

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September 06, 2023, 09:59:17 PM
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Gambling should be considered as nothing but an entertainment.Your nephew is at primary level of gambling, so how can you consider him as responsible gambler cause he didn’t stole money doesn’t mean he won't do it in future. Gambling is like a drug, teen gamblers often done unusually activities while they are out of money. So advice him, only spend some percent for gambling from his saving and play for entertainment only. Gambling for financial dependents is only suit for professionals only. it is better for a normal Gambler to have other income source and enjoy gambling with extra saving

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September 06, 2023, 11:06:15 PM
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Gambling should be considered as nothing but an entertainment.Your nephew is at primary level of gambling, so how can you consider him as responsible gambler cause he didn’t stole money doesn’t mean he won't do it in future. Gambling is like a drug, teen gamblers often done unusually activities while they are out of money. So advice him, only spend some percent for gambling from his saving and play for entertainment only. Gambling for financial dependents is only suit for professionals only. it is better for a normal Gambler to have other income source and enjoy gambling with extra saving

Everything in moderation is actually okay. I wouldn't judge someone that early if they know how to control themselves since they still have lots of time ahead of them to prove themselves. People are too quick to jump the gun when somebody is doing something that is associated closely to wrongdoings. Give it time and maybe his nephew would grow out of it, like a lot of people I knew personally who tried gambling and eventually got tired of it because they realize they lose a lot money.

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September 06, 2023, 11:46:39 PM
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If he really gambles properly and use his own money, he has the right to gamble. He is already 18 year old, he fulfills the minimum age on the country. But if he stole the money of his parents to gamble, he must stop it immediately. It can't be allowed, he probably try to stole the money more and more. Especially since he is unemployed, has no job. In the future, he won't only stole the money of his family members, he will try to stole the money of other people.

In this case, the problem isn't about the gambling, but how he got the money to gamble. That's why a gambler must be mature person, mature person mostly has a job to get money. When someone still can't live independently, he shouldn't force himself to gamble. It may cause problems if unemployed person tries to gamble but he has no money. He may feel to stole money or do other crimes.


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September 06, 2023, 11:50:40 PM
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Gambling should be considered as nothing but an entertainment.Your nephew is at primary level of gambling, so how can you consider him as responsible gambler cause he didn’t stole money doesn’t mean he won't do it in future. Gambling is like a drug, teen gamblers often done unusually activities while they are out of money. So advice him, only spend some percent for gambling from his saving and play for entertainment only. Gambling for financial dependents is only suit for professionals only. it is better for a normal Gambler to have other income source and enjoy gambling with extra saving

Everything in moderation is actually okay. I wouldn't judge someone that early if they know how to control themselves since they still have lots of time ahead of them to prove themselves. People are too quick to jump the gun when somebody is doing something that is associated closely to wrongdoings. Give it time and maybe his nephew would grow out of it, like a lot of people I knew personally who tried gambling and eventually got tired of it because they realize they lose a lot money.
Yes, it is too early to judge. However the surrounding and the family have got their responsibility to give the good and bad about gambling. Further it is going to be his choice to find the right path. There are people who doesn't disturb others and have their own space and doesn't use beyond their limits. This could've happened after some hard experience losing big. To avoid such loss people keep on giving advice and suggestions which none accept and agree before experienced.

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In reality I have seen and heard of many of this stories and in Africa parents and elderly ones see gambling as a taboo, it is a thing of forbidden to them. But for the younger ones, if it is for their pleasure and leisure time. Since her son your nephew is not stealing from her and he is not disturbing her for money to gamble and he uses his own hard earned money, then she should allow the young man to have his fun with games. She doesn't know where the son will be blessed either from the gambling or not.

Some children steal from their parents to go and gamble and that is the experienced the mother got from other family to caution her son but all children are not the same.there are some children are very much discipline to themselves. The child age is more than the to gamble and he can control his instinct so let her allow him to be.









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September 07, 2023, 06:23:09 AM
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In reality I have seen and heard of many of this stories and in Africa parents and elderly ones see gambling as a taboo, it is a thing of forbidden to them. But for the younger ones, if it is for their pleasure and leisure time. Since her son your nephew is not stealing from her and he is not disturbing her for money to gamble and he uses his own hard earned money, then she should allow the young man to have his fun with games. She doesn't know where the son will be blessed either from the gambling or not.

Some children steal from their parents to go and gamble and that is the experienced the mother got from other family to caution her son but all children are not the same.there are some children are very much discipline to themselves. The child age is more than the to gamble and he can control his instinct so let her allow him to be.
Whenever gambling is mentioned, I think the right people that should come to our minds are grown adults who knows the negative and and positive effects of gambling and not anyone who feels it's okay to gamble since there's money at their disposal. Gambling isn't supposed to be practiced by financial dependents because it'll ruin their financial life in the future.
To be financially dependent on someone simply means that the said person doesn't have a source of income rather is depending on someone else to survive. So if a dependent is gambling it simply means he's using the money that was given to him for a particular purpose to gamble and that shouldn't be encouraged in any way.

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September 07, 2023, 06:33:17 AM
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Yes, when you reach adulthood, you will have the opportunity to look for and get a job and like you said, you will be able to support yourself, albeit not fully, but at least you won't be so dependent on your mother. You say that you're looking for ways to get rich from gambling? I honestly don't believe in this at all, the principle is that gambling was invented just for fun friends and nothing more than that, so don't go too far looking for winnings there, especially if your goal is to get rich quick. Okay, I understand that you'll be using your own money here and won't be using your parents' dependent money, but still we should have a healthier view of gambling.

Lastly, I honestly don't think there's any strategy that can increase the odds of winning, that's just nonsense, and if that were true it would mean a lot of people getting rich but the fact is you probably also know that the rich get poor and the poor get poorer, that's gambling. So the bottom line is don't expect anything from gambling except fun, because it's purely about luck.

I had already passed this stage of my life, I meant that when I reached the age of majority, I could already provide for myself and bet with my own money, and since I earned them myself, I valued them more, because I worked hard and knew their price.

Of course, after some time, I realized that I can’t earn a lot on gambling and I’m unlikely to be able to, or rather, I sometimes managed to earn something, but at work I earned much more, so I didn’t have questions about where I would earn money, but gambling remained fun for me.

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September 07, 2023, 06:36:41 AM
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In reality I have seen and heard of many of this stories and in Africa parents and elderly ones see gambling as a taboo, it is a thing of forbidden to them. But for the younger ones, if it is for their pleasure and leisure time. Since her son your nephew is not stealing from her and he is not disturbing her for money to gamble and he uses his own hard earned money, then she should allow the young man to have his fun with games. She doesn't know where the son will be blessed either from the gambling or not.

Some children steal from their parents to go and gamble and that is the experienced the mother got from other family to caution her son but all children are not the same.there are some children are very much discipline to themselves. The child age is more than the to gamble and he can control his instinct so let her allow him to be.
I will have to disagree with you, the fact that the son is not asking the mother money to gamble, and is also not stealing from her is not enough reason to allow the boy continue gambling.

The fact that the boy is still a student studying is more than enough reason for the mother to ask her son to stop gambling, I am a father myself and I know what I am talking about , gambling is a total distraction when it comes to studies, just imagine the times the boy will spend analysing games to bet on, whereas he should have spent that time reading his books, none of my child will be in my house and go into gambling as a student, except he or she is out of school, or he or she is doing it secret without my knowledge, but then , when ever I find out , that child of mine is in soup .

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September 07, 2023, 06:44:28 AM
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Well, that's another way to see it, and I think that you are right and your case repeats in many cases when teenagers have to face the real world when they reach the majority. Unfortunately, not all of them will be as responsible as you were or we may think, and for the parents who suffer something like that it has to be a difficult situation to handle. Because their son is free to do what he wants, and some of them will do the wrong thing. That's why education at a young age is the best prevention.

Most likely students are getting their allowance from their parents and if that was the case, then they are not allowed to use the money that is entrusted to them because it's not really appropriate for children to waste their money just because they are getting it freely from their parents. They don't understand how hard was it to earn such an amount of money and they are just wasting it overnight and in the morning they ask for more. That's why they shouldn't be allowed teenagers to play and they should be strict with it.

 I just remembered when I was young, like when we wanted something like toys which my mother and grandparent would give us right away. As the years went by, I realized that my mother needed to work overtime just to provide for me, and my grandmother was selling food just to give me what I needed. I've realized that money won't just grow inside your home; you'll need to do hard work and sacrifice things. It is really best to talk to those teenagers about the money or financial aspects so that they will realize it.
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September 07, 2023, 08:57:18 AM
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Most likely students are getting their allowance from their parents and if that was the case, then they are not allowed to use the money that is entrusted to them because it's not really appropriate for children to waste their money just because they are getting it freely from their parents. They don't understand how hard was it to earn such an amount of money and they are just wasting it overnight and in the morning they ask for more. That's why they shouldn't be allowed teenagers to play and they should be strict with it.

 I just remembered when I was young, like when we wanted something like toys which my mother and grandparent would give us right away. As the years went by, I realized that my mother needed to work overtime just to provide for me, and my grandmother was selling food just to give me what I needed. I've realized that money won't just grow inside your home; you'll need to do hard work and sacrifice things. It is really best to talk to those teenagers about the money or financial aspects so that they will realize it.

Yes that's right, almost all children in childhood want the same things that are very fun and our parents always give us what we want because they also want to see us happy, our moms and dads work hard to support all their families, whatever they will do for their children and therefore when we are a little older we should be able to think smarter and more mature to appreciate their struggles in the past.

Therefore, we should not take advantage of the sincerity of our parents, such as using pocket money for gambling, obviously it is a bad act. Honestly I don't understand those who do it, but in my opinion if the child has a good personality and knows how to appreciate then I think something like that will not happen, I mean they will not be able to use their pocket money for gambling. I think whether you're using your own money or your parents' money, it's definitely not a good idea to spend it on gambling, it's better not to do it at all.

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September 07, 2023, 09:18:35 AM
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Of course, after some time, I realized that I can’t earn a lot on gambling and I’m unlikely to be able to, or rather, I sometimes managed to earn something, but at work I earned much more, so I didn’t have questions about where I would earn money, but gambling remained fun for me.
Yes you will not earn money apart from your job, as I also said in this forum that gambling should be fun not a place that can make a lot of money, I think it's good if you have thought consciously seeking wealth in gambling it will only be in vain and waste time, wise and intelligent people only play gambling for fun, nothing more than that, winning is a bonus.

I always think that winning is a bonus in gambling so it's not my target to look for that win, usually every day I work to make money sometimes sometimes I need entertainment and I gamble on weekends for that entertainment using my cellphone and enjoying my leisure time, nothing more , fortunately you have realized it before it gets too deep

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September 07, 2023, 01:13:43 PM
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Most likely students are getting their allowance from their parents and if that was the case, then they are not allowed to use the money that is entrusted to them because it's not really appropriate for children to waste their money just because they are getting it freely from their parents. They don't understand how hard was it to earn such an amount of money and they are just wasting it overnight and in the morning they ask for more. That's why they shouldn't be allowed teenagers to play and they should be strict with it.
I just remembered when I was young, like when we wanted something like toys which my mother and grandparent would give us right away. As the years went by, I realized that my mother needed to work overtime just to provide for me, and my grandmother was selling food just to give me what I needed. I've realized that money won't just grow inside your home; you'll need to do hard work and sacrifice things. It is really best to talk to those teenagers about the money or financial aspects so that they will realize it.
Yes that's right, almost all children in childhood want the same things that are very fun and our parents always give us what we want because they also want to see us happy, our moms and dads work hard to support all their families, whatever they will do for their children and therefore when we are a little older we should be able to think smarter and more mature to appreciate their struggles in the past.

Therefore, we should not take advantage of the sincerity of our parents, such as using pocket money for gambling, obviously it is a bad act. Honestly I don't understand those who do it, but in my opinion if the child has a good personality and knows how to appreciate then I think something like that will not happen, I mean they will not be able to use their pocket money for gambling. I think whether you're using your own money or your parents' money, it's definitely not a good idea to spend it on gambling, it's better not to do it at all.
That's why if we become parents, we must be able to educate our children well and always give them the understanding that if we have money, we must use it properly and not use it for wasteful things. This will also foster discipline in children from an early age so that when they grow up, they can apply it to their future lives. And by educating our children well, they can also live well and rightly so they won't do things that can harm them.

Apart from that, by introducing all the necessary things, we can provide life lessons for them that they can learn from an early age so that they will continue to be embedded in their minds and can be taught to their children in the future. As parents, we will feel happy seeing our children grow well and use their teenage years and adulthood well until they get married and have children so that the teachings we gave them can be passed on to their children.

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September 07, 2023, 09:02:59 PM
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In reality I have seen and heard of many of this stories and in Africa parents and elderly ones see gambling as a taboo, it is a thing of forbidden to them. But for the younger ones, if it is for their pleasure and leisure time. Since her son your nephew is not stealing from her and he is not disturbing her for money to gamble and he uses his own hard earned money, then she should allow the young man to have his fun with games. She doesn't know where the son will be blessed either from the gambling or not.

Some children steal from their parents to go and gamble and that is the experienced the mother got from other family to caution her son but all children are not the same.there are some children are very much discipline to themselves. The child age is more than the to gamble and he can control his instinct so let her allow him to be.
yeah but it's still a cause for concern. Just cause he's not stealing money today doesn't mean that when things go unchecked and the son becomes addicted to gambling. I've seen many a stories of these kids going crazy in gambling and acting upon desperate impulses to get their fix. Some even resort to violence. I say she should let the kid to his own devices and allow him to gamble, but conduct a strict regiment that he'd have to follow if he wants to remain within the house, it's all for the better anyway since at the end of the day, you're making sure that the kid is not getting addicted, and at the same time this instills discipline upon himself without the notion that you're controlling his life or whatever since after all you're still allowing him to gamble.

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September 07, 2023, 10:19:40 PM
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Of course, after some time, I realized that I can’t earn a lot on gambling and I’m unlikely to be able to, or rather, I sometimes managed to earn something, but at work I earned much more, so I didn’t have questions about where I would earn money, but gambling remained fun for me.
Yes you will not earn money apart from your job, as I also said in this forum that gambling should be fun not a place that can make a lot of money, I think it's good if you have thought consciously seeking wealth in gambling it will only be in vain and waste time, wise and intelligent people only play gambling for fun, nothing more than that, winning is a bonus.

I always think that winning is a bonus in gambling so it's not my target to look for that win, usually every day I work to make money sometimes sometimes I need entertainment and I gamble on weekends for that entertainment using my cellphone and enjoying my leisure time, nothing more , fortunately you have realized it before it gets too deep

Making money from gambling entertainment can classify as a bonus, though not all do have that principle but instead more are into
winning money and aiming for that big win.

If you play that way, the chance of losing a lot of money can actually happen to you. There are many incidences where a gambler mistakenly Yolo
everything and lose it all in just some few clicks or some few bets that they take.

remember that there's no guarantee when you are inside gambling activities. Most  depends on luck and good control of your bankroll.
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