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September 11, 2023, 01:10:14 AM
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Therefore, we should not take advantage of the sincerity of our parents, such as using pocket money for gambling, obviously it is a bad act. Honestly I don't understand those who do it, but in my opinion if the child has a good personality and knows how to appreciate then I think something like that will not happen, I mean they will not be able to use their pocket money for gambling. I think whether you're using your own money or your parents' money, it's definitely not a good idea to spend it on gambling, it's better not to do it at all.

Teenage age is a really complicated time of the young persons. They want to have a feel of so many things around them. Just like toddlers that you try to prevent from crawling to dangerous environment but they will keep going back there. So this is synonymous to the actions of a young person and this is why they need to be properly guided so that they won't be mislead .

Parents need to teach their children on the good, the bad and their effects but we also know that the children learn faster from what they see their parents doing so the first place of control is the parents not to exibit character not worthy to be emulate. If a parent is a gambler of course the child could likely be emulating that especially if the parent is unconsciously lose about that by not taking precautions of hiding it from the child.
Yes, that's right, adolescence is a time when they are still looking for their identity, even though they are still vulnerable to negative things without the help of parental supervision, this is very dangerous for teenagers in the future.
Yes, good and correct educational guidance from parents to their teenage children is very important because it is from parents that they learn and become role models for their behavior. If there are some parents who have been involved in gambling, it is better to just keep quiet and not tell about it to their children or another step is to provide an understanding that gambling will indeed have a bad impact on someone, for example we will lose all our money and some will be ostracized from beloved family due to the consequences of gambling.

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September 11, 2023, 05:34:43 AM
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If parents find out that their child has started gambling, they must provide more understanding and a different approach. Their children must be guided to stop gambling before it is too late and their parents cannot save their lives.
True. There's a money involved in gambling so even our kid says they're just playing for fun, we can't help but to worry. It's just right to explain and if possible make them stop playing since gambling is not suited for students who are still depending on their parents.
If our child says he is only playing for fun, we must immediately warn him and invite him to talk to find out why they are gambling. They can have fun doing other things with their friends instead of gambling. We are only worried if they lose control of themselves when gambling, which will make them waste their money. Teenagers like that are prone to losing self-control, which can have a bad impact on them.

With the approach parents take, they can slowly make their children aware that what they do is not good for their mental health. The presence of his parents in guiding him out of gambling can help him to leave gambling and never gamble again.
For now, he need to stop his gambling activity and focus on his studies. But it doesn't mean he can't gamble in the future anymore. Because once he's settled, earning a stable income and already know what's right or wrong, he can decide for himself. In time, he will understand his mother if he already have a family and became a parent.
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We are the ones who must be able to persuade him to stop his gambling activities before it is too late. And we also have to give them an understanding of what impact playing gambling, even losing self-control, has on them and what could happen in the future. And even though he is established and knows what is right or wrong, we still need to monitor him because he is our child and we don't want to see our child get into trouble. Don't let his gambling habit give him problems when he has a family and becomes a parent later. That's why we as parents must be able to look after him well and provide good understanding.

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September 11, 2023, 05:49:07 AM
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Yes, good and correct educational guidance from parents to their teenage children is very important because it is from parents that they learn and become role models for their behavior. If there are some parents who have been involved in gambling, it is better to just keep quiet and not tell about it to their children or another step is to provide an understanding that gambling will indeed have a bad impact on someone, for example we will lose all our money and some will be ostracized from beloved family due to the consequences of gambling.

That's true, because adolescence is a vulnerable period and if there are bad things that parents show their children during this period, it might become something that will lead them into trouble in the future. For example, gambling, if parents gamble quite often and they show that to their children, it is very likely that the children will imitate and think that gambling at their age is not a problem and the chances that this child will become addicted will probably be even greater.
That's why it's important to set a good example for children and it's best to give them good education about things like gambling, drugs, etc., to prevent them from getting caught up in things like this.

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September 11, 2023, 10:28:30 AM
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It is definitely a problem when a teenager is gambling with money that is not even theirs, however most of the time this is just part of what being a teenager is about, as when we were that age we did all kind of crazy things that when we think about it the first thing that comes to our minds is what were we thinking? However an adult that is also in that situation is a completely different thing, as they are immersed in a very unhealthy dynamic with their family by not earning their own money at that age.
That's exactly the point, so IMO, no blame to cast here. As a teenager, you can get some pocket money from your parents, or you could even have some rich uncles and aunts that can give you anything you want as long as you just ask them for money, they can give you. Yeah, it is quite understood that teens do some sort of crazy stuff and cannot really take the blame for all. As a teen, you can decide to do anything with the pocket money you receive, whether you use it to buy some snacks, play video games, or gamble. The reason is that you are not yet old enough to be dependent on yourself or start making your own money. But for an adult, it does not make any sense to still be fully dependent while the person is not disabled. Perhaps the person is physically and mentally fit but just too lazy to work, make money, and use their money to do whatever they please.
Basically, the word "dependent" makes it sound like you are incapable of making money, but there are other ways too. Like for example your father may have 100 houses that he rents out, or he owns a huge factor that makes millions of dollars, that makes you not needing to work, if you have millions of dollars worth of income, and your father gives you 100-200k a month, why would you work? If you do not want to, then you do not have to and that is totally understandable without a doubt.

However, at the very same time, we are talking about a situation that would be different if parents are forcing themselves if they are trying to look after you, that's not what I mean. In the end, I agree that teenagers makes mistakes, that's understandable.
@tygeade, you just said the truth of it all. Nowadays, some people don't want to work, but they want to receive a daily, weekly or even monthly salary, and this is not a helping hand at all, because of some of the things that they can do to help themselves, some will not do it, but depending on their family property and it is a very bad idea, there are some youths that it planing to be more better and richer than their father (family as a whole) and if you see those set if people they are trying their possible best to make sure that they be of a good help in their family and even in the society as well, some parents after looking out for their children and when the children have gotten to an age they will just stop looking after them in terms of financial assistance but the parents will always give the children a good advise so they will not make wrong decisions, and the child will go and make hes own money and not to depend on people things, some of this children end up making their own money and good names in the society.

However, most children that their parents have given money end up using it to gamble and not to save or making even small investments, just because they are not working to get the money.

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September 11, 2023, 11:42:35 AM
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I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?

Although he now appears to be taking responsibility for his gambling activities, there is no guarantee he will be able to do so in the future. As long as he hasn't worked then it's something dangerous. If he becomes a gambling addict, he will most likely steal money to gamble. I think it's better to prevent him from gambling until he can get his own money/job.

I think the mother knows what is best for her child, so for now I support what the mother is doing, it would be good for the child to obey her, at least until he finishes school and gets his own job.

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September 11, 2023, 01:47:19 PM
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I think the mother knows what is best for her child, so for now I support what the mother is doing, it would be good for the child to obey her, at least until he finishes school and gets his own job.

If the mother does not understand the risks and rewards of gambling, she doesn't know what's best. The fact that she doesn't want her son to gamble means she is afraid of taking risks and doesn't see gambling as a positive activity that could potentially lead to problems in the future. The problem with the older generation is that they stick too much to old beliefs. They don't understand that the world is constantly evolving, things are changing, and innovation is happening. So, I guess there's nothing wrong with a person of the right age gambling, as long as they do it responsibly.
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Yes, that's right, adolescence is a time when they are still looking for their identity, even though they are still vulnerable to negative things without the help of parental supervision, this is very dangerous for teenagers in the future.
Yes, good and correct educational guidance from parents to their teenage children is very important because it is from parents that they learn and become role models for their behavior. If there are some parents who have been involved in gambling, it is better to just keep quiet and not tell about it to their children or another step is to provide an understanding that gambling will indeed have a bad impact on someone, for example we will lose all our money and some will be ostracized from beloved family due to the consequences of gambling.
Isn't it a little strange that we try to hide our mistakes? It's natural to try to protect kids from your mistakes, but talking about them can be a good way to learn from them

About parents who have gambled in the past: Aren't both good and bad situations a powerful way to learn? Instead of putting a veil over the dice and cards, it might be more effective to look into the consequences. Still, gambling isn't just about losing money. It's about broken relationships, different goals, and a different path in life. Providing a clear plan with a list of potential problems could be the lighthouse that young people need

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Isn't it a little strange that we try to hide our mistakes? It's natural to try to protect kids from your mistakes, but talking about them can be a good way to learn from them

About parents who have gambled in the past: Aren't both good and bad situations a powerful way to learn? Instead of putting a veil over the dice and cards, it might be more effective to look into the consequences. Still, gambling isn't just about losing money. It's about broken relationships, different goals, and a different path in life. Providing a clear plan with a list of potential problems could be the lighthouse that young people need
Everyone has their own opinion when it comes to hiding their gambling, if you think it's the right thing to tell our children about the gambling we did when we were teenagers, I don't blame you for that. However, I think teenagers are very vulnerable to bad things, they are still looking for something that makes them comfortable and cannot control their emotions and control themselves. If teenagers know what their parents do with gambling, for example, they will most likely be curious and want to learn about gambling, so this is what parents fear when their teenage children start to follow in their parents' footsteps in gambling. .

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I think the mother knows what is best for her child, so for now I support what the mother is doing, it would be good for the child to obey her, at least until he finishes school and gets his own job.

If the mother does not understand the risks and rewards of gambling, she doesn't know what's best. The fact that she doesn't want her son to gamble means she is afraid of taking risks and doesn't see gambling as a positive activity that could potentially lead to problems in the future. The problem with the older generation is that they stick too much to old beliefs. They don't understand that the world is constantly evolving, things are changing, and innovation is happening. So, I guess there's nothing wrong with a person of the right age gambling, as long as they do it responsibly.

Do you think gambling activities are a positive thing for unemployed students? I don't see any negative or positive points of view, I think gambling is a choice. However, gambling has an addictive effect, so if gambling activities are carried out by people who do not work, it will be quite dangerous. I think for now it's best for the kid to study and maybe take lessons, maybe his mother wants him to do that. Gambling could be done later, when he could make money

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September 11, 2023, 11:53:21 PM
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Do you think gambling activities are a positive thing for unemployed students? I don't see any negative or positive points of view, I think gambling is a choice.
IMHO, that's a negative thing. First, they're still students although I have gambled when I was still a student but never came up with such huge amount but that won't change the fact that I did during schooling days. Since I was quite good enough in controlling myself, I did came up to this type of problem. Whilst in today's generation, there have been problematic gamblers and much surprising that they're still students.

However, gambling has an addictive effect, so if gambling activities are carried out by people who do not work, it will be quite dangerous. I think for now it's best for the kid to study and maybe take lessons, maybe his mother wants him to do that. Gambling could be done later, when he could make money
Every parent wishes their children to study very well but the environment that student is living with could have been the problem and has influenced him with gambling. Well, probably not that bad people at all but the practice of gambling and influencing has gone wrong and resulted into the student being problematic gambler without even a job and his own money to support his vice.

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September 12, 2023, 01:07:25 AM
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I think the mother knows what is best for her child, so for now I support what the mother is doing, it would be good for the child to obey her, at least until he finishes school and gets his own job.

If the mother does not understand the risks and rewards of gambling, she doesn't know what's best. The fact that she doesn't want her son to gamble means she is afraid of taking risks and doesn't see gambling as a positive activity that could potentially lead to problems in the future. The problem with the older generation is that they stick too much to old beliefs. They don't understand that the world is constantly evolving, things are changing, and innovation is happening. So, I guess there's nothing wrong with a person of the right age gambling, as long as they do it responsibly.

Do you think gambling activities are a positive thing for unemployed students? I don't see any negative or positive points of view, I think gambling is a choice. However, gambling has an addictive effect, so if gambling activities are carried out by people who do not work, it will be quite dangerous. I think for now it's best for the kid to study and maybe take lessons, maybe his mother wants him to do that. Gambling could be done later, when he could make money

But today,the love for money has made many who are not financially competent go into gambling without thinking of the after math of it.They do not care whether addiction follows it all not,all that matters at that point is that they need to make the money,and they need it by all means.One who has not gambled before,and he is been influenced by friends because I believe most things people start today are based on influence by their friends,thinks that gambling is what one can leave or stop whenever he or she wants,but the reverse is the case in gambling,the more you try to stop,the more you tend to play more because you will always lose and want to recover your money.If there was a way in which one can turn back the hands of time,many people would have quitted gambling for long,but it isn't as easy as thought.

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I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?
Your nephew's mom should be able to have an opened and honest conversation with her son. It should be a heart to heart conversation where the son his sincere about his gambling and the mother is opened about her expectations from him.

Sons always loves and listens to their mother. This is the time for her to be very involved. If she is able to create a space where he can freely talk about anything with her then she has nothing to worry about because right there she has proven to him that he can turn to her for support in case he begins to struggle with gambling.

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September 12, 2023, 05:21:41 AM
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Totally not a welcome development for dependents, irrespective of the age.

Until you are of age to earn a living, consider whatever you get financially as an investment in your life, and as with investments, all investors are expecting a reward for their investments. Consider an investor who committs money to a drain and expects to have it back, not even the invested sum is guaranteed, needless to consider a profit on that investment.

Gambling, although may be favorable to some, but still remains a channel through which people loose funds on an average, it should not be encouraged and mostly by people who are yet to know the pains it takes to earn a living.

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I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?
Your nephew's mom should be able to have an opened and honest conversation with her son. It should be a heart to heart conversation where the son his sincere about his gambling and the mother is opened about her expectations from him.

Sons always loves and listens to their mother. This is the time for her to be very involved. If she is able to create a space where he can freely talk about anything with her then she has nothing to worry about because right there she has proven to him that he can turn to her for support in case he begins to struggle with gambling.
When a problem like this emerges up it is important to not take an accusatory tone as if the parent does this then the kid is not going to want to share their problems related to this topic ever again, and this is dangerous, as we are talking about a young person which is just taking their first steps on the world and they are bound to make a lot of mistakes, and while there are many mistakes that are harmless, there are others which can have heavy consequences down the line and we need to avoid them as much as possible.
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I think the mother knows what is best for her child, so for now I support what the mother is doing, it would be good for the child to obey her, at least until he finishes school and gets his own job.

If the mother does not understand the risks and rewards of gambling, she doesn't know what's best. The fact that she doesn't want her son to gamble means she is afraid of taking risks and doesn't see gambling as a positive activity that could potentially lead to problems in the future. The problem with the older generation is that they stick too much to old beliefs. They don't understand that the world is constantly evolving, things are changing, and innovation is happening. So, I guess there's nothing wrong with a person of the right age gambling, as long as they do it responsibly.

Do you think gambling activities are a positive thing for unemployed students? I don't see any negative or positive points of view, I think gambling is a choice. However, gambling has an addictive effect, so if gambling activities are carried out by people who do not work, it will be quite dangerous. I think for now it's best for the kid to study and maybe take lessons, maybe his mother wants him to do that. Gambling could be done later, when he could make money

But today,the love for money has made many who are not financially competent go into gambling without thinking of the after math of it.They do not care whether addiction follows it all not,all that matters at that point is that they need to make the money,and they need it by all means.One who has not gambled before,and he is been influenced by friends because I believe most things people start today are based on influence by their friends,thinks that gambling is what one can leave or stop whenever he or she wants,but the reverse is the case in gambling,the more you try to stop,the more you tend to play more because you will always lose and want to recover your money.If there was a way in which one can turn back the hands of time,many people would have quitted gambling for long,but it isn't as easy as thought.
Just let them be on having the taste of that reality on which this is something that would really be making them realize that it was never been that possible on making constant profits or winning in gambling.
There are really people who are really that hard headed on which they wont really be tending to hear out someones advices even if their own parents or loved on on which it would really be that pretty useless on doing so.
This is why it would really be just that self realizations or learnings would really be the only key for them to be able to completely stop and find out the real thing about gambling. This isnt something that would really be giving out that income that you are expecting or making yourself rich with it. If you do play for the sake of entertainment then its fine but on the time that you do play for the sake of making profits or source of money
then it would really be an another story. There are really people who do have that kind of level of understanding and realizations on things which there are ones who could not and this is where these type of people
do really falls down into those conditions or situations on which they do really find themselves to be on a tough situation on the time that they experience those real things that could happen in dealing with
too much gambling.

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September 12, 2023, 07:22:36 PM
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A family member reported to me that her eighteen years old son has started gambling. She is not worried that he is gaming but her problem is that he is a student that solely depends on her for everything he needs. Her fear is also that her son might start stealing from her if he has no access to the money he needs to gamble. My relative has even started suspecting that some money she feels was misplaced might have been stolen by her son.

I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?

I don't understand this sort of logic, if someone has very little money and they gamble - it quickly disappears. If he has money on a Friday and is somehow draw to spend it all on gambling, then it'll probably be gone by Friday night. After that point, where is he getting money from if he has no one source of income? If she is concerned that he is getting into this sort of trouble with gambling, then she should stop giving him cash and tell him to get a job if he wants to waste his money on that, sometimes tough love is the only way to teach people. If he wants to start growing into a responsible adult, now is the time he should be thinking about getting a job if he is not in any further education.

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September 12, 2023, 07:27:10 PM
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I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?
Your nephew's mom should be able to have an opened and honest conversation with her son. It should be a heart to heart conversation where the son his sincere about his gambling and the mother is opened about her expectations from him.

Sons always loves and listens to their mother. This is the time for her to be very involved. If she is able to create a space where he can freely talk about anything with her then she has nothing to worry about because right there she has proven to him that he can turn to her for support in case he begins to struggle with gambling.
When a problem like this emerges up it is important to not take an accusatory tone as if the parent does this then the kid is not going to want to share their problems related to this topic ever again, and this is dangerous, as we are talking about a young person which is just taking their first steps on the world and they are bound to make a lot of mistakes, and while there are many mistakes that are harmless, there are others which can have heavy consequences down the line and we need to avoid them as much as possible.
Being polite is one of the ways good decisions can be accepted and we don't even have to use derogatory words that could make the person you feel less of themselves and 8f that kind of scene happens again, the person is not going to open up on there problem ever again. Financial dependent on ourselves is something we need to work on so that the challenges of life is not going to affect us in diverse ways. Gambling is one of the ways people make money and these had been a easier path for people to make bets and become profitable to pay there bills and live a good lifestyle.

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September 12, 2023, 10:11:35 PM
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Gambling, although may be favorable to some, but still remains a channel through which people loose funds on an average, it should not be encouraged and mostly by people who are yet to know the pains it takes to earn a living.

Any underaged person must stay away from gambling, also anyone who is not ready to work and earn his money to use it for gambling or other things should also keep off the gambling zone, why i said all these is because we have to help those children growing up be on the right path to being a successful person in life and they must start by learning creative things, changing of mental reasonings, children or any person but earning already should not be found gambling because the first question to ask is where they find money used in gambling.



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September 12, 2023, 10:45:06 PM
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That's true, because adolescence is a vulnerable period and if there are bad things that parents show their children during this period, it might become something that will lead them into trouble in the future. For example, gambling, if parents gamble quite often and they show that to their children, it is very likely that the children will imitate and think that gambling at their age is not a problem and the chances that this child will become addicted will probably be even greater.
That's why it's important to set a good example for children and it's best to give them good education about things like gambling, drugs, etc., to prevent them from getting caught up in things like this.

I happened to witness such behaviors in our neighborhood back then where my friend's parents are gamblers though they only bet a small amount of money, they are constantly doing it almost every day, and going to their place eventually lead you to fall into their habits. I remember when I got there, I found myself playing with them and their parent with other people who had been raised that way. The environment is really important when raising your children because there is only a small probability that your children do not fall into the same hobbies as the people around them.

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September 13, 2023, 04:08:39 AM
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I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?
Your nephew's mom should be able to have an opened and honest conversation with her son. It should be a heart to heart conversation where the son his sincere about his gambling and the mother is opened about her expectations from him.

Sons always loves and listens to their mother. This is the time for her to be very involved. If she is able to create a space where he can freely talk about anything with her then she has nothing to worry about because right there she has proven to him that he can turn to her for support in case he begins to struggle with gambling.
It is true that mothers are more close to their sons but when it comes to habitual matters like games and gambling it becomes different. My sons rarely listen to their mother when she says they should stop playing with their cellphones late at night. I think the era of young people today is very different than my era and that should be considered in how we will have a discussion with our sons.
I like that the nephew is saving money for his own habit and I think what should be done is to make him calculate how much he is losing and how much he could've saved if only he didn't risk it to gambling. That way he will have an idea about the financial things and maybe tell him what he could've bought with all that money if only he had not spent it on gambling.
That kind of thinking actually opened my eyes to not taking high-risk gamble but that is only for zero returns like gambling, it's different when it comes to investing.

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