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September 13, 2023, 06:12:32 PM
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Pakistan were favorites early on, and they performed well in the first few matches. But now, it looks as if they have run out of steam. Their pace attack was feared by everyone, but with injuries to Naseem Shah and Haris Rauf, it is not as threatening as it was before. But that doesn't mean that Sri Lanka are the overwhelming favorites. As we saw yesterday, they wasted a very good chance to defeat India. The target was very small (214), but the Indian spinners (especially Kuldeep Yadav and Ravindra Jadeja) made life really difficult for the Lankan batsmen.
Absolutely Right at Start of Asia Cup and first win against Nepal Pakistan is favourite to win this Asia cup but after A big defeat against India by 228 runs India is favourite to win this Asia Cup. No doubt Pakistan has best pace attack in the world but after two main fast bowlers injured  Naseem Shah ruled out of Asia Cup 2023 and Haris Rouf ruled out match against Sirlinka. I think Zaman Khan will replaces Naseem Shah in playing 11 against Sirlinka. The tomorrow match between Sirlanka and Pakistan is Semi final winner team will qualify for Final and face India in Final of Asia Cup.

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September 13, 2023, 08:57:48 PM
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Chahal is not in the WC squad anyway. All this monkey balancing (in a good way) is going on because of batting depth and also 3 front-line seamers don't make sense in the Indian conditions. 

Bumrah+Siraj(Shami based on form)+ 2 seam allrounder Hardik +Thakur + 1 spin all rounder Jadeja + Kuldeep combination when pitch is fast, like Wankede or Dharamshala.

Leave Thakur out and add spin allrounder Axar into the playing XI when a pitch is spin friendly (Axar+Jadeja+Kuldeep+Hardik+ 2 seamers). We will witness the same pattern in WC.

This combination sounds good. But then, Bumrah needs to be fit. In case Bumrah gets injured, then the equilibrium will get disrupted. I guess in that case the seam combination would be Siraj+Shami+Hardik+Thakur. Anywaym the team balance looks good, with the presence of so many allrounders. Seam-bowling allrounders were always a rarity in Indian cricket, but now there are two of them - Hardik and Shardul. And then Venkatesh Iyer is waiting in the sidelines. For spin-bowling allrounders there was never any scarcity.
We are $ucked if Bumrah faces another injury lol. His presence in the team gives a big boost to bowling.

Yeah, the combination looks okay for now because they ticked all the boxes in the last 2 matches, it can also change overnight (I hope not). We still have 5 (3 with Aus) matches before the WC so let's see and hope for the best. 


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September 14, 2023, 03:05:18 AM
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We are $ucked if Bumrah faces another injury lol. His presence in the team gives a big boost to bowling.

Yeah, the combination looks okay for now because they ticked all the boxes in the last 2 matches, it can also change overnight (I hope not). We still have 5 (3 with Aus) matches before the WC so let's see and hope for the best. 

I have a different opinion on this. I would rather say that a potential injury to Bumrah will not be much damaging for India's prospects. Bumrah can be replaced with Shami. He may not be as quick as Bumrah, but he is also a wicket taker. And if multiple bowlers get injured, then there is a good backup strength in the form of Arshdeep Singh, Mukesh Kumar and Avesh Khan. Right now, India should not be bothered about some of their players getting injured and becoming unavailable to play. The team balance is looking really good at this point.

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September 14, 2023, 04:40:30 AM
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Sri Lanka Vs Pakistan
The last match of Super Four, Pakistan vs Sri Lanka, is going to be the most interesting game in this match. Today's match is going to be exciting for Sri Lanka but very sad for Pakistan as they might have to exit the Asia Cup today. Today's match though Pakistan is most likely to win but still Pakistan will not go to the final, to go to the final they must beat Sri Lanka by a huge margin which is never possible. If Pakistan somehow wins today's match, they will be knocked out of Asia Cup and Sri Lanka will go to the final, and Pakistan will have to beat Sri Lanka by a huge margin to make it to the final. Today will be a great fight between the two teams. If Pakistan can bat well in today's match, then it is possible to beat Sri Lanka, but there will probably not be many in the final. In the match Pakistan's NNR is -1.892 and on the other hand Sri Lanka's -0.200 so if Pakistan win against Sri Lanka today then they will have to beat Sri Lanka by a huge margin to make it to the final, but I don't think it will be possible.

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September 14, 2023, 04:44:52 AM
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Pakistan VS Srilanka

One from these two will qualify for the final match against India. The match will be played in Premadasa Stadium. Spinners again will play a crucial roles in today's match. The team that will win the toss today would be batting first. As early in the day this pitch does help the batters and later on it becomes spin friendly.

Dunith Wellalage and Shadab Khan are the players to look forward today. Both are good spinners and have the ability to bat. I am still not aware whether Naseem Shah will be playing today. If not then it would be another blow to the Pakistani bowling attack. Hoping to see another thrilling match today.

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Dunith Wellalage and Shadab Khan are the players to look forward today. Both are good spinners and have the ability to bat. I am still not aware whether Naseem Shah will be playing today. If not then it would be another blow to the Pakistani bowling attack. Hoping to see another thrilling match today.

I can understand what you are saying about Wellalage, but Shadab Khan? He is the primary reason why Pakistan lost to India. Pakistani spinners were completely out of sorts and the Indian batsmen treated them like club bowlers. I don't understand why it is so hard for Pakistan to find quality spinners from their domestic setup. This is the same country that once produced legendary spinners like Saqlain Mushtaq, Mushtaq Ahmed and Danish Kaneria. Even Shoaib Malik and Yasir Shah were good, but now they have ordinary spinners like Shadab Khan. 

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The last match of Super Four, Pakistan vs Sri Lanka, is going to be the most interesting game in this match. Today's match is going to be exciting for Sri Lanka but very sad for Pakistan as they might have to exit the Asia Cup today. Today's match though Pakistan is most likely to win but still Pakistan will not go to the final, to go to the final they must beat Sri Lanka by a huge margin which is never possible. If Pakistan somehow wins today's match, they will be knocked out of Asia Cup and Sri Lanka will go to the final, and Pakistan will have to beat Sri Lanka by a huge margin to make it to the final. Today will be a great fight between the two teams. If Pakistan can bat well in today's match, then it is possible to beat Sri Lanka, but there will probably not be many in the final. In the match Pakistan's NNR is -1.892 and on the other hand Sri Lanka's -0.200 so if Pakistan win against Sri Lanka today then they will have to beat Sri Lanka by a huge margin to make it to the final, but I don't think it will be possible.

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I see no need to focus on Nrr in the match today. Because both Sri Lanka and Pakistan teams played 2 matches of Super Four and won 1 each. Both teams have 2 points, the team that wins today will have a total of 4 points. The team that wins the match today will directly play in the final. If Pakistan's Naseem Shah and Haris Rauf are missing in today's match then it will be difficult for Pakistan to win the match. Today's match is a do or die match for both teams. The game will be really interesting and competitive game today.
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Pakistan VS Srilanka
One from these two will qualify for the final match against India. The match will be played in Premadasa Stadium. Spinners again will play a crucial roles in today's match. The team that will win the toss today would be batting first. As early in the day this pitch does help the batters and later on it becomes spin friendly.
It's a really crucial match for both team because victories team will be quiality for next stage and loser will be eliminated, it's really high pressure match for Pakistan because they already has insufficient quality player due to injury which will really impact thier results, but we can hope that paksitan has always dominance over them and recently they won series too on thier home ground with most of thier player were same so we can expect that they will delivered same as our expectations. Let see how Pakistani new player can make difference at such a high pressure game.

I can understand what you are saying about Wellalage, but Shadab Khan? He is the primary reason why Pakistan lost to India. Pakistani spinners were completely out of sorts and the Indian batsmen treated them like club bowlers.
I think you are underestimating a quality all rounder like shadab no doubt he has bad performance against India but you can't ignore his previous best performance for behalf of single match performance, most of the time he took important wickets for Pakistan and show his class and I am sure that he will comback stronger and will shut mouth of all haters, it's true every player has bad time but it has limit and soon it will over and he will again shine like a star
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Pakistan VS Srilanka

One from these two will qualify for the final match against India. The match will be played in Premadasa Stadium. Spinners again will play a crucial roles in today's match. The team that will win the toss today would be batting first. As early in the day this pitch does help the batters and later on it becomes spin friendly.

Dunith Wellalage and Shadab Khan are the players to look forward today. Both are good spinners and have the ability to bat. I am still not aware whether Naseem Shah will be playing today. If not then it would be another blow to the Pakistani bowling attack. Hoping to see another thrilling match today.
Today is a very important match in the Asia Cup where the equation is to win. The winning team will play India in the final. Like we saw in Spain against Sri Lanka, we might see spin-aided wickets against Pakistan. Pakistan are dependent on their fast bowlers but they definitely need quality spinners to win against Sri Lanka. Shadab Khan is a good quality spinner but he is not doing well in this Asia Cup. 

Looking at the spin-assisted wicket, today Pakistan announced an additional spinner in the squad where Mohammad Nawaz got a place in the squad. Along with Shadab Khan and Mohammad Nawaz, Iftikhar Ahmed will certainly help Pakistan's spinners. It is very difficult to bat on the wicket that has been made so we will see low scoring matches today as well.

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Looking at the spin-assisted wicket, today Pakistan announced an additional spinner in the squad where Mohammad Nawaz got a place in the squad. Along with Shadab Khan and Mohammad Nawaz, Iftikhar Ahmed will certainly help Pakistan's spinners. It is very difficult to bat on the wicket that has been made so we will see low scoring matches today as well.

Every cricket player goes through a phase where nothing works in their favour. Shadab Khan is struggling but he is one of the best spin bowler that Pakistan has for now. Do remember he was the guy how was getting hit by Rohit Sharma on the first day of India VS Pakistan match. He came back hard and got his wicket.

Good decision by Pakistan management by adding Mohammad Nawaz to their squad. He has a good amount of experience in ODI and can be a game changer. Iftikhar Ahmed is good batter but not a good spinner. He can be considered as a partime bowler, last match he was struggling against the Indian batting attack.

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September 14, 2023, 09:08:14 AM
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India has already qualified for the Asia Cup final. Today Pakistan and Srilanka will play against each other to qualify for the final against India. The outcome of this game depends a lot in the hands of spinners. The betting odds favour Pakistan due to their ability to bat better than the Srilankan side. There will be a good amount of pressure on Dunith Wellalage to perform better in this game. He was at his best when Srilanka were playing against India. The weather at Premadasa Stadium is showing cloudy but it still can rain. The match starts in just few minutes and we will be enjoying this game for sure.
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India has already qualified for the Asia Cup final. Today Pakistan and Srilanka will play against each other to qualify for the final against India. The outcome of this game depends a lot in the hands of spinners. The betting odds favour Pakistan due to their ability to bat better than the Srilankan side. There will be a good amount of pressure on Dunith Wellalage to perform better in this game. He was at his best when Srilanka were playing against India. The weather at Premadasa Stadium is showing cloudy but it still can rain. The match starts in just few minutes and we will be enjoying this game for sure.
In today's match due to rain any untoward incident may happen especially the toss is getting delayed due to rain. The entire stadium is covered and has not been tossed so far. However, today's game may reduce the over due to DLS method due to rain. However, those who will bat first must bat aggressively, otherwise if the run rate is cut in the DLS system, it can definitely have a negative impact on qualifying.

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Another rain delay! This match is very crucial for Pakistan than Srilanka. If the match gets abandoned due to the rain, Srilanka will then quality for the final. The reason being they have currently a better NRR than Pakistan. I hope the delay is not that long and both team are able to play the complete 50 overs. Pakistan are favourite to win in this game, they have always outperrformed the odds. They might not have the complete bowling attack, they still have very good batters. Out of the Srilankan bowling attack only Wellalage and desilva can create issues for the Pakistani batters. If they can handle these two guys it will be easy for them to win today.
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Pakistan VS Srilanka
One from these two will qualify for the final match against India. The match will be played in Premadasa Stadium. Spinners again will play a crucial roles in today's match. The team that will win the toss today would be batting first. As early in the day this pitch does help the batters and later on it becomes spin friendly.
It's a really crucial match for both team because victories team will be quiality for next stage and loser will be eliminated, it's really high pressure match for Pakistan because they already has insufficient quality player due to injury which will really impact thier results, but we can hope that paksitan has always dominance over them and recently they won series too on thier home ground with most of thier player were same so we can expect that they will delivered same as our expectations. Let see how Pakistani new player can make difference at such a high pressure game.
The Asia Cup Super Four 11 match is going to be played between Pakistan and Sri Lanka.Pakistan had lost to india  in the previous match and Sri Lanka had also lost to India. India has reached the final by defeating both these teams.  Both these teams are losing to India and now they are facing each other. So this match is going to be very interesting.A total of 155 matches have been played between Sri Lanka and Pakistan, of which 92 matches have been won by Pakistan and 508 matches have been won by Sri Lanka.Taking this record into account and prediction this match, Pakistan is a very strong team as compared to sri Lanka.


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September 14, 2023, 12:03:23 PM
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Another rain delay! This match is very crucial for Pakistan than Srilanka. If the match gets abandoned due to the rain, Srilanka will then quality for the final. The reason being they have currently a better NRR than Pakistan. I hope the delay is not that long and both team are able to play the complete 50 overs. Pakistan are favourite to win in this game, they have always outperrformed the odds. They might not have the complete bowling attack, they still have very good batters.
The match has started between Pakistan and Srilanka but it's a 45 over match. Pakistan won the toss and decided to bat first. Pakistan made Two changes to the playing XI announced last evening Saud Shakeel is out due to fever while Imam ul Haq has suffered a back spasm injury. That is why Fakhar Zaman and Abdullah Shafique come in the side. I think in this pitch 250 plus total is a good score. Now the current score of the Pakistan team is 6 runs in 3 overs. Sirlinka has a very good spin attach bowler that a big challenge for Pakistan because Sirlanka has a home advantage. If Pakistan has manage to scored 250 target than Pakistan has good chance to qualify for Final of Asis Cup

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September 14, 2023, 12:59:02 PM
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Pakistan looking good for now they have only lost a wicket and have scored 68 runs. The wicket for now seems to be favouring Pakistan batters. Not sure how long it will remain the same as seen in the past. Babar Azam is looking better than what he was while playing against the Indian bowlers. At the moment the current run rate is below 5, it is not that tough to get it above 5 for Pakistan. The only issue that they might face if another rain delay happens and Srilanka ask for DLS review. That would be bad for Pakistan since they have a bad current run rate.
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Pakistan looking good for now they have only lost a wicket and have scored 68 runs. The wicket for now seems to be favouring Pakistan batters. Not sure how long it will remain the same as seen in the past. Babar Azam is looking better than what he was while playing against the Indian bowlers. At the moment the current run rate is below 5, it is not that tough to get it above 5 for Pakistan. The only issue that they might face if another rain delay happens and Srilanka ask for DLS review. That would be bad for Pakistan since they have a bad current run rate.

With the loss of two wickets, the team is under pressure as Babar Azam is out at the moment and the Pakistan team looks a little weak. Points and points of Sri Lanka team are same than Pakistan but Sri Lanka team is ahead according to run rate. So definitely if Pakistan team can score more runs today and beat Sri Lanka team by a big margin then definitely Pakistan team can enter the final. However, Pakistan team is under a lot of pressure due to the strong bowling of the Sri Lankan team, but the competition is full of competition between the two teams. I think Pakistan team is more likely to win today.

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With the loss of two wickets, the team is under pressure as Babar Azam is out at the moment and the Pakistan team looks a little weak. Points and points of Sri Lanka team are same than Pakistan but Sri Lanka team is ahead according to run rate. So definitely if Pakistan team can score more runs today and beat Sri Lanka team by a big margin then definitely Pakistan team can enter the final. However, Pakistan team is under a lot of pressure due to the strong bowling of the Sri Lankan team, but the competition is full of competition between the two teams. I think Pakistan team is more likely to win today.

It is plain and simple. The difference in run rate is so great, and in case Pakistan want to qualify, then they need to defeat Sri Lanka. There is no other way for them to qualify. If the match gets washed out, no matter how many runs they score, they would still fail to qualify for the final. But from what I can see, Pakistani batsmen have gone on the attack now. They are scoring at a rate of 8-10 runs per over. The partnership for 6th wicket between Mohammad Rizwan and Iftikhar Ahmed is guiding Pakistan towards a total that is more than decent.

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Pakistan looking good for now they have only lost a wicket and have scored 68 runs. The wicket for now seems to be favouring Pakistan batters. Not sure how long it will remain the same as seen in the past. Babar Azam is looking better than what he was while playing against the Indian bowlers. At the moment the current run rate is below 5, it is not that tough to get it above 5 for Pakistan. The only issue that they might face if another rain delay happens and Srilanka ask for DLS review. That would be bad for Pakistan since they have a bad current run rate.

With the loss of two wickets, the team is under pressure as Babar Azam is out at the moment and the Pakistan team looks a little weak. Points and points of Sri Lanka team are same than Pakistan but Sri Lanka team is ahead according to run rate. So definitely if Pakistan team can score more runs today and beat Sri Lanka team by a big margin then definitely Pakistan team can enter the final. However, Pakistan team is under a lot of pressure due to the strong bowling of the Sri Lankan team, but the competition is full of competition between the two teams. I think Pakistan team is more likely to win today.

Yes, you are right. Sri Lankan run rate is better than Pakistan and Sri Lanka is in good position. And it can beat Pakistan . If Pakistan win only by few runs,then chances to qualify for Pakistan are least. But if Pakistan beat Sri Lanka by a huge runs, Pakistan will qualify for final. India is in final and India is a strongest side. So Let's see what happens. SriLankan players are in form, it is hard for Pakistan to beat Sri Lanka with high Marin. SriLanka wants any win but Pakistan wants to win with high margin.

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September 14, 2023, 04:15:36 PM
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Pakistan posted 252 runs total in lost of 7 wickets in 42 over. Mohammad Rizwan and Iftikhar Ahmed 108 runs partnership helped Pakistan to post a good total in a rainaffected game against Sri Lanka. I think The running has been good in this match. This is what pakistan lacked against India. Virat Scored 65 Singles and Doubles the other day in his century. Rotation of the strike is the difference between big totals and average totals these days. According to DLS Sri Lanka target will also be 252 in 42 overs. Sri Lanka Need 252 Runs In 252 Balls to win this match and qualifying for Final Because of 42 Overs match Pakistan finish at 252.

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