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October 19, 2023, 09:57:38 PM
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I feel that Pakistan's batting order is weaker than Australia and They are too much dependable on Babar Azam and Rizwan which put him under extra pressure and can't able to play his actual game. Whereas Australia., found their rhythm back and we all know if they start and they will become unstoppable and that is why they are having 5 trophies behind them.

I am looking forward to seeing tomorrow's match and I guess it will give a good match since both of them are not really in comfortable position, and they need to make a statement.

This is a big match for both Pakistan and Australia and no one can afford to lose. Although Pakistan lost to India (they had to lose), does not mean that Pakistan is out of competition but they can be out of the race and the passion may be down if they lost to Australia tomorrow. This can be a turning point for our Pakistan team. Although the match won't be a piece of cake, but if somehow we are able to win this, then i would be confident that we are going to the Semi finals.

Pakistan showed some great fights in their last real match with Sri Lanka and if they can repeat the same performance, it will be nightmares for the Aussies. I am saying Last Real Match, as the last match with India was not a real one.

This time it will be a really tough match for Pakistan team because Australian team is much stronger then them. The Pakistani team is good against the teams which aren't much competitive however this time they are going to face a team which will give them huge competition on field. The Pakistani players sometimes lose their consistency and that's a reason for their loss.

The match with India was also a tough one and Pakistan lost it but yeah they played very well against Sri Lanka team and won the match. The Australian team is tougher than both India and Sri Lanka in performance and they can be the worst nightmare for many teams I guess. Pakistani team isn't doing well in past few matches but if they improve their gameplay then surely they'll give a tough time to Australian team.

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October 19, 2023, 11:22:17 PM
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The Australian team is tougher than both India and Sri Lanka in performance and they can be the worst nightmare for many teams I guess. Pakistani team isn't doing well in past few matches but if they improve their gameplay then surely they'll give a tough time to Australian team.
How do you assume Australia as a tough opponent when they started the world cup with two losses, once against India and one against South Africa, not even the die hard fans of Australia are not giving them any chance to reach the semi finals.

India and New Zealand are the favorites coming into this world cup and they are proving their worth and the next match between these two teams will be the interesting match up everyone is waiting to see.
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How do you assume Australia as a tough opponent when they started the world cup with two losses, once against India and one against South Africa, not even the die hard fans of Australia are not giving them any chance to reach the semi finals.

India and New Zealand are the favorites coming into this world cup and they are proving their worth and the next match between these two teams will be the interesting match up everyone is waiting to see.

I had some talk with my Australian friend yesterday,his opinion was India,New Zealand and South Africa for the Cup winning position.Actually it was very hard to hear from the Australian people itself.Once upon a time Australia was strong enough with the players like Hayden, Ponting and Gilchrist.This three legends play the unique strike against the world bowlers and made the continuous victory to their team.

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October 20, 2023, 01:45:23 AM
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How do you assume Australia as a tough opponent when they started the world cup with two losses, once against India and one against South Africa, not even the die hard fans of Australia are not giving them any chance to reach the semi finals.

India and New Zealand are the favorites coming into this world cup and they are proving their worth and the next match between these two teams will be the interesting match up everyone is waiting to see.

I would be cautious before writing off Australia. Remember that they always perform well in ICC tournaments. Today's match is going to be important. Remember that Australia managed to win their last match. A win against Pakistan today will give them good momentum. And after this they have the relatively easy match against the Netherlands. There is still a good chance that Australia can qualify for the semi-finals, but then there is no room for complacency. They need to boost their net run rate as well, as it is a bit low (-0.734).

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October 20, 2023, 01:46:33 AM
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I feel that Pakistan's batting order is weaker than Australia and They are too much dependable on Babar Azam and Rizwan which put him under extra pressure and can't able to play his actual game. Whereas Australia., found their rhythm back and we all know if they start and they will become unstoppable and that is why they are having 5 trophies behind them.

I am looking forward to seeing tomorrow's match and I guess it will give a good match since both of them are not really in comfortable position, and they need to make a statement.

This is a big match for both Pakistan and Australia and no one can afford to lose. Although Pakistan lost to India (they had to lose), does not mean that Pakistan is out of competition but they can be out of the race and the passion may be down if they lost to Australia tomorrow. This can be a turning point for our Pakistan team. Although the match won't be a piece of cake, but if somehow we are able to win this, then i would be confident that we are going to the Semi finals.

Pakistan showed some great fights in their last real match with Sri Lanka and if they can repeat the same performance, it will be nightmares for the Aussies. I am saying Last Real Match, as the last match with India was not a real one.

This time it will be a really tough match for Pakistan team because Australian team is much stronger then them. The Pakistani team is good against the teams which aren't much competitive however this time they are going to face a team which will give them huge competition on field. The Pakistani players sometimes lose their consistency and that's a reason for their loss.

The match with India was also a tough one and Pakistan lost it but yeah they played very well against Sri Lanka team and won the match. The Australian team is tougher than both India and Sri Lanka in performance and they can be the worst nightmare for many teams I guess. Pakistani team isn't doing well in past few matches but if they improve their gameplay then surely they'll give a tough time to Australian team.

If the Pakistan team can play with Australia with the same consistency as they batted against Sri Lanka and they got a great win then it will not be impossible to win the match with Australia. But Pakistan team sometimes play very bad due to which they have to lose like against India they did not play very well India won very strongly. In today's match, Australia will want to beat Pakistan to add their points, undoubtedly Australia is a good team, but the cricket players of Australia are not able to present themselves in this way in this World Cup.

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October 20, 2023, 02:26:19 AM
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The two opening pair of Bangladesh started fairly well and their partnership developed well. Mushfiqur Rahim and Mahmudullah Riyad pulled the team after the dismissal of Tanjid Shakib and Liton Das. The responsible batting of these two gave India a target of 257 runs for 8 wickets in the stipulated 50 overs. I think the target of 257 runs will not be too difficult for India because every player in India is batting well. It is the responsibility of each player to bat well and they will reach victory very easily. I think India will win this match very easily. Let's see how well Bangladesh can bowl in the end.
Bangladesh Posted 256/8 in 50 Overs. At one stage Bangladesh were 90/0 in 14 overs. Indian bowling did well to restrict them on 256 as it's a flat track with little support for the bowlers.156/4 in 32 Overs Bangladesh lost track between 15-30 overs. Bangladesh Best resource and captain Shakib ul Hasan is out due to injury .Another dominating performance from India, outclassed Bangladesh in all 3 departments. Their spinners were too good in the middle overs, restricted Bangladesh under a below 300 total, and it was an easy chase for the batters in the end 261/3 in 42th Over Virat Kholi Brilliant knock scoring Century and won the match easily for India.
Bangladesh did well against the Indian team. Team captain Shakib Al Hasan could not play due his injury which was already a minus point for Bangladesh team. But the fact that they managed to score a big one without Shakib that is nothing less. The opening partnership was good. The team had a partnership of 117 runs through Tanzid Hasan and Litton Das which is their biggest opening score in this World Cup. But since the partnership broke down, the team became frustrated. Batsmen Shanto and Mehidy Hasan Miraz who came in at 3rd and 4th position did nothing for the team. Mushfiqur Rahim and Mahmudullah tried to push the team forward. They definitely needed more than 300 runs to fight against India but it was difficult and India won very comfortably losing only 3 wickets.
Bangladesh's opening batsmen started well in yesterday's match but later Mehdi Hasan Miraj 3, Nazmul Hasan Shanto 8, got out very quickly, thus Bangladesh's batting line naturally came under pressure. However, later Mushfiqur Rahim 38 and Mahmudullah Riyad 46 are doing enough to take the team ahead. But one thing is very important that Bangladesh's innings of 256 runs was not enough collection for tomorrow's match. Even if the Bangladesh batsmen scored 350+ runs in tomorrow's match, it would have been competitive for Bangladesh.
After the victory against Bangladesh by 7 wickets India maintains their unbeaten streak in world cup 2023, amassing eight points and securing the second place in the Points table with Net Run Rate +1.65 and New Zealand holds the top position with a higher Net Run Rate +1.98. KL Rahul remained unbeaten on 34(34) and gave a complete strike to Virat Kohli to complete his Century. Indian Captain Rohit Sharma climbs to the top of the leading 265 run-getters list after his 48-run knock against Bangladesh in world cup, while Mitchell Santner continues to lead the leading wicket-takers table with 11 wickets. Virat Kohli is just six runs behind Rohit Sharma his 259 runs in world cup.

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October 20, 2023, 02:42:36 AM
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If the Pakistan team can play with Australia with the same consistency as they batted against Sri Lanka and they got a great win then it will not be impossible to win the match with Australia. But Pakistan team sometimes play very bad due to which they have to lose like against India they did not play very well India won very strongly. In today's match, Australia will want to beat Pakistan to add their points, undoubtedly Australia is a good team, but the cricket players of Australia are not able to present themselves in this way in this World Cup.

Australia needs to boost their run rate during today's match. They are in a weak position, having lost 2 out of the 3 matches played so far. In order to qualify, in all probability they need to win at least 4-5 of the remaining 6 matches. If they lose against Pakistan today, then the world cup is almost over for them. With New Zealand and India at the top, having won all 4 of the matches being played so far the fight for qualifying for semi-finals is now limited to the last two slots. And at this point, it looks as if South Africa and Pakistan have the advantage.

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October 20, 2023, 03:13:55 AM
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Virat Kohli is just six runs behind Rohit Sharma his 259 runs in world cup.

Both Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma are the best batsmen till date India has. If we comparing, then Rohit Sharma achieved this score in 3 matches only, as in the first match he got out for 0 runs. Nevertheless, it was sad to see Rohit missing his 50. Moreover we should also applaud for KL Rahul, as he played dot balls so that Virat could complete his century. Overall a great performance by the Indian team. Next match India will face New Zeland, and after that match, there will be only one unbeaten team.

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If the Pakistan team can play with Australia with the same consistency as they batted against Sri Lanka and they got a great win then it will not be impossible to win the match with Australia. But Pakistan team sometimes play very bad due to which they have to lose like against India they did not play very well India won very strongly. In today's match, Australia will want to beat Pakistan to add their points, undoubtedly Australia is a good team, but the cricket players of Australia are not able to present themselves in this way in this World Cup.

Pakistan's team is very unpredictable. They will surprise Australia or their fans Wink in this match. Pakistan's team is in very good touch, and their middle order is scoring runs (except in the match against India). Australians are getting some form back, but still, Smith and Warner are not in good touch. Pakistan often choked against Australia because of their pressure.

It is a do-or-die game for Australia; if they lose today's match, they will be out of the competition. They have to win all of their remaining matches to stay in the tournament, and those matches are against in-form teams. Australia will try to win this game with a margin to improve their run rate, while Pakistan will try to just win this game to stay alive in the tournament.

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If the Pakistan team can play with Australia with the same consistency as they batted against Sri Lanka and they got a great win then it will not be impossible to win the match with Australia. But Pakistan team sometimes play very bad due to which they have to lose like against India they did not play very well India won very strongly. In today's match, Australia will want to beat Pakistan to add their points, undoubtedly Australia is a good team, but the cricket players of Australia are not able to present themselves in this way in this World Cup.

Pakistan's team is very unpredictable. They will surprise Australia or their fans Wink in this match. Pakistan's team is in very good touch, and their middle order is scoring runs (except in the match against India). Australians are getting some form back, but still, Smith and Warner are not in good touch. Pakistan often choked against Australia because of their pressure.

It is a do-or-die game for Australia; if they lose today's match, they will be out of the competition. They have to win all of their remaining matches to stay in the tournament, and those matches are against in-form teams. Australia will try to win this game with a margin to improve their run rate, while Pakistan will try to just win this game to stay alive in the tournament.

The match between Pakistan and Australia will be very tight as both teams are very strong.However, looking at the points table proves that Australia is very much on the back foot in this tournament.Most of the Australian players are now out of form which is why they are in this condition.But it cannot be said that Pakistan's condition is very good, their opening batsmen are not doing very well but the middle order is doing well.Best of luck to both the teams today as they win the hearts of the fans with their best performances.
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October 20, 2023, 05:34:05 AM
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Rohit Sharma's much needed return to form for India Rohit Sharma is in his best form in this tournament. If I mention the names, maybe I have to mention the names of 11 players of India, so I am not mentioning the names, I am just saying that India is one of the most favorite team in this world cup and every Indian player has his own best rhythm now. The way India have batted in the last four matches, it seems that even if the target is 300 or 350 for them, they will easily chase that run and win. 250 plus runs would have been a fighting score if it had been Mirpur's wicket, as Mirpur's wicket was not played so 250 was never a winning target for Bangladesh.

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October 20, 2023, 07:39:17 AM
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Rohit Sharma's much needed return to form for India Rohit Sharma is in his best form in this tournament. If I mention the names, maybe I have to mention the names of 11 players of India, so I am not mentioning the names, I am just saying that India is one of the most favorite team in this world cup and every Indian player has his own best rhythm now. The way India have batted in the last four matches, it seems that even if the target is 300 or 350 for them, they will easily chase that run and win. 250 plus runs would have been a fighting score if it had been Mirpur's wicket, as Mirpur's wicket was not played so 250 was never a winning target for Bangladesh.
Yes, the whole top order seems to have hit purple patch. Gill, Sharma, Kohli, Rahul, Iyer doing fairly well when needed. India team seems to be capable of chasing down any total presented to them. Hopefully they can stay in form for the entirety of the tournament and it will be good news for the hosting nation with a potential World cup win in their hands.

Belter of a match coming up in under an hour. Australia takes on Pakistan in Bengaluru. Looking at form, Pakistan seems to be favs to win the match but the sportsbook odds are favoring Australia at the moment. Australian bowling attack have showed up to the torunament but I cannot say the same about their batting at the moment. If Australia manage to get a good start(if batting first), they should be able to defend the total.

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Last edit: October 20, 2023, 08:53:41 AM by JSRAW
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Pakistan won an excellent toss and 20% of the battle because according to every report, dew will surely come into play tonight which is a nightmare for a team bowling second.

Now their seamers need to do their job with the new ball so that they can make life easy for their spinners in the middle overs, also fielders can't afford to be sloppy in the field against the Aussie. Having said that i won't mind meme level fielding for some fun.  

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October 20, 2023, 09:21:47 AM
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Pakistan captain Babar Azam invited Australia to bat first after winning the toss in a turnaround mission at the M Chinnaswamy Stadium in Bangalore. Australia's opening pair has started very well. David warner is also batting very well. David warner will score a century if the Pakistani bowlers can't get him out at this moment. Pakistan should tell Australia to break the partnership of this pair at this moment. Then Australia will be under a bit of pressure. At the moment, the Australian team has collected 73 runs for zero wickets in nine overs. The way Australia are playing at the moment, it looks like they will score above 300.

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October 20, 2023, 09:51:05 AM
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Pakistan captain Babar Azam invited Australia to bat first after winning the toss in a turnaround mission at the M Chinnaswamy Stadium in Bangalore. Australia's opening pair has started very well. David warner is also batting very well. David warner will score a century if the Pakistani bowlers can't get him out at this moment. Pakistan should tell Australia to break the partnership of this pair at this moment. Then Australia will be under a bit of pressure. At the moment, the Australian team has collected 73 runs for zero wickets in nine overs. The way Australia are playing at the moment, it looks like they will score above 300.
Australia's two opening batsmen had a monster batting start against Pakistan today. The way Mitchell Marsh and Debit Warner opened the batting looked like they would go for 400 plus runs against Pakistan. The bowler that Pakistan is using in the bowling attack is spending 10 to 15 runs at the end of the over. Haris Rauf came to the ball in the first over and gave away 24 runs and in the subsequent overs he spent around 12 plus runs. If Pakistan can't get these two batsmen out then a mountain of targets is waiting for Pakistan. After the first 16 overs, Australia scored 134 runs against Pakistan. What no team has been able to do against Pakistan in a World Cup tournament, Australia may be about to do it today.

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October 20, 2023, 10:00:07 AM
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Australia's two opening batsmen had a monster batting start against Pakistan today. The way Mitchell Marsh and Debit Warner opened the batting looked like they would go for 400 plus runs against Pakistan. The bowler that Pakistan is using in the bowling attack is spending 10 to 15 runs at the end of the over. Haris Rauf came to the ball in the first over and gave away 24 runs and in the subsequent overs he spent around 12 plus runs. If Pakistan can't get these two batsmen out then a mountain of targets is waiting for Pakistan. After the first 16 overs, Australia scored 134 runs against Pakistan. What no team has been able to do against Pakistan in a World Cup tournament, Australia may be about to do it today.

400 is defiantly what Aussies will be looking at the moment. Pakistan bowling fully exposed in this ICC tournament, bowlers were brutally punished in last 3 games. Haris Rauf was the most expensive bowler so far today with bowling figures 3-0-47-0. After 20 overs Aussies are 149/0 and with 10 wickets in hands they can give a huge target. Babar Azam must try to attack them as much to get some wickets. 

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October 20, 2023, 10:38:11 AM
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It's true that Bangladesh improved their bowling, but not enough.

It's a shame for the Bangladesh Cricket Team. Especially the failure of Santo, Miraj, and Towhid Hridoy. Bangladesh Cricket Team depends on their performance. On the other hand, Musfiqur Rahim, and Mahamudullah Riyed played so much better from Middle-Order-Batsman. Proverb said, They again proved, "Old is Gold".
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October 20, 2023, 10:39:24 AM
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400 is defiantly what Aussies will be looking at the moment. Pakistan bowling fully exposed in this ICC tournament, bowlers were brutally punished in last 3 games. Haris Rauf was the most expensive bowler so far today with bowling figures 3-0-47-0. After 20 overs Aussies are 149/0 and with 10 wickets in hands they can give a huge target. Babar Azam must try to attack them as much to get some wickets. 

In order to reach 400, Australia need to score at 10 runs per over now. Will be very difficult. I guess they will end up at somewhere around 360. But it can go higher because they have 10 wickets remaining. Warner and Marsh have both hit centuries and now they will release themselves and destroy the Pakistani bowlers. And they have a number of power-hitters to come, including Marcus Stoinis, Glenn Maxwell and Josh Inglis. And it will be interesting to see whether Haris Rauf will bowl again. As of now, he has figures of 3-0-47-0.

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October 20, 2023, 10:53:17 AM
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Australia are 245/0 after 33 overs. Both the openers have scored their respective hundreds. That catch drop by Usama was the turning point of the match. Both the batters are well set, and now they will accelerate more and try to put runs at a higher run rate.
Australia is looking for a target of well over 400 at the moment until Pakistan bowlers produce some heroics. It looks like Pakistan has already lost the match.

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Pakistan won an excellent toss and 20% of the battle because according to every report, dew will surely come into play tonight which is a nightmare for a team bowling second.

Now their seamers need to do their job with the new ball so that they can make life easy for their spinners in the middle overs, also fielders can't afford to be sloppy in the field against the Aussie. Having said that i won't mind meme level fielding for some fun.  

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Vintage Pakistani fielding, drop a sitter. 

I am sorry to say this that this Pakistani side has zero idea how to stop the Australian batters. Today might again go in the history books of World Cup cricket as Australians are eyeing a target of 450. Warner is still batting and has already scored his century. They have 8 wickets in hand, most of their batters who are yet to come can accelerate the current run rate of 10. Plenty of overs still left for this first session to end.

Regardless of the dew factor the psychological gain by Australian side if they are able to give a mammoth of target will destroy Pakistani batting. We have seen how bad are Pakistani batters perform when they play in pressure.

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