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Question: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season Winner?  (Voting closed: September 30, 2023, 07:23:36 AM)
Sevilla (if they go down from UCL) - 6 (33.3%)
Other team coming from UCL - 2 (11.1%)
Liverpool - 8 (44.4%)
Roma - 0 (0%)
Villarreal - 1 (5.6%)
Marseille - 0 (0%)
Sporting - 0 (0%)
Other - 1 (5.6%)
Total Voters: 18

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January 03, 2024, 11:13:36 AM
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First of all I would like to see the Turkish representative Galatasaray to be as successful as possible in the Europa League. But if they can't manage to go for the Europa League title then I would like to see Leverkusen making it there.  Smiley  Because I really like Xabi Alonso's team this season. They are absolutely very consistent.

This consistency should be a big help for them to go on until the finale in this competition. I hope they don't face Liverpool early though.

Because if this happens it is really hard to predict the winner. It might be the end of the road for Leverkusen considering how strong Liverpool are also.
I'm not sure that Galatasaray can wins the European League title because it can't be confirmed whether he will make it through the play-off round because his opponent can't be underestimated either. If Galatasaray is able to get through the play-off round I think this will be a big challenge for the clubs which is in the top 16 because Galatasaray strength in the domestic league is very good. So the club that is united with Galatasaray will feel a lot of pressure but I am not favorite for Galatasaray to win the title there.

Of course, with Leverkusen current consistency, many are speculating that Leverkusen will come home with the European League trophy, but we also have to pay attention to other clubs such as Liverpool, the elite Premier League club. Even though Liverpool is not as consistent as Leverkusen, the strength of the Premier League clubs cannot be underestimated because of their competition the strongs one.

And yes, I agree with what you say. I hoped Leverkusen and Liverpool don't meet before reaching the final because we all want to see their performance in defeating their European league rival's and they can meet in the final to proved who is the strongest and deserves to winnings the European League title.

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January 03, 2024, 11:35:03 AM
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Despite losing two matches, Liverpool managed to stay at the top of the table. That alone is enough. But my point is that the two teams that Liverpool have lost against are much weaker than Liverpool. Another point is that Liverpool did not take these two matches seriously as they faced tougher opponents in the Premier League. So they showed no interest in doing well in the two Europa League matches to perform well in the Premier League. This shows that their main priority is to maintain their performance in the Premier League. That's why I don't consider Liverpool as favorites for the Europa League title. However, Liverpool are still a very strong team. I wouldn't say they have no chance of winning the Europa League title.
Liverpool did everything necessary to win the group, everything else was unimportant for them, these defeats did not affect their results and of course Klopp decided to give the players a rest before more important matches in the Premier League, where they are also in the lead.

Liverpool is one of the EL favorites, but Bayer Leverkusen and Milan are also very good teams, so don’t rush to conclusions. And there is still a lot of time before the final of the tournament, anything can change, injuries, recessions, all this can affect the team.

Or maybe we will see some kind of dark horse, there are enough good teams in this playoff, maybe even Mourinier will be able to reach the final with Roma, he has a lot of experience in this.
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January 03, 2024, 11:56:34 AM
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Every club have 50/50 chances of either winning or stopping, no one would relent but keen on winning the title race with everything they can possibly get their hands hold on. Don't underestimate any club when it comes to trophies. Liverpool are strong enough to win the Europa League title but we should also consider the competitive run of other running clubs for the title. Bayer Leverkusen comes to mind when I scout for a second club that would suit in after Liverpool. No matter how average these clubs are, they're top and focused on winning.

You are right, when the match starts both teams have the same chance even though in terms of quality there are differences because within 90 minutes many things may happen such as players getting guarded, red cards or also the opposing team being considered weak making different strategies that are difficult to penetrate by the favorite team.
Last season in the European league there was Barcelona who was predicted to be champions but failed because they lost to Manchester United as well as Manchester United was the favorites but were also eliminated because they lost to Sevilla who eventually became champions that season, so even though Liverpool were the favorites it didn't mean they would have easy can get it and it is even very possible to be eliminated because they lost to a team that was not considered capable of doing it, but any team will face a very difficult match when facing Liverpool who are on fire at the moment.

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January 03, 2024, 12:43:34 PM
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In the Europa League there are teams that have good quality in their domestic league and when teams from different countries compete it is not easy to predict and there is a very big possibility of surprises and in fact this often happened in previous seasons in the Europa League competition so we cannot Liverpool are too favored by giving a fairly large percentage.
In the know out round, anything is possible and what remains is the best team in Europe, Liverpool does have quite strong strengths but so do other teams, other teams also have strengths and each team certainly has its own different strengths and weaknesses. .
AC Milan and Leverkusen could also be among the candidates for the competition to win the Europa League this season if Milan is able to get past the Knockout round in the Europa League. Meanwhile, Leverkusen is also quite likely to be the best in the Europa League this season if you look at the solidarity of their players in matches in their own domestic competition. However, it is also quite natural that an English team like Liverpool is favored because English teams are usually always faster in making comebacks in competitions other than their own domestic competition.

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January 03, 2024, 01:02:56 PM
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In the Europa League there are teams that have good quality in their domestic league and when teams from different countries compete it is not easy to predict and there is a very big possibility of surprises and in fact this often happened in previous seasons in the Europa League competition so we cannot Liverpool are too favored by giving a fairly large percentage.
In the know out round, anything is possible and what remains is the best team in Europe, Liverpool does have quite strong strengths but so do other teams, other teams also have strengths and each team certainly has its own different strengths and weaknesses. .
AC Milan and Leverkusen could also be among the candidates for the competition to win the Europa League this season if Milan is able to get past the Knockout round in the Europa League. Meanwhile, Leverkusen is also quite likely to be the best in the Europa League this season if you look at the solidarity of their players in matches in their own domestic competition. However, it is also quite natural that an English team like Liverpool is favored because English teams are usually always faster in making comebacks in competitions other than their own domestic competition.
AC Milan might be on the list of favorites to win the Europa League title in terms of teams, but Liverpool and Leverkusen are the favorites based on current performances. AC Milan is a better performing team compared to Leverkusen but this season is not for them as their performance is not good at all this season. Leverkusen and Liverpool have been in the best form this season so it wouldn't be a surprise if either of these two teams were to win, and it wouldn't be a surprise if the two sides met in the final. I would consider Liverpool as favorites for this season at least and if they don't perform too badly then Liverpool could win the Europa League this season.

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January 03, 2024, 01:14:17 PM
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Yes, at first I thought Liverpool would really dominate the European league and become champions easily. But seeing Leverkusen's performance in the domestic league makes me think that Liverpool will not win the title easily. Leverkusen really made an impressive performance by finishing all their matches in the league without losing. Even though the Bundesliga is a level below the English league, we cannot underestimate Leverkusen because their performance really dominates the domestic league.
Liverpool and Liverkusen are currently in first place in their respective domestic leagues. Of course these two teams deserve to be European league competitors, this is not just about the EPL league being more competitive than the Bundesliga but look at Leverkusen's consistency to date, they are even an unbeatable club in all European leagues. .

Indeed, in terms of player quality, Liverpool is more complete than Liverkusen. If Leverkusen succeeds in adding players in this transfer market, it is not impossible that Leverkusen can win the title, because to become champions you also need depth in the squad of core players which is equivalent to substitute players because they compete in three tournaments, and coach Xabi Alanso has done it quite well, just Just wait for support from Leverkusen management to add more players.

We can't underestimate leverkusen. You are correct in your observation that Liverpool has been showcasing more impressive performances than Leverkusen, however, it is important to also acknowledge that Leverkusen may come into the match with a renewed approach. People were also getting surprised to see that how leverkusen was consistently showing very good performance like that. I can't even believe it how leverkusen is going to reaches so many trophies at the same time. It was able to competing with bayern munich for the title race then the club is now getting into the further stage of europa league.

Xabi has been giving a lot of improvements to the leverkusen. He changed the way leverkusen was playing the game and xabi is a key for leverkusen to get a trophy again after waiting very long. Leverkusen will not be going to its current place if there was no xabi.
I needs to appreaciate someone who has been suggesting the club to recruit xabi as a new coach even though he has no experience as a coach before. It was the most successful recruitment from leverkusen.
Xabi will become next big coach for sure. The way he was managing his club was totally different from another coach. It will better if leverkusen will able to get trophy this season.



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January 03, 2024, 01:22:13 PM
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We are getting close to Galatasaray Sparta Prag competition and Galatasaray still couldn't solve its inner issues especially with left back and central midfield (aside from Torreira). I am not expecting Galatasaray to easily beat Sparta Prag at this point just because of these observations I got through watching Galatasaray numerous times. I think, the best result Galatasaray can get is draw and close win. I wouldn't even be surprised if Galatasaray loses to Sparta Prag, just like they lost to Kopenhag.
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January 03, 2024, 01:37:22 PM
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Quite strange play-offs this year, don’t you think, colleagues?  Roll Eyes
Last year we had a super match Barcelona - United + such teams as Bayer, Juventus, Ajax, PSV, Roma in other pairs. This year there is not a single top pair, and the most recognizable brands are Milan and Roma. It's more like the Conference League now. Potentially in the 1/8 we will already be able to see interesting confrontations, for example Liverpool - Milan or Bayer - Roma, but there is nothing even close to last year.
Where did it all go? There are also many dull couples in the Champions League  Grin

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January 03, 2024, 01:53:49 PM
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AC Milan might be on the list of favorites to win the Europa League title in terms of teams, but Liverpool and Leverkusen are the favorites based on current performances. AC Milan is a better performing team compared to Leverkusen but this season is not for them as their performance is not good at all this season. Leverkusen and Liverpool have been in the best form this season so it wouldn't be a surprise if either of these two teams were to win, and it wouldn't be a surprise if the two sides met in the final. I would consider Liverpool as favorites for this season at least and if they don't perform too badly then Liverpool could win the Europa League this season.
If we want to check by performance, Liverpool has made some poor performance at some point in the Europa which if put to consideration it could be said it's not too safe to see them as favorite to win, AC Milan is yet to show a performance in the Europa so until they do I think we should give them that benefits of doubts.

Even in the champions league AC Milan didn't perform poorly, they had a very tight difference against the second position in their group so I wouldn't consider them poor with their performance except they they are average in their domestic league. Leverkusen is the only team here who has maintained a very good record such that I can say with their present for they are more like the best team for the league title because they have a good squad, a good form and they are consistent aswell so it's very possible they even have better chance then other team in the league.

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January 03, 2024, 02:21:31 PM
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AC Milan might be on the list of favorites to win the Europa League title in terms of teams, but Liverpool and Leverkusen are the favorites based on current performances. AC Milan is a better performing team compared to Leverkusen but this season is not for them as their performance is not good at all this season. Leverkusen and Liverpool have been in the best form this season so it wouldn't be a surprise if either of these two teams were to win, and it wouldn't be a surprise if the two sides met in the final. I would consider Liverpool as favorites for this season at least and if they don't perform too badly then Liverpool could win the Europa League this season.
AC Milan really deserves to be taken into account because after all they are a top European team who have a strong enough mentality on the European stage and also this season AC Milan has good strength even though they are sometimes unable to maintain the consistency of their best performance.
However, if we look overall to be favored to win the Europa League this season of course AC Milan is still below Liverpool and Leverkusen but I always think that in the know out round anything is possible to happen so we can't be too excessive in favoring a team to win. won the Europa League title this season and the season is still quite long and it is possible for all teams to experience improvements or declines in quality.

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January 03, 2024, 05:44:20 PM
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Last season in the European league there was Barcelona who was predicted to be champions but failed because they lost to Manchester United as well as Manchester United was the favorites but were also eliminated because they lost to Sevilla who eventually became champions that season, so even though Liverpool were the favorites it didn't mean they would have easy can get it and it is even very possible to be eliminated because they lost to a team that was not considered capable of doing it, but any team will face a very difficult match when facing Liverpool who are on fire at the moment.

I agree with what you said. There is a lot of history where highly favored teams surprisingly failed to win trophies and become champions. But I think there are many factors that cause that to happen. Such as injuries to key players or ineffective game tactics against an underdog team. But things like that cannot be used as a reference because we cannot expect Liverpool to also experience that. I think we will be able to talk about the strong teams in the European league when we enter the semifinals because there will be a lot of speculation if we predict it now.

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January 03, 2024, 06:02:42 PM
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AC Milan might be on the list of favorites to win the Europa League title in terms of teams, but Liverpool and Leverkusen are the favorites based on current performances. AC Milan is a better performing team compared to Leverkusen but this season is not for them as their performance is not good at all this season. Leverkusen and Liverpool have been in the best form this season so it wouldn't be a surprise if either of these two teams were to win, and it wouldn't be a surprise if the two sides met in the final. I would consider Liverpool as favorites for this season at least and if they don't perform too badly then Liverpool could win the Europa League this season.
AC Milan really deserves to be taken into account because after all they are a top European team who have a strong enough mentality on the European stage and also this season AC Milan has good strength even though they are sometimes unable to maintain the consistency of their best performance.
However, if we look overall to be favored to win the Europa League this season of course AC Milan is still below Liverpool and Leverkusen but I always think that in the know out round anything is possible to happen so we can't be too excessive in favoring a team to win. won the Europa League title this season and the season is still quite long and it is possible for all teams to experience improvements or declines in quality.
Yes, it all still has surprises but we have to say realistically that in terms of performance Leverkusen and Liverpool are superior to AC Milan and I never think of underestimating Milan but I will only think in reality Milan has very low consistency and does not have the ability to stabilize the club even though they have top player like Giroud, but the other players are still not ready to win the title at UEL.
But we all don't know what will happen because football is full of surprises and on the one hand, Milan will definitely look for players from the transfer market before the match starts, but there is no guarantee that Milan will be able to compete with Liverpool, but we'll see if there are any big changes. which will happen because the matches at UEL and in the champions league will be very different.

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January 03, 2024, 06:32:35 PM
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This year in Europa League and Conference we dont see so much surprises. So we have two roads ahead, o the competitions still without surprises or all the surprises come now and we are gonna start to see a few big teams choking against weak or smallers teams.

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January 03, 2024, 06:36:52 PM
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AC Milan might be on the list of favorites to win the Europa League title in terms of teams, but Liverpool and Leverkusen are the favorites based on current performances. AC Milan is a better performing team compared to Leverkusen but this season is not for them as their performance is not good at all this season. Leverkusen and Liverpool have been in the best form this season so it wouldn't be a surprise if either of these two teams were to win, and it wouldn't be a surprise if the two sides met in the final. I would consider Liverpool as favorites for this season at least and if they don't perform too badly then Liverpool could win the Europa League this season.
If we want to check by performance, Liverpool has made some poor performance at some point in the Europa which if put to consideration it could be said it's not too safe to see them as favorite to win, AC Milan is yet to show a performance in the Europa so until they do I think we should give them that benefits of doubts.

Even in the champions league AC Milan didn't perform poorly, they had a very tight difference against the second position in their group so I wouldn't consider them poor with their performance except they they are average in their domestic league. Leverkusen is the only team here who has maintained a very good record such that I can say with their present for they are more like the best team for the league title because they have a good squad, a good form and they are consistent aswell so it's very possible they even have better chance then other team in the league.
Liverpool is by far better in my opinion compared to other teams. People can list any team they want, I will still think that Liverpool is the best one. Not only because they do have a great roster, but also because I believe that we are seeing a team that is managed as close to perfect as it can get. Klopp has managed something that not every manager in the world can manage, which is having a system and getting players that fit that system.

Most managers are put in charge and asked to get a good result without getting their own players that would fit their system, some do end up with their favourite players and still fail (like Erik tan hag) but most fail because they are just jumping in midway and not make their changes.

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January 03, 2024, 06:44:45 PM
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We are getting close to Galatasaray Sparta Prag competition and Galatasaray still couldn't solve its inner issues especially with left back and central midfield (aside from Torreira). I am not expecting Galatasaray to easily beat Sparta Prag at this point just because of these observations I got through watching Galatasaray numerous times. I think, the best result Galatasaray can get is draw and close win. I wouldn't even be surprised if Galatasaray loses to Sparta Prag, just like they lost to Kopenhag.

Although we are not completely sure about Galatasaray but yes, the fact is that Galatasaray is still highly favored to win against Sparta Prague later based on the odds. Therefore, maybe we are also affected by such odds, at least it can make us hesitate to choose Sparta Prague to win in this match . But ya, it will be a good result if we remain confident in our personal predictions to keep choosing Sparta Prague, because if Sparta Prague finally manages to beat Galatasaray then of course we will win with good odds too.

But yes, although the odds at this moment Galatasaray is still quite favored but at least, Galatasaray and Sparta Prague maybe also have an equally good chance to be able to qualify from this play off round . Because after all, previously Galatasaray were also very favored compared to Copenhagen but in the end Galatasaray still failed.

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January 03, 2024, 07:02:09 PM
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Yes that's right. Every club has almost the same chance of winning the Europa League title this season, indeed Liverpool is the favorite. However, the atmosphere of the domestic league is very different from the European league, in this competition it is not only the quality of the players that is tested but also the mentality of the players who are very dominant, especially since they have entered the European league. knockout. Of course, in every match you cannot make the slightest mistake, because the pressure of this competition will definitely be different. Strong clubs can lose if they make mistakes, let alone underestimate their opponents.

If they are not good in the domestic league, that is not a benchmark, just look at Sevilla last season, in the league they were down, but in the European league they were very solid so they could win. So in my opinion, becoming a European League champion is not seen from the quality of the players but rather how clever they are at playing a solid game, full of enthusiasm and having a winning mentality of course never giving up.
Any competition in Europe requires not just sweet playing pattern to win and that’s one distincts Liverpool from other teams in that competition. The vast experience of the Liverpool side as we’ve got majority of them involved in number of European successes especially the come back against Barcelona at Anfield which shook the world. This kind of experience is what champions deserve  and Liverpool team isn’t falling short of it.

 Endurance and how to avoid silly mistakes are one characteristics of winners and I think Liverpool have these characteristics more than any but we could see Leverkusen still trying to challenge as they got to the finals last season, well I think the battle for the finals might be amongst these two clubs well let's see how it goes.

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January 03, 2024, 07:38:42 PM
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This year in Europa League and Conference we dont see so much surprises. So we have two roads ahead, o the competitions still without surprises or all the surprises come now and we are gonna start to see a few big teams choking against weak or smallers teams.
We will enjoy and also complain when these average clubs starts to win elite clubs, it will by mistakes but its pure luck. Imagine Brighton eliminating Bayer Leverkusen from the competition? I know none of us will believe but it's just an opinion, we just have to prepare our minds for the worst results. The moment we've been waiting for is getting close, a phase were the the elite clubs will rough handle the mediocre teams without frightening actions. The Europa League is competitive enough and we have top clubs that would generate stellar performance against their opponents.

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January 03, 2024, 07:46:41 PM
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Despite losing two matches, Liverpool managed to stay at the top of the table. That alone is enough. But my point is that the two teams that Liverpool have lost against are much weaker than Liverpool. Another point is that Liverpool did not take these two matches seriously as they faced tougher opponents in the Premier League. So they showed no interest in doing well in the two Europa League matches to perform well in the Premier League. This shows that their main priority is to maintain their performance in the Premier League. That's why I don't consider Liverpool as favorites for the Europa League title. However, Liverpool are still a very strong team. I wouldn't say they have no chance of winning the Europa League title.
Liverpool did everything necessary to win the group, everything else was unimportant for them, these defeats did not affect their results and of course Klopp decided to give the players a rest before more important matches in the Premier League, where they are also in the lead.

Liverpool is one of the EL favorites, but Bayer Leverkusen and Milan are also very good teams, so don’t rush to conclusions. And there is still a lot of time before the final of the tournament, anything can change, injuries, recessions, all this can affect the team.

Or maybe we will see some kind of dark horse, there are enough good teams in this playoff, maybe even Mourinier will be able to reach the final with Roma, he has a lot of experience in this.

It didn't actually happen that they lost a match after Liverpool became champions. Despite winning the first three matches, the team lost the fourth match against Toulouse 3–2. And Liverpool would be group champions if they win or draw against Toulouse. Liverpool's point difference with Toulouse is only 1. If Toulouse had won their last three games, Liverpool would not have won the group. But Toulouse Union drew the match against Saint Gilloise. And so it cannot be said that Liverpool lost on purpose after winning the group.
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I have no doubt that Liverpool are a strong team. However, the three teams Leverkusen, Roma and Milan must be considered strong in the Europa League platform. Galatasaray and Sporting teams are also not to be underestimated. These teams are basically the main rivals of the Europa League. We usually see the Liverpool team performing in the Champions League

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January 03, 2024, 08:16:59 PM
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You are right, when the match starts both teams have the same chance even though in terms of quality there are differences because within 90 minutes many things may happen such as players getting guarded, red cards or also the opposing team being considered weak making different strategies that are difficult to penetrate by the favorite team.
Last season in the European league there was Barcelona who was predicted to be champions but failed because they lost to Manchester United as well as Manchester United was the favorites but were also eliminated because they lost to Sevilla who eventually became champions that season, so even though Liverpool were the favorites it didn't mean they would have easy can get it and it is even very possible to be eliminated because they lost to a team that was not considered capable of doing it, but any team will face a very difficult match when facing Liverpool who are on fire at the moment.

In the normal 90 minutes, each competing team will apply the system instructed by the coach. with different team strengths, of course there will be differences based on the level of play and the course of the match. likewise in terms of opportunities, and all kinds of things. as the competition progresses, something unexpected can happen. one of them, as you said, is for example getting a red card, being fouled at the penalty spot, a player experiencing or getting injured, all of this has the potential to happen to the two teams playing the match. last season Barcelona were favorites, unfortunately several of their players were injured. even though he didn't play too badly, in the end Manchester United was able to overthrow him. at that time, United was also in a positive trend phase. in the match against Sevilla, many United players were injured. plus, several blunders were made by United's defense and De Gea. United collapsed, even though they were predicted to win the title in this competition.

And this applies to Liverpool when they play their match later, especially since Klopp is focusing more on the Premier League. Klopp is well aware that his players cannot suffer injuries, especially the players who are his mainstay. even though Liverpool are favourites, that doesn't mean they will automatically win this trophy. apart from that, there are other teams that are just as strong. plus, they don't have as busy a schedule as Liverpool. or maybe, Brighton is a team that is not the favorite to get to the final of this competition. it could also be Marseile, Leverkusen and even Galatasaray. so far, nothing is certain, especially since the playoffs haven't started yet. I prefer to enjoy everything that is presented, especially crucial matches, rather than predicting something that may not yet happen. I mean, this competition hasn't reached the final stage yet. so, let's just enjoy it.

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January 03, 2024, 08:17:38 PM
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Yes that's right. Every club has almost the same chance of winning the Europa League title this season, indeed Liverpool is the favorite. However, the atmosphere of the domestic league is very different from the European league, in this competition it is not only the quality of the players that is tested but also the mentality of the players who are very dominant, especially since they have entered the European league. knockout. Of course, in every match you cannot make the slightest mistake, because the pressure of this competition will definitely be different. Strong clubs can lose if they make mistakes, let alone underestimate their opponents.

If they are not good in the domestic league, that is not a benchmark, just look at Sevilla last season, in the league they were down, but in the European league they were very solid so they could win. So in my opinion, becoming a European League champion is not seen from the quality of the players but rather how clever they are at playing a solid game, full of enthusiasm and having a winning mentality of course never giving up.
Any competition in Europe requires not just sweet playing pattern to win and that’s one distincts Liverpool from other teams in that competition. The vast experience of the Liverpool side as we’ve got majority of them involved in number of European successes especially the come back against Barcelona at Anfield which shook the world. This kind of experience is what champions deserve  and Liverpool team isn’t falling short of it.

 Endurance and how to avoid silly mistakes are one characteristics of winners and I think Liverpool have these characteristics more than any but we could see Leverkusen still trying to challenge as they got to the finals last season, well I think the battle for the finals might be amongst these two clubs well let's see how it goes.

Experience definitely is an important asset when teams play against each other and in the Champions League Real Madrid has often demonstrated how much experience means when it comes to being successful.

But I think that not having won the trophy can be as valuable because every player on the pitch is willing to go the extra mile to finally win this trophy and this is what I think will make Leverkusen particularly strong. They want titles this season and the Europa League is an important target for them.

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