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Question: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season Winner?  (Voting closed: September 30, 2023, 07:23:36 AM)
Sevilla (if they go down from UCL) - 6 (33.3%)
Other team coming from UCL - 2 (11.1%)
Liverpool - 8 (44.4%)
Roma - 0 (0%)
Villarreal - 1 (5.6%)
Marseille - 0 (0%)
Sporting - 0 (0%)
Other - 1 (5.6%)
Total Voters: 18

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January 19, 2024, 04:36:59 PM
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Failure of De Rossi? He has just been signed for the manager position by Roma. Isn't it too early make such assumptions about him? I know that he came after a great manager like Mourinho. But it doesn't mean that De Rossi can't be more successful than Mourinho at the same time. Nobody can know about that.

Daniele De Rossi is one of the best midfielders in the world, so with that, I can say he is capable of being the manager of As Roma. Although everyone knows that Daniele De Rossi has been playing for As Roma since the year 2001 as a teenager, and he has played for the team with passion for the team, being a manager is not a small deal, but to me, I can say, Let's wait and see how his first game will go against Verona tomorrow. Then we can conclude if he will be a good manager or not. Moreover, you also mentioned the fact that he came after a great manager like Mourinho. which in most circumstances, people tend to be more energetic than their teachers, so I can say that Daniele De Rossi can be more successful than Mourinho.

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I would like to give a great example to this situation. After Villas-Boas period at Chelsea Di Matteo was brought to the position in the 2011/12 season. Who could have thought that he would win the Champions League title with Chelsea in his interim manager period there? 

Exactly. What a great history! Everyone thought that Roberto Di Matteo was not capable, but to the greatest surprise, he tried his best to bring a trophy for Chelsea, which is their first champion league title after beating Bayern Munich 4-3 on penalties.
Actually, you have provided a good example that can determine that Daniele De Rossi can also lead As Roma to bring a trophy home, but we can’t conclude yet until after tomorrow’s game performance.

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January 19, 2024, 06:02:38 PM
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Indeed. Daniele De Rossi has no experience to manage any top team in Europe. I can understand if many people are very doubtful about his ability to manage AS Roma. However, every young manager will always begin with no experience. We must give him the chance to show his ability to be the manager of AS Roma. Since he was a great player, I am sure there is something that he can brings to improve AS Roma performance.

It will be interesting to see what he can bring to Roma, given the fact that it is difficult for me to imagine any Roma coach now who, with the existing set of players, could compete with the big four (obviously the Roma management dreams of this).
By the way, despite the fact that Rossi is the 2006 world champion and in general has an excellent playing career, I doubt that he has a champion mentality - if I'm not mistaken, he has 8 or 9 second places with Roma in Serie A. Now this sounds like an achievement, but just imagine what it’s like to lose the championship race so many times.

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January 19, 2024, 06:24:01 PM
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The cute news of Salah's injury is going to be a set back for Liverpool team and an advantage for others who are also top contenders for the Europa this season, even Leverkusen also have similar case with victor Boniface but I'm their case they have got just but a little dependence on victor than Liverpool does on Salah.

AC Milan is the only top team in the Europa currently with an even team because even Roma is currently having their own fair share of the whole issues as they are battling with the change of coach and trying to get along with their coach so the team gets back to their form, so it's very likely the round of sixteen will definitely going to be a bit though and maybe below expectations because the top teams at this point are having one thing or the other to battle with but then I still trust Liverpool and Leverkusen to be able to maintain their frame and get the best out of the Europa this season.

Salah picked up a hamstring injury near the end of the first half of the Egypt - Ghana match. Klopp said that he had no idea about the extent of Salah's injury yet. I also hope not to see Salah suffering a long-running injury period. Otherwise it is a big issue for Liverpool not only in the Europa League but also in the EPL.

Because I believe they technically have a potential to win both titles this season. But without Salah this is just much more difficult to achieve.

Klopp wanted Salah to be back early at Liverpool but not like this.  Sad

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January 19, 2024, 06:24:48 PM
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The big problem with De Rossi for Rome is one, and that problem is, if he has a bad start you dont have so much time to recover the phase and recover places, because Rome situation right now is also not so good, if you start to lose more terrain and get out of this cup, your season is gonna be a complete failure and maybe without also De Rossi at the end of the season and searching again for a new coach.
Coaches will need a transition period, and that transition period will take time, usually there are coaches who can do it quickly and there are coaches who are slower, and I don't know which type of coach De Rossi is. AS Roma and the supporters must understand this and not be quick to speculate about his quality because once again he does not have much time to get to know what his squad is like.
If they are ultimately eliminated from here, they must accept it gracefully, even though I know that is something that is not desirable at all.
And the most important thing is in Serie A, because there has a longer competition, we can see what Rossi can do there, because they have a schedule every week in Serie A.

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January 19, 2024, 06:28:58 PM
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Indeed. Daniele De Rossi has no experience to manage any top team in Europe. I can understand if many people are very doubtful about his ability to manage AS Roma. However, every young manager will always begin with no experience. We must give him the chance to show his ability to be the manager of AS Roma. Since he was a great player, I am sure there is something that he can brings to improve AS Roma performance.

It will be interesting to see what he can bring to Roma, given the fact that it is difficult for me to imagine any Roma coach now who, with the existing set of players, could compete with the big four (obviously the Roma management dreams of this).
By the way, despite the fact that Rossi is the 2006 world champion and in general has an excellent playing career, I doubt that he has a champion mentality - if I'm not mistaken, he has 8 or 9 second places with Roma in Serie A. Now this sounds like an achievement, but just imagine what it’s like to lose the championship race so many times.
It's difficult but I think the main goal at the moment is not to expect the competition to go further but to focus more on improving their performance which is currently in a chaotic condition.

There are several players who can currently be maximized well by Roma but indeed this depends on whether De Rosi can maximize it well or not.
Currently Dybala, Paredes and Lukaku are actually still quite able to be used well because they are one of the good enough players that Roma have but in the Mou Era some time ago we know that the problem is not from the players but the style of play and the boring scheme because Mou always does a conservative strategy that can be said to have been left behind in the Modern football scheme like now.
If in the end De Rosi can change that I am still quite sure Roma will be able to do better but if De Rosi cannot maximize the current players then the situation like what happened to Napoli will definitely happen to Roma.

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January 19, 2024, 06:45:13 PM
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Salah picked up a hamstring injury near the end of the first half of the Egypt - Ghana match. Klopp said that he had no idea about the extent of Salah's injury yet. I also hope not to see Salah suffering a long-running injury period. Otherwise it is a big issue for Liverpool not only in the Europa League but also in the EPL.

Because I believe they technically have a potential to win both titles this season. But without Salah this is just much more difficult to achieve.

Klopp wanted Salah to be back early at Liverpool but not like this.  Sad

I've discussed this in the Premier League thread. The wrong injury will make Liverpool experience a bad situation in every match. Liverpool will have difficulty competing in the Champions League and will have difficulty winning the Premier League title this season. It is said that Salah suffered a hamstring injury which is an injury that takes quite a long time to recover. I don't know if this news is true or not so cmiiw. If this is true then this will make Liverpool the favorite team to win the Champions and EPL in my personal opinion.

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January 19, 2024, 06:49:01 PM
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The cute news of Salah's injury is going to be a set back for Liverpool team and an advantage for others who are also top contenders for the Europa this season, even Leverkusen also have similar case with victor Boniface but I'm their case they have got just but a little dependence on victor than Liverpool does on Salah.

AC Milan is the only top team in the Europa currently with an even team because even Roma is currently having their own fair share of the whole issues as they are battling with the change of coach and trying to get along with their coach so the team gets back to their form, so it's very likely the round of sixteen will definitely going to be a bit though and maybe below expectations because the top teams at this point are having one thing or the other to battle with but then I still trust Liverpool and Leverkusen to be able to maintain their frame and get the best out of the Europa this season.

I think, about Salah injury it will greatly affect Liverpool's performance in the Premier League because the competition there is very hard. But for Liverpool's chance in the Europa League even without Salah, at least I am still confident that Liverpool and also about Bayer Leverkusen still will have a good chance. But indeed, with injuries wich experienced to key players like that, it is likely that the team will only focus on only one competition and yes, most likely they will only focus on the domestic league because the rotation is not working optimally. But for now, at least I still believe Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen will still try their best to still get good results also in the Europa League.

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January 19, 2024, 07:02:30 PM
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I've discussed this in the Premier League thread. The wrong injury will make Liverpool experience a bad situation in every match. Liverpool will have difficulty competing in the Champions League and will have difficulty winning the Premier League title this season. It is said that Salah suffered a hamstring injury which is an injury that takes quite a long time to recover. I don't know if this news is true or not so cmiiw. If this is true then this will make Liverpool the favorite team to win the Champions and EPL in my personal opinion.

Well, Liverpool is playing in the Europa League not Champions League.
Without Salah, Liverpool definitely will have a problem but it doesnt mean that they are not one of the favorite to win EL and PL.
Liverpool still have Diaz, Nunez, Gakpo and Jota as forwards/attackers.

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January 19, 2024, 07:14:13 PM
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Napoli firing their coach because of management’s policy was quite crazy. Why would you let him go after bringing that trophy home after how many years? Well the club board knows what’s best for them, and i think maybe there was a big disagreement between the manager and board which triggered the departure of their former coach Spalletti.
If management knew what was best for the club then they would not have taken the initiative to fire a coach who was able to give them the title they had been waiting for for so long. But one wrong policy could affect the club to be worse than before and that has proven to be the case with Napoli now.

However, our focus is to Jose and what happens to him next, well I think he’ll be off to Saudi to go get the bag and have peace of mind as that’s what is key to him now because he’s basically written his name in Gold in Europe. As for Roma, I think it’ll be quite a huge struggle going forward.The new coach will have to continue with the philosophy of Jose and see how things goes for him then maybe get his own players to his advantage next season.
It is not yet certain where Jose Mourinho will go although there are rumors that the Saudi Arabian League is a place he might visit. Jose Mourinho had a good career in Europe but his career faded after failing to manage several previous clubs and maybe if he wanted to live a quiet life in the Saudi Arabian League it would be a good place for him to have a career. Roma will experience much worse conditions when a new coach comes with coaching abilities that are not much better than the previous coach and I doubt that Roma will be better under the current new coach.

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January 19, 2024, 07:22:42 PM
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I don't know what the board is thinking, even though they should retain a coach who has made a good contribution and can provide trophies because changing coaches may not necessarily produce the same results as Napoli at the moment. Instead they have experienced a drastic decline after sacking Spalleti and changing 2 coaches since Spalleti's departure but it has not had a significant impact, any problems between the coach and the board should be discussed well and the board should not take decisions that will ultimately destroy the club itself.

Jose Mourinho was fired because perhaps the management felt that Jose Mourinho did not meet their expectations and Roma did not achieve the expected results, whereas perhaps what the board hoped for was that Roma could compete in the Champions League, while Jose Mourinho could only provide competition tickets in the European league, despite Roma's condition. Currently, it is not easy for coaches to build performance and it is true that it takes time which is not for a while.
Well the board has decided and though their decision was a bot cray and irrational. Because they could have looked at Napoli who made some decision and look at what they’re facing currently. Jose gave this Roma team some success rating in hos first 2 seasons and now because of a little decline they let him go. Well i feel this decision will come hunting on them in no time as with the mew coach I don’t think they’ll be able to go beyond the Round of 16 oF the UEL.

 Well he didn’t meet their UCL expectation and that’s why he was fired, I think this time it could be worse because they might not meet any European qualification still then they’ll realize what they’re in for, well I don't wish them bad but I just hope their new coach is equal to the task or would even get them into another UEL finals like José Mourinho did.

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January 19, 2024, 08:00:12 PM
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The cute news of Salah's injury is going to be a set back for Liverpool team and an advantage for others who are also top contenders for the Europa this season, even Leverkusen also have similar case with victor Boniface but I'm their case they have got just but a little dependence on victor than Liverpool does on Salah.

AC Milan is the only top team in the Europa currently with an even team because even Roma is currently having their own fair share of the whole issues as they are battling with the change of coach and trying to get along with their coach so the team gets back to their form, so it's very likely the round of sixteen will definitely going to be a bit though and maybe below expectations because the top teams at this point are having one thing or the other to battle with but then I still trust Liverpool and Leverkusen to be able to maintain their frame and get the best out of the Europa this season.

Ac Milan are gradually going unshackled, they have seen some levels of winnings which has properly taken them to the top of the first three clubs in Seria A.
Just like I always say, they way a club does in his or her domestic league will definitely reflect on the European Competitions they eventually play. With the European Europa League Competition fast coming, it's good to see them buzzing and in a good form. The shouldn't forget their place that they're always big giants when it finally gets to winning European Competitions.

Worry less about Mo Salah, he'll be back before the start of the European Europa League Competition. Klopp doesn't have to shiver.

It was a good move to sack Jose Mourinho, but they should know they didn't back him up properly.  They was never gone win a trophy with that performance.

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January 19, 2024, 08:30:27 PM
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Well, Liverpool is playing in the Europa League not Champions League.
Without Salah, Liverpool definitely will have a problem but it doesnt mean that they are not one of the favorite to win EL and PL.
Liverpool still have Diaz, Nunez, Gakpo and Jota as forwards/attackers.
I've visioned Liverpool to become one of the favourite to reach good positions in Europa League. Liverpool headcoach, Jurgen Klopp have implemented one of the best collective game pattern in Anfield and it have helped them achieve significant titles over these past years. Checking the club's lineup, they have efficient players that can enchanced the performance of the club and bring out the best among the best performance. Liverpool can survived without Mohammed Salah in the squad, they play together and the absence of Salah will not pose any threat.

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Roma didn't get what it wanted from Mourinho in terms of consistent and good results. They are winning sometimes and losing easy games in many times which is pissing Roma owners and the fact that Mourinho always blame the others for the defeat made them more angry.
I don't expect much from De Rossi, he needs to keep the form of the team and try to improve them steadily. This will take some time and luckily for him, his team will have easy games for a month against the last teams in the league before facing Inter Milan then Feyenoord in Europa League.

What is certain is that De Rossi will do his job and start managing AS Roma with the abilities he has. Let's just give him a chance first, even though it could be said that the coach doesn't have much experience. but we also need to remember, every great coach started his career starting from the bottom. currently, it is an opportunity for De Rosi to show his abilities. this week, AS Roma will host Verona's match and also De Rossi's debut with AS Roma. Let's see how he and his team go through the match. Referring to the temporary line-up predictions, the pattern that De Rossi will implement is likely to make Roma experience differences and changes in pattern from the coach before him.

Regarding how he collaborates with his team, we'll see whether De Rossi needs time or if he can adjust what he implements without taking a long time. In fact, before De Rossi became head coach of AS Roma, I'm sure he realized that what he was going to do was not an easy matter. but because De Rossi was willing to accept this job and agreed to become head coach of AS Roma. So like it or not, he has to do his best. especially in the game against Feyenoord. Also, in the Domestic League match when they hosted Inter Milan ahead of the Europa League playoff round. As for Jose Mourinho, now he no longer has any connection with the team from the Italian capital. So, let's find out before De Rossi plays match after match with his new squad in either Serie A or the Europa League.

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I've visioned Liverpool to become one of the favourite to reach good positions in Europa League. Liverpool headcoach, Jurgen Klopp have implemented one of the best collective game pattern in Anfield and it have helped them achieve significant titles over these past years. Checking the club's lineup, they have efficient players that can enchanced the performance of the club and bring out the best among the best performance. Liverpool can survived without Mohammed Salah in the squad, they play together and the absence of Salah will not pose any threat.
Talking about MOH Salah's absence not causing much threat is unagreeable to a very far extent because MOH Salah is like the most creative attacker Liverpool have got and his absence will means less creativity for a chance to get a goal but it doesn't mean Liverpool will not be able to win games in his absence.

Liverpool will definitely win a few games and possibly get to win a trophy aswell but then understanding that MOH Salah been present in the team will mean a lot to Liverpool as it regards their wins, number of goals and even their win rate. There's definitely a good difference between matches where Salah played and that which Salah is absent. Liverpool has got a good squad regardless and can in the meantime cover up for Salah and still make sure the team is able to stay at the top and possibly win the trophy.

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January 19, 2024, 09:30:31 PM
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Salah picked up a hamstring injury near the end of the first half of the Egypt - Ghana match. Klopp said that he had no idea about the extent of Salah's injury yet. I also hope not to see Salah suffering a long-running injury period. Otherwise it is a big issue for Liverpool not only in the Europa League but also in the EPL.

Because I believe they technically have a potential to win both titles this season. But without Salah this is just much more difficult to achieve.

Klopp wanted Salah to be back early at Liverpool but not like this.  Sad

I've discussed this in the Premier League thread. The wrong injury will make Liverpool experience a bad situation in every match. Liverpool will have difficulty competing in the Champions League and will have difficulty winning the Premier League title this season. It is said that Salah suffered a hamstring injury which is an injury that takes quite a long time to recover. I don't know if this news is true or not so cmiiw. If this is true then this will make Liverpool the favorite team to win the Champions and EPL in my personal opinion.
Sorry, I've fixed it. Maybe what you mean is that Liverpool is having difficulty competing in the Europa League, not the Champions League.

This is what Kloop was afraid of, but in the end it happened, that's why in an interview a few days ago he said he wanted Egypt to collapse immediately so they wouldn't qualify for the Africa Cup of Nations final, so he could quickly return to Liverpool. But now Moh Salah is injured, of course this will make Kloop dizzy. The injury suffered by Moh Salah is of course very detrimental to Liverpool at the moment because Liverpool has the ambition to win the EPL League and European League. Without Moh Salah, Liverpool will have difficulty achieving their ambitions. Indeed, currently Liverpool does not only rely on one player, but losing Moh Salah has made them lose strength on the front line and lose fear of their opponents.

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January 19, 2024, 09:40:16 PM
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Salah picked up a hamstring injury near the end of the first half of the Egypt - Ghana match. Klopp said that he had no idea about the extent of Salah's injury yet. I also hope not to see Salah suffering a long-running injury period. Otherwise it is a big issue for Liverpool not only in the Europa League but also in the EPL.

Because I believe they technically have a potential to win both titles this season. But without Salah this is just much more difficult to achieve.

Klopp wanted Salah to be back early at Liverpool but not like this.  Sad

I've discussed this in the Premier League thread. The wrong injury will make Liverpool experience a bad situation in every match. Liverpool will have difficulty competing in the Champions League and will have difficulty winning the Premier League title this season. It is said that Salah suffered a hamstring injury which is an injury that takes quite a long time to recover. I don't know if this news is true or not so cmiiw. If this is true then this will make Liverpool the favorite team to win the Champions and EPL in my personal opinion.
Sorry, I've fixed it. Maybe what you mean is that Liverpool is having difficulty competing in the Europa League, not the Champions League.

This is what Kloop was afraid of, but in the end it happened, that's why in an interview a few days ago he said he wanted Egypt to collapse immediately so they wouldn't qualify for the Africa Cup of Nations final, so he could quickly return to Liverpool. But now Moh Salah is injured, of course this will make Kloop dizzy. The injury suffered by Moh Salah is of course very detrimental to Liverpool at the moment because Liverpool has the ambition to win the EPL League and European League. Without Moh Salah, Liverpool will have difficulty achieving their ambitions. Indeed, currently Liverpool does not only rely on one player, but losing Moh Salah has made them lose strength on the front line and lose fear of their opponents.

Did Klopp really say that? It is really not his style to wish his players the worst with their national teams, it would surprise me if he did. But maybe you can share the interview if you find it. It is not typical for him.

The injury is said to not be serious, but I couldn't find very good and reliable information. But it could soon be over for Egypt anyway if they lose the game against Cape Verde.

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January 19, 2024, 09:41:31 PM
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Indeed. Daniele De Rossi has no experience to manage any top team in Europe. I can understand if many people are very doubtful about his ability to manage AS Roma. However, every young manager will always begin with no experience. We must give him the chance to show his ability to be the manager of AS Roma. Since he was a great player, I am sure there is something that he can brings to improve AS Roma performance.

It will be interesting to see what he can bring to Roma, given the fact that it is difficult for me to imagine any Roma coach now who, with the existing set of players, could compete with the big four (obviously the Roma management dreams of this).
By the way, despite the fact that Rossi is the 2006 world champion and in general has an excellent playing career, I doubt that he has a champion mentality - if I'm not mistaken, he has 8 or 9 second places with Roma in Serie A. Now this sounds like an achievement, but just imagine what it’s like to lose the championship race so many times.
In football, anything can happen although the ability of a coach to push the team to winning is what defines a good coach, and regardless of what the level of the mess with the club, what concern the coach most should be winning at all costs.

That is the reason you see club sacking their coach whenever they failed to deliver the winning in any match, take Chelsea for example, when the club was having crisis, they went forth to employ coach and in next few matches when the coach failed to deliver, the got them sacked from the club and that was it, so the coach is at the center of everything as long as performance in concern with the club/team
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Well the board has decided and though their decision was a bot cray and irrational. Because they could have looked at Napoli who made some decision and look at what they’re facing currently. Jose gave this Roma team some success rating in hos first 2 seasons and now because of a little decline they let him go. Well i feel this decision will come hunting on them in no time as with the mew coach I don’t think they’ll be able to go beyond the Round of 16 oF the UEL.

 Well he didn’t meet their UCL expectation and that’s why he was fired, I think this time it could be worse because they might not meet any European qualification still then they’ll realize what they’re in for, well I don't wish them bad but I just hope their new coach is equal to the task or would even get them into another UEL finals like José Mourinho did.
The potential consequences of the decision will be closely watched by fans and critics alike. It's natural to question the decision to part ways, especially given the abrupt change in management. Firing a manager due to a slight decline in performance may be perceived as a reactive move. While meeting UCL expectations is undoubtedly a priority for ambitious clubs, realistic goals and understanding the competitive landscape dont meet the investment needed. The shift in expectations could indeed come with its own set of challenges for the new coach.

Success in the UEL or securing European qualification would go a long way in justifying the decision to part ways with Mourinho.
Expressing optimism that the new coach is equal to the task shows the importance of giving the new manager time to implement their ideas and strategies. The hope is always that the club's leadership has a long-term vision in mind. Only time will reveal the true impact of the decision.

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Well the board has decided and though their decision was a bot cray and irrational. Because they could have looked at Napoli who made some decision and look at what they’re facing currently. Jose gave this Roma team some success rating in hos first 2 seasons and now because of a little decline they let him go. Well i feel this decision will come hunting on them in no time as with the mew coach I don’t think they’ll be able to go beyond the Round of 16 oF the UEL.

 Well he didn’t meet their UCL expectation and that’s why he was fired, I think this time it could be worse because they might not meet any European qualification still then they’ll realize what they’re in for, well I don't wish them bad but I just hope their new coach is equal to the task or would even get them into another UEL finals like José Mourinho did.
The board's decision made a number of Roma fans not accept it and made many people surprised even though if you think about it Jose Mourinho is not a bad coach for Roma considering that he gave 1 title in his first season and in the second season he almost won the European League title and if only Roma keeping Jose Mourinho at least until the end of the season is not impossible for Roma to finish in the champions league zone because Roma still has a chance considering their ranking is not too far from the top 4 and the point difference is also not too big but unfortunately the Board has made a decision too quickly to terminate the contract with Mourinho and I are not sure the new coach can do better than Jose Mourinho.

With the change of coach, I doubt that Roma will be able to reach the Champions League zone this season because Jose Mourinho, who has a lot of experience, cannot bring Roma to the Champions League, especially with a coach who doesn't have better experience than Mourinho, so I think sooner or later the board will regret this decision. because he was too hasty in making the decision to fire Jose Mourinho.

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January 20, 2024, 09:38:13 AM
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I've visioned Liverpool to become one of the favourite to reach good positions in Europa League. Liverpool headcoach, Jurgen Klopp have implemented one of the best collective game pattern in Anfield and it have helped them achieve significant titles over these past years. Checking the club's lineup, they have efficient players that can enchanced the performance of the club and bring out the best among the best performance. Liverpool can survived without Mohammed Salah in the squad, they play together and the absence of Salah will not pose any threat.

But Salah plays an important role in every Liverpool victory. He can do many things like score goals and provide assists. I see that Salah is also a player who can create opportunities for other players because the opposing defender will mark him so that other players can move more freely. I think Liverpool will struggle without Salah. Their next matches are against Bournemouth and Fulhan in the EPL so we can see how Liverpool play without Salah in the starting XI.

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