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Question: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season Winner?  (Voting closed: September 30, 2023, 07:23:36 AM)
Sevilla (if they go down from UCL) - 6 (33.3%)
Other team coming from UCL - 2 (11.1%)
Liverpool - 8 (44.4%)
Roma - 0 (0%)
Villarreal - 1 (5.6%)
Marseille - 0 (0%)
Sporting - 0 (0%)
Other - 1 (5.6%)
Total Voters: 18

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January 03, 2024, 09:27:00 PM
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50/50 I think is wrong, but the way how some people put it is totally off the rails. When they say that there is no way for anyone to win against Liverpool or Leverkusen, that's rubbish of course. Now in most of the possible matchups I think Liverpool has an advantage, but an advantage isn't equal to an unconditional win. Depending on who they are up against, if it is some of the rather mediocre teams of other leagues, I would guess that Liverpool is more like a 70/30 or 75/25 favorite. This means only that if they played a matchup 40 times, they would win 30 times and lose 10 times. Considering that Liverpool is getting stronger every game, I think they are the favorite in that competition this year.
In the Europa League there are teams that have good quality in their domestic league and when teams from different countries compete it is not easy to predict and there is a very big possibility of surprises and in fact this often happened in previous seasons in the Europa League competition so we cannot Liverpool are too favored by giving a fairly large percentage.
In the know out round, anything is possible and what remains is the best team in Europe, Liverpool does have quite strong strengths but so do other teams, other teams also have strengths and each team certainly has its own different strengths and weaknesses. .

But I think this mostly applies to teams like PSV Eindhoven or teams like Porto and then the best teams from leagues that are less popular than the Eredivisie or the Portuguese league. When you see the record Eindhoven has, it is hard to tell what they will do in the Champions League based on the record they have in their domestic league.

But I think it is a little bit different when a team like Liverpool is the best team in the Premier League at the moment or when Bayer Leverkusen manages to keep the distance between them and Bayern Munich. These facts do mean something and that is why for me these two teams are the favorites.

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January 03, 2024, 10:08:51 PM
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It didn't actually happen that they lost a match after Liverpool became champions. Despite winning the first three matches, the team lost the fourth match against Toulouse 3–2. And Liverpool would be group champions if they win or draw against Toulouse. Liverpool's point difference with Toulouse is only 1. If Toulouse had won their last three games, Liverpool would not have won the group. But Toulouse Union drew the match against Saint Gilloise. And so it cannot be said that Liverpool lost on purpose after winning the group.
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I have no doubt that Liverpool are a strong team. However, the three teams Leverkusen, Roma and Milan must be considered strong in the Europa League platform. Galatasaray and Sporting teams are also not to be underestimated. These teams are basically the main rivals of the Europa League. We usually see the Liverpool team performing in the Champions League
Liverpool yes already secured qualification from the group lest the need for squad rotation which resulted in the loss they had in the group. They’re having a serious challenge domestically for their league and that’s one reason the coach tried the rotation. Well though they still finished top and yes they must be compared as strong contenders for the UEL though we must not take the radar off Leverkusen who are a very young squad with high winning rate; Mourinho’s Roma, as we all know how deep Mourinho is with European titles and the History of Milan and European titles.

 These 4 clubs shouldn’t be overlooked as they could cause problems for Liverpool in this competition. Galatasaray and Sporting might not prove much a threat but are still on the radar. But I believe Liverpool has a vast experience and have a better squad than Milan who have the experience and Leverkusen who have the squad but lacks full experience.

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January 03, 2024, 11:13:20 PM
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This year in Europa League and Conference we dont see so much surprises. So we have two roads ahead, o the competitions still without surprises or all the surprises come now and we are gonna start to see a few big teams choking against weak or smallers teams.
It is still too early to expect some surprises in the Europa League or in the Conference League, because those things will probably happen in the round of 16 and also in the round of eight later in the Europa League and also in the Conference League. So everyone can just enjoy the match as usual here in the Europa League before seeing the surprise that makes a big team eliminated by a small team, but for now I still don't think that that will happen again this season because there are a lot of big teams who will try not to be eliminated so that they can make the competition in the European League this season even fiercer than last season.

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January 03, 2024, 11:27:14 PM
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AC Milan might be on the list of favorites to win the Europa League title in terms of teams, but Liverpool and Leverkusen are the favorites based on current performances. AC Milan is a better performing team compared to Leverkusen but this season is not for them as their performance is not good at all this season. Leverkusen and Liverpool have been in the best form this season so it wouldn't be a surprise if either of these two teams were to win, and it wouldn't be a surprise if the two sides met in the final. I would consider Liverpool as favorites for this season at least and if they don't perform too badly then Liverpool could win the Europa League this season.
AC Milan, Liverpool, and Leverkusen are the favorite teams to win Europa League title. They have quality players on their squad, they also have good experience in international matches. So, no doubt that they are superior against other teams in Europa League. However, we can't underestimate other teams, smaller teams are impossible to eliminate bigger teams. AC Milan and Liverpool performance look not really stable in international matches, they also look not in their best form in domestic leagues. I only see that Leverkusen is the most stable team in the term of performance. So, Leverkusen should be the most favorite team to win the title.


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January 03, 2024, 11:34:03 PM
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AC Milan might be on the list of favorites to win the Europa League title in terms of teams, but Liverpool and Leverkusen are the favorites based on current performances. AC Milan is a better performing team compared to Leverkusen but this season is not for them as their performance is not good at all this season. Leverkusen and Liverpool have been in the best form this season so it wouldn't be a surprise if either of these two teams were to win, and it wouldn't be a surprise if the two sides met in the final. I would consider Liverpool as favorites for this season at least and if they don't perform too badly then Liverpool could win the Europa League this season.
AC Milan, Liverpool, and Leverkusen are the favorite teams to win Europa League title. They have quality players on their squad, they also have good experience in international matches. So, no doubt that they are superior against other teams in Europa League. However, we can't underestimate other teams, smaller teams are impossible to eliminate bigger teams. AC Milan and Liverpool performance look not really stable in international matches, they also look not in their best form in domestic leagues. I only see that Leverkusen is the most stable team in the term of performance. So, Leverkusen should be the most favorite team to win the title.

Smaller team has even small chance to eliminate the bigger team but bigger team is much more favorable to win the game but it doesn't mean it has zero chance to eliminate the big team. The last seas has proven how some small teams were eliminating some big clubs like manchester united or even arsenal. It proves that if the big team don't have guarantee to play better in the europa league caused by the small team can play differently when it was related to the play in european competition.

I would call that if liverpool and leverkusen are the most favorites here. There's no need to mention acmilan caused by it was performing so garbage. Based on my belief, I am of the opinion that the Europa League will be highly competitive in this upcoming season. It's caused by any club was willing to qualify for the UCL.
Winning europa league trophy will give you a way to get there easily. Liverpool and leverkusen are aiming to participate in the UCL next season.

The clubs have set winning the Europa League as an obligation, even though they may not succeed, but they are making an effort to achieve their primary goal.

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Liverpool yes already secured qualification from the group lest the need for squad rotation which resulted in the loss they had in the group. They’re having a serious challenge domestically for their league and that’s one reason the coach tried the rotation. Well though they still finished top and yes they must be compared as strong contenders for the UEL though we must not take the radar off Leverkusen who are a very young squad with high winning rate; Mourinho’s Roma, as we all know how deep Mourinho is with European titles and the History of Milan and European titles.

 These 4 clubs shouldn’t be overlooked as they could cause problems for Liverpool in this competition. Galatasaray and Sporting might not prove much a threat but are still on the radar. But I believe Liverpool has a vast experience and have a better squad than Milan who have the experience and Leverkusen who have the squad but lacks full experience.
It's been a common that Liverpool is a strong contender for the UEFA Europa League with their success in the group stage and their historical prowess in European competitions. But they face strong challenge posed by Leverkusen, Milan and Roma, because all this 3 clubs make Europa League as their priority which could be different from Liverpool.

Bayer Leverkusen have young and high-winning-rate squad. Roma have Mourinho with his European titles pedigree. Milan have historical strength in European competitions. These facts demonstrate a thorough understanding of the potential challenges Liverpool may face, and make them noteworthy competitors. Experience can be a crucial factor in navigating the different stages of the Europa League, especially when facing tough opponents in later rounds.

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January 04, 2024, 04:34:37 AM
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AC Milan might be on the list of favorites to win the Europa League title in terms of teams, but Liverpool and Leverkusen are the favorites based on current performances. AC Milan is a better performing team compared to Leverkusen but this season is not for them as their performance is not good at all this season. Leverkusen and Liverpool have been in the best form this season so it wouldn't be a surprise if either of these two teams were to win, and it wouldn't be a surprise if the two sides met in the final. I would consider Liverpool as favorites for this season at least and if they don't perform too badly then Liverpool could win the Europa League this season.
AC Milan really deserves to be taken into account because after all they are a top European team who have a strong enough mentality on the European stage and also this season AC Milan has good strength even though they are sometimes unable to maintain the consistency of their best performance.
However, if we look overall to be favored to win the Europa League this season of course AC Milan is still below Liverpool and Leverkusen but I always think that in the know out round anything is possible to happen so we can't be too excessive in favoring a team to win. won the Europa League title this season and the season is still quite long and it is possible for all teams to experience improvements or declines in quality.
AC Milan is a consistent performing team but their problem is that they cannot perform consistently in important matches. Where other teams perform exceptionally well in important matches, AC Milan are unable to perform consistently, due to which they are left out in most major tournaments with great potential. If Liverpool had qualified for the Champions League this season, AC Milan would have had the chance to play in the finals, but it's unfortunate for AC Milan that Liverpool are playing in the Europa League this season while Leverkusen are having their best time. Maybe that's why AC Milan won't do very well in the Europa League this season.

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January 04, 2024, 07:14:26 AM
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AC Milan might be on the list of favorites to win the Europa League title in terms of teams, but Liverpool and Leverkusen are the favorites based on current performances. AC Milan is a better performing team compared to Leverkusen but this season is not for them as their performance is not good at all this season. Leverkusen and Liverpool have been in the best form this season so it wouldn't be a surprise if either of these two teams were to win, and it wouldn't be a surprise if the two sides met in the final. I would consider Liverpool as favorites for this season at least and if they don't perform too badly then Liverpool could win the Europa League this season.
AC Milan, Liverpool, and Leverkusen are the favorite teams to win Europa League title. They have quality players on their squad, they also have good experience in international matches. So, no doubt that they are superior against other teams in Europa League. However, we can't underestimate other teams, smaller teams are impossible to eliminate bigger teams. AC Milan and Liverpool performance look not really stable in international matches, they also look not in their best form in domestic leagues. I only see that Leverkusen is the most stable team in the term of performance. So, Leverkusen should be the most favorite team to win the title.


I doubt Milan's performance. I'm not sure if Milan can win the European League title because in my opinion the clubs that are more favorite are Liverpool and Leverkusen. Indeed, in terms of squad, Milan and Liverpool are superior because they have top players compared to Leverkusen, but the players Leverkusen are able to work together well and compactly so that their solidarity is very high and indeed so far the performance of the Leverkusen players is still extraordinary under the guidance of Xabi Alonso so in my opinion it is possible that Leverkusen will be favorites in winning the title this season, whether it is the league trophy Europe or the Bundesliga.

If you talk about Milan not being very stable, I think that's right, but if you say Liverpool is not very stable, I think you are wrong because Liverpool is still quite stable in the domestic league, even they are in 1st place with only 1 defeat so far, and It is true that Leverkusen is still quite consistent and unbeaten to date and that is a good achievement.

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January 04, 2024, 07:33:22 AM
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AC Milan might be on the list of favorites to win the Europa League title in terms of teams, but Liverpool and Leverkusen are the favorites based on current performances. AC Milan is a better performing team compared to Leverkusen but this season is not for them as their performance is not good at all this season. Leverkusen and Liverpool have been in the best form this season so it wouldn't be a surprise if either of these two teams were to win, and it wouldn't be a surprise if the two sides met in the final. I would consider Liverpool as favorites for this season at least and if they don't perform too badly then Liverpool could win the Europa League this season.
AC Milan, Liverpool, and Leverkusen are the favorite teams to win Europa League title. They have quality players on their squad, they also have good experience in international matches. So, no doubt that they are superior against other teams in Europa League. However, we can't underestimate other teams, smaller teams are impossible to eliminate bigger teams. AC Milan and Liverpool performance look not really stable in international matches, they also look not in their best form in domestic leagues. I only see that Leverkusen is the most stable team in the term of performance. So, Leverkusen should be the most favorite team to win the title.


I doubt Milan's performance. I'm not sure if Milan can win the European League title because in my opinion the clubs that are more favorite are Liverpool and Leverkusen. Indeed, in terms of squad, Milan and Liverpool are superior because they have top players compared to Leverkusen, but the players Leverkusen are able to work together well and compactly so that their solidarity is very high and indeed so far the performance of the Leverkusen players is still extraordinary under the guidance of Xabi Alonso so in my opinion it is possible that Leverkusen will be favorites in winning the title this season, whether it is the league trophy Europe or the Bundesliga.

If you talk about Milan not being very stable, I think that's right, but if you say Liverpool is not very stable, I think you are wrong because Liverpool is still quite stable in the domestic league, even they are in 1st place with only 1 defeat so far, and It is true that Leverkusen is still quite consistent and unbeaten to date and that is a good achievement.
Historically speaking, AC Milan is one of the most successful European clubs and that I think also gives them a little advantage over some of the teams in the UEFA Europa League competition this season but I still don't see them as one of the first two favorite teams that can win the competition this season season. Considering the current performance of all the teams in the competition, I think there's no doubt to the fact that the top performing teams the competition this season are German club Bayer Leverkusen and English Premier League side Liverpool.

The two teams are not just doing well in the Europa League competition but are currently topping their respective leagues and that I think goes a long way to tell how consistent they've been this season. The two clubs are currently flying high and determined to finish the season on a high and winning the Europa League trophy is definitely one of their top targets. I'm not saying that they're definitely gonna win it but I'm saying that they're undoubtedly the best two sides in the competition at the moment.

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January 04, 2024, 07:54:34 AM
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AC Milan might be on the list of favorites to win the Europa League title in terms of teams, but Liverpool and Leverkusen are the favorites based on current performances. AC Milan is a better performing team compared to Leverkusen but this season is not for them as their performance is not good at all this season. Leverkusen and Liverpool have been in the best form this season so it wouldn't be a surprise if either of these two teams were to win, and it wouldn't be a surprise if the two sides met in the final. I would consider Liverpool as favorites for this season at least and if they don't perform too badly then Liverpool could win the Europa League this season.
AC Milan, Liverpool, and Leverkusen are the favorite teams to win Europa League title. They have quality players on their squad, they also have good experience in international matches. So, no doubt that they are superior against other teams in Europa League. However, we can't underestimate other teams, smaller teams are impossible to eliminate bigger teams. AC Milan and Liverpool performance look not really stable in international matches, they also look not in their best form in domestic leagues. I only see that Leverkusen is the most stable team in the term of performance. So, Leverkusen should be the most favorite team to win the title.


I will now not put Milan in a hurry to be a candidate for the current championship because seeing from what happened there are still a few steps they have to show that they are suitable to be declared as a strong candidate for the current championship.
Milan still have to undergo Play Offs to get into the current round of 16 even though the opponent is Rennes who is definitely not too favored but of course this will also not be easy for Milan even though many still believe that Rennes will not be able to face Milan but I think it would be very naive if it was said to be an easy match.

In addition, we also still have to wait for the drawing too because even if Milan later passes the drawing will certainly be very decisive to say they are strong candidates so that until today I still see only Leverkusen and Liverpool who are still safe in probability as for Milan today they still have to be able to prove even if in the end they qualify, surely their probability will be strong and as proof that they have a great chance of winning. 

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January 04, 2024, 07:59:17 AM
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This year in Europa League and Conference we dont see so much surprises. So we have two roads ahead, o the competitions still without surprises or all the surprises come now and we are gonna start to see a few big teams choking against weak or smallers teams.
It is still too early to expect some surprises in the Europa League or in the Conference League, because those things will probably happen in the round of 16 and also in the round of eight later in the Europa League and also in the Conference League. So everyone can just enjoy the match as usual here in the Europa League before seeing the surprise that makes a big team eliminated by a small team, but for now I still don't think that that will happen again this season because there are a lot of big teams who will try not to be eliminated so that they can make the competition in the European League this season even fiercer than last season.
Of course, there is excitement in the European league this year, but many of the teams eliminated from the Champions League will advance to the next round. I think Feyenoord-Roma and Shakhtar-Marseille matches will be uncertain. Those matches will be a battle of equal forces. Maybe Sporting Lisbon will continue from the European league because they are paired with Young Boys and Young Boys may lose to Lisbon.

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January 04, 2024, 08:11:58 AM
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AC Milan might be on the list of favorites to win the Europa League title in terms of teams, but Liverpool and Leverkusen are the favorites based on current performances. AC Milan is a better performing team compared to Leverkusen but this season is not for them as their performance is not good at all this season. Leverkusen and Liverpool have been in the best form this season so it wouldn't be a surprise if either of these two teams were to win, and it wouldn't be a surprise if the two sides met in the final. I would consider Liverpool as favorites for this season at least and if they don't perform too badly then Liverpool could win the Europa League this season.
AC Milan, Liverpool, and Leverkusen are the favorite teams to win Europa League title. They have quality players on their squad, they also have good experience in international matches. So, no doubt that they are superior against other teams in Europa League. However, we can't underestimate other teams, smaller teams are impossible to eliminate bigger teams. AC Milan and Liverpool performance look not really stable in international matches, they also look not in their best form in domestic leagues. I only see that Leverkusen is the most stable team in the term of performance. So, Leverkusen should be the most favorite team to win the title.


I doubt Milan's performance. I'm not sure if Milan can win the European League title because in my opinion the clubs that are more favorite are Liverpool and Leverkusen. Indeed, in terms of squad, Milan and Liverpool are superior because they have top players compared to Leverkusen, but the players Leverkusen are able to work together well and compactly so that their solidarity is very high and indeed so far the performance of the Leverkusen players is still extraordinary under the guidance of Xabi Alonso so in my opinion it is possible that Leverkusen will be favorites in winning the title this season, whether it is the league trophy Europe or the Bundesliga.

If you talk about Milan not being very stable, I think that's right, but if you say Liverpool is not very stable, I think you are wrong because Liverpool is still quite stable in the domestic league, even they are in 1st place with only 1 defeat so far, and It is true that Leverkusen is still quite consistent and unbeaten to date and that is a good achievement.
Historically speaking, AC Milan is one of the most successful European clubs and that I think also gives them a little advantage over some of the teams in the UEFA Europa League competition this season but I still don't see them as one of the first two favorite teams that can win the competition this season season. Considering the current performance of all the teams in the competition, I think there's no doubt to the fact that the top performing teams the competition this season are German club Bayer Leverkusen and English Premier League side Liverpool.

The two teams are not just doing well in the Europa League competition but are currently topping their respective leagues and that I think goes a long way to tell how consistent they've been this season. The two clubs are currently flying high and determined to finish the season on a high and winning the Europa League trophy is definitely one of their top targets. I'm not saying that they're definitely gonna win it but I'm saying that they're undoubtedly the best two sides in the competition at the moment.

Ac Milan to be honest have disappointed lots in the Champions League for the second time, if I should personalize it, I have expected them to go further than group stage, infact I must say they're the worst side in that group F, if I can remember I didn't give them enough support. I wanted to see Newcastle rise cause they came from the Premier League but they failed to win Borrussia Dortmund during their home game first.

Anyways, they're big sides in the European Competitions and they have seen a massive levels of rise within the last two games. Well, we shall see how far they go.

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January 04, 2024, 08:32:16 AM
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Ac Milan to be honest have disappointed lots in the Champions League for the second time, if I should personalize it, I have expected them to go further than group stage, infact I must say they're the worst side in that group F, if I can remember I didn't give them enough support. I wanted to see Newcastle rise cause they came from the Premier League but they failed to win Borrussia Dortmund during their home game first.

Anyways, they're big sides in the European Competitions and they have seen a massive levels of rise within the last two games. Well, we shall see how far they go.

AC Milan had 21 points after 8 games in Serie A. But then they significantly dropped in performance and nothing really changed within their team as far as I remember. I think they didn't have any severe injuries or did they? But their performance was out of balance, the strikers didn't strike anymore as they did at the beginning of the season.

I still think they have a word to say when it comes to the Europa League title, but given what their current shape is I would not count them as a top favorite. That doesn't mean they are an underdog, but more in the upper 20% of the competition.

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January 04, 2024, 08:49:17 AM
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It is still too early to expect some surprises in the Europa League or in the Conference League, because those things will probably happen in the round of 16 and also in the round of eight later in the Europa League and also in the Conference League. So everyone can just enjoy the match as usual here in the Europa League before seeing the surprise that makes a big team eliminated by a small team, but for now I still don't think that that will happen again this season because there are a lot of big teams who will try not to be eliminated so that they can make the competition in the European League this season even fiercer than last season.

Yes I agree with you. Currently the Champions League and European leagues are on holiday for several weeks. We can't expect any surprises from the group stage. Because so far those who have qualified for the round of 16 are the teams that were predicted to qualify from the start. Although there are some small changes such as Copenhagen qualifying ahead of Galatasaray but the real surprise could happen in the last 16 and subsequent rounds. I'm looking forward to some interesting matches in the European League and Champions League. Can't wait for February.

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January 04, 2024, 01:53:58 PM
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AC Milan, Liverpool, and Leverkusen are the favorite teams to win Europa League title. They have quality players on their squad, they also have good experience in international matches. So, no doubt that they are superior against other teams in Europa League. However, we can't underestimate other teams, smaller teams are impossible to eliminate bigger teams. AC Milan and Liverpool performance look not really stable in international matches, they also look not in their best form in domestic leagues. I only see that Leverkusen is the most stable team in the term of performance. So, Leverkusen should be the most favorite team to win the title.

In fact, bookmakers do not consider Milan one of the main favorites, look:

Liverpool 3.09

Bayer Leverkusen 5.88

Milan 10.29

Brighton 12.74

West Ham 14.70

Roma 16.66

As you can see, there are two main favorites: Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen, and a second group of contenders, which includes Milan. It is noteworthy that the second group consists of two Italian teams and two English ones. Overall, at least for now, the season is going well for Italian clubs again. Quite surprising considering that Serie A lags far behind other top leagues in terms of finances.

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January 04, 2024, 02:53:42 PM
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It is still too early to expect some surprises in the Europa League or in the Conference League, because those things will probably happen in the round of 16 and also in the round of eight later in the Europa League and also in the Conference League. So everyone can just enjoy the match as usual here in the Europa League before seeing the surprise that makes a big team eliminated by a small team, but for now I still don't think that that will happen again this season because there are a lot of big teams who will try not to be eliminated so that they can make the competition in the European League this season even fiercer than last season.

Yes I agree with you. Currently the Champions League and European leagues are on holiday for several weeks. We can't expect any surprises from the group stage. Because so far those who have qualified for the round of 16 are the teams that were predicted to qualify from the start. Although there are some small changes such as Copenhagen qualifying ahead of Galatasaray but the real surprise could happen in the last 16 and subsequent rounds. I'm looking forward to some interesting matches in the European League and Champions League. Can't wait for February.
Yes, we must first wait for the Europa League to resume after completing the grueling group stages. I think speculation about surprises is valid as long as you don't say for sure things that haven't been played yet. Now many people also expect Leverkusen and Liverpool to face each other in the final, it's just an expectation based on their performances during the Europa League, especially in the group stages.
We will still have the play offs before the last 16 is played, and the play offs are also likely to be a surprise. There are still many big clubs that will play there, and not to forget there are some clubs from the Champions League that will also play there. From the Champions League itself there are several clubs that are superior like AC Milan that we cannot forget.

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January 04, 2024, 04:28:00 PM
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It is still too early to expect some surprises in the Europa League or in the Conference League, because those things will probably happen in the round of 16 and also in the round of eight later in the Europa League and also in the Conference League. So everyone can just enjoy the match as usual here in the Europa League before seeing the surprise that makes a big team eliminated by a small team, but for now I still don't think that that will happen again this season because there are a lot of big teams who will try not to be eliminated so that they can make the competition in the European League this season even fiercer than last season.

Yes I agree with you. Currently the Champions League and European leagues are on holiday for several weeks. We can't expect any surprises from the group stage. Because so far those who have qualified for the round of 16 are the teams that were predicted to qualify from the start. Although there are some small changes such as Copenhagen qualifying ahead of Galatasaray but the real surprise could happen in the last 16 and subsequent rounds. I'm looking forward to some interesting matches in the European League and Champions League. Can't wait for February.
Yes, we must first wait for the Europa League to resume after completing the grueling group stages. I think speculation about surprises is valid as long as you don't say for sure things that haven't been played yet. Now many people also expect Leverkusen and Liverpool to face each other in the final, it's just an expectation based on their performances during the Europa League, especially in the group stages.
We will still have the play offs before the last 16 is played, and the play offs are also likely to be a surprise. There are still many big clubs that will play there, and not to forget there are some clubs from the Champions League that will also play there. From the Champions League itself there are several clubs that are superior like AC Milan that we cannot forget.

Awaiting any two teams to be up against each other in the Europa League final is dumb because nobody can predict whether they will be eliminated before the final and nobody can predict whether they will eliminate each other before the final. As if anyone had an idea what the draw for the quarterfinals and semifinals will look like. There is no point in speculating about the two clubs that may reach the final.

I don't know if I get the statistics right here so feel free to correct me, but the chance that Liverpool plays against Leverkusen in the quarterfinal is around 14% (assuming they both get there) and the chance that they meet in the semifinal is 33% (assuming they both get there). This means we have a chance of 86% * 67% = 58% that they both play the final if they make it there. Of that 58% chance you can deduct the probability that they get eliminated by some other team and then you will probably end up somewhere around 10 - 15% at best. 

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January 04, 2024, 04:40:35 PM
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It is still too early to expect some surprises in the Europa League or in the Conference League, because those things will probably happen in the round of 16 and also in the round of eight later in the Europa League and also in the Conference League. So everyone can just enjoy the match as usual here in the Europa League before seeing the surprise that makes a big team eliminated by a small team, but for now I still don't think that that will happen again this season because there are a lot of big teams who will try not to be eliminated so that they can make the competition in the European League this season even fiercer than last season.

Yes I agree with you. Currently the Champions League and European leagues are on holiday for several weeks. We can't expect any surprises from the group stage. Because so far those who have qualified for the round of 16 are the teams that were predicted to qualify from the start. Although there are some small changes such as Copenhagen qualifying ahead of Galatasaray but the real surprise could happen in the last 16 and subsequent rounds. I'm looking forward to some interesting matches in the European League and Champions League. Can't wait for February.
Yes, we must first wait for the Europa League to resume after completing the grueling group stages. I think speculation about surprises is valid as long as you don't say for sure things that haven't been played yet. Now many people also expect Leverkusen and Liverpool to face each other in the final, it's just an expectation based on their performances during the Europa League, especially in the group stages.
We will still have the play offs before the last 16 is played, and the play offs are also likely to be a surprise. There are still many big clubs that will play there, and not to forget there are some clubs from the Champions League that will also play there. From the Champions League itself there are several clubs that are superior like AC Milan that we cannot forget.

Awaiting any two teams to be up against each other in the Europa League final is dumb because nobody can predict whether they will be eliminated before the final and nobody can predict whether they will eliminate each other before the final. As if anyone had an idea what the draw for the quarterfinals and semifinals will look like. There is no point in speculating about the two clubs that may reach the final.

I don't know if I get the statistics right here so feel free to correct me, but the chance that Liverpool plays against Leverkusen in the quarterfinal is around 14% (assuming they both get there) and the chance that they meet in the semifinal is 33% (assuming they both get there). This means we have a chance of 86% * 67% = 58% that they both play the final if they make it there. Of that 58% chance you can deduct the probability that they get eliminated by some other team and then you will probably end up somewhere around 10 - 15% at best. 

We can still have some predictions considering how the general trend of Europa League had been and how the performance of each individual team are in local and international perspective.
Villarreal and Liverpool are surely the favorite ones. It's a rare occasion for Europa cup going anywhere except Premier league or La Liga teams.
But Leverkusen is a rare success this time. Not just due to their success in the group stage but also how they are performing this season in the bundesliga. They are certainly going to be promoted to the UEFA cup this year.


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January 04, 2024, 05:30:35 PM
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It is still too early to expect some surprises in the Europa League or in the Conference League, because those things will probably happen in the round of 16 and also in the round of eight later in the Europa League and also in the Conference League. So everyone can just enjoy the match as usual here in the Europa League before seeing the surprise that makes a big team eliminated by a small team, but for now I still don't think that that will happen again this season because there are a lot of big teams who will try not to be eliminated so that they can make the competition in the European League this season even fiercer than last season.

The biggest teams in the tournament have left but teams like Betis, Ajax, and Olympiakos have all left the tournament in the group stage. As I said, these teams are not the best, but they're certainly better than some teams that have qualified, meaning in this current round, some big teams would be eliminated. It could be one or two but big teams would be eliminated.
We saw teams like Manchester United get eliminated in the group stage of the UCL and they couldn't even make it to the Europa League, that's what football is about. PSG were lucky enough to remain in the group stage.

What I can say is too early to predict at this stage of the Europa League is the winner. Some people have already begun interpreting the finals and the winners, but it is still too early.
I believe all the highest favorite teams would be eliminated.

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January 04, 2024, 05:31:28 PM
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I doubt Milan's performance. I'm not sure if Milan can win the European League title because in my opinion the clubs that are more favorite are Liverpool and Leverkusen. Indeed, in terms of squad, Milan and Liverpool are superior because they have top players compared to Leverkusen, but the players Leverkusen are able to work together well and compactly so that their solidarity is very high and indeed so far the performance of the Leverkusen players is still extraordinary under the guidance of Xabi Alonso so in my opinion it is possible that Leverkusen will be favorites in winning the title this season, whether it is the league trophy Europe or the Bundesliga.

If you talk about Milan not being very stable, I think that's right, but if you say Liverpool is not very stable, I think you are wrong because Liverpool is still quite stable in the domestic league, even they are in 1st place with only 1 defeat so far, and It is true that Leverkusen is still quite consistent and unbeaten to date and that is a good achievement.
Milan are currently a shadow of themselves and they don’t come close to the likes of Liverpool and Leverkusen in terms of squad strength and composure as compared to these 2. Liverpool have the experience while Leverkusen have more fluidity with the ball and that’s a plus for them. Now when you want to compare Milan squad, you can put that this Milan squad suffers injury crisis and that’s one reason they got of the UCL to the UEL and also they’ll be having crazy time trying to fight for a safe spot in their league. But Liverpool and Leverkusen are sitting pretty comfortably on top of their various leagues.

 These clubs have already secured top spot and would fight evenly for the UEL as compared to how Milan might want to put up a fight. Well football has it’s own surprises and that’s always after 90 minutes we can just analyze and the players do the work,  let's watch and see what Milan have to offer in the UEL.

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