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Question: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season Winner?  (Voting closed: September 30, 2023, 07:23:36 AM)
Sevilla (if they go down from UCL) - 6 (33.3%)
Other team coming from UCL - 2 (11.1%)
Liverpool - 8 (44.4%)
Roma - 0 (0%)
Villarreal - 1 (5.6%)
Marseille - 0 (0%)
Sporting - 0 (0%)
Other - 1 (5.6%)
Total Voters: 18

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January 05, 2024, 07:54:29 AM
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I have read a few articles which are quite interesting as they are discussing whether Xabi Alonso will become the next Pep Guardiola. I am not a friend of these person to person comparisons because at the end of the day nobody can become somebody else. I get the idea why they want to compare the two coaches, but it doesn't make that much sense as I think Alonso is a different personality to begin with. They are not the same. I am not sure how tactical Alonso is and whether he goes into such a deep detail as Guardiola does.

But one thing is for sure, if Alonso can win the Bundesliga and then adds the Europa League title to his collection as a coach at such a young age, that would by any means be a crazy head start for the Spaniard. Since I like him, I wish him the best for this ambitious goal.
Bayer Leverkusen first spot, they have the Bundesliga title on their mind and it will be hugh dissapointement if at the end of the 2023/2024 Bundesliga campaign, they failed to win the title, everything fall apart, and they will be left with nothing to think about other than frustration and deep regrets, just like the scenario that happen to Borrusia Dortmund the previous season, they gave up really bad and that's one fight that was invalid. Xabi Alonso doing an incredible job for Bayer Leverkusen this season, they remained unbeaten and this is not a slight issue but a ready full combat.

No no no Cheesy You are exaggerating this massively! If they were to become second let's say, it wouldn't be a huge disappointment and no, not everything falls apart and they will not be left with nothing. They are doing some great work and they are building a great team with future potential. Let's see what the situation is at the end of the season. If they lead the table and lose the title on the last day like Borussia Dortmund did, then everything you said is true. But if Bayern outcompetes them and Leverkusen finishes the season with more than 80 points and yet don't win the title, it was still a great performance they can build the next season upon. You are talking about disaster only. But they are from that.

The Europa League will keep them motivated as this would be the cherry on top of everything else. Assuming they become second in the Bundesliga closely behind Bayern and win the Europa League, it would have been a fabulous season for them knowing where they are coming from.

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January 05, 2024, 08:14:10 AM
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No no no Cheesy You are exaggerating this massively! If they were to become second let's say, it wouldn't be a huge disappointment and no, not everything falls apart and they will not be left with nothing. They are doing some great work and they are building a great team with future potential. Let's see what the situation is at the end of the season. If they lead the table and lose the title on the last day like Borussia Dortmund did, then everything you said is true. But if Bayern outcompetes them and Leverkusen finishes the season with more than 80 points and yet don't win the title, it was still a great performance they can build the next season upon. You are talking about disaster only. But they are from that.

The Europa League will keep them motivated as this would be the cherry on top of everything else. Assuming they become second in the Bundesliga closely behind Bayern and win the Europa League, it would have been a fabulous season for them knowing where they are coming from.
That's right, we also have to look realistically at where they come from before determining their level of success.
If Leverkusen does not win the Bundesliga this season it will not be a big disappointment for them because realistically they are still below Bayern in terms of strength and finances if that is normal.
And so far what they have shown in the Europa League is extraordinary, they are still unbeaten and if no surprises or bad things happen to them then it is possible that they will progress further in the Europa League this season.
Regardless of whether they succeed or not in winning the Europa League this season, I think this team has developed much better this season.

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January 05, 2024, 08:22:12 AM
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We can still have some predictions considering how the general trend of Europa League had been and how the performance of each individual team are in local and international perspective.
Villarreal and Liverpool are surely the favorite ones. It's a rare occasion for Europa cup going anywhere except Premier league or La Liga teams.
But Leverkusen is a rare success this time. Not just due to their success in the group stage but also how they are performing this season in the bundesliga. They are certainly going to be promoted to the UEFA cup this year.

Villareal, this is the first time I hear someone mentioning Villareal as the main favorite next to Liverpool. Really, I appreciate that you have an opinion nobody else has had so far. I don't think Villareal is a favorite, but I would also not describe them as a weak team or an underdog. They are more like average similar to many of the other teams.
That's strange, really really strange to see that if someone was favoring villarela which was performing like a mediocre team in la liga. I have been watching the latest game against valencia and i would say if villarela shall not be favored as candidate to win europa league.
We have so many skilled teams and it doesn't even make sense to see that villareal had been picked as a favorite to win the game. It never happens before. I must say the fact that if villareal was a weak team.
Did you watch it when valencia was beating it? Villareal played like a mediocre club. I can't even believe it there was someone who favored villareal to win the competition which is very very new for me.

Leverkusen has gathered some experience in the last season in the Europa League and I think this time it could really be their turn to go one step further and reach the final hopefully.

Leverkusen failed last season and roma but these clubs learnt a lot from their past mistakes. Im still seeing leverkusen and roma as the strongest candidate to win the competition. Liverpool can be considered as a special participant as it must be on UCL's level.
A bit surprised to see that how manchester united took UCL spot from liverpool's hand dramatically. The only problem if salah will be gone for several weeks caused by he must be participating in the AFCON which will make liverpool lose one of its main player this season. Im still feeling good with liverpool but it's not convincin me to say liverpool to win the game without salah.

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January 05, 2024, 09:33:49 AM
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That's right, we also have to look realistically at where they come from before determining their level of success.
If Leverkusen does not win the Bundesliga this season it will not be a big disappointment for them because realistically they are still below Bayern in terms of strength and finances if that is normal.
And so far what they have shown in the Europa League is extraordinary, they are still unbeaten and if no surprises or bad things happen to them then it is possible that they will progress further in the Europa League this season.
Regardless of whether they succeed or not in winning the Europa League this season, I think this team has developed much better this season.
Yeah Leverkusen is a mediocre team, no one expect them can going so far, even though they perform better than Liverpool and Bayern Munich. But the vast majority still believe Bayern Munich will win Bundesliga, just like they won 10 seasons in a row, while Liverpool is playing in Premier League, which more competitive than Bundesliga.

But I believe Leverkusen can win at least one league, I feel they have better chance in Europa League than Bundesliga.

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January 05, 2024, 11:26:47 AM
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I understand your perspective on person-to-person comparisons and how it can be difficult for someone to become another person. Xabi Alonso and Pep Guardiola are indeed different personalities, and it's unclear how tactical Alonso is compared to Guardiola. As for winning the Bundesliga and the Europa League title at a young age, it would definitely be an impressive achievement for Alonso.
Now, precisely this season, Alonso will also lead the team he is currently coaching to win the European League title in addition to his own domestic league. Because the team managed by Alonso currently, namely Leverkusen, has also experienced increased performance in the domestic league and also has the potential to become the best in the European League this season if Leverkusen is able to compete with other big teams such as Liverpool and also several other teams.

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January 05, 2024, 11:45:40 AM
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Now, precisely this season, Alonso will also lead the team he is currently coaching to win the European League title in addition to his own domestic league. Because the team managed by Alonso currently, namely Leverkusen, has also experienced increased performance in the domestic league and also has the potential to become the best in the European League this season if Leverkusen is able to compete with other big teams such as Liverpool and also several other teams.

Yep Xabi has an impressive record, after 40 years Sociedad B team able to promote to the segunda division under Xabi.
Leverkusen is on the right track to win the Bundesliga, Europa Lague and DFB Pokal with 26 unbeaten games in this season with only 3 draws.
Im sure we will see Leverkusen in the EL final.

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January 05, 2024, 12:18:06 PM
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I understand your perspective on person-to-person comparisons and how it can be difficult for someone to become another person. Xabi Alonso and Pep Guardiola are indeed different personalities, and it's unclear how tactical Alonso is compared to Guardiola. As for winning the Bundesliga and the Europa League title at a young age, it would definitely be an impressive achievement for Alonso.
Now, precisely this season, Alonso will also lead the team he is currently coaching to win the European League title in addition to his own domestic league. Because the team managed by Alonso currently, namely Leverkusen, has also experienced increased performance in the domestic league and also has the potential to become the best in the European League this season if Leverkusen is able to compete with other big teams such as Liverpool and also several other teams.
Comparing 2 different people in my opinion is something that is difficult to do, they have their own weaknesses and strengths, especially if we talk about a coach who will definitely have different thoughts and philosophies. Pep Guardiola has proven that he is a quality coach with a lot of experience he has. Xabi Alonso is a coach who can be said to be new and not much experience, but he can show the current performance with Leverkusen, in my opinion it is something extraordinary. I think he should be more courageous to challenge himself to handle a new team with greater pressure than the current Bundesliga.

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January 05, 2024, 12:47:27 PM
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Yeah Leverkusen is a mediocre team, no one expect them can going so far, even though they perform better than Liverpool and Bayern Munich. But the vast majority still believe Bayern Munich will win Bundesliga, just like they won 10 seasons in a row, while Liverpool is playing in Premier League, which more competitive than Bundesliga.

But I believe Leverkusen can win at least one league, I feel they have better chance in Europa League than Bundesliga.
Leverkusen like I usually say are the big surprise of Europe this season. Like this team have a managed to stay unbeaten in over 5 months, that’s a big applaud for them. I think this is already bringing feathers to their hats and if probably they manage to let the title slip away, I think the fans wouldn’t be too disappointed especially if they get to a better stage in the UEL, their inperformance in all competitions this season have been very impressive and it's enough to let the fans hope that theirs hope for a major trophy in future.

Regardless yes, they’ve improved and I think with this improved squad, the club could get finances from the sales of most players by summer. Yes, they’ve got a better chance in the UEL than the League because Bayern are traditional champions but the UEL is one that has to do woth knockout and they’re pretty good at this kind of competition.

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January 05, 2024, 01:08:59 PM
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Leverkusen like I usually say are the big surprise of Europe this season. Like this team have a managed to stay unbeaten in over 5 months, that’s a big applaud for them. I think this is already bringing feathers to their hats and if probably they manage to let the title slip away, I think the fans wouldn’t be too disappointed especially if they get to a better stage in the UEL, their inperformance in all competitions this season have been very impressive and it's enough to let the fans hope that theirs hope for a major trophy in future.

Regardless yes, they’ve improved and I think with this improved squad, the club could get finances from the sales of most players by summer. Yes, they’ve got a better chance in the UEL than the League because Bayern are traditional champions but the UEL is one that has to do woth knockout and they’re pretty good at this kind of competition.
I think this is not a big surprise because since the middle of last season, precisely when Xabi Alonso came to be their coach, quite a lot of changes have occurred and it is clear that the quality of the Leverkusen team has developed so that this continues this season and is even much better.

Indeed, currently Leverkusen has been considered or favored to win the Europa League this season. I think it is quite reasonable considering Leverkusen's performance or strength which is quite good, but the percentage is still small because we don't yet know the extent of the Leverkusen team's mentality to be able to show its best performance. in the big matches in the semifinals or final of the Europa Leageu later and also in the Europa League, the best teams in Europe will certainly have quite fierce competition in the race for this tournament title.



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January 05, 2024, 03:31:02 PM
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I understand your perspective on person-to-person comparisons and how it can be difficult for someone to become another person. Xabi Alonso and Pep Guardiola are indeed different personalities, and it's unclear how tactical Alonso is compared to Guardiola. As for winning the Bundesliga and the Europa League title at a young age, it would definitely be an impressive achievement for Alonso.
Now, precisely this season, Alonso will also lead the team he is currently coaching to win the European League title in addition to his own domestic league. Because the team managed by Alonso currently, namely Leverkusen, has also experienced increased performance in the domestic league and also has the potential to become the best in the European League this season if Leverkusen is able to compete with other big teams such as Liverpool and also several other teams.
Winning the bundesliga and and the Europa alongside is the speculations most persons have for Xabi Alonso and his boys and this is due to their performance recently in their domestic league and in the Europa league aswell which have so far been such an impressive one as compared to others in the same league as them.

I think Ina as much as Xabi looks very promising with winning both trophies which will definitely mean a lot to his career , we shouldn't be too quick to conclusively assume he could achieve these all at once this season, just like guardiola did last season and got a trio I know it's aswell possible with others too but guardiola had got far more coaching experience than Xabi does even with the results he is achieving at his Early coaching age, and they both can't really be compared because theirs no good measure with which that can be done but they are both good coaches and Xabi have got the age advantage because he seem to be almost achieving much even at a very young coaching age.

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January 05, 2024, 04:57:23 PM
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Now, precisely this season, Alonso will also lead the team he is currently coaching to win the European League title in addition to his own domestic league. Because the team managed by Alonso currently, namely Leverkusen, has also experienced increased performance in the domestic league and also has the potential to become the best in the European League this season if Leverkusen is able to compete with other big teams such as Liverpool and also several other teams.

Yep Xabi has an impressive record, after 40 years Sociedad B team able to promote to the segunda division under Xabi.
Leverkusen is on the right track to win the Bundesliga, Europa Lague and DFB Pokal with 26 unbeaten games in this season with only 3 draws.
Im sure we will see Leverkusen in the EL final.
Xabi has caught the attention of many with his impressive performances at the helm of Leverkusen, he can showcase the strategies that can bring his club to the fore at the moment. In the Bundesliga they have been impressive, and in the Europa League, they have been the same, in fact, they are probably the only unbeaten club in two different competitions, the Bundesliga and the Europa League.
I am sure he will be a coach that big clubs will fight for, even recently he was rumored to be close to Real Madrid before Ancelotti was confirmed to have made a new contract with Real Madrid.
If he can bring Leverkusen to win the Bundesliga or the Europa League, his name will be even more fragrant and he will get a lot of praise from many people. Yes, I think he deserves it as an appreciation for what he has shown.

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January 05, 2024, 05:19:37 PM
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Now, precisely this season, Alonso will also lead the team he is currently coaching to win the European League title in addition to his own domestic league. Because the team managed by Alonso currently, namely Leverkusen, has also experienced increased performance in the domestic league and also has the potential to become the best in the European League this season if Leverkusen is able to compete with other big teams such as Liverpool and also several other teams.

Yep Xabi has an impressive record, after 40 years Sociedad B team able to promote to the segunda division under Xabi.
Leverkusen is on the right track to win the Bundesliga, Europa Lague and DFB Pokal with 26 unbeaten games in this season with only 3 draws.
Im sure we will see Leverkusen in the EL final.

Yes indeed, Xabi was extraordinary because he succeeded in making new history for the club, even though Xabi started in an unconvincing way but ya, as time went by Xabi succeeded in implementing the right method that was applied at Bayer Leverkusen . But yes, of course the unbeaten result in all competitions so far this season is a very surprising result, because it would be normal if Bayer Leverkusen still had 1 or 2 defeats, but Xabi has really been able to avoid defeat so far this season.

Obviously, that is a very extraordinary achievement so yes, with results like that we will not doubt the quality of Xabi and Bayer Leverkusen this season. At least to reach the final match and become a candidate for the title, of course that is a hope that is worthy of happening and worthy of becoming a reality at the end of this season.

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January 05, 2024, 05:32:34 PM
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Leverkusen like I usually say are the big surprise of Europe this season. Like this team have a managed to stay unbeaten in over 5 months, that’s a big applaud for them. I think this is already bringing feathers to their hats and if probably they manage to let the title slip away, I think the fans wouldn’t be too disappointed especially if they get to a better stage in the UEL, their inperformance in all competitions this season have been very impressive and it's enough to let the fans hope that theirs hope for a major trophy in future.

Regardless yes, they’ve improved and I think with this improved squad, the club could get finances from the sales of most players by summer. Yes, they’ve got a better chance in the UEL than the League because Bayern are traditional champions but the UEL is one that has to do woth knockout and they’re pretty good at this kind of competition.
I think this is not a big surprise because since the middle of last season, precisely when Xabi Alonso came to be their coach, quite a lot of changes have occurred and it is clear that the quality of the Leverkusen team has developed so that this continues this season and is even much better.

Indeed, currently Leverkusen has been considered or favored to win the Europa League this season. I think it is quite reasonable considering Leverkusen's performance or strength which is quite good, but the percentage is still small because we don't yet know the extent of the Leverkusen team's mentality to be able to show its best performance. in the big matches in the semifinals or final of the Europa Leageu later and also in the Europa League, the best teams in Europe will certainly have quite fierce competition in the race for this tournament title.
Yes, it's true, I also have the same opinion, even since Xabi took over as Leverkusen coach, Leverkusen has had a lot of positive changes and since last season Leverkusen has made improvements that most supporters don't realize and its only natural that Leverkusen is currently highly favored in the UEL and in Bundesliga as title holders because Leverkusen success very visible by consistently being very strong without losing points and competing undefeated.
This all thanks to the strategic help of Xabi who is currently trying to maintain the physicality of the players and provide perfect rotation against Leverkusen and in the upcoming match at UEL I will not hesitate to always bet on Leverkusen which always gives me profits and not even just me alone, but all bettors still have confidence that Leverkusen will be able to reach the final round and lift the UEL trophy.

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January 05, 2024, 06:07:10 PM
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I'm not sure that Galatasaray can wins the European League title because it can't be confirmed whether he will make it through the play-off round because his opponent can't be underestimated either. If Galatasaray is able to get through the play-off round I think this will be a big challenge for the clubs which is in the top 16 because Galatasaray strength in the domestic league is very good. So the club that is united with Galatasaray will feel a lot of pressure but I am not favorite for Galatasaray to win the title there.

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The only way to see Galatasaray winning the title would be by the elimination of Liverpool and Leverkusen both in the tournament before facing Galatasaray. Meanwhile Galatasaray would need to be consistent also of course.

But I'm probably just dreaming because I don't feel like Galatasaray would perform very well in each round. I say each round because I'm considering them as they would get past Sparta Prague without big issues. If they have big issues even with eliminating Sparta Prague then there is no hope for Galatasaray at all in the Europa League for later rounds truthfully.  Sad

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January 05, 2024, 06:32:55 PM
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The only way to see Galatasaray winning the title would be by the elimination of Liverpool and Leverkusen both in the tournament before facing Galatasaray. Meanwhile Galatasaray would need to be consistent also of course.

But I'm probably just dreaming because I don't feel like Galatasaray would perform very well in each round. I say each round because I'm considering them as they would get past Sparta Prague without big issues. If they have big issues even with eliminating Sparta Prague then there is no hope for Galatasaray at all in the Europa League for later rounds truthfully.  Sad

I think almost all of us think the same thing Galatasaray must get rid of Leverkusen and Liverpool if they want to become champions but here I consider Galatasaray as an underdog team which can surprise any team, Mauro Icardi can be relied upon in this situation this player is one of the productive strikers in the Champions League by scoring 5 goals and now Mauro Icardi plays at a different level so it can still be relied on. Anyway, don't underestimate Galatasaray especially if Mauro Icardi is in the line up no matter whether his opponent Liverpool or Leverkusen.

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January 05, 2024, 06:40:01 PM
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Bayer Leverkusen first spot, they have the Bundesliga title on their mind and it will be hugh dissapointement if at the end of the 2023/2024 Bundesliga campaign, they failed to win the title, everything fall apart, and they will be left with nothing to think about other than frustration and deep regrets, just like the scenario that happen to Borrusia Dortmund the previous season, they gave up really bad and that's one fight that was invalid. Xabi Alonso doing an incredible job for Bayer Leverkusen this season, they remained unbeaten and this is not a slight issue but a ready full combat.

No no no Cheesy You are exaggerating this massively! If they were to become second let's say, it wouldn't be a huge disappointment and no, not everything falls apart and they will not be left with nothing. They are doing some great work and they are building a great team with future potential. Let's see what the situation is at the end of the season. If they lead the table and lose the title on the last day like Borussia Dortmund did, then everything you said is true. But if Bayern outcompetes them and Leverkusen finishes the season with more than 80 points and yet don't win the title, it was still a great performance they can build the next season upon. You are talking about disaster only. But they are from that.

The Europa League will keep them motivated as this would be the cherry on top of everything else. Assuming they become second in the Bundesliga closely behind Bayern and win the Europa League, it would have been a fabulous season for them knowing where they are coming from.
Same with you Cheesy even though Leverkusen and Xabi are still in a very extraordinary condition but of course in this case we cannot exaggerate at this time as if Leverkusen has become the champion because after all, at this time the situation of Leverkusen and Bayern is still in competition so we cannot exaggerate it.

On the other hand, it is not wrong in this case to expect a new thing in the domestic competition (Bundesliga) for the problem of champions but something like this still has to have considerable proof because in the end we must also realize that Bayern is still a strong candidate there.
As for the current situation of Leverkusen in domestic competitions and the Europa League, they are indeed still one of the candidates with the performance shown still very good but that does not mean there is no competition in it because after all the highest probability at this time for the Bundesliga is Bayern and for the Europa League is Liverpool.

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January 05, 2024, 07:35:15 PM
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Same with you Cheesy even though Leverkusen and Xabi are still in a very extraordinary condition but of course in this case we cannot exaggerate at this time as if Leverkusen has become the champion because after all, at this time the situation of Leverkusen and Bayern is still in competition so we cannot exaggerate it..

If you look at the current point difference, it is only 4 points behind. I think it's only a matter of time until Munich returns to chasing these points and even becomes champion. I don't doubt the performance of Leverkusen and Xabi Alonso, but we are aware that Munich is truly a candidate to win number one in the Bundesliga. And when it comes to the European league, I think everyone agrees that many people talk about Liverpool's best chance of becoming champions. This is not who the champion is, but this is who has the greatest chance of becoming champion.

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January 05, 2024, 08:22:31 PM
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No no no Cheesy You are exaggerating this massively! If they were to become second let's say, it wouldn't be a huge disappointment and no, not everything falls apart and they will not be left with nothing. They are doing some great work and they are building a great team with future potential. Let's see what the situation is at the end of the season. If they lead the table and lose the title on the last day like Borussia Dortmund did, then everything you said is true. But if Bayern outcompetes them and Leverkusen finishes the season with more than 80 points and yet don't win the title, it was still a great performance they can build the next season upon. You are talking about disaster only. But they are from that.

The Europa League will keep them motivated as this would be the cherry on top of everything else. Assuming they become second in the Bundesliga closely behind Bayern and win the Europa League, it would have been a fabulous season for them knowing where they are coming from.
That's right, we also have to look realistically at where they come from before determining their level of success.
If Leverkusen does not win the Bundesliga this season it will not be a big disappointment for them because realistically they are still below Bayern in terms of strength and finances if that is normal.
And so far what they have shown in the Europa League is extraordinary, they are still unbeaten and if no surprises or bad things happen to them then it is possible that they will progress further in the Europa League this season.
Regardless of whether they succeed or not in winning the Europa League this season, I think this team has developed much better this season.

Disappointment can be relative right? Of course they won't be happy if they don't win the Bundesliga when they were very close to winning it, but I think that is a no brainer and doesn't need any discussion. Every player in the world would be disappointed if there is an opportunity to win a big title and then the project fails, but being the strongest competitor of Bayern Munich on that level is an achievement on its own.

The rest will need time but it would be good if they don't fall too far behind early in the Bundesliga because that will keep them thrilled and focused. That's the right condition to go big in the Europa League.

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January 05, 2024, 08:37:03 PM
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Yeah Leverkusen is a mediocre team, no one expect them can going so far, even though they perform better than Liverpool and Bayern Munich. But the vast majority still believe Bayern Munich will win Bundesliga, just like they won 10 seasons in a row, while Liverpool is playing in Premier League, which more competitive than Bundesliga.

But I believe Leverkusen can win at least one league, I feel they have better chance in Europa League than Bundesliga.

In round-robin tournaments, the difference in the class of teams (which definitely exists between Bayern and Liverpool on the one hand and Bayer Leverkusen on the other) is decisive and practically guarantees victory for the favorite. But in tournaments where there are knockout games, this difference is not decisive because of the randomness - any underdog can give a couple of good games and the difference between these three teams is not so great as to guarantee victory in the playoff games. Therefore, in the Europa League, Bayer is the same contender as Liverpool, albeit with slightly less chances.

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January 05, 2024, 09:09:21 PM
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Villareal can be an underdog like how they reached UCL semi-final under Unai emery seasons ago. But they have new manager now and are not in a good shape of football. I dont know much about how they play, but the statistics are not in their favor. But, in Europa League history, Spanish clubs tend to do well, because they put always UEL as their priority.

Leverkusen is the real favorite alongside Liverpool due to their performance in their league and group stage. But their priority is also intriguing, because they are fighting for the league title under the pressure of bayern which is not easy to handle both competition in the same manner. Experience can often play a crucial role in a team's performance, and Xabi Alonso is new to this situation where he has to compete with already experienced teams and managers. I would put Roma as the most serious contender because of Mourinho.

I don't have any evidence I could provide to support you that Spanish clubs tend to do well because they make UEL a priority. I have no idea how you found that out. Maybe you talked to some coaches from La Liga or some players, but I think it has nothing to do with making UEL their priority.

Spanish clubs aren't amateurs. They know how to play this game and if a stronger club comes around and underestimates a team like Villareal, this can quickly backfire and we have seen that when Bayern Munich was eliminated by this supposed underdog.

But I don't think that Villareal has a big chance to win this competition. Sure I can be wrong as anyone else here, but as you said the signs at the moment are not in their favor.

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