Proposal For Naija (Nigeria LB) Sub-Boards Creation

[Agbe]

Calvary Greetings from the Nigeria Local Board to theymos and other dignitaries in the forum. The primary reason for starting this topic is to create sub-boards in the LOCAL BOARD. A local board is created for the forum's users to use their native language. Nigerians have been in the forum for about 8 years, and at first we were all in one thread making comments and creating topics, but as the number of participants increased to a point where the thread became congested, a Local Board was requested, and on January 1st, 2023, the Local Board was created as a surprise package for Nigerians.  And as time passes, the board expands faster, and the population grows by the day. We have spent around 11 months since the creation of the BOARD, and the board is growing quickly, therefore we are requesting theymos to look into the board and create sub-boards so we may split up the discussions accordingly.


With over 100+ monthly active posters, the board becomes congested, making it tough to browse through a slew of off-topics and copy-and-paste local news pieces generated by newbies. We are not suggesting that local news is not important, but it should be of general interest rather than personal interest. Because this is a bitcoin discussion topic, all users are required to have a basic understanding of bitcoin. As a result, when child boards are created, other discussions will be on their sub-boards, while bitcoin discussions will be on the board's home page.

The Reasons for the Request

• Congestion. Too many threads and difficult to navigate through and topics are easily buried.
• To minimize spams: Since there is no local moderator at the moment, the child board will separate the trash, spamming and unrefined posts from the main board.

Requested Sub-boards.

• Naija Politics & Society: Topics that'll be of interest to bitcoiners in relation to politics and the society in general.  
• Other Discussions: Other topics that might be of interest to bitcoiners.
• Off Topic Topics that are not relevant in any of the above will be moved to this place.
  

This list is compiled from last month to this month.
Some of the Politics and Society's Threads found in the Board

Threads that are related to Politics and Society board
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Fuel Price do move 4rm ₦537 To ₦617 for one Litre
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Tinubu's comment on 25% in FCT call for serious concern.
The country no de move forward
President Tinubu, shakes the entire security sector.
CBN Governor, Godwin Emefiele, suspended!!
The future of our children, a concern in a demoralized society

I have just seen this now: Who is to be blamed ?

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Joe Biden Appoints Two Nigerians As Special Advisers
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The president certificate and how it affects us crypto-currency enthusiast

Some of the Other Discussion Threads Found in the Board

Threads that are related to Other-topics board
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Help Your Brodas/Sistas Stand Strong!!!
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Add to Charles-Tim list:  
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Why we too de abuse moments of celebration?
MARRIAGES TARGETED ON SOCIAL MEDIA
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[Weekly Akawo] Naija Friends

Increase in merit allocation to the Naija (Nigerian board)
Increase in Cryptopreneurbrainboss allocation:

Ps: While on this matter I also need an increase theymos (my allocation is too poor).

Approval of additional merit source:
1. From Charles-Tim: Charles-Tim merit source application + Nigerian local board
2. From Igebotz: Igebotz Nigerian Local Board Merit Source Application

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• To minimize spams: Since there is no local moderator at the moment, the child board will separate the trash, spamming and unrefined posts from the main board.

I think it would be much more beneficial for you to ask for a local moderator. You have several very active members who, if they are ready to accept responsibility, should perhaps apply for local mod positions.
Merit source applications to reward quality posts more are okay, but spam removal is perhaps more important for maintaining the forum. In the end, it will be easier for you to discuss if your board is spam-free.

[Odohu]

I have also noticed an increase in the participants of the Naija local board as can be seen in the sharp increase in post count of the board. I can actually attest to the fact that navigating through the local board can be challenging most times considering the way topics and discussions are arranged in the Nigerian local  board. If we have sub-boards, it will really help in organising discussions and accessing information.

For a board that is less that a year, the growth noteworthy and should be supported as a way of pushing Bitcoin penetration and the spread of this amazing technology, of which Nigeira is playing a key role.

We appreciate the efforts of those who do make it time to check on the Naija local board and also support in many immeasurable ways. We do not take likely, the support of Hugeblack, EFS amongst others. Approval of a few merit sources will also help encourage quality posters to do more to keep the board going.

While we hope this request will be considered, it is important to note that we appreciate having a local board in a forum like this.

[Charles-Tim]

I think it would be much more beneficial for you to ask for a local moderator. You have several very active members who, if they are ready to accept responsibility, should perhaps apply for local mod positions.

We are going to later ask for a moderator, but the need for other boards (especially other discussion which is meant for off-topic) is imminent. If there is a moderator moderating that board, he will not be able to delete many of the posts which some people see as spam, because many are not spam but belonging to off-topic board. Unless the moderator just want to be harsh. It is worth mentioning that moderators have fast response to the posts that I have been reporting on the board.

[BlackBoss_]

If the board is spam, it will be muted, locked. Locals can continue their spamming before the board is locked.

Use report to report spam posts because it's responsibility of local members who ask for the local board.

The board is in English and global moderators, current moderators who can use English can moderate it. All moderators in Bitcointalk can use English well and all of them can do this.

[Charles-Tim]

If the board is spam, it will be muted, locked. Locals can continue their spamming before the board is locked.

Let me be specific, Nigeria local board consists of many quality posters. Also this thread is about the need for child boards.

The board is in English and global moderators, current moderators who can use English can moderate it. All moderators in Bitcointalk can use English well and all of them can do this.

Some people prefer to use Pidgin, while some people prefer to use English, while some people prefer to use both.

[Doan9269]

Thank you Agbe for bringing this up, i see naija local board increasing in activities ever since the approval of the local board, now it's unto the next phase to help see the local board going well organized by how it members post on the board, I've also seen two or more cases of postings that are not perfectly on topic which some of the members take advantage of the unavailability of the sub board to post anyhow topic, now when there's three to five sub boards under the local board, each thread will finds its appropriate board it is well fitted in, else other contrary threads will be moved to off topic because they are not fit in anywhere.

If this request is granted, i see it to be one of the means to reduce spamming and off topic threads created indescriminately by some members, this will also encourage for more quality post when each aspect of discussion is having a designated board expected to have all related discussions, it will also be easier to locate any off topic or low quality post to be reported to the moderator if any is found.

Lastly, thanks to Hugeblack who had made it a commitment in identifying unmerited quality posts from local boards, this is one of the reasons we also hope that the two local board merit source applications be considered to help encourage other quality posters and also compliment cryptopreneurbrainboss who is the only merit source, while his own monthly allocations too can increase, thanks to all other active naija local board bitcointalk members for the good works on the local board and for bringing this initiative to request for sub boards.

GoodLuck all the way.

[rachael9385]

Our local board (Nigerian board) is one of the most active boards in the forum. Both quality posters and non-quality posters are on the board, so I understand the whole concept of what @Agbe is trying to conclude and, as for me, I do say the same thing as he has already said earlier.
Our local board should have a moderator and also a sub-board where the local board moderator can move or arrange every topic to the specific board it is supposed to be (if any users fail to post it where it is supposed to be). It will also help to reduce the rate of spammers and non-quality posts on the board.
I can conclude that one of the reasons why many other users (i.e) merit source and all the rest of them normally visit the Nigerian local board is because we have a lot of active and quality posters but what we don't have is a moderator and more merit source.

[bitmover]

I think Nigeria really deserves more sub-boards

i have been following all local boards for some time, and I have created this animated chart which allows people to see how Nigeria board has been flying. It is already one of the most active boards in the forum, even lacking its sub-boards.

I scraped the data from each chart and added here in this new animated chart, as suggested by dkbit98  and Rikafip.

We can see the evolution of each local board activity since 2020.

https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/12312077/

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The Reasons for the Request

• Congestion. Too many threads and difficult to navigate through and topics are easily buried.
• To minimize spams: Since there is no local moderator at the moment, the child board will separate the trash, spamming and unrefined posts from the main board.

Requested Sub-boards.

• Naija Politics & Society: Topics that'll be of interest to bitcoiners in relation to politics and the society in general.  
• Other Discussions: Other topics that might be of interest to bitcoiners.

Good and valid points @Agbe.
Nigerian local board is having more posts engagements and so many newbies are creating threads that are useful but off topics, it is now one of the active local boards in the forum, if we have the off topic sub board and political/society discussions sub board, the main board will be free from spam that are not related to bitcoin.

[Igebotz]

Thank you OP. Finally, the long-awaited request. I'm sure thyemos didn't expect the board's activity to skyrocket in such a short space of time when he created the board while neglecting the sub-boards. Thank you for making this public. I'm temporarily out of sources to bless the post.

If the board is spam, it will be muted, locked. Locals can continue their spamming before the board is locked.

Use report to report spam posts because it's responsibility of local members who ask for the local board.

The board is in English and global moderators, current moderators who can use English can moderate it. All moderators in Bitcointalk can use English well and all of them can do this.

You're sending the wrong message here, or maybe you didn't read the entire OP. There is no free spam zone anywhere on the forum, and BTW, more than 70% of the local use pidgin to communicate, making it difficult for non-pidgin speaking moderators to function successfully. A child board is required to assist in navigating and organising the board for easy reading. We also need a local moderator, which I've discussed with thyemos in the past, and I believe we'll have one when the time comes.

[Agbe]

If the board is spam, it will be muted, locked. Locals can continue their spamming before the board is locked.

I was not expecting this from you.  You are out from the course of discussion. You have to redirect yourself to the main point. We are talking about creating of child boards to split the discussions in the local board and you are saying to mute or lock board. I just believed that you don't understand the full text on the OP. BlackBoss_ it is not compulsory that you must make comments on all the threads you come across. You have to leave the ones you don't understand. Nigerian board has quality posters and even some of the newbies post well, just that we are posting everything in one board and the board is congesting with different news and others so we want to split them into different Sub-boards.

[Rikafip]

I think it would be much more beneficial for you to ask for a local moderator. You have several very active members who, if they are ready to accept responsibility, should perhaps apply for local mod positions.
Merit source applications to reward quality posts more are okay, but spam removal is perhaps more important for maintaining the forum. In the end, it will be easier for you to discuss if your board is spam-free.

I beg to disagree. While global mods can still delete spam (having their onw local mod would be of course better), not having separate child boards is imho more important and should be priority. Imagine if on our local board we don't have child boards and instead everything is crammed in one and if it was 10x as active.

Regarding them getting their own local moderator, it mainly depends on the amount of spam they have there so unless its a real problem, chances of them getting one are not good.


While I am glad to see that you started request topic, choice of child boards seem kinda strange to me. Wouldn't it make more sense to put off topic and politics&society into one child board, while asking for some other boards like "altcoins" (once bull market start you can expect increase of intresest in those, or maybe even marketplace if there's enough interest.

Anyway, I hope that you get new child boards as soon as possible since you are one of the most active local boards and you are in a real need for at least a few. 

[hugeblack]

Some of mentioned sub-boards are not related to Bitcoin, and creating such sub-boards may increase spam discussions that are not related to Bitcoin and without a mod, I do not expect them to be approved. I suggest changing the name of the sub-board for something related to Bitcoin, and collecting +30 topics within Last 90 days, things like technical section, wallets, beginners and help.

Overall, I am happy with the level of activity in the Nigerian Board and I hope they get a new mod soon. It seems like a community that is growing well and it is an opportunity to see more Africans here.

[DaNNy001]

If the board is spam, it will be muted, locked. Locals can continue their spamming before the board is locked.

Use report to report spam posts because it's responsibility of local members who ask for the local board.

The board is in English and global moderators, current moderators who can use English can moderate it. All moderators in Bitcointalk can use English well and all of them can do this.

What are you saying mate, I don't think you have surf the naija local board because if you have then you would know that the board is one of the most promising in terms of quality posters and more over there are lots of other board in which lots of spamming and abuse of merit is going, where someone is showered lots of merit for a shit post of just saying a welcome or introduction message. If you do browse other local board then you will be surprised to what you would see but that being said , this thread is for request of child board and moderator just like every other local board has and I think you should stick to it and again not everyone speak and pass information in the local board in fluent English as I believe you will be familiar with what is called pidgin English or "broken English" as we call it here.

[Sim_card]

OP, I applaud your effort on this thread to put it to theymos that we need a sub-board to help us navigate our local board easily. It has been noticed that newbies from Nigeria are increasing everyday and most of them come first to identify themselves in the local board, by creating topics that are not bitcoin related since they are newbies and love posting more than reading. This has made the board to have numerous topics that are scattered all over the board. A sub-board will help us comb this, as topics will be posted base on where it falls into. For OP, to write this, it has become something that is giving us a lot of headache, because Nigerians are people that don't like to complain no matter the situation that we are passing through, because our government have made us strong to adapt to things the way they are. As the population of the board increases, it gets more congested.

[Rikafip]

Some of mentioned sub-boards are not related to Bitcoin, and creating such sub-boards may increase spam discussions that are not related to Bitcoin and without a mod, I do not expect them to be approved.

That's not necessarily true as almost two years ago we (Croatian local board) got few childs boards, and neither of them were related to Bitcoin. First one was "Off-Topic" and the 2nd one was for altcoin announcement so it was separated from altcoin discussion.

From our experience, it didn't contibute to extra spam and all it did was making our main board much cleaner and easier to navigate.

[Nwada001]

From our experience, it didn't contibute to extra spam and all it did was making our main board much cleaner and easier to navigate.

Exactly the reason for the need for sub-boards is to make things in their right place, and posts that are ordinary are considered low quality, and spam will be on the off-topic board, which anyone visiting those boards is not expecting to see.
 
Another benefit of this sub-board is that if the local board has its own moderator, it will make work easier for them, and it won't appear as if they are too harsh or not being considerate, as most posts that are not crypto-related and not entirely political and could have been deleted will be easily moved to the appropriate board, and other active members on the local board can also know the right way to use and report posts that they notice don't fit in where the OP created them.

[iBaba]

If the board is spam, it will be muted, locked. Locals can continue their spamming before the board is locked.

Use report to report spam posts because it's responsibility of local members who ask for the local board.

The board is in English and global moderators, current moderators who can use English can moderate it. All moderators in Bitcointalk can use English well and all of them can do this.

I think it's a great idea to get local moderators to moderate the board. Despite that the board uses English language as a language, it also uses what we call the Pidgin English. Pidgin English is a lingua franca that is a mixture between English language and other African languages. Pidgin is widely spoken in Africa and every country in the continent has its peculiar style of speaking in Pidgin. For instance, the style in which a Nigerian speak Pidgin English is different from Ghana or Cameroon despite their closeness in borders.

Nigerian Pidgin is blend with other major indigenous tribes in the country such as Hausa, Yoruba and Igbo. So, most at times, it takes an indigenous speaker to understand the conversation between them and communicate. Likewise, it will take a local moderator to be able to effectively monitor the conversations in the board as well as sort the threads in the proposed child boards.

An English moderator is not a bad idea but for a more effective moderation of the board, you need a local or native moderator.

[hugeblack]

That's not necessarily true as almost two years ago we (Croatian local board) got few childs boards, and neither of them were related to Bitcoin. First one was "Off-Topic" and the 2nd one was for altcoin announcement so it was separated from altcoin discussion.

We have a different experience, especially the alternative currencies section. It has become full of ANN and bounty topics. The number of active people in your local council may be limited.

In general, their chances of creating sub-boards related to technical section, wallets, beginners and help are higher than altcoin\off-topic.

Another benefit of this sub-board is that if the local board has its own moderator, it will make work easier for them, and it won't appear as if they are too harsh or not being considerate, as most posts that are not crypto-related and not entirely political and could have been deleted will be easily

I do not remember that there is any local sub-board mod only  Russian board have more than one mod.