Streamer wins seem too good

[alani123]

I think this is something more people should be aware of. To begin with, it might seem like common sense to people in this board since most here are experienced with games and gambling platforms.
But to any new comer into the gambling scene it probably isn't as obvious.

What am I talking about? Well, at least once you must have stumbled upon a stream where someone plays slots. These streams are normally sponsored by the casino that hosts the games. They pay the streamer a salary and even fund his account. So the casino knows who the streamer is, what his account is and when he'll be playing.

The thing is, that these streamers get big wins so often that it seems very unlikely for their streaks to be happening at random.

We would know this as casinos say in their terms that playing with fun money does not incur the same level of randomness when playing with real money, which is really code for saying that fun money results to more flashy wins when you really can't win anything. So it's not unlikely that streamers are also getting some similar treatment as they don't play with their own money. This can attract their viewers to deposit and gamble with real money of course, but they'll very rarely get the same results.

This is something I've tried to highlight to my friends that want to get  into gambling, but overall not many people seem to be aware.
What has your experience been? Has this affected you or your friends?

[Hirose UK]

A streamer is person who is the same as working for casino because they broadcast gambling sessions with slot games as well as distribute referral links to gambling sites so that there are gamblers who are interested and enter the gambling site with these referrals.
We don't know what exactly happens and is done by streamers to be able to get quite big wins more often.
But personally, I mean that every streamer win is because they have large amount of money and in slot games there are games that can increase their chances of winning when they reach certain round, such as more than 5000 round and things like this happen lot.
I gambler who loves slot games and often manages to get fairly large multipliers when I reach more than 1000 to 2000 spins.
So maybe this is one of the influences on every streamer victory.

But some fiat casinos usually have accounts that are designed to be used by streamers and it has been proven that streamer from one of the fiat casino sites gave this statement.

[Coin_trader]

The thing is, that these streamers get big wins so often that it seems very unlikely for their streaks to be happening at random.

They will surely win big too often because they are betting big and also betting frequently. We don’t know exactly if they are using different set of games since they are just using their normal casino account on stream. I watch a lot of streamers and they are losing too like everybody else. They just have shit tons of bankroll that’s why they can always hit a couple of huge win due to their high bet.

As normal gambler, This is really unrealistic but you will understand their level once you consider their bankroll and the frequency of their bet since they have nothing to lose here because the money is just sponsored while they are still earning from viewership and commission.

Let’s always remember that streamers main purpose is to entertain viewers. No one will enjoy watch them if they are always losing big time. Don’t take their job seriously because they are not a regular gambler like us.

[alani123]

But some fiat casinos usually have accounts that are designed to be used by streamers and it has been proven that streamer from one of the fiat casino sites gave this statement.

I'm sure that FIAT casinos are more guilty of this than anyone else.
First off FIAT-only casinos almost never work with provably fair games. So that's red flag number one.
Red flag number two is how FIAT casinos don't disclose their ads on streaming sites, especially when they hunted casinos other big casinos off streaming sites for good.

My country is a good example of this for instance. The local "licensed" casinos in Greece pushed the local regulator to block crypto casinos, and in the meantime the local ones are allowed to advertise with big streamers as they like. But in reality they're even more shady, because they don't explain anything about volatility and RTP to their players.

[cafter]

I seen people winning 100x, 500x even 1000x on different games.
but I am playing for almost 8 months and blown my account too many times, and to date I didn't won a single 500x.
recently a day ago, after wagering too much I won 112x which was so normal that my account remained somewhat in green. I didn't played in fun mode will try and see I win frequently or not.
streamers may get free money to wager without thinking too much, means more wagering = more chances to hit slots or win big payout.

[xLays]

I seen people winning 100x, 500x even 1000x on different games.
but I am playing for almost 8 months and blown my account too many times, and to date I didn't won a single 500x.
recently a day ago, after wagering too much I won 112x which was so normal that my account remained somewhat in green. I didn't played in fun mode will try and see I win frequently or not.
streamers may get free money to wager without thinking too much, means more wagering = more chances to hit slots or win big payout.

I managed to hit X600 in the slot at Roobet (Hand of Anubis) and X500 in the crash game @ coins.game . But I still ended up losing all those multipliers.
Trust me, it looks like streamers often win multipliers, but the truth is they most often lose. We as viewers, only focus on winnings  not on how much the streamer lost. It could be that the accounts used by streamers are known by the casino operations since they sponsor those accounts, but I doubt the casino would do that to make the streamer hit max win or any high multiplier.

[rhomelmabini]

Often than not, it's all about publicity whenever you see streamers hit a big win or loss and the fact that they are sponsored by a casino we should know that it is what it is. Well, it's always the noobs they want to lure into it and we can't deny the fact that it's really enticing even if they are at loss or win because most of the times these streamers has flowery words to lure anyone out there watching.

[Accardo]

It shouldn't be surprising to anybody who follows or reads about the behind the scene occurrence between the streamers and the casino. Many aged players and young people fall for these streamers and click through their affiliates links showing huge discounts to con them into signing into the casino they promote. A lot of the said casinos they promote ain't promising to beginners and most times are illicit. I mean don't meet the supposed requirements for a responsive online casino. However, the streamers make lots of profits from the casino they promote. Pays ranging from tens to hundreds thousands of dollars. Due to the enormous traffic they generate for the casino. The wins is what causes the deceit. The fastest way to con people is by giving them a too good to be true offer. They'll be controlled by their emotions to be rich and fall for such casinos. Though, the results are manipulated, but everyone knows it. Even the streamers in different interviews with news channels like WIRED mention that the casino fund them to stream games. The problem with their viewers is that they expect to see similar results, which tend to be impossible. Because what they see is a contract deal and the casino, like you said know their workers and would make their results far too good for everyone that watches to feel intrigued to join gambling. And, naive people would at least want to make lots of money.

[letteredhub]

speaking of streamers, but just that in my case from a genuine experience not from a  casino paid/sponsored streamer. In the local gambling shops in my country when a gambler wins a large amount of money lets say in millions and the news about the overwhelming win hits the street, you see a lot of gamblers resuscitating their hopes of winning too by gambling more than previous , even gamblers that had for some reason taken a break from gambling are compel to return to the tables to gambling on hearing about that big win. And this is what online casinos dramatically do by sponsoring streamers to lure in more new users online. But as an experienced gambler knowing about these tricks nothing moves you, you just do your thing gambling responsibly as usual without being influenced.

[AbuBhakar]

speaking of streamers, but just that in my case from a genuine experience not from a  casino paid/sponsored streamer. In the local gambling shops in my country when a gambler wins a large amount of money lets say in millions and the news about the overwhelming win hits the street, you see a lot of gamblers resuscitating their hopes of winning too by gambling more than previous , even gamblers that had for some reason taken a break from gambling are compel to return to the tables to gambling on hearing about that big win. And this is what online casinos dramatically do by sponsoring streamers to lure in more new users online. But as an experienced gambler knowing about these tricks nothing moves you, you just do your thing gambling responsibly as usual without being influenced.

This is the effect advertisement. By showing the possible positive outcome, people will hope to experience same luck that’s why they rush in. It’s the typical behavior human to follow the heard especially if there’s already proof of potential good outcome.

Online casino is doing the same trick that’s why they always post huge win on their social media status and partnerships with streamers to have a good publicity on winning big on their casino. Their target is new customers and not professional with their ads because they already know that it’s not effective to gambler with experience just like what you said.

[BIT-BENDER]

Well any casino platform engaging in this is definitely not being genuine, yes I understand many Casino platforms are looking for ways to attract potentials customers to their platform but using this dubious means (faking winnings) would crash in the long run.
Also I think intending customers should look more on the features the gambling site has and how genuine they are rather than looking an the high amounts of previous winnings that has been encountered in the platform.

[Cryptomultiplier]

Every business out there today has methods of advertising and bringing in the right or even the wrong customers.
I don't see it as any different from what the streamers do, because if they don't win somehow even in the multiples, new customers who enjoy their thrill won't come in to patronize these casinos.

The streamers may be on a payroll by these casinos and I do think that whatever winnings the streamers get, if and only if they are real, will be claimed by the casinos, that's a major percentage of the win. 

[cabron]

Would it mean the casino rigged the games when you play real money?
And the streamer,  because he is playing the money that is considerably a demo money makes him win right?

If its just to lure newcomers in the casino I would really believe so. Thats why I don't watch these streamers because it seem too unimaginable for me to see someone play 10,000 to 50,000 on slot or dice. I would go for live game for that instead.

[Yatsan]

The only ones who could determine what is really happening, are the streamers themselves and of course the gambling site. I think there is a demo server wherein these streamers are playing, which is also being displayed on promotional videos and not with their streams. It would be hard winning continuously and with big rewards in gambling unless they are too lucky for such feat. There is a possibility that the platform is rigged but it would be hard to determine. If it is with promotional videos then this is not surprising simply because the aim of such creatives is to encourage players to engage on their platform making it to seem winning easily. But if you’re aware of how reality works, the house will always win therefore there’s really no such thing as consistent winnings just like what they are trying to show.

[BitcoinPanther]

The thing is, that these streamers get big wins so often that it seems very unlikely for their streaks to be happening at random.

Not all streamers wins that often.  I watched many videos of streamers that often ends up losing all their bankroll in many of their session.  Even with them getting a premier wins, they end up losing all the the bankroll in the end.  They even deposit more money to recover their losses but still ends up losing them.

We would know this as casinos say in their terms that playing with fun money does not incur the same level of randomness when playing with real money, which is really code for saying that fun money results to more flashy wins when you really can't win anything. So it's not unlikely that streamers are also getting some similar treatment as they don't play with their own money. This can attract their viewers to deposit and gamble with real money of course, but they'll very rarely get the same results.

Even though streamers are sponsored by casinos, they are still playing with real money so I somehow disagree with your idea of the system in play money is applied to those sponsored streamers.

This is something I've tried to highlight to my friends that want to get  into gambling, but overall not many people seem to be aware.
What has your experience been? Has this affected you or your friends?

I am aware that most of gambling streamers are sponsored by the casino they are promoting.  It does not affect me much since I watch their streams to see the mechanics of the game and somehow get some entertainment.  Their huge win does not influence to do bonus buy, in fact I seldom do bonus buy in any slots.  I always wanted to get the bonus round through normal spins.

[junder]

Would it mean the casino rigged the games when you play real money?
And the streamer,  because he is playing the money that is considerably a demo money makes him win right?

If its just to lure newcomers in the casino I would really believe so. Thats why I don't watch these streamers because it seem too unimaginable for me to see someone play 10,000 to 50,000 on slot or dice. I would go for live game for that instead.

It could make sense, honestly at first glance I have that kind of mindset and assumption when I see the stremers playing by always being able to get a win with an unbelievable amount, they don't hesitate and spontaneously increase the number of multipliers in the sense of increasing the risk opportunity to be higher, but it turns out that they managed to get a big jackpot. For stupid people maybe they will believe in what the stremers are doing, I'm sure they will follow the advice given by the stremers just to get the number of wins like them. Haha lol that's very silly, maybe their understanding is still too early in terms of gambling or maybe their brains and minds are already covered so it is very difficult to be able to think logically.

I believe and believe that the stremers use fake money or promo accounts provided by the casino in every video they show, before the casino has set up the account so that the victory dominates, and obviously nothing but the goal is to lure gamblers or even beginners to enter their casino. And that's where beginners will say "the way the stremer suggested didn't work for me" haha that's a real trick that casinos often end up doing by paying stremers for promoting their casinos. It's not necessary, and I think it's better to gamble on your own.

[Huppercase]

What am I talking about? Well, at least once you must have stumbled upon a stream where someone plays slots. These streams are normally sponsored by the casino that hosts the games. They pay the streamer a salary and even fund his account. So the casino knows who the streamer is, what his account is and when he'll be playing.

I have seen something similar like this in some casinos some few months ago, it was early this year to be precisely. What this guys were doing is that, they were paying influencers to promote their betting platform and in return pay back huge money for endorsements. What the platform does was that, they created two sections, one for real players and the for influencers to use for advertisement. The influencers segment was fake and they never had any loss when they demonstrate the platform to players but when you use the main segment, you lose times without number. This is to tell you that not all endorsed platforms are to be trusted.

The thing is, that these streamers get big wins so often that it seems very unlikely for their streaks to be happening at random.

We would know this as casinos say in their terms that playing with fun money does not incur the same level of randomness when playing with real money, which is really code for saying that fun money results to more flashy wins when you really can't win anything. So it's not unlikely that streamers are also getting some similar treatment as they don't play with their own money. This can attract their viewers to deposit and gamble with real money of course, but they'll very rarely get the same results.

This is something I've tried to highlight to my friends that want to get  into gambling, but overall not many people seem to be aware.
What has your experience been? Has this affected you or your friends?

You can't convince everyone and don't expect others to yield to your opinion, if you tell them and they refuse to listen, then you let them be for that particular time, when it is time for them to learn, they will learn and when they do, hope it doesn't affect them badly but you must let them decide something because they say that experience is the best teacher.

Majorly, only newbies fall into this streamers because I can't say and I have not seen any person comes out bodly to say that he has won something beautiful from this guys. If you check the streamers, they have something in common and it's that they don't condemn platforms they advertised. Even real platforms that are well reputed get casted for their mistakes but streamers are always perfect.

[Beparanf]

Would it mean the casino rigged the games when you play real money?
And the streamer,  because he is playing the money that is considerably a demo money makes him win right?

Not rigged but rather they probably use different game software that adjust the RTP in favor to the player. The regular slot games works the same as advertised since slot games software has license too so they need to stick to the declared specification once distributed to the players.

It’s like streamers is playing a demo game from the slot provider website which is very easy to win compared to the slot game on the casino even though it’s the same game. It’s not rigged but rather the streamer slot games playing an adjusted version.

[iv4n]

Would it mean the casino rigged the games when you play real money?
And the streamer,  because he is playing the money that is considerably a demo money makes him win right?

Not rigged but rather they probably use different game software that adjust the RTP in favor to the player. The regular slot games works the same as advertised since slot games software has license too so they need to stick to the declared specification once distributed to the players.

It’s like streamers is playing a demo game from the slot provider website which is very easy to win compared to the slot game on the casino even though it’s the same game. It’s not rigged but rather the streamer slot games playing an adjusted version.

Well, there's definitely something about slot streamers, they have too many max wins in a short time. And I guess we can say they have some crazy big max wins, they are buying bonus rounds with +$10k... so you can imagine how big wins they have. I don't follow any streamers, but from time to time I see some Twitter shares, and when I see how many "max wins" on Hacksaw I get a big wish for crying... that is one of the worst providers for me, I had x0 so many times, and I never won over x1k on Hacksaw, and I tried so many times... so many bonus rounds won from normal spins, even more bought bonus rounds, and nothing. I know I simply didn't have luck with this provider, that's why I am not playing it anymore.

As in the headline, streamer wins seem too good, and we all know, when something seems too good it's probably not true.

[Dewi Aries]

The only ones who could determine what is really happening, are the streamers themselves and of course the gambling site. I think there is a demo server wherein these streamers are playing, which is also being displayed on promotional videos and not with their streams. It would be hard winning continuously and with big rewards in gambling unless they are too lucky for such feat. There is a possibility that the platform is rigged but it would be hard to determine. If it is with promotional videos then this is not surprising simply because the aim of such creatives is to encourage players to engage on their platform making it to seem winning easily. But if you’re aware of how reality works, the house will always win therefore there’s really no such thing as consistent winnings just like what they are trying to show.

I think what you're saying is a true fact and it's a plausible reason for the question of why the stremers are always able to get big wins in every video that they show, so I would agree with your idea that it looks like they're using a demo account that's given to them by the casino that's doing the promotion. That makes a lot of sense, and of course the reality is that it's very difficult to get lucky like that, it's quite impossible and I wouldn't believe the wins they make.

That's one of the ways casinos attract more people to gamble there, one of the more proven ways to get more people to come in is by promotion through advertising and or paying one of the influencers to work together to promote their casino. The fact is true, of course, that the house will  always be the real winner, you or they should not reject my statement because the system is designed by the casino so the point remains that you have to be lucky.  So don't overdo it, it's better and that's all.