Streamer wins seem too good

[Davidvictorson]

I think that before we talk about the gleam and glamour of streamers winning big we should also talk about streamers losing big too. This is the part that is often downplayed. Okay. Now to the topic, what I would say about these streamers is that they play day in day out and at decent stakes. Remember that this is a job to them so they put the hours in as much as I love to play the slots I don’t have time to play like they do so will probably never see a big win in my life time as much as I would love one and I am understand that it  is not a problem.

[Marvelman]

Yes, multiple ex-streamers have already confirmed that everything was staged and fake, orchestrated by the casino. You wouldn't believe how many people don't realize what's going on behind those paid streams.  The whole thing is sponsored by the casino, who funds the account and  makes those insane winning streaks possible. Those aren't really just dumb luck.  Its like they're playing a different game with special rules.  I think it's worth pointing out, but it doesn't seem like everyone has caught onto this other side of things yet.

[Oilacris]

I think this is something more people should be aware of. To begin with, it might seem like common sense to people in this board since most here are experienced with games and gambling platforms.
But to any new comer into the gambling scene it probably isn't as obvious.

What am I talking about? Well, at least once you must have stumbled upon a stream where someone plays slots. These streams are normally sponsored by the casino that hosts the games. They pay the streamer a salary and even fund his account. So the casino knows who the streamer is, what his account is and when he'll be playing.

The thing is, that these streamers get big wins so often that it seems very unlikely for their streaks to be happening at random.

We would know this as casinos say in their terms that playing with fun money does not incur the same level of randomness when playing with real money, which is really code for saying that fun money results to more flashy wins when you really can't win anything. So it's not unlikely that streamers are also getting some similar treatment as they don't play with their own money. This can attract their viewers to deposit and gamble with real money of course, but they'll very rarely get the same results.

This is something I've tried to highlight to my friends that want to get  into gambling, but overall not many people seem to be aware.
What has your experience been? Has this affected you or your friends?

There's really some point into your gambling sessions or times that you would really be raising up those kind of questions on which why the heck they do seems on easy on winning up that certain slot?
Whereas its really that too hard on the time that you do play it on. It would be understandable that those streamers would really be funded or making use of casinos money on the time that they do make out some stream on which the amount per roll would really be something significant or something that big and on the time that they do hit up some nasty reels or combination then it would really be making out some significant numbers on which it might cause for someone to spark out that kind of interest to make a deposit. Well, this had been the plan in the first place on which
trying out to hook up someone with those good wins.

If you are still a noob then most likely you would really get easily convinced about making a deposit and you would really be finding or trying to reflect yourself
to be also a winner on which this would really be making out that kind of desperation on the time that you do play.

[jrrsparkles]

The thing is, that these streamers get big wins so often that it seems very unlikely for their streaks to be happening at random.

Even I do watch the streamers a lot because its fun to watch someone bust their money instead of ours but I don't think the games were rigged in any kind because I saw they lose big and win big as well so it all happens at random but the point is whether the streamer win or loss he isn't going to bear anything but the casino which sponsor will do.

Those streamers hide that from their viewers and try to pretend that they are playing with their own money which influences more people to do the same.

[Jemzx00]

It's really to speculate about these kind of information as there are also some streamers who barely win on their gambling sessions and only post highlights of their winning even though that they've ended up losing almost all of their bankroll. For me, some of it are rigged and some of them are not or probably it's same situation whereas when you're the who's gambling, you barely won however whenever you watch someone else gamble, they mostly win. It's kinda giving a false situation without knowing the gambling session they've played.

If you try to watch some of these streams from the beginning to the end, most of them experienced both losing and winning streak and end up either having same bankroll or with minimal wins or loses.

[yahoo62278]

When someone is streaming for a casino, they normally have a higher starting balance than the regular gambler and they can afford to take bigger risks. Even if they aren't taking the big gambles and playing a slot at a consistent dollar amount for hours, they are not getting juiced wins IMO. They are just playing more spins than the usual gambler.

Go watch trainwreckz and tell me he is always winning big cause all i see the guy do is lose money.

[angrybirdy]

Yes, multiple ex-streamers have already confirmed that everything was staged and fake, orchestrated by the casino. You wouldn't believe how many people don't realize what's going on behind those paid streams.  The whole thing is sponsored by the casino, who funds the account and  makes those insane winning streaks possible. Those aren't really just dumb luck.  Its like they're playing a different game with special rules.  I think it's worth pointing out, but it doesn't seem like everyone has caught onto this other side of things yet.

you will notice that from the very beginning, Their winnings is too good to be true because once you're the one who try, you always don't win. They do that because of contract that they've signed to a gambling agency, The accounts that they have used is already set up for winnings only. In that way, all of their streaming videos shows that majority is all about winning. There are times that some vloggers and streamers used their personal account and they show that they get a big prize once they win the game but the truth is, they got those prizes not because of winning, but because of referrals.

[Hispo]

Yes, multiple ex-streamers have already confirmed that everything was staged and fake, orchestrated by the casino. You wouldn't believe how many people don't realize what's going on behind those paid streams.  The whole thing is sponsored by the casino, who funds the account and  makes those insane winning streaks possible. Those aren't really just dumb luck.  Its like they're playing a different game with special rules.  I think it's worth pointing out, but it doesn't seem like everyone has caught onto this other side of things yet.

Is that so? because to this day I had only assume that the only difference between someone gambling in a casino as just the usual gambler and someone streaming their session and being sponsored by the casino itself, was that the casino offered some credit/money which the streamer was supposed to wager during the stream. I did not know that some casinos could go as far as increasing the chances of their streamers to get high multipliers, for the sake of advertisement, though I would need further confirmation of bit, because to me it sounds like a rumor.
I am also not sure on the legality of some casino doing such thing, like increasing or messing with the chances of their sponsored streamer to attract more people to the casino, it sounds like something which is supposed to be disclosed so the casino won't get into legal troubles with the time, even if no one reads the disclosure.

[Russlenat]

A streamer is person who is the same as working for casino because they broadcast gambling sessions with slot games as well as distribute referral links to gambling sites so that there are gamblers who are interested and enter the gambling site with these referrals.

Nah, they're only considered working in a casino if they're not putting their own money on the line. So, if we assume they're on the clock, it suggests they're using the casino's cash for their gambling sessions, explaining why they're not sweating the losses.

And that referral link? It's always hanging around, whether they're officially in cahoots with the casino or not. It's how streamers score some cash through commissions to make up for what they're doing, aside from the payments they get from YouTube, of course.

[Wexnident]

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Not really. I am familiar that casinos employ some methods to make it more appealing to viewers, whether it be the money streamers use being from them so they can spend however much, or heck even rigged rates when they play by having a customized part of the site accessible to their accounts. The thing is, I don't really give a damn lmao. No amount of streamer is going to suddenly make me bet $10k in a single go all of a sudden no matter what. So yea, I know it exists and it happens, but I just don't let it get to me.

[len01]

streamer was never able to influence my mind to be interested in trying to deposit and bet on the same game and I never trusted any streamer and I admit I often watch the stream but I consider it as an interesting spectacle like watching football.

In the past I often played slots and also often got maxwin and maybe too often but after getting maxwin a few times I very rarely got 300x+ and tried to move to other games and this does not mean I was influenced by a streamer but I bet on slot games because I wanted to I myself.

and for stories about the money the streamer uses his own money or money from the casino or its just an account designed by the casino for a winning streak its not important to me because its just an entertainment show that does not need to be taken seriously.

But personally, I mean that every streamer win is because they have large amount of money and in slot games there are games that can increase their chances of winning when they reach certain round, such as more than 5000 round and things like this happen lot.
I gambler who loves slot games and often manages to get fairly large multipliers when I reach more than 1000 to 2000 spins.
So maybe this is one of the influences on every streamer victory.

so that means you think that in slot games you will be able to get a big multiplier when you reach 1000-5000 spins?
and that means big multipliers are only for those who have a big budget to reach those 1000-5000 spins?
so what about this words "longer you bet, the more you lose because house edge?"

[oktana]

I seen people winning 100x, 500x even 1000x on different games.
but I am playing for almost 8 months and blown my account too many times, and to date I didn't won a single 500x.
recently a day ago, after wagering too much I won 112x which was so normal that my account remained somewhat in green. I didn't played in fun mode will try and see I win frequently or not.
streamers may get free money to wager without thinking too much, means more wagering = more chances to hit slots or win big payout.

I managed to hit X600 in the slot at Roobet (Hand of Anubis) and X500 in the crash game @ coins.game . But I still ended up losing all those multipliers.
Trust me, it looks like streamers often win multipliers, but the truth is they most often lose. We as viewers, only focus on winnings  not on how much the streamer lost. It could be that the accounts used by streamers are known by the casino operations since they sponsor those accounts, but I doubt the casino would do that to make the streamer hit max win or any high multiplier.

Okay. But when you won the X600, did you record it? Is there a video of it? Or it just randomly happened and ever since then, it has been a record you can’t break? These streamers can’t always be that lucky on camera. If they lose a lot people will think it’s too hard to win. So I strongly believe that these streamers are affiliated with these gambling sites. Even the way they speak about it in their videos are always enticing.

[davis196]

We would know this as casinos say in their terms that playing with fun money does not incur the same level of randomness when playing with real money, which is really code for saying that fun money results to more flashy wins when you really can't win anything

Any online casino, that is clearly stating this in it's Terms of Service openly admits that the games are rigged. This seems like a really dumb move.
I don't watch gambling streamers because I don't trust them. This is just another form of sneaky advertising. I believe that gambling streamers should be banned completely. Platforms like Twitch are supposed to be for gaming streamers only(which was their initial purpose).
I don't know why in some countries gambling advertising is banned and yet they allow streamers on platforms like Twitch to gamble.
This seems like a violation of the gambling advertising ban in several countries.

[Mauser]

This is something I've tried to highlight to my friends that want to get  into gambling, but overall not many people seem to be aware.
What has your experience been? Has this affected you or your friends?

When gambling streams were newer, I was surprised how lucky they are and wondered if I could get the same returns when following their actions. In the end I mostly lost money following the strategies of streamers and stopped watching them for a while. Now I am watching them again, but only for entertainment purposes and I don't trust blindly what I am seeing. A few of my friends started to gamble more regularly after watching gambling streams, none of them made any big profits. It's hard to know what's going on behind the scenes and I feel like gambling influencers and streamers are getting special accounts by the casinos to promote their websites and casino games. If the money you gamble with is not your own you are much more open to take high risks.

[bitbollo]

I personally avoid following any type of "influencer" in any field. Of course I haven't any social network because I find as a waste of time full of fake stuffs.

About influencers, I find them fake like any advertisement... there is always an aspect behind them that they don't let you see, in short there is never any need to trust.

I'm not young anymore. even my "friends" don't use these systems and don't let themselves be fooled by these "false prophets"
The same rule always applies: if something seems too good to be true, it probably isn't

[OgNasty]

I don’t think it’s a conspiracy or anything. You basically said it yourself. They get huge sums of money to gamble with for their involvement with the company, so they can take lots of crazy risks and bet huge amounts. Every once in a while they hit and it seems to good to be true. They also lose a lot of money real quick sometimes, but those clips aren’t posted online.

[komisariatku]

The thing is, that these streamers get big wins so often that it seems very unlikely for their streaks to be happening at random.

Streamers usually use fake money given by casinos so they can play every day for big bets. I often watch slot machine streamers, and in my opinion they experience losses like ordinary players, but because their balance is unlimited they can play continuously so they get bigwin or maxwin

To be honest, I doubt if streamers use special accounts to play where it's easier to get big wins. In my opinion, the accounts used by streamers are the same as other accounts, only there is no money limit because the casino puts a fake money balance into their account.

In my opinion, slot machines are all about probability, the more often we play, the more likely we are to get maxwin. What differentiates us from the steremers is the balance

[michellee]

I rarely watch these streamers play but I have watched them and to be honest, their wins are huge. I think maybe it was set up by the casino so they could get big wins. After all, those streamers use huge amounts of money.

It didn't have any impact on me, especially since I rarely watch the streamer play. I don't even have a favorite streamer so my gambling game doesn't depend on the streamers. I decide when I will play and stop gambling.

If there are people who want to join the streamer in gambling, they must really be able to limit their money. Streamers can spend a lot of money easily and it seems like they never lack money for gambling. Meanwhile, we, small gamblers, always need money to gamble. So we should always limit the use of money. Otherwise, we might lose a lot of money just because we want to indulge our desires.

[coin-investor]

I think that before we talk about the gleam and glamour of streamers winning big we should also talk about streamers losing big too. This is the part that is often downplayed. Okay. Now to the topic, what I would say about these streamers is that they play day in day out and at decent stakes. Remember that this is a job to them so they put the hours in as much as I love to play the slots I don’t have time to play like they do so will probably never see a big win in my life time as much as I would love one and I am understand that it  is not a problem.

We even had a thread here about one streamer losing a huge amount of money and thinking that the casino he played with was rigged, it's just speculation if we think that streamers are playing on a different platform for them to win, we have to prove that they are, but unless we cannot prove that, streamers win whether it may seem to good to be true are considered valid wins, what they are using may be sponsored money but to think that its rigged to the point that they make the streamers win is not the case.
Up until now there have been no expose or whistle-blowers that stated that casinos are making the streamers wins to gain more referrals if there are videos or testimonials then streamers will lose their reputation and they will be considered cheaters.

[livingfree]

I'd say that most of them truly are for the show but there are a few of them that has names that are for real. Let's take Drake for example, we all know that his bets are for real even if he's advertising a casino or he's an ambassador of it.

While those obvious streamers that are doing it for the sake of sponsorship, all of their wins and balances are for attraction. I think some content creators have exposed a contract from those new casinos that are trying to hire them.

Accounts will be made exactly for them and they'll just video their plays and the algo will be on their favor and let them win and that's what they need to show to the audiences.