Ratimov sold his account

[Little Mouse]

Actually, "Ratimov" acc has some strange posting now (in Dec). I see some difference with his past posting. More aggressive, and less intellectual. And strange figures of speech.

He lost a lot of things here so it can be common lol.

He just didn’t behave like Daisik, for example.

Did you mean deisik? What happened to him? What did he do?

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[CryptoPravda]

Did you mean deisik? What happened to him? What did he do?

This is not my message. But there is such a user in russian locale, it seems he behaved aggressively. I could be mistaken.

He пpoдoлжит. Этo нe Paтимoв. Bпoлнe ceбe пpoшapeнный кpиптaн, нeмнoгo aгpeccивный, нo нe Paтимoв. У тoгo былa ничeм нe cдepживaeмaя жaждa coздaния кoнтeнтa. И в цeлoм oн был чyть бoлee вeжливым. Ha aгpeccию в ocнoвнoм пepexoдил пocлe тoгo, кaк пoлyчaл чтo-тo в cвoй aдpec. Пpocтo тaк oн нe вёл ceбя кaк Дeйcик, нaпpимep.
   Этo нe xopoшo и нe плoxo, этo пpocтo кoнcтaтaция фaктa. Жизнь идёт cвoи чepeдoм.

Google translate

Won't continue. This is not Ratimov. Quite a proficient cryptan, a little aggressive, but not Ratimov. He had an unbridled thirst for creating content. And overall he was a little more polite. He mostly switched to aggression after receiving something addressed to him. He just didn’t behave like Daisik, for example.
    This is neither good nor bad, it is simply a statement of fact. Life goes on as usual.

[suchmoon]

Imagine someone else using my account: how long would it last before it's exposed? I hope it doesn't even take a day!

I'm sure that one could feed your posts to one of those newfangled AI/ML thingies and produce somewhat coherent LoyceV-like posts for at least two days.

As for Simwhatshername (can't be bothered to remember how many Ms and Ys there are, sorry), the current owner of the account is such a clown that regardless of whether it's the same person as the original owner or not, there is very little reason to trust them with anything. But I find OP's observations quite interesting and credible, and considering the password change I'd say ownership change is likely to have happened.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Here is another who believes that, after all that has been said, such as the change in writing mode, which culminates all the recent events that had been triggered, the most likely scenario is that the account has changed hands. But with a very high probability.

[Shenanigan]

But I find OP's observations quite interesting and credible, and considering the password change I'd say ownership change is likely to have happened.

Okay okay okay

Now listen here everybody. If Ratimov comes here with a bitcoin signed message and confirms his bitcoin address, would you all agree to be accused of libel (total distrusting and tagging as slanderers from all DT members)?

full list of accusers without evidence in this thread
-CryptoPravda
-sky999
-suchmoon

Are you ready?

[GazetaBitcoin]

As for Simwhatshername (can't be bothered to remember how many Ms and Ys there are, sorry)

LOL!

I find OP's observations quite interesting and credible, and considering the password change I'd say ownership change is likely to have happened.

Let's put things in this light: if you ever would want to sell your account, how would you proceed, taking into account also a shady past like Ratimov's? Well I, if I were him, first of all I'd want to get rid of any plagiarism evidence. So I'd delete all the posts which may still contain such evidence. In fact, I already anticipated that here:

I am almost sure he deleted all his posts starting with "In this article I would like to touch upon such a theme [...]".

Then we have also Loyce's discovery:

I checked: in those 58 topics, he earned 202 Merits.

Update: modlog now shows 78 deleted topics, in which Ratimov earned 369 Merits.

Then he also deleted a post where he admitted in plain sight that 90% of his content is plagiarism:

For instance, this post:

Quoting for historical reference and take a look at messages at numbers 33, 101, 108, 115.

Here, really original content, maybe 10%, the rest is all a copy-paste of finished materials or partial use of someone else's material.

quoted by me in OP and quoted also years ago by airfinex in the topic where he exposed Ratimov's plagiarism -- is now gone.

So this point is Checked.

Then, for "clearing" the account even more, I'd also apply for a name change. This did not depend only on him, but theymos was generous so we can say this step was also Checked..

I'd eliminate any negative feedbacks I left in the past, thus there would be low chances for other rants to appear to my "new" account and jeopardize a possible deal with a customer, which may not be interested om an account involved in accusations, beefs with other users etc. Checked.

I'd be mostly inactive for avoiding other conflicts or, if I needed to be a bit active I'd remain inside my local board, where less people would see what I'm doing. Checked.

I'd cancel any sponsorship, as no potential client for my account would be interested in buying the account with a debt of 0.0435 BTC. Checked.

I'd change my username and password. Checked.

Eventually, I'd also enroll in a better paying campaign, thus the account would look even more appealing for being bought. Checked.

What's there more to say? Ratimov Symmetrick checked all the above criteria, which are common sense for someone trying to obtain a very good price for his account. Let's not forget, this not an ordinary Legendary account, but fourth most merited account on the forum. (Of course, a client would never be informed that those merits were made in thousands by copy-paste and plagiarism, but that's another discussion.)

[mikeywith]

Now listen here everybody. If Ratimov comes here with a bitcoin signed message and confirms his bitcoin address, would you all agree to be accused of libel (total distrusting and tagging as slanderers from all DT members)?

A signed message would not prove anything, the "new owner" can request from the "original owner" to sign a message saying " the new owner is the same person as the "original owner", it's almost impossible to prove that something does not exist, if someone tells you that they a 12 bedroom apartment on Mercury, you would have no way to prove them wrong despite knowing for sure that they are.

As it stands right now, the accuser could just stay silent because "the burden of proof is on the accuser", however, given the account status and how many people are watching it -- it will be very difficult not to make a fatal mistake along the way that would expose him if the accusation is correct.

You can fool all people some of the time and some people all the time. But you can never fool all people all the time

Abraham Lincoln

[Shenanigan]

A signed message would not prove anything, the "new owner" can request from the "original owner" to sign a message saying " the new owner is the same person as the "original owner"

I didn't know about such schemes. Apparently you have a lot of experience in this

[decodx]

This seems tricky to prove.  Since most of us probably don't speak Russian natively, we can't personally evaluate if his style of communication has shifted.  The best course would be having members who previously interacted with him closely, either on or off the forum, confirm or deny perceivable changes.  However one detail gives me pause - if financial motives were important, why stop participating in the signature campaign?

[JollyGood]

As you stated, it is difficult for non-Russian readers to come to any conclusion because of the number of posts he is making in that board instead of the global board. Having said that he seems to be wearing a mixer campaign earning $10 per post therefore financial motives are definitely important to him (regardless of who is controlling the account).

This seems tricky to prove.  Since most of us probably don't speak Russian natively, we can't personally evaluate if his style of communication has shifted.  The best course would be having members who previously interacted with him closely, either on or off the forum, confirm or deny perceivable changes.  However one detail gives me pause - if financial motives were important, why stop participating in the signature campaign?

[un_rank]

Will not come as much of a surprise if it turns out to be true. It will only seem ridiculous to me to buy an account with all the drama and dust that have been raisd in recent months around Ratimov.

Everyone is talking about solid proof, and I will like to know what counts as solid proof of account changing hands besides obvious ones like change of language.

- Jay -

[GazetaBitcoin]

Having said that he seems to be wearing a mixer campaign earning $10 per post therefore financial motives are definitely important to him (regardless of who is controlling the account).

Selling an account earning 10$/post is way more appealing for a potential customer than an account earning nothing, right?

[Renampun]

Ratimov is a personally I personally had great respect for

I also respected Ratimov, but this is not Ratimov. We normally communicate even after conflicts.
I apologize, I can’t answer everyone, it’s hard to write in English quickly for me.

you can easily use Google Translate to help you speed up typing into English btw, I also really respect Ratimov (he was a member who helped me reach senior membership in the beginning), I don't really understand the problem that occurred between you and Ratimov, as well as your conversation with him at the Russian local board, I hope that the problem that was rumored will be resolved quickly. apart from that, strong evidence is really needed so that it doesn't lead to slander.

[GazetaBitcoin]

Why the hell does it mean account selling?

I believed you speak English. What's there not to understand from these few words?

[Shenanigan]

Will not come as much of a surprise if it turns out to be true.

No, it will be a much bigger surprise when it turns out that he didn’t sell the account to anyone.  

More aggressive, and less intellectual. And strange figures of speech.

After so many accusations, why he should be kind? I think anyone would change if they were punished such unfairly

Ratimov is simply in a bad mood. His bad mood is not a proof of account-selling

[tranthidung]

Can someone explain to me how you see that he has withdrawn merit source status? The link you posted does not point to any specific user.
Deleting the merit source thread application doesn't lead directly to that, does it? Also, the fact that on average he distributed less merit than otherwise, does not necessarily exclude that he has out-of-merit sources.

I did not say it is a solid evidence for conclusion and I only provided some information but as said, I noted that more evidence is needed even connecting those dots seems to lead to a logical conclusion.

If you need solid proof, it only can come from theymos or Cyrus, two forum admins.

I also have to mention other dots: email address changed and password changed on November 23, 2023, 10:33:06 AM.

Ratimov Symmetrick is one of biggest merit source in Bitcointalk. Most generous merit senders, all time. So with this drop of 1000 merit as Halab revealed, I can not think of any merit source than Ratimov Symmetrick.

46405: LoyceV
44417: El duderino_
43287: fillippone
41588: suchmoon
37598: ETFbitcoin
36272: JayJuanGee
33270: Symmetrick
32528: DdmrDdmr
32239: hugeblack
28061: vapourminer
27415: The Sceptical Chymist
26006: o_e_l_e_o

The user created many helpful topics (I can not deny it because I learned from his threads too) and made some mistakes (bad for sure) but I failed to see how he changed entirely this way, like LoyceV said, dig deeper and deeper into the dark.

[JollyGood]

Having said that he seems to be wearing a mixer campaign earning $10 per post therefore financial motives are definitely important to him (regardless of who is controlling the account).

Selling an account earning 10$/post is way more appealing for a potential customer than an account earning nothing, right?

Yes, absolutely.

Why the hell does it mean account selling?

I believed you speak English. What's there not to understand from these few words?

A short while ago I tagged his account with a neutral trust and noticed you have done it too. Quite clearly, he is a troll and I think it is obvious this is not his only account. For him to be posting in Meta and Reputation with the knowledge about the forum and the members shows he has an ulterior motive. Sometimes he posts silly comments such as the one you replied to by claiming he does not know.

He has also created a Theymos reputation thread too 

[ineedhelpplease]

I wouldn't be surprised if this were true. Ratimov burned all bridges behind him, and instead of confronting problems, he just kept digging a deeper hole. Maybe it's an ego thing, I don't get it.

If this is true, it leaves only one question: why would anyone buy such a high-profile account? Maybe that's the reason he stopped posting in English too, but if the account changed owner, that can't go unnoticed.
Imagine someone else using my account: how long would it last before it's exposed? I hope it doesn't even take a day!

If it is sold it wouldn’t exactly make sense for the buyer to be in your words “digging his own grave”. Although not everyone who buys stuff in general is gonna be smart and some people will be retarded. I assume these Legendary accounts go for expensive amounts if they were to ever be sold especially for someone like him. It is stupid that he is basically destroying his reputation and everything but if I were to buy an account I wouldn’t be absolutely stupid and burn bridges and ruin the accounts reputation by what people think of the user.

Couldn’t there be like IP checks that can just quickly resolve these type of scenarios?

[LoyceV]

Actually, "Ratimov" acc has some strange posting now (in Dec). I see some difference with his past posting. More aggressive, and less intellectual. And strange figures of speech.

Maybe he just stopped copy/pasting

Couldn’t there be like IP checks that can just quickly resolve these type of scenarios?

No. Admin won't get involved, and it could lead to false positives.

[Timelord2o67]

If Ratimov Acc has changed hands and you're going to start mentioning their *cough* generous meriting, then you should have no problem citing where their generosity changes with new users favoured over longer serving members.