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December 12, 2023, 04:25:02 PM
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Several members called him out during this time and there was several topics about him in Reputation, but he never replied anything as far as I know.
He was obviously trying to stay under the radar here, while pretending to be angry old owner in russian local board.
Him not arguing anymore was more about realizing that the more he wrote, the worse his situation was as he coulnd't control his emotions, so better stay quiet than dig hole even deeper. At least that's how I see it.


However, I don't think he is gone for good, he probably uses some different account now, maybe someone recognizes his writing style in future.
It would take a shit load of effort for someone like him to stay hidden for longer period of time.

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December 12, 2023, 04:41:36 PM
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However, I don't think he is gone for good, he probably uses some different account now, maybe someone (or AI) recognizes his writing style in future.

He might have had another account for a while... he bragged about making 3 BTC on the forum but the math doesn't add up, he would have needed 2-3 accounts to do that Grin


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December 12, 2023, 07:04:43 PM
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He might have had another account for a while... he bragged about making 3 BTC on the forum but the math doesn't add up, he would have needed 2-3 accounts to do that Grin
Maybe, maybe not, but having multiple accounts is not against the rules Wink
Earning 3 bitcoins in 4 years is/was not impossible task for high ranked members.
He could also earn bitcoin from campaigns, sell it on market top, and buy back again when price drops, that also counts I guess.
I think I remember him saying he was using leverage trading on several exchange.

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Another thing worth checking is other accounts he sent most merits.

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December 12, 2023, 11:48:57 PM
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Personally, I tagged the Symmetrick account when too many questions arose about the account no longer being operated by the original owner/creator but apart from one other red tag it seems as though members have refrained from tagging.
I don't really see the point of adding more tags: if it changed owner, there's a clear warning now for anyone to avoid doing business with Ratimov's new nickname. If he's just grumpy and ignoring all the drama he caused, there's no need for more tags. Any reputation he had is gone.

That is it in a very short sentence. He had a good reputation. Deserved or not, does not matter anymore. But it's gone. Can we all just move on from here at this point?

If people look they will see that that account should not be trusted.

If they don't look they will not see it and no matter what else if they don't look nothing matters since they are not looking.

Yes, it's a bit of circular logic, but if you don't care about checking then that's on that user.

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December 19, 2023, 11:08:41 PM
Last edit: December 20, 2023, 10:09:21 AM by digaran
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@CryptoPravda, @GB, I'm an idiot, it took me this long to realize what you guys were actually saying, recently I read a comment on a quote which reminded me of this topic. IMO nobody like that should be allowed to take part in this community, especially if they cross the line, insulting people's parents is a red line where nobody should cross by all standards. Please accept my apology for neglecting such an important issue.

I'd say it's already too late for him to come here or via PM to ask for your forgiveness, he has had his chance for a long time to do that. Such people have to be scarred for everyone to see and we need to stop them before they get the chance to earn even a single sat here. I mean if he had a personal quarrel with GB alone, we could say it's personal, but now it seems that case was not an isolated event. To all DT members, please tag the sh*t out of anyone who'd habitually insults others' parents.

Don't let such transgressions to flourish around here, this should be a clear evidence to cast out such people from this community.

And to all other DTs still supporting him, please exclude him from your trust list, otherwise you'd be in agreement with his behaviour, therefore you'd be considered the enemy of this community. So ~symmetrick.

Once someone insulted my mother, then I insulted his wife/daughter/sister to make it even, and I don't hold any grudges against him, it was a trollish situation and we both moved on, and it was a one time thing. But this one is not and as a community we should not tolerate this.

Ps, @GB, if you post that image again, I will sue you. 😂

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December 20, 2023, 08:27:33 AM
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I don’t know too much about this forum I’m still learning. I don’t even know what “DT” stands for

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December 20, 2023, 09:30:02 AM
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Or mine: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5226757.



@CryptoPravda, @GB, I'm an idiot, it took me this long to realize what you guys were actually saying, recently I read a comment on a quote which reminded me of this topic. IMO nobody should be allowed to take part in this community, especially if they cross the line, insulting people's parents is a red line where nobody should cross by all standards.

You mean you saw this post?



Please accept my apology for neglecting such an important issue.

Apology accepted.



Ps, @GB, if you post that image again, I will sue you. 😂

What image?

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The user Symmetrick has been banned, so haters of this user can breathe a sigh of relief. So discussion of this issue has lost its relevance.

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December 30, 2023, 06:17:21 PM
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The user Symmetrick has been banned, so haters of this user can breathe a sigh of relief. So discussion of this issue has lost its relevance.

Lol, on what basis what he banned now? He wasn't banned for years in a row of plagiarism, but he was banned now, when it does not even post anymore? He wasn't banned when he made you a garbage man but he was banned now? He was not banned when he threw all his dump into your yard Russian board but he was banned now? How so?

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December 30, 2023, 06:35:25 PM
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The user Symmetrick has been banned, so haters of this user can breathe a sigh of relief.

Haters of this user? If anything he was a hater of the forum and its members, not the other way around.

Let's dot the i's and cross the t's.

Do you mean that he has been banned because he is a poor victim of a conspiracy by haters of him and not for everything he has done?

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December 30, 2023, 06:47:09 PM
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Lol, on what basis what he banned now?
Probably at his own request:
This account will be blocked soon.
Note that it's not a standard Autoban: it didn't show up on modlog, and his signature wasn't wiped. I think it's blocked this way:
Lauda is banned in the same way as satoshi, such that it isn't possible to even log into the account anymore.

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Probably at his own request:
This account will be blocked soon.
Perfect way to make a fresh start, I guess  Grin

Ratimov's reputation already being soiled, a start over is the only likely option. He will just create a new profile, hunt for merits like he did before. The good thing is that he already has some good experience. A few thousands of merits shouldn't be hard in some months, and just try to stay out of radar.

With the kind of ego he had. I don't think he is gone for now.

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December 30, 2023, 10:04:19 PM
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The user Symmetrick has been banned, so haters of this user can breathe a sigh of relief. So discussion of this issue has lost its relevance.

It seems to be an autoban for being PossiblyCompromised.

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December 30, 2023, 11:01:55 PM
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Imho, his recent actions confirms that Ratimov never sold his account (as many suspected he did) as no sane person would pay for an account and then do what he is doing, spending God knows how many hours deleting 10k+ posts.
It depends on what we mean by the word sale. Another person wrote from the account. No one knows whether he sold it or gave it away or gave it to use. But another person wrote from the account. Perhaps there were several people behind the account and they had a conflict.
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The user Symmetrick has been banned, so haters of this user can breathe a sigh of relief. So discussion of this issue has lost its relevance.

It seems to be an autoban for being PossiblyCompromised.

Anyone could instantly autoban themselves by setting a secret question and attempting to fill it in during login, though.

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December 31, 2023, 06:23:25 PM
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The user Symmetrick has been banned, so haters of this user can breathe a sigh of relief. So discussion of this issue has lost its relevance.

A bit OT but, has it ever been really discussed why the forum itself does not show banned users and why?
I know I have brought it up in the past, that knowing why would probably not be a bad thing, but was there ever any internal discussions as why not to show it?

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December 31, 2023, 07:39:24 PM
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The user Symmetrick has been banned, so haters of this user can breathe a sigh of relief. So discussion of this issue has lost its relevance.

A bit OT but, has it ever been really discussed why the forum itself does not show banned users and why?
I know I have brought it up in the past, that knowing why would probably not be a bad thing, but was there ever any internal discussions as why not to show it?

-Dave

I don't know why the forum doesn't show this kind of information to all users. I think theymos thinks that displaying such information to everyone is unnecessary. That this information is only for the staff. And yes, this issue was not discussed in the moderators section.

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December 31, 2023, 09:51:40 PM
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A bit OT but, has it ever been really discussed why the forum itself does not show banned users and why?
I know I have brought it up in the past, that knowing why would probably not be a bad thing, but was there ever any internal discussions as why not to show it?

-Dave
Probably the same reason the forum won't display negative feedback in certain discussion boards and to Guest users

Maybe they want users to have an unbiased feel when reading through useful content that was previously posted by an account that has since been banned. When reading some content, as soon as one sees that the poster was banned, there's away one's perception does not remain the same. Similar thing happens when one see the negative feedback.

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January 01, 2024, 09:11:10 AM
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It seems to be an autoban for being PossiblyCompromised.
I thought that would wipe the signature by default.

Anyone could instantly autoban themselves by setting a secret question and attempting to fill it in during login, though.
If that's the case, it makes sense: he'll request to recover his hacked account and the drama/attention continues.

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It seems to be an autoban for being PossiblyCompromised.
I thought that would wipe the signature by default.
Maybe the kind of ban is similar to what Harizen got?
The account got compromised and started spreading malware, the user was banned, but his signature stayed on as currently seen on his profile.

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