How to self exclude from anonymous gambling sites

[Get-Paid.com]

This is good but not good for those who are anyways getting themselves involved in gambling. I am not sure how this is relevant but locking/staking fund is one type of investment

Gotta love posts like yours, lol, this is good (for who? investors?) but not good for those involved in gambling, so why exactly this thread has gotten over 10 pages of responses here? Maybe because it does contain some good advice and is "good" and useful for addicts who want to stop gambling?

In regulated countries (e.g. UK) you can now self-exclude by clicking on one single button, no need to chat/email or talk to anyone, you click on "Self Exclusion" and you're excluded, period.

The problem with crypto gambling sites, is that they don't have this regulation, for good or bad, but this can cause troubles for those who are holding crypto and can find themselves easily throwing away 5-6k $ digits in less than 24 hours, the websites won't tell them to stop, and even if they can "self exclude" their account, they can create a new one instantly and keep on wagering because crypto sites don't ask for your private information, they don't KYC every user/player, and so that creates a vicious cycle the addict wants to get out of.

The thread is offering a plausible solution advising the addict, just like in regulated countries, all it takes is 1 click of a button to self-exclude - then same thing here, all it takes is 1 single click and the funds can be taken away from you for 21+ days - what it does is create a situation where the addiction is being arrested!

No Money = No Gambling

But you like many others here seem to ignore this kind of thinking, maybe because you look at gambling from a very different perspective, not sure why it's hard for you to see the point.

PS Regarding the points about Atomic Wallet / Trust Wallet, yes, well accepting these points, but no need to edit the first post, Atomic is good as well.

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[Ravichnadra]

Most of the sites don't have self-exclusion options.

The only was it to Delete the app.

self-excluding from anonymous gambling sites can be tricky,

Contact Support: Reach out to the site's customer support if possible and explain your situation.

Financial Blocks: Ask your bank or payment provider if they can block transactions to gambling sites.

Self-Regulation: Check if the site has self-exclusion tools or limits in its settings.

[ethereumhunter]

Gamblers that are having those problems need to do some serious soul searching and answer a simple question, can they really control their gambling and they have been lax on that control or they do have a problem and they cannot really control themselves anymore? If it is the former then they really need to step up their game and control themselves by any means possible, and if it is the latter then they need to recognize that even if gambling is something they enjoy greatly, the time has come to leave it behind for good.

Most gamblers who have gambled too often have probably experienced a loss of self-control in gambling, so they only increase their problems even more. If they don't immediately solve their problems one by one, they will only get deeper into gambling without being able to get out of gambling. If they really want to exclude themselves from gambling, they must really be able to control themselves well and be able to get rid of the desire to gamble. If they can do that, they can use the self-exclusion feature well and they won't even use that feature but control themselves. That will help him reduce his desire to gamble.

[delfastTions]

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I agree that the self-exclusion function is a very useful tool and a way for a person to fight against his passion for gambling, which can already turn into gambling addiction at the stage of mental illness.  Those casino devs who include this function in their algorithms act correctly and responsibly, since sometimes this function works more or less effectively.  But many gamblers, even when this function is turned on, still have an obsessive thought in their brains about how to quickly start playing again when the exception ends.  It seems to me that it is important for people close to the player during such periods to distract the player as much as possible with various conversations on other topics or requests to do something useful.  Then the brain automatically switches to other thoughts.  And it will become easier for the player.

Im nodding to your self-exclusion points. Its good, but its like bandaging a leaky pipe. Under the surface, the issue persists. Obsessive thoughts about gambling again drain your brain batteries like background programs.

Imagine personal growth during self-exclusion. How about finance management or addiction psychology education? Give the brain healthy fuel for thinking. Understanding the "why" behind habits may help players avoid relapse. Knowledge is powerful and could change the game.

Family support is essential. Not just diverting them, but understanding and empathy. Discussing addiction, sharing stories, and even taking online classes or fitness challenges together. Replace one habit with healthier ones. So why not gamify these alternatives? Make healthy living fun. Life is the ultimate game, and we're all leveling up in our own manner.

Of course, the exception itself is a temporary solution to the problem.
 As for the productive mental work of such a player, this really seems to be able to help him and a little drown out thoughts about gambling.
 But as for the good, everyday direction of development of the gambling industry, there is precisely a problem.  It’s just that most gambling manufacturers, in my opinion, are aimed at tough competition and often associated with violence in the virtual space.  Apparently these are the aspects that still attract more players. 
The spirit of competition and destruction of a defeated enemy is held in high esteem.  Game producers will justify this by the very bestial nature of man. 
Therefore, such a good everyday type of games is typical only for children.  For adult players it's different.

[EarnOnVictor]

Regardless, I implore everyone to follow the terms and conditions of their casinos and to make sure that they complete their KYC from the beginning so that casinos will not use the excuse against them later.

This is bad advice. You should only complete KYC initially in casinos that mandatorily enforce it like Roobet etc. If it's not mandatory, you shouldn't submit your KYC information unless they request it later on.

It makes no difference when you submit your KYC as long as you are submitting accurate information without trying to fool the sites.

Bravo! How is this bad advice when it is what I am doing and has been working for me for decades? I started this with online brokers and companies and it has been saving me from what negatively affects others later. I have witnessed many stories of people who didn't do the KYC from the beginning but had problems with the company they dealt with later, especially when they wanted to withdraw money, particularly a sizable amount of it. You see, we have to be smart and I do not know why doing KYC is too hard for some of you when you are not criminals. But most of you are doing the KYC elsewhere on a daily basis, you are only faking it. As the world is now, it is revolving, you will hardly hide anywhere without KYC unless you want to deal with companies that are not reputable or less reputable.

Also, your argument is only valid for the no-KYC casinos, and by this, the person would have known that it is not required. But for those casinos that could be silent about it while other customers of the same casinos are doing the KYC, you might put yourself in trouble if you do not do it on time, unless you are a loser. Maybe you are not a winning gambler, that is why you are talking like this. But if you are a winning gambler, you should never leave any stone unturned, and even if you later have issues with your casinos due to their overbearing attitude, you would know that you did what you have to do from the onset. By the way, let me ask you, have you seen a casino that is not no-KYC and is fully registered and regulated that will let you continue to play forever without KYC? If you answer this with proof, maybe we can step our discussion further.

[delfastTions]

..... By the way, let me ask you, have you seen a casino that is not no-KYC and is fully registered and regulated that will let you continue to play forever without KYC? If you answer this with proof, maybe we can step our discussion further.

Allow me to say a few words about this problem.  And this is one of the global problems, namely the possibility of anonymous payments in cryptocurrency.  And this, of course, concerns the interests of millions of gambling and casino players around the world.  These players may have many reasons why it is vital for them to remain anonymous.  These reasons can be of a family nature, or concealment of information from the employer, or national prohibitions on gambling.  And now the implementation of KYC everywhere deprives such players of the opportunity to gamble.
 And the theses of my posts, including here on the forum, briefly consist in the fact that humanity as a whole has already matured to the full legalization of the possibility of anonymous payments and finally a jurisdiction similar to at least Curacao should appear, which will issue licenses on completely legal grounds  for the activities of crypto casinos with a 100% guarantee of no KYC under any circumstances, including, of course, when paying out big winnings to happy players.  I think that such a casino can not only arouse interest among cryptocurrency owners, but even become very popular, even cause some excitement in a good sense. 
Unfortunately, everyone is still afraid of USA hegemony in such licensing issues.
 But, obviously, the world is changing and soon many countries will not give a damn about this fact.  Then such jurisdiction may appear.

[Youngkhngdiddy]

If you are really eager to exclude yourself from gambling then the first step you need to do is stop visiting the gambling section of this forum. Since you will stop seeing a lot of promotion so for sure it can lower down your interest to gamble. Also you can make yourself busy on other things like focusing on investment since for this for sure you will never think about gambling but rather you will just find new things that can possibly give you some profit like investing on new alts or trade with the crypto you want to follow.

Doing what you mention could possibly exclude yourself to gamble but for sure you can still receive another funds and if you can't do anything with it for sure you would still think about to gamble since you might get bored for not doing anything.

    I think it’s all left for the person to decide what he want to become, we all have choices to make in whatever we do. It’s that self discipline that makes one more coordinated than the other. Why will we want gambling to take control of us when we are the one to be in control instead. People can actually fight through this gambling addiction, with just self discipline and control any body can beat addiction.  Your idea is very much valid too because even the Bible says if the right hand is causing you to sin, caught it off. Cutting off your engagement with anything associated to gambling is one way help in controlling gambling addiction.
   Freezing up funds in site is not really enough, because if you really want to cut down habit, you shouldn’t be having money in your gambling sites. You can use the money for other things, if you want to stay off gambling, stay off for good. Keeping the money there can really be tempting to begin gambling again. Best thing to do for yourself to prevent spending more time in gambling site, is to delete the site from your device. This is a really a great step in dealing with addiction.  Nothing is impossible for sure, we can also be better and do better. We just need to be true to ourselves.

[Oilacris]

Most of the sites don't have self-exclusion options.

The only was it to Delete the app.

self-excluding from anonymous gambling sites can be tricky,

Contact Support: Reach out to the site's customer support if possible and explain your situation.

Financial Blocks: Ask your bank or payment provider if they can block transactions to gambling sites.

Self-Regulation: Check if the site has self-exclusion tools or limits in its settings.

Self exclusion feature is indeed that available on some platforms but some dont really have on which means you would really be needing to do it externally on which it would really be just that depending
on how you would really be that making yourself taking up such step on which those options you had mentioned are indeed other ways on making yourself that be able to avoid those potential
impulsive gambling activity on which if you are really that mindful about on quitting gambling or having some break then it would really be just that normal that you would be serious on doing it.
On the time that you do find yourself be dealing again with gambling just because you had bypassed those restrictions or really finding up way for you to play no matter what
then its a solid indication that you are already addicted into it.

[mak013]

Regardless, I implore everyone to follow the terms and conditions of their casinos and to make sure that they complete their KYC from the beginning so that casinos will not use the excuse against them later.

This is bad advice. You should only complete KYC initially in casinos that mandatorily enforce it like Roobet etc. If it's not mandatory, you shouldn't submit your KYC information unless they request it later on.

It makes no difference when you submit your KYC as long as you are submitting accurate information without trying to fool the sites.

It is silly enough. You can get KYC when you need your money fast and wait for a week or even a month until you KYC. You can get some problems with KYC and just lose all your money. The best way is to initiate KYC by yourself if it is possible. Of course if you want to gamble in this casino for a long time and you don`t plan to cheat.

[tusandii]

It is possible to exclude yourself in the way OP said, but unfortunately, as OP said, you cannot use stable coins to distance yourself from the risk of fluctuating crypto prices.
In my opinion, whatever method a person uses to exclude themselves is very good, but it all comes back to the desire and commitment of each gambler because it would be in vain if a gambler staked the budget he has because if his mind still has the desire to gamble, of course he has other methods such as tried to gamble, borrowed a little money from a friend and gambled secretly.
A strong desire is an important role for gamblers who want to reduce their gambling activities so that in any way gamblers can very easily limit themselves so that they get into the habit of not gambling too often.

[Get-Paid.com]

By the way, let me ask you, have you seen a casino that is not no-KYC and is fully registered and regulated that will let you continue to play forever without KYC? If you answer this with proof, maybe we can step our discussion further.

Fairlay.
They allow you to register with an "instant link", no email, no name, no phone, not even a password required.

Their limits are high.
And they are just 1 example.

There are many more, unfortunately.

[KiaKia]

You can watch this video from 07:20 if you want to skip on the other parts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxty2XhTwVI

Basically it's very simple.

You take a currency that requires 21 days for staking/unstaking, then you deposit this amount in Atomic Wallet, stake it and then you can't gamble with the crypto you're holding.

The locking (staking) is done with one single click of a button, and it's practically speaking, equivalent to activation of self-exclusion on an online gambling site with a click of a button (and yet not all sites offer it unfortunately).

For example, you stake (lock) $200 of your crypto, and that's all crypto available for you - then you can't play/gamble/risk it for at least 21 days ... do it 15 times a year time after time, and you would be excluded for a long time.

The only drawback with this method is Atomic doesn't offer this on USDT so some "gamblers" might not like this idea because they trust stablecoins more than other crypto coins, but this is FYI.

Pushing the button to start the staking is where the problem is at, remember that a heart that's filled with the excitement of gambling is already craving to gamble again, it would be different someone else is going to keep pushing that button, but the gambler will still have to make the decision.

I personally do not buy this idea because it depends on the gambler's mind, if he is serious on quitting gambling he or she will do this easily, but if he is the type that has weak mind he won't be able to lock away his money for long, even if he did it once, after the staking period is over he will surely use the fund to gamble.

Like you said, staking is a big problem if you are not using stable coin, because alternative coins are highly volatile, they can lose value so much that when you unstake your whole bag will be worthless, this is the only bad side of staking alts.

[rodskee]

Fairlay.
They allow you to register with an "instant link", no email, no name, no phone, not even a password required.

Their limits are high.
And they are just 1 example.

There are many more, unfortunately.

really ? Fairlay allows everything you mentioned? but asking nothing for the player will
serve really fair? is there no accusation  in regards to blocking account or banning?because this is mostly
what happened when the casino is complete private .

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Going back to the topic why instead of self inclusion is Block that site so you will never
gonna play again? because self inclusions only makes you stay out for a while then may consider coming
back again in the future.

[dimonstration]

By the way, let me ask you, have you seen a casino that is not no-KYC and is fully registered and regulated that will let you continue to play forever without KYC? If you answer this with proof, maybe we can step our discussion further.

Fairlay.
They allow you to register with an "instant link", no email, no name, no phone, not even a password required.

Their limits are high.
And they are just 1 example.

There are many more, unfortunately.

Fairlay registration function is close for a long time unless they open it recently or provide other way to access their site just like what you said. Can you provide where can I access that instant link feature?

I try to click one of their bets offered and it still needs to still create an account which is non functional now. Besides, There’s a terms on this casino stated “When registering, you’ll may have to provide certain identifying information”.

I’m pertaining to fairlay.com

[abel1337]

You can watch this video from 07:20 if you want to skip on the other parts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxty2XhTwVI

Basically it's very simple.

You take a currency that requires 21 days for staking/unstaking, then you deposit this amount in Atomic Wallet, stake it and then you can't gamble with the crypto you're holding.

The locking (staking) is done with one single click of a button, and it's practically speaking, equivalent to activation of self-exclusion on an online gambling site with a click of a button (and yet not all sites offer it unfortunately).

For example, you stake (lock) $200 of your crypto, and that's all crypto available for you - then you can't play/gamble/risk it for at least 21 days ... do it 15 times a year time after time, and you would be excluded for a long time.

The only drawback with this method is Atomic doesn't offer this on USDT so some "gamblers" might not like this idea because they trust stablecoins more than other crypto coins, but this is FYI.

Pushing the button to start the staking is where the problem is at, remember that a heart that's filled with the excitement of gambling is already craving to gamble again, it would be different someone else is going to keep pushing that button, but the gambler will still have to make the decision.

I personally do not buy this idea because it depends on the gambler's mind, if he is serious on quitting gambling he or she will do this easily, but if he is the type that has weak mind he won't be able to lock away his money for long, even if he did it once, after the staking period is over he will surely use the fund to gamble.

Like you said, staking is a big problem if you are not using stable coin, because alternative coins are highly volatile, they can lose value so much that when you unstake your whole bag will be worthless, this is the only bad side of staking alts.

There are gamblers who just thinks that they can commit into stop doing gambling but the next day, they will play again as they can't control themselves. There are days that gamblers are sure that they will stop doing gambling to the point that they withdraw their money from the casino. With this, gamblers can stake their money with no choice but to wait for their money even if they change their mind into playing again. The gamblers will have time to reflect if they are ready to commit into quitting gambling with this way.

Though there are downsides to this, if a gambler is desperate to gamble again, I'm sure that he will deposit with another money just to gamble again. Though I believe that this staking method is a good option that gambler that want to quit.

[Quidat]

It is possible to exclude yourself in the way OP said, but unfortunately, as OP said, you cannot use stable coins to distance yourself from the risk of fluctuating crypto prices.
In my opinion, whatever method a person uses to exclude themselves is very good, but it all comes back to the desire and commitment of each gambler because it would be in vain if a gambler staked the budget he has because if his mind still has the desire to gamble, of course he has other methods such as tried to gamble, borrowed a little money from a friend and gambled secretly.
A strong desire is an important role for gamblers who want to reduce their gambling activities so that in any way gamblers can very easily limit themselves so that they get into the habit of not gambling too often.

If you do try to understand the sentence about in between stable coins and other crypto then it wouldnt matter on which as long whats available then you would really be simply stake those amounts.
If you do see that stablecoins are the only available on which you can stake then you could really make out those conversions if you are really that serious on staking those funds just for the sake
on avoiding for you to play with gambling but if not then you wouldnt care as you could really be able to play again on the money that you do have. Some sites do offer exclusions on which there would neither be a duration or would be completely deleted or prohibiting you on playing but since creating new account would be so damn easy then this is why i can say that
self exclusions are really that useless or not really that effective at all.

[Get-Paid.com]

really ? Fairlay allows everything you mentioned? but asking nothing for the player will
serve really fair? is there no accusation  in regards to blocking account or banning?because this is mostly
what happened when the casino is complete private .

Yes, that's exactly what it is, there won't be any accusations because they are Pinnacle clones, Pinnacle supposedly doesn't limit winners but use "sharp bettors" to adjust lines and more (adjusting means instead of paying 1.95 they can pay 1.90 and still get the same action but save themselves 5%).

It shouldn't come to you as a surprise that sportsbooks or gambling sites play it dirty, look at what Drama Alert shared yesterday, it has gotten over 4 million views and it's only increasing... just a few hours ago it was 2 million views:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5480777.0

You can't trust these establishments, this is why you need to have the control within you from your end, and don't rely on others! That's the purpose of this thread.

[Dunamisx]

Gamblers that are having those problems need to do some serious soul searching and answer a simple question, can they really control their gambling and they have been lax on that control or they do have a problem and they cannot really control themselves anymore? If it is the former then they really need to step up their game and control themselves by any means possible, and if it is the latter then they need to recognize that even if gambling is something they enjoy greatly, the time has come to leave it behind for good.

Most gamblers who have gambled too often have probably experienced a loss of self-control in gambling, so they only increase their problems even more. If they don't immediately solve their problems one by one, they will only get deeper into gambling without being able to get out of gambling. If they really want to exclude themselves from gambling, they must really be able to control themselves well and be able to get rid of the desire to gamble. If they can do that, they can use the self-exclusion feature well and they won't even use that feature but control themselves. That will help him reduce his desire to gamble.

If you're a gambler, then control and manage how you're gambling before it get worse to the extreme stage, also, if you're privileged to see someone gambling in the wrong direction, take it a responsibility to call them into order, some things were better done or dealt with in the early stage before they got worsened, having desires for gambling is not getting yourself harmed by gambling because if ignorance or lack of self control while gambling, the gambling platforms will not control you, it's your own responsibility to do so for yourself.

[Get-Paid.com]

self exclusions are really that useless or not really that effective at all.

Many people would disagree with that, this is simply not true.

Fairlay registration function is close for a long time unless they open it recently or provide other way to access their site just like what you said. Can you provide where can I access that instant link feature?

You're right, might be a good thing they've changed it but until recently they've literally done as described here, allowing anyone to register with an instant link, 0 details to be provided, could easily gamble 5 digits with no questions asked. Let's see how the new site would operate. Hopefully it would be more "responsible" than what it is but no one knows yet.

[South Park]

If you're a gambler, then control and manage how you're gambling before it get worse to the extreme stage, also, if you're privileged to see someone gambling in the wrong direction, take it a responsibility to call them into order, some things were better done or dealt with in the early stage before they got worsened, having desires for gambling is not getting yourself harmed by gambling because if ignorance or lack of self control while gambling, the gambling platforms will not control you, it's your own responsibility to do so for yourself.

It is very rare that people listen to others when it comes to this as they will feel judged, and they will think that you are overstepping their boundaries by doing something like this, so even if you were correct on your observations about their gambling habits, you can bet they will continue to gamble as usual, and even if at some point they realize they had a problem you can be sure they will not remember that you tried to help them before things got out of control.